• Capacitors in older machines

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/107 to All on Thu Sep 24 14:10:00 2026

    But my particular GX620 was a very good computer and I got
    my $10 out of i many times over. Its power supply was
    rather iffy but again, Dell's proprietary power supplies of
    that era tended to have the bleeding caps issues also.

    Well, by then computers were well into the "churn out crap"
    days for the masses :(

    Don't all capacitors eventually leak or pop, or do they actually make "higher quality" ones that don't?

    Mike

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  • From Tolik Vdovichev@2:385/180 to Mike Powell on Thu Sep 24 14:45:27 2026
    Hello Mike,


    But my particular GX620 was a very good computer and I got
    my $10 out of i many times over. Its power supply was
    rather iffy but again, Dell's proprietary power supplies of
    that era tended to have the bleeding caps issues also.

    Well, by then computers were well into the "churn out crap"
    days for the masses :(

    Don't all capacitors eventually leak or pop, or do they actually make "higher quality" ones that don't?
    Leaking is problem electrolytic capacitors.

    Popping is also problem of tantalum capacitors. It is better to replace them all during recapping. Their failure is usually a short circuit.

    Lifespan very depends on series, manufacturer, environment and circuit design.

    In ~2005-2015 decade there were experiments with materials and it was
    time of electrolytic capacitors plague even from well-known manufacturers.
    Much better nowadays.

    For prototyping I use probably short-living noname Chinese caps - it
    would be a bad idea to use them in production.

    In real life I see some electrolytic capacitors survived 30 years and
    still in good shape.

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  • From Bo Holt@1:129/305 to Mike Powell on Thu Sep 24 21:30:10 2026

    Don't all capacitors eventually leak or pop, or do they actually make "hig quality" ones that don't?

    I mean, there is the old "nothing lasts forever" (even cold November rain LOL), but there are lots of older equipment that still has very old caps that are in spec. Some eras of caps are worse than others.

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Mike Powell on Thu Sep 24 20:16:55 2026
    Mike Powell wrote to All <=-

    Don't all capacitors eventually leak or pop, or do they actually make "higher quality" ones that don't?

    If they are electrolytic capacitors, they run a risk, especially liquid aluminum electrolytiuc capacitors. Solid state capacitors, such as ceramic, film, and solid polymer capacitors, cannot leak or pop.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/107 to Sean Dennis on Sun Sep 27 14:51:50 2026
    Mike Powell wrote to All <=-

    Don't all capacitors eventually leak or pop, or do they
    actually make "higher quality" ones that don't?

    If they are electrolytic capacitors, they run a risk,
    especially liquid aluminum electrolytiuc capacitors. Solid
    state capacitors, such as ceramic, film, and solid polymer
    capacitors, cannot leak or pop.


    Good to know the difference. I was not aware there was one until reading the responses here.

    I actually learned something... on FIDO even! :D

    Mike

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  • From Bo Holt@1:129/305 to Mike Powell on Mon Sep 28 12:39:05 2026

    Good to know the difference. I was not aware there was one until reading responses here.

    I actually learned something... on FIDO even! :D

    Mike

    I have found that with the ubiquiti of bots and nonsense on Facebook groups, BBSing and FidoNet is the place to be (again) because there is somewhat of a barrier to entry. I hope it stays this way (a safe zone) for quite some time.
    Enough activitiy to keep interest and the network alive, but not an influx of all the masses lol

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/107 to Bo Holt on Mon Sep 28 18:27:24 2026
    Good to know the difference. I was not aware there was one
    until reading responses here.

    I actually learned something... on FIDO even! :D

    I have found that with the ubiquiti of bots and nonsense on
    Facebook groups, BBSing and FidoNet is the place to be (again)
    because there is somewhat of a barrier to entry. I hope it
    stays this way (a safe zone) for quite some time.
    Enough activitiy to keep interest and the network alive, but
    not an influx of all the masses lol

    Yeah, people like to rip on FIDO but I have found that there are some pretty knowledgeable people on the BBS networks, so long as what you are asking about isn't too obscure.

    Mike


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  • From Bo Holt@1:129/305 to Mike Powell on Tue Sep 29 21:39:58 2026
    Yeah, people like to rip on FIDO but I have found that there are some pret knowledgeable people on the BBS networks, so long as what you are asking a isn't too obscure.

    Mike

    I haven't heard anyone rip on Fido! I don't know what's to rip. I mean, I do 99% of my BBSing on vintage hardware, so I do sometimes miss being able to copy links directly to a browser and things like that, but I think using syncterm on a modern system would fix that.

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  • From Joe Stollings@1:275/103 to Bo Holt on Wed Sep 30 07:16:00 2026
    99% of my BBSing on vintage hardware, so I do sometimes miss being a
    copy links directly to a browser and things like that, but I think u syncterm on a modern system would fix that.

    Netrunner lets you copy and then paste wherever you want.

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  • From Bo Holt@1:129/305 to Joe Stollings on Wed Sep 30 20:09:43 2026
    99% of my BBSing on vintage hardware, so I do sometimes miss being a
    copy links directly to a browser and things like that, but I think u syncterm on a modern system would fix that.

    Netrunner lets you copy and then paste wherever you want.

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    Netrunner? I am unfamiliar with that one!

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  • From Bryn Hopkins@1:124/5016 to Mike Powell on Thu Oct 1 16:16:30 2026
    Re: Re: Capacitors in older machines
    By: Mike Powell to Sean Dennis on Sun Sep 27 2026 14:51:50

    Don't all capacitors eventually leak or pop, or do they
    actually make "higher quality" ones that don't?
    If they are electrolytic capacitors, they run a risk,
    especially liquid aluminum electrolytiuc capacitors. Solid
    state capacitors, such as ceramic, film, and solid polymer
    capacitors, cannot leak or pop.
    Good to know the difference. I was not aware there was one until reading the responses here.
    From experience -- larger electrolytics tend to fail when power is first applied to them after months of no use--cycling power on and off to them, especially those in a power supply, will tend to make them leak or pop when
    coming up for the first time. Extremely large electrolytics (not what you'd find in a vintage computer) are supposed to be "formed" first before use with a slow ramp up of voltage to the regular operating voltage after nonuse for months or their first usage for this reason.

    xo
    Bryn
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