Re: Totally Confused...
By: Martin Kazmaier to Digital Man on Fri Dec 19 2025 09:13 pm

I added that and it still does the same thing. I gave up and am using an external server. This was quite unpleasant. I followed the instructions
to the letter and it didn't work as stated.

The rlogin_xtrn_logon = false support was added 8 months ago: https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/3cd0394caaee67343bd1a58091b0df19

Your version of Synchronet (and specifically, your exec/logon.js file) is older than that.

I agree: you've been quite unpleasant to deal with. Good riddance.
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Re: Totally Confused...
By: Martin Kazmaier to Digital Man on Fri Dec 19 2025 09:13 pm

I added that and it still does the same thing. I gave up and am using
an external server. This was quite unpleasant. I followed the
instructions to the letter and it didn't work as stated.

what instructions?
on the wiki.

let everyone know so it can be corrected.
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* In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Digital Man said:

Re: Totally Confused... By: Martin Kazmaier to Digital Man on Fri Dec
19 2025 09:13 pm

I added that and it still does the same thing. I gave up and am using

an

external server. This was quite unpleasant. I followed the

instructions

to the letter and it didn't work as stated.

The rlogin_xtrn_logon = false support was added 8 months ago: https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/3cd0394caaee67343bd1a58091b0d f19

Your version of Synchronet (and specifically, your exec/logon.js file) is older than that.

I agree: you've been quite unpleasant to deal with. Good riddance. -- digital man (rob)

Sorry, I expect things to work as documented and to be accessible to those
with mental/emotional disabilities.

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Re: Totally Confused...
By: Martin Kazmaier to Digital Man on Sat Dec 20 2025 03:16 pm

Sorry, I expect things to work as documented and to be accessible
to those with mental/emotional disabilities.

if you had to deal with yourself, would you be happy with your error
reporting ablilities?

what you should do when having an issue is report what os you are running, what version of the software you are running, and provide screen captures
of your configuration.

your problems weren't really that bad. if you would have ran the latest version of synchronet and toggled off what you didn't want to see, it would have worked.

you dont want to get it working.
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Re: Totally Confused...
By: Martin Kazmaier to Digital Man on Fri Dec 19 2025 09:13 pm

I added that and it still does the same thing. I gave up and am using

an

external server. This was quite unpleasant. I followed the

instructions

to the letter and it didn't work as stated.

The rlogin_xtrn_logon = false support was added 8 months ago: https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/3cd0394caaee67343bd1a58091b0 f19

Your version of Synchronet (and specifically, your exec/logon.js file) is older than that.

I agree: you've been quite unpleasant to deal with. Good riddance. -- digital man (rob)

Have you never dealt with a neuro-divergent individual? We can be difficult, but we totally mean well. Our brains don't work like normal people's, we
don't think coherently or cohesively, but we can be highly intelligent.
That's the only way we remain semi-lucid. I didn't mean to cause you difficulty, I just don't deal well when things don't work the way they are supposed to. In my case, it's the new user procedure that needs to be disabled. Every time I connect, it's as a new user and the real name isn't accepted as the same as the handle (sbbs simply reports that it's either a
dupe or invalid) as I think it's only 1 word. I'd love to be able to get
this to work, but until then I'll be semi-satisfied with using the anet
online game server for individual games.

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Martin Kazmaier wrote to Digital Man <=-

* In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Digital Man said:

Re: Totally Confused... By: Martin Kazmaier to Digital Man on Fri Dec
19 2025 09:13 pm

I added that and it still does the same thing. I gave up and am using

an

external server. This was quite unpleasant. I followed the

instructions

to the letter and it didn't work as stated.

The rlogin_xtrn_logon = false support was added 8 months ago: https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/3cd0394caaee67343bd1a58091b0d f19

Your version of Synchronet (and specifically, your exec/logon.js file) is older than that.

I agree: you've been quite unpleasant to deal with. Good riddance. -- digital man (rob)

Sorry, I expect things to work as documented

They do, when configured correctly.

and to be accessible to
those with mental/emotional disabilities.

The ADA doesn't apply to BBS software. <SHRUG>




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Re: Totally Confused...
By: Martin Kazmaier to Digital Man on Sat Dec 20 2025 05:53 pm

Have you never dealt with a neuro-divergent individual? We can be difficult, but we totally mean well. Our brains don't work like
normal people's, we don't think coherently or cohesively, but we can

quit being a faggot. get over your own bullshit and learn new things.
you did it before and you can do it again. it's not a dick, don't take it
so hard. you did a lot with your own bbs so quit being lazy and learn again.

god damn.

quit making excuses.
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Re: Totally Confused...
By: Martin Kazmaier to Digital Man on Sat Dec 20 2025 05:53 pm

I added that and it still does the same thing. I gave up and am using

an

external server. This was quite unpleasant. I followed the

instructions

to the letter and it didn't work as stated.

I agree: you've been quite unpleasant to deal with. Good riddance. -- digital man (rob)

Have you never dealt with a neuro-divergent individual?

Of course I have.

We can be
difficult, but we totally mean well. Our brains don't work like normal people's, we
don't think coherently or cohesively, but we can be highly intelligent. That's the only way we remain semi-lucid. I didn't mean to cause you difficulty, I just don't deal well when things don't work the way they are supposed to. In my case, it's the new user procedure that needs to be disabled. Every time I connect, it's as a new user and the real name isn't accepted as the same as the handle (sbbs simply reports that it's either a dupe or invalid) as I think it's only 1 word.

And I told you how to disable that real name prompt.

If you connect a second time with the same name, that wouldn't be another new user either, so "every time" sounds incorrect as well.

I'd love to be able to get
this to work, but until then I'll be semi-satisfied with using the anet online game server for individual games.

Cool. I've never heard of it. Looks like it's running Synchronet: a-net-online.lol
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* In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, MRO said:

Re: Totally Confused... By: Martin Kazmaier to Digital Man on Sat Dec
20 2025 03:16 pm

Sorry, I expect things to work as documented and to be accessible to those with mental/emotional disabilities.

if you had to deal with yourself, would you be happy with your error reporting ablilities?

what you should do when having an issue is report what os you are running,

what version of the software you are running, and provide screen captures
of your configuration.

your problems weren't really that bad. if you would have ran the latest version of synchronet and toggled off what you didn't want to see, it
would have worked.

Thank you MRO, you were uncharacteristically understanding... As far as I knew,I was running the latest version. I got it from the official website. Perhaps I'll try again.

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Re: Totally Confused...
By: Martin Kazmaier to Digital Man on Sat Dec 20 2025 05:53 pm

I added that and it still does the same thing. I gave up and am

using

an

external server. This was quite unpleasant. I followed the

instructions

to the letter and it didn't work as stated.

I agree: you've been quite unpleasant to deal with. Good riddance.

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digital man (rob)

Have you never dealt with a neuro-divergent individual?

Of course I have.

We can be difficult, but we totally mean well. Our brains don't work like normal people's, we don't think coherently or cohesively,
but we can be highly intelligent. That's the only way we remain semi-lucid. I didn't mean to cause you difficulty, I just don't
deal well when things don't work the way they

are

supposed to. In my case, it's the new user procedure that needs to be disabled. Every time I connect, it's as a new user and the real name

isn't

accepted as the same as the handle (sbbs simply reports that it's

either a

dupe or invalid) as I think it's only 1 word.

And I told you how to disable that real name prompt.

Ok, I just went through every message from you to me and didn't see that.
Could you please tell me again?

If you connect a second time with the same name, that wouldn't be another new user either, so "every time" sounds incorrect as well.

It is forcing me to create a new user each time I connect because the real
name is invalid or duplicate. It doesn't say which. I have multiple users with the same handle and different real names... That on it's own is confusing.

I'd love to be able to get this to work, but until then I'll be semi-satisfied with using the anet online game server for individual games.

Cool. I've never heard of it. Looks like it's running Synchronet: a-net-online.lol -- digital man (rob)

Yep, he's got it working so I can use that until I can manage this. I would love to work with you on this and will try to calm down my idiosynchracies (sorry I couldn't remember how to spell that) so that I'm easier to deal
with. He spent about 2 years to get his to the state that it's at. Rob
McGee (x-bit) also has a game server. His just asks for username and
location as well as mouse reporting and ansi on new user connection. I was hoping to get to that state. Exodus also has one set up so that people can access sbbs games from his Renegade. If that many people can use it, it shouldn't be as difficult as I've experienced. Perhaps they all used a newer version. I just went to the synchronet website, which seemed the logical
place to get the latest version. I did read the game server wiki (thanks to Stringray for pointing me to that) and follow it's instructions before I had
my melt-down.

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Re: Totally Confused...
By: Martin Kazmaier to Digital Man on Sun Dec 21 2025 12:45 am

supposed to. In my case, it's the new user procedure that needs to be disabled. Every time I connect, it's as a new user and the real name

isn't

accepted as the same as the handle (sbbs simply reports that it's

either a

dupe or invalid) as I think it's only 1 word.

And I told you how to disable that real name prompt.

Ok, I just went through every message from you to me and didn't see that. Could you please tell me again?

Here are those instructions again, verbatim:

You can eliminate that prompt entirely by creating the file ctrl/text.ini and adding the following line:
EnterYourRealName = ""

If you connect a second time with the same name, that wouldn't be another new user either, so "every time" sounds incorrect as well.

It is forcing me to create a new user each time I connect because the real name is invalid or duplicate. It doesn't say which. I have multiple users with the same handle and different real names... That on it's own is confusing.

That doesn't make sense - if the rlogin-supplied user name already exists in your BBS's userbase, the user will not go through another new user registration again. It sounds like you're specifying a different username for each new rlogin connection. Your BBS's terminal server log output would clarify what's happening. i.e. compare the server log output between 2 successive connections. If the first connection completes the new user registration process, then a second connection (with the same username) should not start a new user registration again.

Cool. I've never heard of it. Looks like it's running Synchronet: a-net-online.lol -- digital man (rob)

Yep, he's got it working so I can use that until I can manage this. I would love to work with you on this and will try to calm down my idiosynchracies (sorry I couldn't remember how to spell that) so that I'm easier to deal with. He spent about 2 years to get his to the state that it's at. Rob McGee (x-bit) also has a game server. His just asks for username and location as well as mouse reporting and ansi on new user connection. I was hoping to get to that state. Exodus also has one set up so that people can access sbbs games from his Renegade. If that many people can use it, it shouldn't be as difficult as I've experienced. Perhaps they all used a newer version.

The "newer version" (actually *versions*) of logon.js just add some more options that some sysops requested and can enable, as documented, but aren't required for baisc game server functionality. The basic rlogin-game-server functionality has been in Synchronet's logon.js for a long time now and isn't that complex to setup.

I just went to the synchronet website, which seemed the logical
place to get the latest version. I did read the game server wiki (thanks to Stringray for pointing me to that) and follow it's instructions before I had my melt-down.

The rlogin/game-server support in Synchronet is controlled via the exec/logon.js script. You can see the edit history of this script (and download the latest version of it) here:
https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commits/master/exec/logon.js

Or... you could upgrade to the latest development build of Synchronet (which includes an updated logon.js) by following the instructions here:
https://wiki.synchro.net/install:dev
That's also the *second* link on the "download" "Synchronet for Windows" option at "the synchronet website" (www.synchro.net).
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Hey Martin!

On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 17:53:00 +0000, you wrote:

I just don't deal well when things don't work the way they are
supposed to. In my case, it's the new user procedure that needs to
be disabled.

It works just fine if you had a version of Synchronet installed that supported what you're trying to do!

Every time I connect, it's as a new user and the real name isn't
accepted as the same as the handle (sbbs simply reports that it's
either a dupe or invalid) as I think it's only 1 word. I'd love to
be able to get this to work, but until then I'll be semi-satisfied
with using the anet online game server for individual games.

This might have been addressed recently, if I remember right. But your Synchronet install would need to be updated to the latest. The instructions to do this are also on the wiki.

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Digital!

On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 19:12:46 -0800, you wrote:

Cool. I've never heard of it. Looks like it's running Synchronet: a-net-online.lol

Aw jeez. *facepalm*

Looks like the wiki worked for that sysop! :D

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Martin!

On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 19:19:00 +0000, you wrote:

Thank you MRO, you were uncharacteristically understanding... As far as
I knew,I was running the latest version. I got it from the official website. Perhaps I'll try again.

You are running the latest full package installer (which is not updated daily). Right above that on the same page as the link for that installer, is "Development Update Instructions":

https://wiki.synchro.net/install:dev

Get the latest binaries in the "Pre-built Executables" section and follow those instructions. Don't forget to run "jsexec update". Don't do /anything/ else until you are fully updated to the latest version. Then, and only then.. go back and do what DM originally told you do in regards to your RLogin server thing.

If after that you still have issues, bring them here and ask your questions a bit more respectfully, if that's possible.

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Totally Confused...
By: Digital Man to Martin Kazmaier on Sat Dec 20 2025 07:12 pm

games.

Cool. I've never heard of it. Looks like it's running Synchronet: a-net-online.lol

oh that's where he got 'stingray' from. that's the sysop.
i asked what he meant when saying stingray and he didnt answer me.
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Re: Totally Confused...
By: Martin Kazmaier to MRO on Sat Dec 20 2025 07:19 pm

Thank you MRO, you were uncharacteristically understanding...

oh fuck off asshole. i've helped you several times over the years.
MANY YEARS.

go put on your helmet and eat your own shit.
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Re: Totally Confused...
By: Martin Kazmaier to Digital Man on Sun Dec 21 2025 12:45 am

Exodus also has one set up so that people can access sbbs games
from his Renegade. If that many people can use it, it shouldn't

OH, you mean exodus, that guy who claims to be the renegade developer?
and has talked shit about synchronet for decades?
he has a game server for synchronet, huh?
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* In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, MRO said:

Re: Totally Confused... By: Martin Kazmaier to MRO on Sat Dec 20 2025
07:19 pm

Thank you MRO, you were uncharacteristically understanding...

oh fuck off asshole. i've helped you several times over the years.
MANY YEARS.

go put on your helmet and eat your own shit.

Yes you have, but you're also known for being particularly crass. I was
trying to be nice, not sarcastic. That was an honest thank you.

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Re: Totally Confused...
By: Martin Kazmaier to MRO on Sun Dec 21 2025 05:34 pm

Thank you MRO, you were uncharacteristically understanding...

oh fuck off asshole. i've helped you several times over the years.
MANY YEARS.

go put on your helmet and eat your own shit.

Yes you have, but you're also known for being particularly crass. I was trying to be nice, not sarcastic. That was an honest thank you.

MRO? crass? nawww

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