• NNTP(S) via Thunderbird

    From Deuce@1:103/705 to Accession on Wed Nov 5 15:46:11 2025
    Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbird
    By: Accession to Mindsurfer on Tue Nov 04 2025 04:38 pm

    It takes a little bit of messing about, but not too much. However, while I tested Golded with Synchronet quite a bit, that's not how I use it normally. There's too many quirks that I don't like, and it doesn't look like Golded will be updated to work better with Synchronet any time soon.

    1) Netmail doesn't work. You can read the mail base, but you'll break stuff if you try to write to it.

    2) You have to completely disable Synchronet's "voting" feature, and completely clear your message bases of any "voting" messages. Golded doesn't understand it, and will display blank messages and then jump back to the first message in the area - completely ruining any chance of reading messages in order, or keeping last read pointers in tact.

    If you don't mind any of that, then it works great afterwards. It was definitely enough for me to move on to other options. ;)

    Those both sound pretty fixable... maybe I'll take a look this weekend.
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  • From Accession@1:103/705 to Deuce on Wed Nov 5 16:49:54 2025
    Hey Deuce!

    On Wed, 05 Nov 2025 15:46:10 +0000, you wrote:

    Those both sound pretty fixable... maybe I'll take a look this weekend.

    Wow, I'm surprised to see you here. :)

    If you do anything with this, let me know and I'll gladly help test it out!

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Deuce@1:103/705 to Accession on Sat Nov 8 04:23:41 2025
    Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbird
    By: Accession to Deuce on Wed Nov 05 2025 04:49 pm

    Those both sound pretty fixable... maybe I'll take a look this weekend.

    Wow, I'm surprised to see you here. :)

    If you do anything with this, let me know and I'll gladly help test it out!

    Heh, with the work on The Clans, I'm actually putting a non-zero amount of time into making at least one of my boards not suck... even set up a FTN message network.

    https://bbsdev.net/BBSDev/

    It sucks and has nothing to recommend it.
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  • From Accession@1:103/705 to Deuce on Sat Nov 8 07:23:18 2025
    Hey Deuce!

    On Sat, 08 Nov 2025 04:23:40 +0000, you wrote:

    Heh, with the work on The Clans, I'm actually putting a non-zero amount
    of time into making at least one of my boards not suck... even set up a
    FTN message network.

    https://bbsdev.net/BBSDev/

    It sucks and has nothing to recommend it.

    Erm, has the original Deuce been kidnapped? What did you do with him!?

    The Deuce I know doesn't like people. Now you're setting up a message network... for... communication with people!? :D

    I'll hop on IRC soon to set this all up.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Deuce on Sat Nov 8 14:51:11 2025
    Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbird
    By: Deuce to Accession on Sat Nov 08 2025 04:23 am

    Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbird
    By: Accession to Deuce on Wed Nov 05 2025 04:49 pm

    Those both sound pretty fixable... maybe I'll take a look this weekend.

    Wow, I'm surprised to see you here. :)

    If you do anything with this, let me know and I'll gladly help test it out!

    Heh, with the work on The Clans, I'm actually putting a non-zero amount of time into making at least one of my boards not suck... even set up a FTN message network.

    https://bbsdev.net/BBSDev/

    It sucks and has nothing to recommend it.

    Many of those setup steps can be automated by adding your network to the exec/init-fidonet.ini and then the steps at https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:fidonet can be followed to add your network, eliminating a lot of manual configuration.
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  • From Mindsurfer@1:103/705 to All on Sun Nov 2 18:50:00 2025
    Hey,

    i am just trying to use NNTP(S) to read/write from/to FTN Messageboards.
    Do you have experience with it already and can share something about it?
    I currently try it with Thunderbird (linux).

    sbbs/ctrl/services.ini looks like that for NNTP(S) now

    ; Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP)
    [NNTP]
    Port=119
    Command=nntpservice.js -f -na

    [NNTPS]
    Enabled=true
    Port=563
    Options=TLS
    Command=nntpservice.js -f -na

    so i have added -na to allow users who authenticate with an BBS account only.

    anything else? Who uses NNTPS regularly to read and post?
    Or is that just something you should not use or offer as a feature to users?

    Mindsurfer

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  • From Accession@1:103/705 to Mindsurfer on Sun Nov 2 13:20:24 2025
    On 11-02-25 18:50, Mindsurfer wrote:

    sbbs/ctrl/services.ini looks like that for NNTP(S) now

    ; Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP)
    [NNTP]
    Port=119
    Command=nntpservice.js -f -na

    [NNTPS]
    Enabled=true
    Port=563
    Options=TLS
    Command=nntpservice.js -f -na

    so i have added -na to allow users who authenticate with an BBS account only.

    anything else? Who uses NNTPS regularly to read and post?
    Or is that just something you should not use or offer as a feature to users?

    The above looks correct to me, and you can definitely offer it as a feature to your users (with authentication, like you did, of course). That's what it's there for!

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Mindsurfer@1:103/705 to Accession on Sun Nov 2 21:56:00 2025
    Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbird
    By: Accession to Mindsurfer on Sun Nov 02 2025 13:20:24

    sbbs/ctrl/services.ini looks like that for NNTP(S) now
    ; Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) [NNTP]
    Port=119
    Command=nntpservice.js -f -na
    [NNTPS]
    Enabled=true
    Port=563
    Options=TLS
    Command=nntpservice.js -f -na

    so i have added -na to allow users who authenticate with an BBS account
    only.
    anything else? Who uses NNTPS regularly to read and post? Or is that just
    something you should not use or offer as a feature to users?

    The above looks correct to me, and you can definitely offer it as a feature to your users (with authentication, like you did, of course). That's what it's there for!

    Well it works, but i think it is prone to making errors/problems. At least in comparison to posting from the BBS, don't you think?

    I keep it there for now, but i have removed port 119 from portforwarding into my lan, as i want to offer the NNTPS port only. I don't see a problem in offering the enrypted transport only.

    Any other Newsgroup Reader out there beside Thunderbird?

    Mindsurfer

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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to Mindsurfer on Sun Nov 2 16:06:36 2025
    Mindsurfer wrote to Accession <=-

    Any other Newsgroup Reader out there beside Thunderbird?

    I have always preferred 'Pan'.



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  • From Deuce@1:103/705 to Accession on Sun Nov 9 00:54:07 2025
    Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbird
    By: Accession to Deuce on Sat Nov 08 2025 07:23 am

    The Deuce I know doesn't like people. Now you're setting up a message network... for... communication with people!? :D

    It's only some people I don't like.

    I'll hop on IRC soon to set this all up.

    Cool, and the network is mostly for testing The Clans.
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Accession on Sat Nov 8 19:19:23 2025
    Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbird
    By: Accession to Deuce on Sat Nov 08 2025 07:23 am

    The Deuce I know doesn't like people. Now you're setting up a message network... for... communication with people!? :D

    he must have had some good whiskey that night.
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  • From Accession@1:103/705 to Deuce on Sun Nov 9 06:27:42 2025
    Hey Deuce!

    On Sun, 09 Nov 2025 00:54:06 +0000, you wrote:

    It's only some people I don't like.

    I'll hop on IRC soon to set this all up.

    Cool, and the network is mostly for testing The Clans.

    That's what I figured. Once The Clans is done, do you plan on possibly doing any others?

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Deuce@1:103/705 to Accession on Sun Nov 9 16:35:33 2025
    Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbird
    By: Accession to Deuce on Sun Nov 09 2025 06:27 am

    That's what I figured. Once The Clans is done, do you plan on possibly doing any others?

    Absolutely, I plan to go through all the BBS doors in git to start with... the GAC games are the ones I plan to look at next since they share a lot of code between the three.
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