Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

They work based on what they're trained on, but they also know how to
be creative,

That is a myth. What's really happening is that they are reasoning differently because they are unencumbered by human biases.

Everyone has is biased. But most of us are unaware of it because the bias was "programmed" in by our parents and relatives and they all have the same biases.
So it's "normal" for us.

A while back, someone built an expert system (pre-LLM AI) for flavor pairings. All it was programmed with was "X tastes good with Y" type of information. But there were no "pickles taste funny" type of biases. It came up with flavor combinations that seemed strange to humans, but they were tried and they turned out very tasty.

That wasn't creativity. That was clear reasoning without our biases.

and they can figure things out faster than humans.

Well, ya. Just like calculators can math far faster than humans.

You're
right that a commercial system shouldn't be used for defense. We need a truly MAGA AI model that will spit it out when we ask it how to defend ourselves in certain scenarios. Not have it say "The question you asked violates our community standards."

I think that, right now, a truely generic AI is not reachable. AIs for specific tasks (i.e. programming) are certainly doable. But a generic AI will have to be free from biases and I don't see how that can be accomplished.


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A while back, someone built an expert system (pre-LLM AI) for flavor pairings. All it was programmed with was "X tastes good with Y" type of information. But there were no "pickles taste funny" type of biases. It came up with flavor combinations that seemed strange to humans, but they were tried and they turned out very tasty.

That wasn't creativity. That was clear reasoning without our biases.

I get it; it's exploring options without bias, and it results in cool stuff that humans would unlikely ever think of (at least not quickly.)

I think that, right now, a truely generic AI is not reachable. AIs for specific tasks (i.e. programming) are certainly doable. But a generic
AI will have to be free from biases and I don't see how that can be accomplished.

I'd like to give AI programming a try some day. There are frameworks that I can play around with. Google has one that's open source (TensorFlowPyTorch) but of course I'll look for alternatives to the root of all evil.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

I get it; it's exploring options without bias, and it results in cool stuff that humans would unlikely ever think of (at least not quickly.)

Yes. As a software developer, I have to constantly check my biases when it comes to programming because sometimes I have a belief stuck in my head that steers me away from a good solution.

I'd like to give AI programming a try some day. There are frameworks
that I can play around with. Google has one that's open source (TensorFlowPyTorch) but of course I'll look for alternatives to the
root of all evil.

The concepts are easy. But it costs a lot in storage and CPU to make one that's fairly generic.


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I'd like to give AI programming a try some day. There are frameworks that I can play around with. Google has one that's open source (TensorFlowPyTorch) but of course I'll look for alternatives to the root of all evil.

The concepts are easy. But it costs a lot in storage and CPU to make one that's fairly generic.

For my current projects (Node-JS non-AI stuff) I'm using a VPS with 16 cores and 16 GB RAM. Maybe if I migrate to something with twice the specs I could do it all on the same server.

I'm always like 10+ years behind other developers, and this is no exception, but I really am excited to eventually jump into it.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

I'm always like 10+ years behind other developers, and this is no exception, but I really am excited to eventually jump into it.

It's not called the "bleeding edge" for nothing.

I'm usually "behind" too, but over 40 years, I've developed a good sense for what's going to stay and what's a fad.


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