• Re: Palantir to receive u

    From Rob Mccart@1:2320/107 to RUG RAT on Tue May 26 09:07:51 2026
    Here I was about to concede that Universal Health Care might actually be a go
    >thing for the US........

    With how well the government has shown that it can protect its other large da
    >ses against unauthorized access, and data harvesting. Having a single cleari
    >house for electronic health records would not be a good thing!

    The health records are only legally available to helthcare providers.

    The small amount of mostly useless data attached to health records
    that could be hacked and accessed should be weighed against all the
    deaths from poor healthcare without having coverage.

    It costs us in taxes and it's not perfect at what we are willing
    to pay in taxes to suppport it but the thought of walking into
    a doctor's office and being told a procedure is going to bankrupt
    me scares me more.. I have 71 years of living with this in Canada
    and it's never done me any harm and no one I know has ever wanted
    to get rid of the coverage.

    Only the super rich think that's a good idea..

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/107 to RUG RAT on Tue May 26 11:05:32 2026
    Here I was about to concede that Universal Health Care might actually be a goo
    thing for the US........

    With how well the government has shown that it can protect its other large databses against unauthorized access, and data harvesting. Having a single clearing house for electronic health records would not be a good thing!

    That is one of my two concerns. The other would be that if we let them run health care, then certain things... think women's reproductive health...
    would probably be covered based on the whims of whoever is in charge at
    that particular time.

    For instance, right now I am guessing that it would not be covered at all,
    even in states where it is legal. Either that, or it would be used to
    track who is going to states that allow it in order to receive care.

    I know other governments in other countries do it apparently without those issues, but I question how that would work here.


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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/107 to MIKE POWELL on Thu May 28 08:08:55 2026
    With how well the government has shown that it can protect its other large
    >> databses against unauthorized access, and data harvesting. Having a single
    >> clearing house for electronic health records would not be a good thing!

    That is one of my two concerns. The other would be that if we let them run
    >health care, then certain things... think women's reproductive health...
    >would probably be covered based on the whims of whoever is in charge at
    >that particular time.

    For instance, right now I am guessing that it would not be covered at all,
    >even in states where it is legal. Either that, or it would be used to
    >track who is going to states that allow it in order to receive care.

    I know other governments in other countries do it apparently without those
    >issues, but I question how that would work here.

    Not all things are covered by our Health Care in Canada but all that
    means is if something is not covered, you pay for it yourself.
    Without our Universal Healhcare you would pay for Everything by yourelf
    costing a lot more.

    i.e.. A family member had a very premature baby, 28 or 29 weeks.
    The child was in hospital for several months and the mother stayed
    in a place where relatives of people in hospital can stay cheaply.

    There were multiple expenses not fully covered but, in the end,
    the family forked out about $35,000 and our Healthcare payed out
    over $250,000. How many people could afford that?

    (BTW.. That baby is now 9 years old, happy and healthy and
    probably smarter than her 11 year old brother, and possibly
    her parents..) B)

    I understand that in the USA those who can afford it will get
    good insurance (at a fairly high cost) that covers most things
    but many people can't afford the better insurance coverage.

    So, like a lot of things there, the USA is a great country if
    you are pretty well off but it's not the best place to be poor.

    Low income people and seniors pay nothing for healthcare here
    and working people have payrole deductions from Zero dollars
    at $20,000 a year to a maximum of about $75 a month for those
    whos income gets up to over $200,000 a year here (in Ontario).

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/107 to ROB MCCART on Thu May 28 09:12:23 2026
    That is one of my two concerns. The other would be that if we let them run
    >health care, then certain things... think women's reproductive health...
    >would probably be covered based on the whims of whoever is in charge at
    >that particular time.

    For instance, right now I am guessing that it would not be covered at all,
    >even in states where it is legal. Either that, or it would be used to
    >track who is going to states that allow it in order to receive care.

    I know other governments in other countries do it apparently without those
    >issues, but I question how that would work here.

    Not all things are covered by our Health Care in Canada but all that
    means is if something is not covered, you pay for it yourself.
    Without our Universal Healhcare you would pay for Everything by yourelf costing a lot more.

    I am aware of this. I also suspect (?) that what is covered and what is
    not doesn't change every two-to-four years based on the whims of whoever is
    in charge. I strong suspect that would happen in the USA, which is the part I would be concerned about.

    I am not saying that 100% makes it a bad idea, but I do believe those
    who are advocating it in the US don't realize that this would likely happen.


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