• HVYRAIN: Excessive Rainfall Discussion

    From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Sep 14 16:01:13 2025
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    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1201 PM EDT Sun Sep 14 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Sep 14 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 15 2025


    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN THE CENTRAL=20
    DAKOTAS...

    16Z Update...

    Made only minor adjustments to the previous outlook areas. This
    included narrowing the footprint of the Slight Risk area over the
    Dakotas. The 12Z hi-res models are in generally good agreement,
    indicating a narrow stripe of heavy amounts extending north from
    south-central South Dakota to north-central North Dakota. The
    Slight Risk reflects the area where the 12Z HREF shows high=20
    neighborhood probabilities for amounts exceeding 3 inches and 5-10=20
    year ARIs.

    Pereira=20

    Previous Discussion...

    ...Northern Plains...

    Upper trough exiting the Rockies has split off its southern
    portion into an upper low that will move onto the High Plains later
    this morning. Southerly flow will continue across the Northern
    Plains along with ample moisture -- PW anomalies +2 to +3 sigma --
    as a surface low over SD moves northward later this afternoon.
    Convergent flow toward the nose of the sfc-based instability
    gradient just to the east is expected to promote some south-to-
    north convection that may overlap areas that saw a few inches of
    rain on Saturday. Maintained the Slight Risk outline here with a
    Marginal Risk buffer extending to the south to the edge of the Sand
    Hills.

    ...Central and Southern Plains...

    Split the longer Marginal Risk area from the previous forecast
    into its own entity and extended it even farther southward to the
    Mexican border to account for another tick up in expected
    convection from KS southward to TX. Storms should fire along and
    ahead of a low-level confluence axis and within a stripe of deeper
    moisture. Some of these areas in W TX saw a couple/few inches of
    rain on Saturday and FFG values are lower. Some models do indicate
    the potential for slow-moving or backbuilding cells, resulting in
    locally heavy amounts and perhaps isolated flash flooding concerns.

    Fracasso



    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 15 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025


    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Fracasso


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025


    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN SOUTHERN NEW
    MEXICO, THE CENTRAL PLAINS, AND COASTAL VIRGINIA...

    ...Southern New Mexico...

    Moisture will start to nudge upward over southern NM (though much
    more well west of there) with some afternoon instability and
    expected isolated convection, mainly over the mountains close to
    the Mexican border. Low-end Marginal Risk is outlined here though
    activity should be rather isolated.

    ...Central Plains...

    Positively-tilted trough over the Northern Rockies will move
    eastward to the High Plains Tuesday afternoon. Broad westerly mid-
    level flow amid increasing moisture will help fire off some storms
    over at least NE near the better forcing but also southward into
    KS. A Marginal Risk is outlined here for an isolated flash flood
    threat.

    ...Coastal Virginia...

    Over the past couple of days, the models have trended toward
    bringing in an area of low pressure near the Outer Banks Tuesday
    morning or so. Rain should spread inland on Monday with additional
    and perhaps heavier rain on Wednesday. This area has been rather
    dry recently and rain rates may not be all that high, but some convection-driven rain is possible depending on the flavor of this
    area of low pressure. A Marginal Risk is depicted for
    southeastern/coastal Virginia and far northeastern North Carolina
    but with a lot of uncertainty in the rainfall
    pattern/rates/duration.

    Fracasso


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!43gDcxjrzfQPFqwB3NPeqY5KIp9THWswbO63JA0Lj3i1= rv6W3y0mgcWCaCEyyESquMtYEtMbVdikTjZRQsiiHmAWB9U$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!43gDcxjrzfQPFqwB3NPeqY5KIp9THWswbO63JA0Lj3i1= rv6W3y0mgcWCaCEyyESquMtYEtMbVdikTjZRQsii2tATJVo$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!43gDcxjrzfQPFqwB3NPeqY5KIp9THWswbO63JA0Lj3i1= rv6W3y0mgcWCaCEyyESquMtYEtMbVdikTjZRQsiii0DDd74$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Sep 14 19:50:47 2025
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    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    350 PM EDT Sun Sep 14 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Sep 14 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 15 2025


    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN THE CENTRAL
    DAKOTAS...

    16Z Update...

    Made only minor adjustments to the previous outlook areas. This
    included narrowing the footprint of the Slight Risk area over the
    Dakotas. The 12Z hi-res models are in generally good agreement,
    indicating a narrow stripe of heavy amounts extending north from
    south-central South Dakota to north-central North Dakota. The
    Slight Risk reflects the area where the 12Z HREF shows high
    neighborhood probabilities for amounts exceeding 3 inches and 5-10
    year ARIs.

    Pereira

    Previous Discussion...

    ...Northern Plains...

    Upper trough exiting the Rockies has split off its southern
    portion into an upper low that will move onto the High Plains later
    this morning. Southerly flow will continue across the Northern
    Plains along with ample moisture -- PW anomalies +2 to +3 sigma --
    as a surface low over SD moves northward later this afternoon.
    Convergent flow toward the nose of the sfc-based instability
    gradient just to the east is expected to promote some south-to-
    north convection that may overlap areas that saw a few inches of
    rain on Saturday. Maintained the Slight Risk outline here with a
    Marginal Risk buffer extending to the south to the edge of the Sand
    Hills.

    ...Central and Southern Plains...

    Split the longer Marginal Risk area from the previous forecast
    into its own entity and extended it even farther southward to the
    Mexican border to account for another tick up in expected
    convection from KS southward to TX. Storms should fire along and
    ahead of a low-level confluence axis and within a stripe of deeper
    moisture. Some of these areas in W TX saw a couple/few inches of
    rain on Saturday and FFG values are lower. Some models do indicate
    the potential for slow-moving or backbuilding cells, resulting in
    locally heavy amounts and perhaps isolated flash flooding concerns.

    Fracasso



    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 15 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA AND SOUTHEASTERN VIRGINIA...

    As a mid-to-upper level low takes shape over the Southeast, the
    surface low off of the Southeast Coast is expected to deepen and track
    north and then northwest toward the Outer Banks by Tuesday=20
    morning. Models continue to move into better agreement with the=20
    overall track of the system, but show significant spread with=20
    respect to QPF. The general consensus of the 12Z HREF guidance=20
    keeps the heaviest precipitation confined over eastern North=20
    Carolina and far southeastern Virginia, while some other models,=20
    most notably the Canadian Regional and Global, spread heavy=20
    amounts farther west, closer to the mid-level center. Models=20
    generally agree that eastern North Carolina and southeastern=20
    Virginia will become the focus for a strong easterly low level jet=20
    and deepening moisture (PWs increasing to 1.5-2 inches). While the
    primary soil types and pre-existing dry conditions may initially=20
    limit the threat for runoff concerns, embedded convection may raise
    rainfall rates, resulting in at least isolated excessive runoff,=20
    especially across urbanized areas. Therefore, a Marginal Risk was=20 introduced. The highlighted area leans closer to the 12Z HREF=20
    consensus and its higher neighborhood probabilities. Probabilities=20
    of amounts exceeding 3 inches are above 50 percent within much of=20
    the risk area. Given the noted uncertainty, adjustments including=20
    an increase in category cannot be ruled out.=20

    Pereira

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025


    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN SOUTHERN NEW
    MEXICO, THE CENTRAL PLAINS, AND COASTAL VIRGINIA/NORTH CAROLINA...

    20Z Update...

    Broadened the Marginal Risk over southeastern Virginia to also
    include portions of northeastern North Carolina. Some models,=20
    including the ECMWF, show additional heavy amounts carrying over=20
    into Day 3 across the region -- which given the anticipation of=20
    heavy amounts impacting this region on Day 3, may prolong runoff=20
    concerns. As on Day 2, continued to lean toward the more easterly=20
    guidance. However, given the uncertainty, additional adjustments=20
    may be forthcoming.

    Further west, the upper trough moving across the Rockies has
    trended slower. The general consensus of the models shows the axis
    of associated precipitation shifting further west, with many of the
    models showing their heaviest amounts centered over the flood-resistent Nebraska Sandhills. Therefore, shifted the previous outlook=20
    further west, confining the footprint to the more sensitive areas=20
    from the southern Nebraska Panhandle to northwestern Kansas.

    Pereira

    Previous Discussion...

    ...Southern New Mexico...

    Moisture will start to nudge upward over southern NM (though much
    more well west of there) with some afternoon instability and
    expected isolated convection, mainly over the mountains close to
    the Mexican border. Low-end Marginal Risk is outlined here though
    activity should be rather isolated.

    ...Central Plains...

    Positively-tilted trough over the Northern Rockies will move
    eastward to the High Plains Tuesday afternoon. Broad westerly mid-
    level flow amid increasing moisture will help fire off some storms
    over at least NE near the better forcing but also southward into
    KS. A Marginal Risk is outlined here for an isolated flash flood
    threat.

    ...Coastal Virginia...

    Over the past couple of days, the models have trended toward
    bringing in an area of low pressure near the Outer Banks Tuesday
    morning or so. Rain should spread inland on Monday with additional
    and perhaps heavier rain on Wednesday. This area has been rather
    dry recently and rain rates may not be all that high, but some convection-driven rain is possible depending on the flavor of this
    area of low pressure. A Marginal Risk is depicted for
    southeastern/coastal Virginia and far northeastern North Carolina
    but with a lot of uncertainty in the rainfall
    pattern/rates/duration.

    Fracasso


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8pRsiZm5wf4fsGB9HVC5A5m04JVW7wXwUNZDahfh7ARJ= ORN295dcQKML4H_oQqWLH6tDzHfIzdiYyVf2gIxRu89OgHE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8pRsiZm5wf4fsGB9HVC5A5m04JVW7wXwUNZDahfh7ARJ= ORN295dcQKML4H_oQqWLH6tDzHfIzdiYyVf2gIxRMXa7a0M$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8pRsiZm5wf4fsGB9HVC5A5m04JVW7wXwUNZDahfh7ARJ= ORN295dcQKML4H_oQqWLH6tDzHfIzdiYyVf2gIxRLjTIOT0$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Sep 15 00:27:35 2025
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    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    827 PM EDT Sun Sep 14 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Mon Sep 15 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 15 2025


    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN THE CENTRAL
    DAKOTAS...


    ...Northern Plains...
    A northward-moving upper level low brings a southerly flow regime=20
    across the Northern Plains, which comes along with ample moisture
    -- PW anomalies +2 to +3 sigma. Convergent flow toward the nose of the
    sfc- based instability gradient just to the east is expected to=20
    promote some south-to- north convection that may overlap areas=20
    that saw a few inches of rain on Saturday. Maintained the Slight=20
    Risk outline here with a Marginal Risk buffer extending to the=20
    south to the edge of the Sand Hills. Few changes were made to the=20
    01z update from the 16z update, which resembles the earlier 09z=20
    issuance.


    ...Central and Southern Plains...
    Thunderstorms in this region should hang on for a few more hours.
    As their coverage is isolated to widely scattered, kept the
    associated risk as Marginal. Little change was made to continuity
    here.

    Roth



    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 15 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA AND SOUTHEASTERN VIRGINIA...

    As a mid-to-upper level low takes shape over the Southeast, the
    surface low off of the Southeast Coast is expected to deepen and track
    north and then northwest toward the Outer Banks by Tuesday
    morning. Models continue to move into better agreement with the
    overall track of the system, but show significant spread with
    respect to QPF. The general consensus of the 12Z HREF guidance
    keeps the heaviest precipitation confined over eastern North
    Carolina and far southeastern Virginia, while some other models,
    most notably the Canadian Regional and Global, spread heavy
    amounts farther west, closer to the mid-level center. Models
    generally agree that eastern North Carolina and southeastern
    Virginia will become the focus for a strong easterly low level jet
    and deepening moisture (PWs increasing to 1.5-2 inches). While the
    primary soil types and pre-existing dry conditions may initially
    limit the threat for runoff concerns, embedded convection may raise
    rainfall rates, resulting in at least isolated excessive runoff,
    especially across urbanized areas. Therefore, a Marginal Risk was
    introduced. The highlighted area leans closer to the 12Z HREF
    consensus and its higher neighborhood probabilities. Probabilities
    of amounts exceeding 3 inches are above 50 percent within much of
    the risk area. Given the noted uncertainty, adjustments including
    an increase in category cannot be ruled out.

    Pereira

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025


    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN SOUTHERN NEW
    MEXICO, THE CENTRAL PLAINS, AND COASTAL VIRGINIA/NORTH CAROLINA...

    20Z Update...

    Broadened the Marginal Risk over southeastern Virginia to also
    include portions of northeastern North Carolina. Some models,
    including the ECMWF, show additional heavy amounts carrying over
    into Day 3 across the region -- which given the anticipation of
    heavy amounts impacting this region on Day 3, may prolong runoff
    concerns. As on Day 2, continued to lean toward the more easterly
    guidance. However, given the uncertainty, additional adjustments
    may be forthcoming.

    Further west, the upper trough moving across the Rockies has
    trended slower. The general consensus of the models shows the axis
    of associated precipitation shifting further west, with many of the
    models showing their heaviest amounts centered over the flood-resistent Nebraska Sandhills. Therefore, shifted the previous outlook
    further west, confining the footprint to the more sensitive areas
    from the southern Nebraska Panhandle to northwestern Kansas.

    Pereira

    Previous Discussion...

    ...Southern New Mexico...

    Moisture will start to nudge upward over southern NM (though much
    more well west of there) with some afternoon instability and
    expected isolated convection, mainly over the mountains close to
    the Mexican border. Low-end Marginal Risk is outlined here though
    activity should be rather isolated.

    ...Central Plains...

    Positively-tilted trough over the Northern Rockies will move
    eastward to the High Plains Tuesday afternoon. Broad westerly mid-
    level flow amid increasing moisture will help fire off some storms
    over at least NE near the better forcing but also southward into
    KS. A Marginal Risk is outlined here for an isolated flash flood
    threat.

    ...Coastal Virginia...

    Over the past couple of days, the models have trended toward
    bringing in an area of low pressure near the Outer Banks Tuesday
    morning or so. Rain should spread inland on Monday with additional
    and perhaps heavier rain on Wednesday. This area has been rather
    dry recently and rain rates may not be all that high, but some convection-driven rain is possible depending on the flavor of this
    area of low pressure. A Marginal Risk is depicted for
    southeastern/coastal Virginia and far northeastern North Carolina
    but with a lot of uncertainty in the rainfall
    pattern/rates/duration.

    Fracasso


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!45sIajUBxn-NuRYiSp6yFiF_595ULNxd3VJtCiijSAWF= LNzEwASk1uOaXHQDpCaOrAFM4Fvbg225qGbWwL6nl55R33o$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!45sIajUBxn-NuRYiSp6yFiF_595ULNxd3VJtCiijSAWF= LNzEwASk1uOaXHQDpCaOrAFM4Fvbg225qGbWwL6nkN8vuno$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!45sIajUBxn-NuRYiSp6yFiF_595ULNxd3VJtCiijSAWF= LNzEwASk1uOaXHQDpCaOrAFM4Fvbg225qGbWwL6nNtbScPg$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Sep 15 07:43:50 2025
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    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    343 AM EDT Mon Sep 15 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 15 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA AND SOUTHEASTERN VIRGINIA...

    Current WV satellite indicates a maturing mid-level trough situated
    just off the SC/GA coast with a surface low analyzed 150 miles=20
    east of KILM, meandering around as the upper pattern evolves.=20
    Expectation is the surface low to be pulled northwest over the=20
    course of the D1 with a closer proximity to the NC coast by later
    this afternoon and evening with a strong east to northeast flow
    anticipated over the northern flank of the SLP. Current NAEFS
    ensemble output is forecasting a stout +2/+3 deviation u-vector
    wind component with origins straight off the Atlantic, a signal
    coincident with a robust low-level moisture advection regime into
    the northern and western flank of the low pressure center. PWATs
    are anticipated to climb closer to +1.5 deviations above climo,
    good enough for outputs within the 1.5-2" mark across much of
    eastern NC into the VA Tidewater. The persistence in the low-level
    flow and modest ascent located within the maturing deformation axis
    will lead to a long period of heavy rainfall situated across the
    aforementioned areas above, allowing totals to reach between 2-4"
    over areas along and east of I-95 and north of US70 in NC, and
    between 1-3" across the VA Tidewater.=20

    00z HREF is pretty robust in the depiction for the above totals=20
    forecast with some embedded convective elements likely to spur=20
    rates between 1-2"/hr at times, mainly across northeast NC where=20
    strongest 850-700mb FGEN signals align early this evening into the=20
    overnight hours. HREF neighborhood and EAS probs for >2" are pretty
    high for the region with the neighborhood >3" signal settling=20
    between 50-90% for the zone referenced above in NC. Antecedent=20
    drier soils leading in will help curb some of the flash flooding=20
    concerns initially, but the long-standing heavy rain threat, and=20
    embedded convective potential the second half of the forecast could
    lead to isolated/scattered bouts of flash flooding as the event=20
    continues. The previous MRGL risk was expanded to align with the=20
    trends in the >3" neighborhood prob signal in the HREF, and to=20
    account for the latest ECMWF EFI signal extended a bit further west
    than where we had the previous MRGL risk located.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST, THE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS, AND VIRGINIA/NORTH=20
    CAROLINA...

    ...Southwest...

    Scattered convective pattern will initiate on Tuesday afternoon and
    early evening before fading with the loss of diurnal heating.
    Current progs are for convection to be tied closer to the terrain
    across southeast AZ into southern NM with isolated signatures of
    1"/hr plausible in the stronger cell cores. These areas generally
    prone to runoff due to terrain complexities, as well as remnant
    burn scars present in some locations. Maintained continuity from
    inherited MRGL risk with some minor adjustments to remove El Paso
    proper.

    ...Central High Plains...

    Strong shortwave trough ejection out of the interior Northwest will
    lead to convective development and regional enhancement across the
    Central High Plains. Greatest ascent is aligned with the diffluent
    region of the mid-level shortwave with left-exit region dynamics
    likely to maintain a prevalent heavy rain signature across the
    western third of NE down into neighboring northeast CO and
    northwest KS. Heaviest rain could remain just outside of the risk
    area according to some guidance leading to low probability of flash
    flooding due to the occurrence within the western Sand Hills.
    There's still a good agreement on localized maxima within the hi-
    res ensemble means, pin-pointing the area west of North Platte, NE
    as one of the favorable spots for convective impacts. FFG's in this
    corridor are lower than the neighboring Sand Hill domain, so the
    MRGL risk remains relatively small.=20

    ...Virginia and North Carolina...

    Our surface low will mature and occlude by Tuesday afternoon as the
    closed height fields indicate the 850/700/500 mb lows becoming
    vertically stacked leading to a slow decay of the surface low by
    the second half of the period. Persistent heavy rain potential will
    linger across eastern NC up into the VA Tidewater leading to
    multi-day totals reaching 2-4" with locally upwards of 6-7" over
    the span of 48 hrs. Despite the drier soils leading into the event,
    the cumulative effect will lead to areal flooding concerns for
    portions of the above locations. Some westerly push of the heavier
    QPF is progged in the front half of D2 leading to some areas in
    north-central NC up through south-central VA possibly sneaking into
    the flash flood threat. The only good news is the weakening surface
    low will lead to degrading rates eventually, and slow wane on the
    threat. The MRGL risk inherited was maintained with some minor
    westerly expansions to account for recent trends in the ensemble
    means.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PARTS OF THE
    NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS, SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS, AND SOUTHEAST
    FLORIDA...

    ...Northern and Central Plains...

    A strong mid-level shortwave trough will eject into the WY Front
    Range and eventually close off across NE generating a maturing lee
    cyclone across the Central High Plains. The setup will likely cause
    quite a robust deformation signature on the northwest flank of the
    cyclone with ensemble mean QPF placement situated over western NE
    up through southwestern SD, arcing back into the nose of the warm-
    conveyor belt on the northeast side of the system. This is a
    classic mid-latitude lee cyclogenesis setup with a strong jet
    coupling leading to broad large scale forcing and widespread precip
    across the Plains. Eastern side of the cyclone will exhibit the
    best convective potential while the deformation axis provides a
    solid precip field with moderate to locally heavy rates for several
    hrs. in that northwest side of the low. Totals >2" are forecast
    within the means across western NE into SD with scattered elevated
    QPF across the Missouri River basin located in eastern SD and NE.
    This setup is conducive for at least some isolated to scattered
    flash flood prospects considering the synoptic evolution. This was
    enough to warrant a MRGL risk in those areas deemed the best chance
    for heavy rain prospects.=20

    ...Southern High Plains...

    Maturing lee side low to the north will help drag a trailing cold
    front through the Central and Southern High Plains on Wednesday.
    The front will slip south and southwest once down near the
    latitude of the OK Panhandle, leading to a more textbook backdoor
    frontal progression as it enters into the northern TX Panhandle and
    northeast NM. Flow begins to run more parallel to the boundary in
    these zones when assessing forecast soundings from relevant global deterministic. The key in the setup is a relatively solid
    isentropic ascent pattern in a small zone bordering CO/OK/NM/TX
    with cross-section views over the area displaying a classic sloped
    low-level surface FGEN with strong omega correlating to rapid
    ascent as the front progresses through the area. Locally enhanced
    corridor of precip will transpire along and in wake of the front
    with local maxima of 1.5" to as much as 3" plausible during the
    event. This could be enough for an isolated flash flood threat,
    especially in those smaller urban areas situated across the 4 state intersection. A MRGL risk has been added to account for the threat.=20

    ...Southeast Florida...

    Stalled front with an enhanced moisture return across South FL will
    lead to a heightened threat for flash flooding over the urban
    centers of southeast FL. Deterministic output is scattered in the
    exact location of the heaviest precip, ranging from the Keys up to
    West Palm Beach and everywhere in-between. The setup is
    historically favorable for flash flood concerns over the urban
    zones of southeast FL with PWATs hovering between 2-2.3", a solid
    1/1.5 deviations above normal. In coordination with the Miami WFO,
    a MRGL was maintained for that urbanized coastal corridor between
    West Palm down to Miami proper since this is the most likely
    location for flash flooding in this type of setup. Will monitor
    convective trends as we get closer to see if this necessitates any
    expansion, or even a targeted upgrade.=20=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7wAcp3e26pHaTKwxLDhR1nwMGJhLX0HINxvZzsf6cC66= Q9weu9OXd2lKJ36dxO4pnUTrcJ3c5lSsgGceeFJE9Zi39CI$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7wAcp3e26pHaTKwxLDhR1nwMGJhLX0HINxvZzsf6cC66= Q9weu9OXd2lKJ36dxO4pnUTrcJ3c5lSsgGceeFJEdNkhp7k$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7wAcp3e26pHaTKwxLDhR1nwMGJhLX0HINxvZzsf6cC66= Q9weu9OXd2lKJ36dxO4pnUTrcJ3c5lSsgGceeFJE159a_xw$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 151600
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1200 PM EDT Mon Sep 15 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon Sep 15 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA AND SOUTHEASTERN VIRGINIA...

    ...Eastern North Carolina and Southeast Virginia...
    WV imagery off the NC coast indicates convection associated with a
    deepening low pressure. This feature is deepening in response to=20
    potent closed low (500mb heights below the 10th percentile=20
    according to NAEFS) digging across the Carolinas and interacting=20
    with a stationary front offshore. Subtle upper diffluence in the=20
    distant RRQ of a jet streak near New England is additionally=20
    providing ascent, leading to pressure falls within the surface low.
    This should continue to deepen the wave offshore, leading to=20
    intensifying onshore moist flow (850mb winds reaching -3 sigma in=20
    to the west) driving intense moisture confluence into NC/VA through
    tonight as the low lifts very slowly north/northwest, likely=20
    moving onshore the Outer Banks before 12Z Tuesday.

    While there continues to be some uncertainty into the exact timing
    and track of this low pressure system, guidance has trended
    stronger with more pronounced moisture advection to the W/NW. This
    will result in heavy rainfall spreading onshore from southeast
    North Carolina through the Tidewater region of VA and potentially
    reaching as far north as southern Delaware before Tuesday morning.
    The heaviest rainfall is likely to fall along an axis of strong
    900-700mb fgen aligned just NW of the surface low, with additional
    heavy rain likely anywhere north of the low center due to
    persistent onshore flow and convergence. In these areas, this
    onshore flow will additionally surge instability to 250-500 J/kg,
    especially this evening/tonight, which, while modest, will be
    sufficient in the very moist environment to improve rainfall
    efficiency and support rainfall rates of 1-2"/hr. Where these
    train/repeat, total rainfall of 3-5" with locally higher amounts
    are likely.

    Although this area has been dry recently (7-day rainfall from AHPS
    generally less than 5% with few exceptions) leading to elevated
    FFG, this type of rainfall can still overwhelm the soils in
    scattered locations. This is reflected by 12Z HREF 3-hr FFG
    exceedance probabilities rising to around 20%, so despite the
    antecedent dryness, and after coordination with WFOs MHX/RAH/AKQ, a
    targeted SLGT risk was introduced with this D1 update.


    ...Ozarks...
    A weak mid-level impulse pushing into a short-wavelength but high
    amplitude ridge this evening will likely result in slow moving
    showers and thunderstorms. While coverage is expected to be widely
    scattered, rainfall rates within convection will likely reach
    1-2"/hr in response to impressive thermodynamics characterized by
    MUCAPE of 2000-3000 J/kg overlapping PWs of 1.5 to 1.75 inches.
    These storms will additionally move quite slowly as 0-6km mean
    winds will be just around 5 kts, with additionally chaotic and slow
    propagation vectors. While locally this could result in 2-3" of
    rain (HREF and REFS probabilities for exceeding 3" peak around
    20-30%), this will fall atop dry soils leading to only an isolated
    chance of FFG exceedance. Opted to hold off on a MRGL risk for this
    area as the probability appears to be less than 5% for excessive
    rainfall today.


    Weiss


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST, THE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS, AND VIRGINIA/NORTH
    CAROLINA...

    ...Southwest...

    Scattered convective pattern will initiate on Tuesday afternoon and
    early evening before fading with the loss of diurnal heating.
    Current progs are for convection to be tied closer to the terrain
    across southeast AZ into southern NM with isolated signatures of
    1"/hr plausible in the stronger cell cores. These areas generally
    prone to runoff due to terrain complexities, as well as remnant
    burn scars present in some locations. Maintained continuity from
    inherited MRGL risk with some minor adjustments to remove El Paso
    proper.

    ...Central High Plains...

    Strong shortwave trough ejection out of the interior Northwest will
    lead to convective development and regional enhancement across the
    Central High Plains. Greatest ascent is aligned with the diffluent
    region of the mid-level shortwave with left-exit region dynamics
    likely to maintain a prevalent heavy rain signature across the
    western third of NE down into neighboring northeast CO and
    northwest KS. Heaviest rain could remain just outside of the risk
    area according to some guidance leading to low probability of flash
    flooding due to the occurrence within the western Sand Hills.
    There's still a good agreement on localized maxima within the hi-
    res ensemble means, pin-pointing the area west of North Platte, NE
    as one of the favorable spots for convective impacts. FFG's in this
    corridor are lower than the neighboring Sand Hill domain, so the
    MRGL risk remains relatively small.

    ...Virginia and North Carolina...

    Our surface low will mature and occlude by Tuesday afternoon as the
    closed height fields indicate the 850/700/500 mb lows becoming
    vertically stacked leading to a slow decay of the surface low by
    the second half of the period. Persistent heavy rain potential will
    linger across eastern NC up into the VA Tidewater leading to
    multi-day totals reaching 2-4" with locally upwards of 6-7" over
    the span of 48 hrs. Despite the drier soils leading into the event,
    the cumulative effect will lead to areal flooding concerns for
    portions of the above locations. Some westerly push of the heavier
    QPF is progged in the front half of D2 leading to some areas in
    north-central NC up through south-central VA possibly sneaking into
    the flash flood threat. The only good news is the weakening surface
    low will lead to degrading rates eventually, and slow wane on the
    threat. The MRGL risk inherited was maintained with some minor
    westerly expansions to account for recent trends in the ensemble
    means.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PARTS OF THE
    NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS, SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS, AND SOUTHEAST
    FLORIDA...

    ...Northern and Central Plains...

    A strong mid-level shortwave trough will eject into the WY Front
    Range and eventually close off across NE generating a maturing lee
    cyclone across the Central High Plains. The setup will likely cause
    quite a robust deformation signature on the northwest flank of the
    cyclone with ensemble mean QPF placement situated over western NE
    up through southwestern SD, arcing back into the nose of the warm-
    conveyor belt on the northeast side of the system. This is a
    classic mid-latitude lee cyclogenesis setup with a strong jet
    coupling leading to broad large scale forcing and widespread precip
    across the Plains. Eastern side of the cyclone will exhibit the
    best convective potential while the deformation axis provides a
    solid precip field with moderate to locally heavy rates for several
    hrs. in that northwest side of the low. Totals >2" are forecast
    within the means across western NE into SD with scattered elevated
    QPF across the Missouri River basin located in eastern SD and NE.
    This setup is conducive for at least some isolated to scattered
    flash flood prospects considering the synoptic evolution. This was
    enough to warrant a MRGL risk in those areas deemed the best chance
    for heavy rain prospects.

    ...Southern High Plains...

    Maturing lee side low to the north will help drag a trailing cold
    front through the Central and Southern High Plains on Wednesday.
    The front will slip south and southwest once down near the
    latitude of the OK Panhandle, leading to a more textbook backdoor
    frontal progression as it enters into the northern TX Panhandle and
    northeast NM. Flow begins to run more parallel to the boundary in
    these zones when assessing forecast soundings from relevant global deterministic. The key in the setup is a relatively solid
    isentropic ascent pattern in a small zone bordering CO/OK/NM/TX
    with cross-section views over the area displaying a classic sloped
    low-level surface FGEN with strong omega correlating to rapid
    ascent as the front progresses through the area. Locally enhanced
    corridor of precip will transpire along and in wake of the front
    with local maxima of 1.5" to as much as 3" plausible during the
    event. This could be enough for an isolated flash flood threat,
    especially in those smaller urban areas situated across the 4 state intersection. A MRGL risk has been added to account for the threat.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    Stalled front with an enhanced moisture return across South FL will
    lead to a heightened threat for flash flooding over the urban
    centers of southeast FL. Deterministic output is scattered in the
    exact location of the heaviest precip, ranging from the Keys up to
    West Palm Beach and everywhere in-between. The setup is
    historically favorable for flash flood concerns over the urban
    zones of southeast FL with PWATs hovering between 2-2.3", a solid
    1/1.5 deviations above normal. In coordination with the Miami WFO,
    a MRGL was maintained for that urbanized coastal corridor between
    West Palm down to Miami proper since this is the most likely
    location for flash flooding in this type of setup. Will monitor
    convective trends as we get closer to see if this necessitates any
    expansion, or even a targeted upgrade.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5XirESeycZHKTGmXQrnNZeYcMGs_T-snrqpmIK8plRZz= -g6Pu6sf39dQGpjIg2_Ui59ceZ1iCryILj2Yp2l0xrj5KPA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5XirESeycZHKTGmXQrnNZeYcMGs_T-snrqpmIK8plRZz= -g6Pu6sf39dQGpjIg2_Ui59ceZ1iCryILj2Yp2l0bCFsr9M$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5XirESeycZHKTGmXQrnNZeYcMGs_T-snrqpmIK8plRZz= -g6Pu6sf39dQGpjIg2_Ui59ceZ1iCryILj2Yp2l0dOHsYi0$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Sep 15 16:05:31 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 151605
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1205 PM EDT Mon Sep 15 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon Sep 15 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF=20
    EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA AND SOUTHEASTERN VIRGINIA...

    ...Eastern North Carolina and Southeast Virginia...
    WV imagery off the NC coast indicates convection associated with a
    deepening low pressure. This feature is deepening in response to
    potent closed low (500mb heights below the 10th percentile
    according to NAEFS) digging across the Carolinas and interacting
    with a stationary front offshore. Subtle upper diffluence in the
    distant RRQ of a jet streak near New England is additionally
    providing ascent, leading to pressure falls within the surface low.
    This should continue to deepen the wave offshore, leading to
    intensifying onshore moist flow (850mb winds reaching -3 sigma in
    to the west) driving intense moisture confluence into NC/VA through
    tonight as the low lifts very slowly north/northwest, likely
    moving onshore the Outer Banks before 12Z Tuesday.

    While there continues to be some uncertainty into the exact timing
    and track of this low pressure system, guidance has trended
    stronger with more pronounced moisture advection to the W/NW. This
    will result in heavy rainfall spreading onshore from southeast
    North Carolina through the Tidewater region of VA and potentially
    reaching as far north as southern Delaware before Tuesday morning.
    The heaviest rainfall is likely to fall along an axis of strong
    900-700mb fgen aligned just NW of the surface low, with additional
    heavy rain likely anywhere north of the low center due to
    persistent onshore flow and convergence. In these areas, this
    onshore flow will additionally surge instability to 250-500 J/kg,
    especially this evening/tonight, which, while modest, will be
    sufficient in the very moist environment to improve rainfall
    efficiency and support rainfall rates of 1-2"/hr. Where these
    train/repeat, total rainfall of 3-5" with locally higher amounts
    are likely.

    Although this area has been dry recently (7-day rainfall from AHPS
    generally less than 5% with few exceptions) leading to elevated
    FFG, this type of rainfall can still overwhelm the soils in
    scattered locations. This is reflected by 12Z HREF 3-hr FFG
    exceedance probabilities rising to around 20%, so despite the
    antecedent dryness, and after coordination with WFOs MHX/RAH/AKQ, a
    targeted SLGT risk was introduced with this D1 update.


    ...Ozarks...
    A weak mid-level impulse pushing into a short-wavelength but high
    amplitude ridge this evening will likely result in slow moving
    showers and thunderstorms. While coverage is expected to be widely
    scattered, rainfall rates within convection will likely reach
    1-2"/hr in response to impressive thermodynamics characterized by
    MUCAPE of 2000-3000 J/kg overlapping PWs of 1.5 to 1.75 inches.
    These storms will additionally move quite slowly as 0-6km mean
    winds will be just around 5 kts, with additionally chaotic and slow
    propagation vectors. While locally this could result in 2-3" of
    rain (HREF and REFS probabilities for exceeding 3" peak around
    20-30%), this will fall atop dry soils leading to only an isolated
    chance of FFG exceedance. Opted to hold off on a MRGL risk for this
    area as the probability appears to be less than 5% for excessive
    rainfall today.


    Weiss


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST, THE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS, AND VIRGINIA/NORTH
    CAROLINA...

    ...Southwest...

    Scattered convective pattern will initiate on Tuesday afternoon and
    early evening before fading with the loss of diurnal heating.
    Current progs are for convection to be tied closer to the terrain
    across southeast AZ into southern NM with isolated signatures of
    1"/hr plausible in the stronger cell cores. These areas generally
    prone to runoff due to terrain complexities, as well as remnant
    burn scars present in some locations. Maintained continuity from
    inherited MRGL risk with some minor adjustments to remove El Paso
    proper.

    ...Central High Plains...

    Strong shortwave trough ejection out of the interior Northwest will
    lead to convective development and regional enhancement across the
    Central High Plains. Greatest ascent is aligned with the diffluent
    region of the mid-level shortwave with left-exit region dynamics
    likely to maintain a prevalent heavy rain signature across the
    western third of NE down into neighboring northeast CO and
    northwest KS. Heaviest rain could remain just outside of the risk
    area according to some guidance leading to low probability of flash
    flooding due to the occurrence within the western Sand Hills.
    There's still a good agreement on localized maxima within the hi-
    res ensemble means, pin-pointing the area west of North Platte, NE
    as one of the favorable spots for convective impacts. FFG's in this
    corridor are lower than the neighboring Sand Hill domain, so the
    MRGL risk remains relatively small.

    ...Virginia and North Carolina...

    Our surface low will mature and occlude by Tuesday afternoon as the
    closed height fields indicate the 850/700/500 mb lows becoming
    vertically stacked leading to a slow decay of the surface low by
    the second half of the period. Persistent heavy rain potential will
    linger across eastern NC up into the VA Tidewater leading to
    multi-day totals reaching 2-4" with locally upwards of 6-7" over
    the span of 48 hrs. Despite the drier soils leading into the event,
    the cumulative effect will lead to areal flooding concerns for
    portions of the above locations. Some westerly push of the heavier
    QPF is progged in the front half of D2 leading to some areas in
    north-central NC up through south-central VA possibly sneaking into
    the flash flood threat. The only good news is the weakening surface
    low will lead to degrading rates eventually, and slow wane on the
    threat. The MRGL risk inherited was maintained with some minor
    westerly expansions to account for recent trends in the ensemble
    means.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PARTS OF THE
    NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS, SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS, AND SOUTHEAST
    FLORIDA...

    ...Northern and Central Plains...

    A strong mid-level shortwave trough will eject into the WY Front
    Range and eventually close off across NE generating a maturing lee
    cyclone across the Central High Plains. The setup will likely cause
    quite a robust deformation signature on the northwest flank of the
    cyclone with ensemble mean QPF placement situated over western NE
    up through southwestern SD, arcing back into the nose of the warm-
    conveyor belt on the northeast side of the system. This is a
    classic mid-latitude lee cyclogenesis setup with a strong jet
    coupling leading to broad large scale forcing and widespread precip
    across the Plains. Eastern side of the cyclone will exhibit the
    best convective potential while the deformation axis provides a
    solid precip field with moderate to locally heavy rates for several
    hrs. in that northwest side of the low. Totals >2" are forecast
    within the means across western NE into SD with scattered elevated
    QPF across the Missouri River basin located in eastern SD and NE.
    This setup is conducive for at least some isolated to scattered
    flash flood prospects considering the synoptic evolution. This was
    enough to warrant a MRGL risk in those areas deemed the best chance
    for heavy rain prospects.

    ...Southern High Plains...

    Maturing lee side low to the north will help drag a trailing cold
    front through the Central and Southern High Plains on Wednesday.
    The front will slip south and southwest once down near the
    latitude of the OK Panhandle, leading to a more textbook backdoor
    frontal progression as it enters into the northern TX Panhandle and
    northeast NM. Flow begins to run more parallel to the boundary in
    these zones when assessing forecast soundings from relevant global deterministic. The key in the setup is a relatively solid
    isentropic ascent pattern in a small zone bordering CO/OK/NM/TX
    with cross-section views over the area displaying a classic sloped
    low-level surface FGEN with strong omega correlating to rapid
    ascent as the front progresses through the area. Locally enhanced
    corridor of precip will transpire along and in wake of the front
    with local maxima of 1.5" to as much as 3" plausible during the
    event. This could be enough for an isolated flash flood threat,
    especially in those smaller urban areas situated across the 4 state intersection. A MRGL risk has been added to account for the threat.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    Stalled front with an enhanced moisture return across South FL will
    lead to a heightened threat for flash flooding over the urban
    centers of southeast FL. Deterministic output is scattered in the
    exact location of the heaviest precip, ranging from the Keys up to
    West Palm Beach and everywhere in-between. The setup is
    historically favorable for flash flood concerns over the urban
    zones of southeast FL with PWATs hovering between 2-2.3", a solid
    1/1.5 deviations above normal. In coordination with the Miami WFO,
    a MRGL was maintained for that urbanized coastal corridor between
    West Palm down to Miami proper since this is the most likely
    location for flash flooding in this type of setup. Will monitor
    convective trends as we get closer to see if this necessitates any
    expansion, or even a targeted upgrade.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_NXaa5uG11pXQZ0UBARdyafAnJtg64J3hMKaleJqwhzR= q3ImQhRxMoM_NKulVjDcIa0OESt1tTwT9ZlLeGczlm5Q08Q$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_NXaa5uG11pXQZ0UBARdyafAnJtg64J3hMKaleJqwhzR= q3ImQhRxMoM_NKulVjDcIa0OESt1tTwT9ZlLeGczArupwuo$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_NXaa5uG11pXQZ0UBARdyafAnJtg64J3hMKaleJqwhzR= q3ImQhRxMoM_NKulVjDcIa0OESt1tTwT9ZlLeGczS7-lqlk$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Sep 15 19:57:52 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 151957
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    357 PM EDT Mon Sep 15 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon Sep 15 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA AND SOUTHEASTERN VIRGINIA...

    ...Eastern North Carolina and Southeast Virginia...
    WV imagery off the NC coast indicates convection associated with a
    deepening low pressure. This feature is deepening in response to
    potent closed low (500mb heights below the 10th percentile
    according to NAEFS) digging across the Carolinas and interacting
    with a stationary front offshore. Subtle upper diffluence in the
    distant RRQ of a jet streak near New England is additionally
    providing ascent, leading to pressure falls within the surface low.
    This should continue to deepen the wave offshore, leading to
    intensifying onshore moist flow (850mb winds reaching -3 sigma in
    to the west) driving intense moisture confluence into NC/VA through
    tonight as the low lifts very slowly north/northwest, likely
    moving onshore the Outer Banks before 12Z Tuesday.

    While there continues to be some uncertainty into the exact timing
    and track of this low pressure system, guidance has trended
    stronger with more pronounced moisture advection to the W/NW. This
    will result in heavy rainfall spreading onshore from southeast
    North Carolina through the Tidewater region of VA and potentially
    reaching as far north as southern Delaware before Tuesday morning.
    The heaviest rainfall is likely to fall along an axis of strong
    900-700mb fgen aligned just NW of the surface low, with additional
    heavy rain likely anywhere north of the low center due to
    persistent onshore flow and convergence. In these areas, this
    onshore flow will additionally surge instability to 250-500 J/kg,
    especially this evening/tonight, which, while modest, will be
    sufficient in the very moist environment to improve rainfall
    efficiency and support rainfall rates of 1-2"/hr. Where these
    train/repeat, total rainfall of 3-5" with locally higher amounts
    are likely.

    Although this area has been dry recently (7-day rainfall from AHPS
    generally less than 5% with few exceptions) leading to elevated
    FFG, this type of rainfall can still overwhelm the soils in
    scattered locations. This is reflected by 12Z HREF 3-hr FFG
    exceedance probabilities rising to around 20%, so despite the
    antecedent dryness, and after coordination with WFOs MHX/RAH/AKQ, a
    targeted SLGT risk was introduced with this D1 update.


    ...Ozarks...
    A weak mid-level impulse pushing into a short-wavelength but high
    amplitude ridge this evening will likely result in slow moving
    showers and thunderstorms. While coverage is expected to be widely
    scattered, rainfall rates within convection will likely reach
    1-2"/hr in response to impressive thermodynamics characterized by
    MUCAPE of 2000-3000 J/kg overlapping PWs of 1.5 to 1.75 inches.
    These storms will additionally move quite slowly as 0-6km mean
    winds will be just around 5 kts, with additionally chaotic and slow
    propagation vectors. While locally this could result in 2-3" of
    rain (HREF and REFS probabilities for exceeding 3" peak around
    20-30%), this will fall atop dry soils leading to only an isolated
    chance of FFG exceedance. Opted to hold off on a MRGL risk for this
    area as the probability appears to be less than 5% for excessive
    rainfall today.


    Weiss


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA AND VIRGINIA...

    ...Virginia and North Carolina...
    The surface low moving onshore NC from Monday will occlude and then
    begin to return to the east as the system vertically stacks beneath
    an upper low. Despite the slow filling and opening of the parent
    mid-level low, continued ascent through PVA (weak vorticity maxima
    rotating around the low) and periods of enhanced upper diffluence,
    especially north of the low, will result in sufficient ascent to
    maintain heavy rainfall, especially the first half of Tuesday.
    Although synoptic lift will gradually wane, continued impressive
    onshore fetch on 850mb winds of 25-35 kts (and above the mean wind
    by almost 1.5x) will continue to transport elevated PWs above 1.5
    inches onshore while producing additional ascent through
    confluence. This will result in persistent training of moderate
    rainfall with embedded convective elements leading to rainfall
    rates for which the HREF neighborhood probabilities indicate a
    30-40% chance of exceeding 1"/hr at times.=20

    Where these rain rates train most efficiently through anti-
    parallel Corfidi vectors, additional rainfall on D2 could reach an=20 additional 2-4" with locally higher amounts, especially near the
    NC/VA border. This is also the area most likely to receive heavy
    rainfall on D1, so 48-hr rainfall could reach 5-8" with local 10"=20
    amounts possible. The REFS is a bit farther north than the HREF
    today, but is supported by the AIFS and the area of maximum upper
    divergence, so the MRGL risk was expanded a bit to the north, and a
    targeted SLGT risk was added where D2 rainfall most efficiently
    overlaps D1, leading to the enhanced flash flood risk. This was
    coordinated with the local WFOs.


    ...Southwest...
    A weak shortwave will emerge beneath the elongated mid-level ridge
    Tuesday evening, helping to enhance the otherwise typical diurnal
    convective activity across parts of AZ/NM. This weak impulse will
    impinge into increasingly favorable thermodynamics as low-level
    S/SE flow pushes PWs to 1-1.25 inches collocated with MUCAPE that
    will exceed 500 J/kg. This suggests a local maxima in convective
    coverage across southern AZ and into southern NM. Outside of any
    clusters that develop thanks to modest bulk shear as storms dive
    off the terrain later in the period, convection will slow moving on
    0-6km mean winds of just around 5-10 kts, leading to locally heavy
    rainfall capable of producing isolated flash flooding.


    ...Central High Plains...
    Amplifying trough across the Intermountain West will shed a
    shortwave into the Central Plains during the latter half of Tuesday
    into Tuesday night. This shortwave will impinge into a favorable
    airmass to spawn convection, reflected by PW forecasts of around
    1.25 inches overlapping MUCAPE exceeding 2000 J/kg. The primary
    longwave trough and the accompanying height falls/PVA combined with
    modest but intensifying upper diffluence will likely result in
    surface low developing in the lee of the Rockies, with a
    downstream warm front pushing into Nebraska serving as a convergent
    boundary for additional ascent. This warm front will waffle
    east/west in response to low-level jet energy pushing NW from
    OK/KS, resupplying the favorable thermodynamics to support
    convection.=20

    Thunderstorms that develop across this area will likely be heavy=20
    rain producers with 1-2"/hr rain rates supported by 30-40%=20
    probabilities from the HREF. Storms that develop will be supported=20
    as well by 24-40 kts of bulk shear to help organize convection into
    clusters, with some training along boundaries also expected. Where
    this rain is most pronounced, total rainfall could exceed 3 inches
    in a few locations, with the greatest potential focused near the
    KS/NE/CO juncture. Here, rainfall has been above normal the past 7
    days as well, compromising soils and creating FFG as low as
    2"/3hrs, so any additional heavy rain could cause runoff leading to
    instances of flash flooding. The threat still appears MRGL as
    inherited, but some cosmetic adjustments were made to refine the
    area based on new guidance.

    Weiss


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PARTS OF THE
    NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS, SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS, AND SOUTHEAST
    FLORIDA...

    20Z Update:
    Changes to the forecast ERO areas were minimal with this update.

    The MRGL risk across southeast Florida was maintained with little
    changes needed in response to good model agreement and trends in a
    surge of PWs lifting into the southern peninsula. With the previous
    discussion highlighting well the risk, and the coordination
    completed overnight with WFO MFL, only minor cosmetic adjustments
    were required.

    In the Northern Plains, the MRGL risk was expanded just slightly
    downstream of an amplifying trough axis digging out of the
    Intermountain West. However, the carving out of the Sand Hills was
    continued in response to the overall modest probabilities for
    exceedance of 3" QPF over higher FFG. The inherited MRGL risk was
    just expanded slightly to cover the highest axes of the new model
    QPF fields.

    Finally, in the Southern Plains, did make some modest southward
    adjustment to the inherited MRGL risk. The guidance has trended a=20
    bit faster/farther southwest with the trailing cold front and=20
    accompanying convection. This suggests that the heavier rainfall=20
    may occur atop drier soils with higher FFG, limiting the flash=20
    flood risk. There are still some low-end probabilities for heavy=20
    rain exceeding FFG, especially in the NW portion of the adjusted=20
    MRGL risk, so while the threat appears minimal, it was enough to=20
    continue the risk area at this time.

    Previous Discussions:

    ...Northern and Central Plains...
    A strong mid-level shortwave trough will eject into the WY Front=20
    Range and eventually close off across NE generating a maturing lee=20
    cyclone across the Central High Plains. The setup will likely cause
    quite a robust deformation signature on the northwest flank of the
    cyclone with ensemble mean QPF placement situated over western NE=20
    up through southwestern SD, arcing back into the nose of the warm-=20
    conveyor belt on the northeast side of the system. This is a=20
    classic mid-latitude lee cyclogenesis setup with a strong jet=20
    coupling leading to broad large scale forcing and widespread precip
    across the Plains. Eastern side of the cyclone will exhibit the=20
    best convective potential while the deformation axis provides a=20
    solid precip field with moderate to locally heavy rates for several
    hrs. in that northwest side of the low. Totals >2" are forecast=20
    within the means across western NE into SD with scattered elevated=20
    QPF across the Missouri River basin located in eastern SD and NE.=20
    This setup is conducive for at least some isolated to scattered=20
    flash flood prospects considering the synoptic evolution. This was=20
    enough to warrant a MRGL risk in those areas deemed the best chance
    for heavy rain prospects.

    ...Southern High Plains...
    Maturing lee side low to the north will help drag a trailing cold=20
    front through the Central and Southern High Plains on Wednesday.=20
    The front will slip south and southwest once down near the latitude
    of the OK Panhandle, leading to a more textbook backdoor frontal=20
    progression as it enters into the northern TX Panhandle and=20
    northeast NM. Flow begins to run more parallel to the boundary in=20
    these zones when assessing forecast soundings from relevant global=20 deterministic. The key in the setup is a relatively solid=20
    isentropic ascent pattern in a small zone bordering CO/OK/NM/TX=20
    with cross-section views over the area displaying a classic sloped=20
    low-level surface FGEN with strong omega correlating to rapid=20
    ascent as the front progresses through the area. Locally enhanced=20
    corridor of precip will transpire along and in wake of the front=20
    with local maxima of 1.5" to as much as 3" plausible during the=20
    event. This could be enough for an isolated flash flood threat,=20
    especially in those smaller urban areas situated across the 4 state intersection. A MRGL risk has been added to account for the=20
    threat.

    ...Southeast Florida...
    Stalled front with an enhanced moisture return across South FL=20
    will lead to a heightened threat for flash flooding over the urban=20
    centers of southeast FL. Deterministic output is scattered in the=20
    exact location of the heaviest precip, ranging from the Keys up to=20
    West Palm Beach and everywhere in- between. The setup is=20
    historically favorable for flash flood concerns over the urban=20
    zones of southeast FL with PWATs hovering between 2-2.3", a solid=20
    1/1.5 deviations above normal. In coordination with the Miami WFO,=20
    a MRGL was maintained for that urbanized coastal corridor between=20
    West Palm down to Miami proper since this is the most likely=20
    location for flash flooding in this type of setup. Will monitor=20
    convective trends as we get closer to see if this necessitates any=20 expansion, or even a targeted upgrade.

    ...Mid-Atlantic States...
    Although no MRGL risk was added at this time, the coastal low=20
    plaguing NC/VA will continue to move slowly northward Wednesday,=20
    spreading moisture via onshore flow into VA/MD/DE. The
    probabilisticguidance suggests only a very low-end threat for 3"=20
    of rainfall, but admittedly the guidance did not really pick up on=20
    the current heavy rain signal for NC/VA until within 3 days either.
    After coordination with AKQ, no MRGL risk was added at this time,=20
    but with some history of "over-performing" rainfall upstream, it is
    possible a targeted MRGL risk may be needed with later issuances.

    Kleebauer/Weiss


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    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-oIfPjzILcm4umx4GevHPBzmIF7pEeK0E54W9Ji00Amc= PdinIxvTM1oAViLzlMbCJnGHZoFwIdQV0BnXrp6aE9K4TMw$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-oIfPjzILcm4umx4GevHPBzmIF7pEeK0E54W9Ji00Amc= PdinIxvTM1oAViLzlMbCJnGHZoFwIdQV0BnXrp6a29wOBZ0$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Sep 15 21:20:27 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 152120
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    520 PM EDT Mon Sep 15 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 2118Z Mon Sep 15 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA AND SOUTHEASTERN VIRGINIA...

    ...Eastern North Carolina and Southeast Virginia...
    WV imagery off the NC coast indicates convection associated with a
    deepening low pressure. This feature is deepening in response to
    potent closed low (500mb heights below the 10th percentile
    according to NAEFS) digging across the Carolinas and interacting
    with a stationary front offshore. Subtle upper diffluence in the
    distant RRQ of a jet streak near New England is additionally
    providing ascent, leading to pressure falls within the surface low.
    This should continue to deepen the wave offshore, leading to
    intensifying onshore moist flow (850mb winds reaching -3 sigma in
    to the west) driving intense moisture confluence into NC/VA through
    tonight as the low lifts very slowly north/northwest, likely
    moving onshore the Outer Banks before 12Z Tuesday.

    While there continues to be some uncertainty into the exact timing
    and track of this low pressure system, guidance has trended
    stronger with more pronounced moisture advection to the W/NW. This
    will result in heavy rainfall spreading onshore from southeast
    North Carolina through the Tidewater region of VA and potentially
    reaching as far north as southern Delaware before Tuesday morning.
    The heaviest rainfall is likely to fall along an axis of strong
    900-700mb fgen aligned just NW of the surface low, with additional
    heavy rain likely anywhere north of the low center due to
    persistent onshore flow and convergence. In these areas, this
    onshore flow will additionally surge instability to 250-500 J/kg,
    especially this evening/tonight, which, while modest, will be
    sufficient in the very moist environment to improve rainfall
    efficiency and support rainfall rates of 1-2"/hr. Where these
    train/repeat, total rainfall of 3-5" with locally higher amounts
    are likely.

    Although this area has been dry recently (7-day rainfall from AHPS
    generally less than 5% with few exceptions) leading to elevated
    FFG, this type of rainfall can still overwhelm the soils in
    scattered locations. This is reflected by 12Z HREF 3-hr FFG
    exceedance probabilities rising to around 20%, so despite the
    antecedent dryness, and after coordination with WFOs MHX/RAH/AKQ, a
    targeted SLGT risk was introduced with this D1 update.


    ...Ozarks/in and near Missouri...=20
    A weak mid-level impulse pushing into a short-wavelength but high=20
    amplitude ridge this evening will likely result in slow moving=20
    showers and thunderstorms. While coverage is expected to be widely=20 scattered, rainfall rates within convection will likely reach=20
    1-2"/hr in response to impressive thermodynamics characterized by=20
    MUCAPE of 2000-3000 J/kg overlapping PWs of 1.5 to 1.75 inches.=20
    These storms will additionally move quite slowly as 0-6km mean=20
    winds will be just around 5 kts, with additionally chaotic and slow
    propagation vectors. While locally this could result in 2-3" of=20
    rain (HREF and REFS probabilities for exceeding 3" peak around=20
    20-30%). Elevated to a Marginal Risk to align messaging with
    Mesoscale Discussion #1089, which has additional details.


    Roth/Weiss


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA AND VIRGINIA...

    ...Virginia and North Carolina...
    The surface low moving onshore NC from Monday will occlude and then
    begin to return to the east as the system vertically stacks beneath
    an upper low. Despite the slow filling and opening of the parent
    mid-level low, continued ascent through PVA (weak vorticity maxima
    rotating around the low) and periods of enhanced upper diffluence,
    especially north of the low, will result in sufficient ascent to
    maintain heavy rainfall, especially the first half of Tuesday.
    Although synoptic lift will gradually wane, continued impressive
    onshore fetch on 850mb winds of 25-35 kts (and above the mean wind
    by almost 1.5x) will continue to transport elevated PWs above 1.5
    inches onshore while producing additional ascent through
    confluence. This will result in persistent training of moderate
    rainfall with embedded convective elements leading to rainfall
    rates for which the HREF neighborhood probabilities indicate a
    30-40% chance of exceeding 1"/hr at times.

    Where these rain rates train most efficiently through anti-
    parallel Corfidi vectors, additional rainfall on D2 could reach an
    additional 2-4" with locally higher amounts, especially near the
    NC/VA border. This is also the area most likely to receive heavy
    rainfall on D1, so 48-hr rainfall could reach 5-8" with local 10"
    amounts possible. The REFS is a bit farther north than the HREF
    today, but is supported by the AIFS and the area of maximum upper
    divergence, so the MRGL risk was expanded a bit to the north, and a
    targeted SLGT risk was added where D2 rainfall most efficiently
    overlaps D1, leading to the enhanced flash flood risk. This was
    coordinated with the local WFOs.


    ...Southwest...
    A weak shortwave will emerge beneath the elongated mid-level ridge
    Tuesday evening, helping to enhance the otherwise typical diurnal
    convective activity across parts of AZ/NM. This weak impulse will
    impinge into increasingly favorable thermodynamics as low-level
    S/SE flow pushes PWs to 1-1.25 inches collocated with MUCAPE that
    will exceed 500 J/kg. This suggests a local maxima in convective
    coverage across southern AZ and into southern NM. Outside of any
    clusters that develop thanks to modest bulk shear as storms dive
    off the terrain later in the period, convection will slow moving on
    0-6km mean winds of just around 5-10 kts, leading to locally heavy
    rainfall capable of producing isolated flash flooding.


    ...Central High Plains...
    Amplifying trough across the Intermountain West will shed a
    shortwave into the Central Plains during the latter half of Tuesday
    into Tuesday night. This shortwave will impinge into a favorable
    airmass to spawn convection, reflected by PW forecasts of around
    1.25 inches overlapping MUCAPE exceeding 2000 J/kg. The primary
    longwave trough and the accompanying height falls/PVA combined with
    modest but intensifying upper diffluence will likely result in
    surface low developing in the lee of the Rockies, with a
    downstream warm front pushing into Nebraska serving as a convergent
    boundary for additional ascent. This warm front will waffle
    east/west in response to low-level jet energy pushing NW from
    OK/KS, resupplying the favorable thermodynamics to support
    convection.

    Thunderstorms that develop across this area will likely be heavy
    rain producers with 1-2"/hr rain rates supported by 30-40%
    probabilities from the HREF. Storms that develop will be supported
    as well by 24-40 kts of bulk shear to help organize convection into
    clusters, with some training along boundaries also expected. Where
    this rain is most pronounced, total rainfall could exceed 3 inches
    in a few locations, with the greatest potential focused near the
    KS/NE/CO juncture. Here, rainfall has been above normal the past 7
    days as well, compromising soils and creating FFG as low as
    2"/3hrs, so any additional heavy rain could cause runoff leading to
    instances of flash flooding. The threat still appears MRGL as
    inherited, but some cosmetic adjustments were made to refine the
    area based on new guidance.

    Weiss


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PARTS OF THE
    NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS, SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS, AND SOUTHEAST
    FLORIDA...

    20Z Update:
    Changes to the forecast ERO areas were minimal with this update.

    The MRGL risk across southeast Florida was maintained with little
    changes needed in response to good model agreement and trends in a
    surge of PWs lifting into the southern peninsula. With the previous
    discussion highlighting well the risk, and the coordination
    completed overnight with WFO MFL, only minor cosmetic adjustments
    were required.

    In the Northern Plains, the MRGL risk was expanded just slightly
    downstream of an amplifying trough axis digging out of the
    Intermountain West. However, the carving out of the Sand Hills was
    continued in response to the overall modest probabilities for
    exceedance of 3" QPF over higher FFG. The inherited MRGL risk was
    just expanded slightly to cover the highest axes of the new model
    QPF fields.

    Finally, in the Southern Plains, did make some modest southward
    adjustment to the inherited MRGL risk. The guidance has trended a
    bit faster/farther southwest with the trailing cold front and
    accompanying convection. This suggests that the heavier rainfall
    may occur atop drier soils with higher FFG, limiting the flash
    flood risk. There are still some low-end probabilities for heavy
    rain exceeding FFG, especially in the NW portion of the adjusted
    MRGL risk, so while the threat appears minimal, it was enough to
    continue the risk area at this time.

    Previous Discussions:

    ...Northern and Central Plains...
    A strong mid-level shortwave trough will eject into the WY Front
    Range and eventually close off across NE generating a maturing lee
    cyclone across the Central High Plains. The setup will likely cause
    quite a robust deformation signature on the northwest flank of the
    cyclone with ensemble mean QPF placement situated over western NE
    up through southwestern SD, arcing back into the nose of the warm-
    conveyor belt on the northeast side of the system. This is a
    classic mid-latitude lee cyclogenesis setup with a strong jet
    coupling leading to broad large scale forcing and widespread precip
    across the Plains. Eastern side of the cyclone will exhibit the
    best convective potential while the deformation axis provides a
    solid precip field with moderate to locally heavy rates for several
    hrs. in that northwest side of the low. Totals >2" are forecast
    within the means across western NE into SD with scattered elevated
    QPF across the Missouri River basin located in eastern SD and NE.
    This setup is conducive for at least some isolated to scattered
    flash flood prospects considering the synoptic evolution. This was
    enough to warrant a MRGL risk in those areas deemed the best chance
    for heavy rain prospects.

    ...Southern High Plains...
    Maturing lee side low to the north will help drag a trailing cold
    front through the Central and Southern High Plains on Wednesday.
    The front will slip south and southwest once down near the latitude
    of the OK Panhandle, leading to a more textbook backdoor frontal
    progression as it enters into the northern TX Panhandle and
    northeast NM. Flow begins to run more parallel to the boundary in
    these zones when assessing forecast soundings from relevant global deterministic. The key in the setup is a relatively solid
    isentropic ascent pattern in a small zone bordering CO/OK/NM/TX
    with cross-section views over the area displaying a classic sloped
    low-level surface FGEN with strong omega correlating to rapid
    ascent as the front progresses through the area. Locally enhanced
    corridor of precip will transpire along and in wake of the front
    with local maxima of 1.5" to as much as 3" plausible during the
    event. This could be enough for an isolated flash flood threat,
    especially in those smaller urban areas situated across the 4 state intersection. A MRGL risk has been added to account for the
    threat.

    ...Southeast Florida...
    Stalled front with an enhanced moisture return across South FL
    will lead to a heightened threat for flash flooding over the urban
    centers of southeast FL. Deterministic output is scattered in the
    exact location of the heaviest precip, ranging from the Keys up to
    West Palm Beach and everywhere in- between. The setup is
    historically favorable for flash flood concerns over the urban
    zones of southeast FL with PWATs hovering between 2-2.3", a solid
    1/1.5 deviations above normal. In coordination with the Miami WFO,
    a MRGL was maintained for that urbanized coastal corridor between
    West Palm down to Miami proper since this is the most likely
    location for flash flooding in this type of setup. Will monitor
    convective trends as we get closer to see if this necessitates any
    expansion, or even a targeted upgrade.

    ...Mid-Atlantic States...
    Although no MRGL risk was added at this time, the coastal low
    plaguing NC/VA will continue to move slowly northward Wednesday,
    spreading moisture via onshore flow into VA/MD/DE. The
    probabilisticguidance suggests only a very low-end threat for 3"
    of rainfall, but admittedly the guidance did not really pick up on
    the current heavy rain signal for NC/VA until within 3 days either.
    After coordination with AKQ, no MRGL risk was added at this time,
    but with some history of "over-performing" rainfall upstream, it is
    possible a targeted MRGL risk may be needed with later issuances.

    Kleebauer/Weiss


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-e4wrxn9o8C764cDIHkGzkcRRTqEeDs81INR8FX3Gd93= QW4CpuyJPIuzOHVUHe7LwZxdFqJYw3KCQr1n8c52xiSQGQ4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-e4wrxn9o8C764cDIHkGzkcRRTqEeDs81INR8FX3Gd93= QW4CpuyJPIuzOHVUHe7LwZxdFqJYw3KCQr1n8c52obJEXRk$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-e4wrxn9o8C764cDIHkGzkcRRTqEeDs81INR8FX3Gd93= QW4CpuyJPIuzOHVUHe7LwZxdFqJYw3KCQr1n8c52dmidamc$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Sep 16 00:58:04 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 160057
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    857 PM EDT Mon Sep 15 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Tue Sep 16 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA AND SOUTHEASTERN VIRGINIA...

    ...Eastern North Carolina and Southeast Virginia...
    An increasingly hybrid cyclone, with recent persistent deep=20
    convection, lies offshore NC. While the convection is being sheared
    from the south, it has yet to fully decouple from the center and=20
    seems to be drifting a little father offshore rather than closer=20
    to the coast. Both the 18z HREF and 12z REFS have ~50% chance of=20
    5"+ across sections of eastern NC, but they are assuming a steady
    approach ashore which doesn't seem to be happening yet.

    Conceptual models with these sort of systems suggest that they=20
    remain convectively coupled and shift right of the model guidance=20
    for a time before the convection shears off and you ultimately end=20
    up with a comma head pattern which has low- to mid- level=20
    frontogenesis, which happened for a short period with Chantal when=20
    it came ashore over two months ago near the SC/NC border. Since the
    wet mesoscale guidance doesn't match recent radar/satellite=20
    imagery trends, held off on a Moderate Risk after coordination with
    MHX/Newport NC and AKQ/Wakefield VA forecast offices, but do think
    this is a higher end Slight Risk. Despite mostly marsh being=20
    impacted and the region being dry lately, the combination of
    available moisture and instability moving in from the Atlantic
    should allow for hourly amounts to 3" with local totals to 7" where
    any convective banding trains for a couple hours or so, which=20
    would overwhelm the limited urban areas that exist in east-central
    NC. Nudged the Slight Risk more northward to more fully encompass=20
    the VA Capes as that's where satellite imagery appears to suggest=20
    such a comma head would try to focus heavy rainfall overnight.


    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA AND VIRGINIA...

    ...Virginia and North Carolina...
    The surface low moving onshore NC from Monday will occlude and then
    begin to return to the east as the system vertically stacks beneath
    an upper low. Despite the slow filling and opening of the parent
    mid-level low, continued ascent through PVA (weak vorticity maxima
    rotating around the low) and periods of enhanced upper diffluence,
    especially north of the low, will result in sufficient ascent to
    maintain heavy rainfall, especially the first half of Tuesday.
    Although synoptic lift will gradually wane, continued impressive
    onshore fetch on 850mb winds of 25-35 kts (and above the mean wind
    by almost 1.5x) will continue to transport elevated PWs above 1.5
    inches onshore while producing additional ascent through
    confluence. This will result in persistent training of moderate
    rainfall with embedded convective elements leading to rainfall
    rates for which the HREF neighborhood probabilities indicate a
    30-40% chance of exceeding 1"/hr at times.

    Where these rain rates train most efficiently through anti-
    parallel Corfidi vectors, additional rainfall on D2 could reach an
    additional 2-4" with locally higher amounts, especially near the
    NC/VA border. This is also the area most likely to receive heavy
    rainfall on D1, so 48-hr rainfall could reach 5-8" with local 10"
    amounts possible. The REFS is a bit farther north than the HREF
    today, but is supported by the AIFS and the area of maximum upper
    divergence, so the MRGL risk was expanded a bit to the north, and a
    targeted SLGT risk was added where D2 rainfall most efficiently
    overlaps D1, leading to the enhanced flash flood risk. This was
    coordinated with the local WFOs.


    ...Southwest...
    A weak shortwave will emerge beneath the elongated mid-level ridge
    Tuesday evening, helping to enhance the otherwise typical diurnal
    convective activity across parts of AZ/NM. This weak impulse will
    impinge into increasingly favorable thermodynamics as low-level
    S/SE flow pushes PWs to 1-1.25 inches collocated with MUCAPE that
    will exceed 500 J/kg. This suggests a local maxima in convective
    coverage across southern AZ and into southern NM. Outside of any
    clusters that develop thanks to modest bulk shear as storms dive
    off the terrain later in the period, convection will slow moving on
    0-6km mean winds of just around 5-10 kts, leading to locally heavy
    rainfall capable of producing isolated flash flooding.


    ...Central High Plains...
    Amplifying trough across the Intermountain West will shed a
    shortwave into the Central Plains during the latter half of Tuesday
    into Tuesday night. This shortwave will impinge into a favorable
    airmass to spawn convection, reflected by PW forecasts of around
    1.25 inches overlapping MUCAPE exceeding 2000 J/kg. The primary
    longwave trough and the accompanying height falls/PVA combined with
    modest but intensifying upper diffluence will likely result in
    surface low developing in the lee of the Rockies, with a
    downstream warm front pushing into Nebraska serving as a convergent
    boundary for additional ascent. This warm front will waffle
    east/west in response to low-level jet energy pushing NW from
    OK/KS, resupplying the favorable thermodynamics to support
    convection.

    Thunderstorms that develop across this area will likely be heavy
    rain producers with 1-2"/hr rain rates supported by 30-40%
    probabilities from the HREF. Storms that develop will be supported
    as well by 24-40 kts of bulk shear to help organize convection into
    clusters, with some training along boundaries also expected. Where
    this rain is most pronounced, total rainfall could exceed 3 inches
    in a few locations, with the greatest potential focused near the
    KS/NE/CO juncture. Here, rainfall has been above normal the past 7
    days as well, compromising soils and creating FFG as low as
    2"/3hrs, so any additional heavy rain could cause runoff leading to
    instances of flash flooding. The threat still appears MRGL as
    inherited, but some cosmetic adjustments were made to refine the
    area based on new guidance.

    Weiss


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PARTS OF THE
    NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS, SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS, AND SOUTHEAST
    FLORIDA...

    20Z Update:
    Changes to the forecast ERO areas were minimal with this update.

    The MRGL risk across southeast Florida was maintained with little
    changes needed in response to good model agreement and trends in a
    surge of PWs lifting into the southern peninsula. With the previous
    discussion highlighting well the risk, and the coordination
    completed overnight with WFO MFL, only minor cosmetic adjustments
    were required.

    In the Northern Plains, the MRGL risk was expanded just slightly
    downstream of an amplifying trough axis digging out of the
    Intermountain West. However, the carving out of the Sand Hills was
    continued in response to the overall modest probabilities for
    exceedance of 3" QPF over higher FFG. The inherited MRGL risk was
    just expanded slightly to cover the highest axes of the new model
    QPF fields.

    Finally, in the Southern Plains, did make some modest southward
    adjustment to the inherited MRGL risk. The guidance has trended a
    bit faster/farther southwest with the trailing cold front and
    accompanying convection. This suggests that the heavier rainfall
    may occur atop drier soils with higher FFG, limiting the flash
    flood risk. There are still some low-end probabilities for heavy
    rain exceeding FFG, especially in the NW portion of the adjusted
    MRGL risk, so while the threat appears minimal, it was enough to
    continue the risk area at this time.

    Previous Discussions:

    ...Northern and Central Plains...
    A strong mid-level shortwave trough will eject into the WY Front
    Range and eventually close off across NE generating a maturing lee
    cyclone across the Central High Plains. The setup will likely cause
    quite a robust deformation signature on the northwest flank of the
    cyclone with ensemble mean QPF placement situated over western NE
    up through southwestern SD, arcing back into the nose of the warm-
    conveyor belt on the northeast side of the system. This is a
    classic mid-latitude lee cyclogenesis setup with a strong jet
    coupling leading to broad large scale forcing and widespread precip
    across the Plains. Eastern side of the cyclone will exhibit the
    best convective potential while the deformation axis provides a
    solid precip field with moderate to locally heavy rates for several
    hrs. in that northwest side of the low. Totals >2" are forecast
    within the means across western NE into SD with scattered elevated
    QPF across the Missouri River basin located in eastern SD and NE.
    This setup is conducive for at least some isolated to scattered
    flash flood prospects considering the synoptic evolution. This was
    enough to warrant a MRGL risk in those areas deemed the best chance
    for heavy rain prospects.

    ...Southern High Plains...
    Maturing lee side low to the north will help drag a trailing cold
    front through the Central and Southern High Plains on Wednesday.
    The front will slip south and southwest once down near the latitude
    of the OK Panhandle, leading to a more textbook backdoor frontal
    progression as it enters into the northern TX Panhandle and
    northeast NM. Flow begins to run more parallel to the boundary in
    these zones when assessing forecast soundings from relevant global deterministic. The key in the setup is a relatively solid
    isentropic ascent pattern in a small zone bordering CO/OK/NM/TX
    with cross-section views over the area displaying a classic sloped
    low-level surface FGEN with strong omega correlating to rapid
    ascent as the front progresses through the area. Locally enhanced
    corridor of precip will transpire along and in wake of the front
    with local maxima of 1.5" to as much as 3" plausible during the
    event. This could be enough for an isolated flash flood threat,
    especially in those smaller urban areas situated across the 4 state intersection. A MRGL risk has been added to account for the
    threat.

    ...Southeast Florida...
    Stalled front with an enhanced moisture return across South FL
    will lead to a heightened threat for flash flooding over the urban
    centers of southeast FL. Deterministic output is scattered in the
    exact location of the heaviest precip, ranging from the Keys up to
    West Palm Beach and everywhere in- between. The setup is
    historically favorable for flash flood concerns over the urban
    zones of southeast FL with PWATs hovering between 2-2.3", a solid
    1/1.5 deviations above normal. In coordination with the Miami WFO,
    a MRGL was maintained for that urbanized coastal corridor between
    West Palm down to Miami proper since this is the most likely
    location for flash flooding in this type of setup. Will monitor
    convective trends as we get closer to see if this necessitates any
    expansion, or even a targeted upgrade.

    ...Mid-Atlantic States...
    Although no MRGL risk was added at this time, the coastal low
    plaguing NC/VA will continue to move slowly northward Wednesday,
    spreading moisture via onshore flow into VA/MD/DE. The
    probabilistic guidance suggests only a very low-end threat for 3"
    of rainfall, but admittedly the guidance did not really pick up on
    the current heavy rain signal for NC/VA until within 3 days either.
    After coordination with AKQ, no MRGL risk was added at this time,
    but with some history of "over-performing" rainfall upstream, it is
    possible a targeted MRGL risk may be needed with later issuances.

    Kleebauer/Weiss


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    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7iieZwnrpeRqYyZObmFVx3FndEiUvKpyBzwiLLy_mm4u= SFSWFwPNVJCwsG9J6iayFlGVMhZioe9fUZbxE4xRH7Xon6Y$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7iieZwnrpeRqYyZObmFVx3FndEiUvKpyBzwiLLy_mm4u= SFSWFwPNVJCwsG9J6iayFlGVMhZioe9fUZbxE4xRTXAjJ-0$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 160808
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    408 AM EDT Tue Sep 16 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 16 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    NORTHEASTERN NORTH CAROLINA AND SOUTHEASTERN VIRGINIA...

    ...Northeastern North Carolina and Southeast Virginia...

    Well-defined surface reflection off the NC coast will continue to
    slowly move to the north over the course of the overnight and
    morning hours before parking off the VA Capes as the initial
    occlusion process takes shape. There's been a bit of a deviation
    in the overall precip pattern from what has been forecast over the
    past few forecast cycles, a lot of it driven from complex
    convective dynamics that thwarted the initial low-level moisture
    surge that was supposed to have already occurred according to older
    forecasts. The previous convective cluster has since dissipated,
    indicated via the rapidly warming cloud tops located just to the
    north of the surface low center. As a result, have finally seen
    bands of precip rotate inland with relatively modest rates as the
    instability pool remains parked just offshore when assessing the
    latest mesoanalysis. The trend is for a slow advection of
    increasingly favorable instability to penetrate inland with the
    alignment of the greatest forecast MUCAPE to be situated over far
    northeast NC into the VA Tidewater. This is the area of interest
    for the D1 when it comes to potential slow-moving convective
    elements within the smaller deformation axis transposed on the
    western flank of the cyclone. Some of the CAMs have been way too
    aggressive with this feature and has allowed the HREF probs fields
    to be heavily skewed into a more robust precip depiction compared
    to what is current ground truth.=20

    The HRRR/RAP combo has been handling the current evolution the best
    of any CAMs member, and has certainly been outperforming most
    global deterministic with the CMC the closest to what is occurring.
    Considering the variables and complexity of the forecast, there
    were some changes from the inherited SLGT risk across NC where the
    western extension being removed allowing only the northeastern
    corner of NC up into the VA Tidewater the only remaining locations
    within the SLGT. This is subject to change pending on the
    instability advection regime as rates will need to pick up in order
    to secure a significant flash flood threat with the Hampton
    Roads/VA Beach area the most prone to the risk due to urbanization
    factors. Anticipating 2-4" with perhaps up to 5" within the
    targeted SLGT risk as this remains the area with the best chance to
    see heavy rain longevity with less of a threat the further away
    from the coastal plain. Hourly rates maxed between 1-2"/hr are the
    most likely scenario at this juncture, putting mainly a small area
    of potential for flash flooding as sandier soils located outside
    the VA Tidewater are likely to negate widespread flash flood
    concerns. Considering how poorly the guidance is handling this=20
    setup, near term monitoring will be employed over the course of the
    period with the best threat likely occurring between 12-00z,=20
    waning quickly in the evening as the low becomes vertically stacked
    and favors a rapid occlusion leading to a degrading heavy precip=20
    threat.=20

    ...Southwest...

    Scattered convective pattern will initiate later this afternoon=20
    and the early evening hours before fading with the loss of diurnal
    heating. Current progs are for convection to be tied closer to the
    terrain across southeast AZ into southern NM with isolated=20
    signatures of >1"/hr plausible in the stronger cell cores. These=20
    areas generally prone to runoff due to terrain complexities, as=20
    well as remnant burn scars present in some locations. There was
    very little change from the inherited MRGL risk with the forecast
    running close to general continuity.=20

    ...Central High Plains...

    Strong shortwave trough ejection out of the interior Northwest will
    lead to convective development and regional enhancement across the
    Central High Plains. Greatest ascent is aligned with the diffluent
    region of the mid-level shortwave with left-exit region dynamics
    likely to maintain a prevalent heavy rain signature across the
    western third of NE down into neighboring northeast CO and
    northwest KS. Guidance has come into alignment with the axis of
    heaviest precip centered near and just north of North Platte, NE
    with the corridor extending south into southwestern NE and
    northwest KS by the second half of the forecast period. 00z HREF
    neighborhood probs for >3" are running between 20-40% across the
    referenced area near North Platte and points south. This still
    aligns well with the previous forecast MRGL risk leading to little
    deviation in the current thinking. The areas of highest risk will
    likely be smaller towns and urbanized areas, like North Platte that
    are more susceptible to runoff.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PARTS OF THE
    NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS, SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS, AND SOUTHEAST
    FLORIDA...

    ...Northern and Central Plains...

    A strong mid-level shortwave trough will eject into the WY Front
    Range and eventually close off across NE generating a maturing lee
    cyclone across the Central High Plains. The setup will likely cause
    quite a robust deformation signature on the northwest flank of the
    cyclone with ensemble mean QPF placement situated over western NE
    up through western SD into southern ND, arcing back into the nose=20
    of the warm- conveyor belt (WCB) on the northeast side of the=20
    system. This is a classic mid- latitude lee cyclogenesis setup with
    a strong jet coupling leading to broad large scale forcing and=20
    widespread precip across the Plains. Eastern side of the cyclone=20
    will exhibit the best convective potential given the modest theta_E
    advection pattern poleward within the WCB leading to scattered
    thunderstorm potential from the Southern Plains to as far north as
    the Northern Plains and adjacent Upper Midwest (Western MN).
    Meanwhile, the deformation axis across NE/SD/ND will provide a=20
    solid precip field with moderate to locally heavy rates for several
    hrs. located in that northwest side of the low. Totals >2" are=20
    forecast within the means across western NE into the Dakotas with=20
    scattered elevated QPF across the Missouri River basin located in=20
    eastern SD and NE down through KS and far western OK. This setup=20
    is conducive for at least some isolated to scattered flash flood=20
    prospects considering the broad synoptic scale evolution. A very
    broad MRGL exists across much of the Northern and Central Plains
    with a cull located over NE and northwest KS where the low center
    will be present and drier air entrains into the region Wednesday
    evening and beyond as the low intensifies and approaches occlusion
    phase by Thursday AM.=20

    ...Southern High Plains...

    Very little change in the previous forecast as run to run
    continuity has allowed for negligible adjustments within the
    previous MRGL risk.

    A maturing lee side low to the north will help drag a trailing=20
    cold front through the Central and Southern High Plains on=20
    Wednesday. The front will slip south and southwest once down near=20
    the latitude of the OK Panhandle, leading to a more textbook=20
    backdoor frontal progression as it enters into the northern TX=20
    Panhandle and northeast NM. Flow begins to run more parallel to the
    boundary in these zones when assessing forecast soundings from=20
    relevant global deterministic. The key in the setup is a relatively
    solid isentropic ascent pattern in a small zone bordering=20
    CO/OK/NM/TX with cross-section views over the area displaying a=20
    classic sloped low-level surface FGEN with strong omega correlating
    to rapid ascent as the front progresses through the area. Locally=20
    enhanced corridor of precip will transpire along and in wake of the
    front with local maxima of 1.5" to as much as 3" plausible during=20
    the event. This could be enough for an isolated flash flood threat,
    especially in those smaller urban areas situated across the four=20
    state intersection.=20

    ...Southwest...

    Another period of isolated to scattered convection is anticipated
    over the terrain encompassing southern AZ up through the central
    and eastern portions of NM with the primary threat being heavy=20
    rainfall situated over more complex terrain and burn scar remnants.
    Assessment of forecast soundings and hodographs indicate relatively
    slower cell motions, a classic characteristic for flash flood
    prospects over the desert southwest. Guidance reflects local 1-2"
    totals scattered across the region extending from southeast AZ into
    NM with some of the better signals focused within those mountain
    ranges like the Huachucas and Sacramento's. This signal garnered
    enough attention to warrant an addition of a MRGL to account for
    the localized threat.=20

    ...Southeast Florida...

    Stalled front with an enhanced moisture return across South FL
    will lead to a heightened threat for flash flooding over the urban
    centers of southeast FL. The setup is historically favorable for=20
    flash flood concerns over the urban zones of southeast FL with=20
    PWATs hovering between 2-2.3", a solid 1/1.5 deviations above=20
    normal. CAMs guidance has recently come into range for at least the
    first half of the period with a mixture of results ranging from
    very little precip to multiple heavy convective cores impacting the
    zone between PBI down to MFL. Neighborhood probs for >2" are pretty
    high (>60%) across a large chunk of that above corridor, but
    there's still a precipitous drop off in the probs for >3" with a
    very low EAS signal accompanying. At this juncture, the prospects
    for heavy rainfall seem to be more isolated in nature, but the
    environment is leaning favorable for any cells to potentially drop
    appreciable amounts of rain in a short period of time. The heaviest
    rainfall totals among guidance seem relegated to the FL Keys, an
    area that historically is difficult for flash flood prospects just
    due to the sandier soils and much smaller land footprint available.
    The previous MRGL risk was relatively maintained given the setup
    and the chance for the signal to grow, but for now remains more
    within the lower end of the risk threshold.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS, MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY, SOUTHWEST U.S.,
    AND SOUTHEAST FLORIDA...

    ...Central U.S...

    Broad, occluding cyclone over the center of the CONUS will lead to
    a continuation of scattered convection on the eastern flank of the
    disturbance with a continued axis of deformation over parts of the
    Dakotas. Flash flood potential will be relatively modest
    considering the cyclone undergoing a deteriorating phase by the D3
    juncture. Ensemble means are generally between 0.5-1" within the
    convective zone in the decaying warm-conveyor belt (WCB) with 1-2"
    located within the axis of deformation. The best flash flood risks
    will likely coincide in the convective elements just due to the
    nature of enhanced rates, so overall we're looking at a mid-grade
    MRGL risk for the period, but will assess if there needs to be any
    targeted upgrades as we get closer to the period. For now, the
    broad MRGL inherited will suffice.=20

    ...Southwest...

    Moisture advection from the northeast edge of tropical cyclone
    Mario off the California Baja will make its presence known across
    Southern CA into adjacent NV/AZ by Thursday morning leading to an
    increasing threat of scattered to widespread convective initiation
    during peak diurnal instability. As PWATs surge to 2-3 deviations
    above normal by Thursday afternoon and beyond across SoCal, the
    environment will be conducive for several convective cores to
    produce fairly heavy rainfall potential, especially over the
    terrain focused from Big Sur, south into the Transverse and
    Peninsular Ranges. The threat for thunderstorms will exist over the
    SoCal deserts, an area very prone to flash flooding due to the high
    runoff capabilities and multitude of dry arroyos littered across
    the region. The northern periphery will likely make its presence
    into southern NV, another area prone to flash flooding due to
    similar issues and added complex topography scattered about the
    area. Totals of 1+" will be common with a likelihood of a few 2+"
    totals considering the environment likely in place. A MRGL risk is
    currently forecast, but would not be surprised to see an upgrade in
    future forecasts, especially over portions of SoCal.=20

    ...Southeast Florida...

    A rinse and repeat setup carrying over from D2 will lead to a
    continued threat of heavy convection across much of South Florida.
    Frontal alignment still indicates a scattered to widespread
    convective posture across southeast FL where the urban corridor
    will be under threat for more heavy rainfall and flash flood
    prospects. The greatest threat will lie within that zone from
    Melbourne down to Miami with some of the ensemble means greatest
    near West Palm Beach and Port St. Lucie. A MRGL risk exists once
    again for the defined area above between MLB to MFL.=20

    Kleebauer


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    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!62lsaMb2jn477nXXFDhHv6LdvS8KdSVLkOSKdg-EKM7j= TrYdguc_pbNw9t9tXG0iCe7GmAXqUmCiZSm0901fbNa9w48$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!62lsaMb2jn477nXXFDhHv6LdvS8KdSVLkOSKdg-EKM7j= TrYdguc_pbNw9t9tXG0iCe7GmAXqUmCiZSm0901f2lz9TVw$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Sep 16 16:07:53 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 161607
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1207 PM EDT Tue Sep 16 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Sep 16 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    NORTHEASTERN NORTH CAROLINA AND SOUTHEASTERN VIRGINIA...

    ...16z update...

    The marginal and slight risk areas were shifted north slightly over
    portions of the Virginia Tidewater and northeastern North Carolina
    based on model trends. A small marginal risk area was introduced,
    in coordination with the local Billings office, over portions of
    Yellowstone and the Absaroka Range below 10,000 feet where easterly moisture advection into the terrain could generate upslope enhanced
    precipitation over vulnerable soils. PWATs between 0.5-1 inch, low
    flash Flood guidance and HREF 24hr 1-3 inch exceedance=20
    probabilities over 5% support some kind of isolated flash
    potential.

    Kebede

    ...Northeastern North Carolina and Southeast Virginia...

    Well-defined surface reflection off the NC coast will continue to
    slowly move to the north over the course of the overnight and
    morning hours before parking off the VA Capes as the initial
    occlusion process takes shape. There's been a bit of a deviation
    in the overall precip pattern from what has been forecast over the
    past few forecast cycles, a lot of it driven from complex
    convective dynamics that thwarted the initial low-level moisture
    surge that was supposed to have already occurred according to older
    forecasts. The previous convective cluster has since dissipated,
    indicated via the rapidly warming cloud tops located just to the
    north of the surface low center. As a result, have finally seen
    bands of precip rotate inland with relatively modest rates as the
    instability pool remains parked just offshore when assessing the
    latest mesoanalysis. The trend is for a slow advection of
    increasingly favorable instability to penetrate inland with the
    alignment of the greatest forecast MUCAPE to be situated over far
    northeast NC into the VA Tidewater. This is the area of interest
    for the D1 when it comes to potential slow-moving convective
    elements within the smaller deformation axis transposed on the
    western flank of the cyclone. Some of the CAMs have been way too
    aggressive with this feature and has allowed the HREF probs fields
    to be heavily skewed into a more robust precip depiction compared
    to what is current ground truth.

    The HRRR/RAP combo has been handling the current evolution the best
    of any CAMs member, and has certainly been outperforming most
    global deterministic with the CMC the closest to what is occurring.
    Considering the variables and complexity of the forecast, there
    were some changes from the inherited SLGT risk across NC where the
    western extension being removed allowing only the northeastern
    corner of NC up into the VA Tidewater the only remaining locations
    within the SLGT. This is subject to change pending on the
    instability advection regime as rates will need to pick up in order
    to secure a significant flash flood threat with the Hampton
    Roads/VA Beach area the most prone to the risk due to urbanization
    factors. Anticipating 2-4" with perhaps up to 5" within the
    targeted SLGT risk as this remains the area with the best chance to
    see heavy rain longevity with less of a threat the further away
    from the coastal plain. Hourly rates maxed between 1-2"/hr are the
    most likely scenario at this juncture, putting mainly a small area
    of potential for flash flooding as sandier soils located outside
    the VA Tidewater are likely to negate widespread flash flood
    concerns. Considering how poorly the guidance is handling this
    setup, near term monitoring will be employed over the course of the
    period with the best threat likely occurring between 12-00z,
    waning quickly in the evening as the low becomes vertically stacked
    and favors a rapid occlusion leading to a degrading heavy precip
    threat.

    ...Southwest...

    Scattered convective pattern will initiate later this afternoon
    and the early evening hours before fading with the loss of diurnal
    heating. Current progs are for convection to be tied closer to the
    terrain across southeast AZ into southern NM with isolated
    signatures of >1"/hr plausible in the stronger cell cores. These
    areas generally prone to runoff due to terrain complexities, as
    well as remnant burn scars present in some locations. There was
    very little change from the inherited MRGL risk with the forecast
    running close to general continuity.

    ...Central High Plains...

    Strong shortwave trough ejection out of the interior Northwest will
    lead to convective development and regional enhancement across the
    Central High Plains. Greatest ascent is aligned with the diffluent
    region of the mid-level shortwave with left-exit region dynamics
    likely to maintain a prevalent heavy rain signature across the
    western third of NE down into neighboring northeast CO and
    northwest KS. Guidance has come into alignment with the axis of
    heaviest precip centered near and just north of North Platte, NE
    with the corridor extending south into southwestern NE and
    northwest KS by the second half of the forecast period. 00z HREF
    neighborhood probs for >3" are running between 20-40% across the
    referenced area near North Platte and points south. This still
    aligns well with the previous forecast MRGL risk leading to little
    deviation in the current thinking. The areas of highest risk will
    likely be smaller towns and urbanized areas, like North Platte that
    are more susceptible to runoff.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PARTS OF THE
    NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS, SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS, AND SOUTHEAST
    FLORIDA...

    ...Northern and Central Plains...

    A strong mid-level shortwave trough will eject into the WY Front
    Range and eventually close off across NE generating a maturing lee
    cyclone across the Central High Plains. The setup will likely cause
    quite a robust deformation signature on the northwest flank of the
    cyclone with ensemble mean QPF placement situated over western NE
    up through western SD into southern ND, arcing back into the nose
    of the warm- conveyor belt (WCB) on the northeast side of the
    system. This is a classic mid- latitude lee cyclogenesis setup with
    a strong jet coupling leading to broad large scale forcing and
    widespread precip across the Plains. Eastern side of the cyclone
    will exhibit the best convective potential given the modest theta_E
    advection pattern poleward within the WCB leading to scattered
    thunderstorm potential from the Southern Plains to as far north as
    the Northern Plains and adjacent Upper Midwest (Western MN).
    Meanwhile, the deformation axis across NE/SD/ND will provide a
    solid precip field with moderate to locally heavy rates for several
    hrs. located in that northwest side of the low. Totals >2" are
    forecast within the means across western NE into the Dakotas with
    scattered elevated QPF across the Missouri River basin located in
    eastern SD and NE down through KS and far western OK. This setup
    is conducive for at least some isolated to scattered flash flood
    prospects considering the broad synoptic scale evolution. A very
    broad MRGL exists across much of the Northern and Central Plains
    with a cull located over NE and northwest KS where the low center
    will be present and drier air entrains into the region Wednesday
    evening and beyond as the low intensifies and approaches occlusion
    phase by Thursday AM.

    ...Southern High Plains...

    Very little change in the previous forecast as run to run
    continuity has allowed for negligible adjustments within the
    previous MRGL risk.

    A maturing lee side low to the north will help drag a trailing
    cold front through the Central and Southern High Plains on
    Wednesday. The front will slip south and southwest once down near
    the latitude of the OK Panhandle, leading to a more textbook
    backdoor frontal progression as it enters into the northern TX
    Panhandle and northeast NM. Flow begins to run more parallel to the
    boundary in these zones when assessing forecast soundings from
    relevant global deterministic. The key in the setup is a relatively
    solid isentropic ascent pattern in a small zone bordering
    CO/OK/NM/TX with cross-section views over the area displaying a
    classic sloped low-level surface FGEN with strong omega correlating
    to rapid ascent as the front progresses through the area. Locally
    enhanced corridor of precip will transpire along and in wake of the
    front with local maxima of 1.5" to as much as 3" plausible during
    the event. This could be enough for an isolated flash flood threat,
    especially in those smaller urban areas situated across the four
    state intersection.

    ...Southwest...

    Another period of isolated to scattered convection is anticipated
    over the terrain encompassing southern AZ up through the central
    and eastern portions of NM with the primary threat being heavy
    rainfall situated over more complex terrain and burn scar remnants.
    Assessment of forecast soundings and hodographs indicate relatively
    slower cell motions, a classic characteristic for flash flood
    prospects over the desert southwest. Guidance reflects local 1-2"
    totals scattered across the region extending from southeast AZ into
    NM with some of the better signals focused within those mountain
    ranges like the Huachucas and Sacramento's. This signal garnered
    enough attention to warrant an addition of a MRGL to account for
    the localized threat.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    Stalled front with an enhanced moisture return across South FL
    will lead to a heightened threat for flash flooding over the urban
    centers of southeast FL. The setup is historically favorable for
    flash flood concerns over the urban zones of southeast FL with
    PWATs hovering between 2-2.3", a solid 1/1.5 deviations above
    normal. CAMs guidance has recently come into range for at least the
    first half of the period with a mixture of results ranging from
    very little precip to multiple heavy convective cores impacting the
    zone between PBI down to MFL. Neighborhood probs for >2" are pretty
    high (>60%) across a large chunk of that above corridor, but
    there's still a precipitous drop off in the probs for >3" with a
    very low EAS signal accompanying. At this juncture, the prospects
    for heavy rainfall seem to be more isolated in nature, but the
    environment is leaning favorable for any cells to potentially drop
    appreciable amounts of rain in a short period of time. The heaviest
    rainfall totals among guidance seem relegated to the FL Keys, an
    area that historically is difficult for flash flood prospects just
    due to the sandier soils and much smaller land footprint available.
    The previous MRGL risk was relatively maintained given the setup
    and the chance for the signal to grow, but for now remains more
    within the lower end of the risk threshold.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS, MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY, SOUTHWEST U.S.,
    AND SOUTHEAST FLORIDA...

    ...Central U.S...

    Broad, occluding cyclone over the center of the CONUS will lead to
    a continuation of scattered convection on the eastern flank of the
    disturbance with a continued axis of deformation over parts of the
    Dakotas. Flash flood potential will be relatively modest
    considering the cyclone undergoing a deteriorating phase by the D3
    juncture. Ensemble means are generally between 0.5-1" within the
    convective zone in the decaying warm-conveyor belt (WCB) with 1-2"
    located within the axis of deformation. The best flash flood risks
    will likely coincide in the convective elements just due to the
    nature of enhanced rates, so overall we're looking at a mid-grade
    MRGL risk for the period, but will assess if there needs to be any
    targeted upgrades as we get closer to the period. For now, the
    broad MRGL inherited will suffice.

    ...Southwest...

    Moisture advection from the northeast edge of tropical cyclone
    Mario off the California Baja will make its presence known across
    Southern CA into adjacent NV/AZ by Thursday morning leading to an
    increasing threat of scattered to widespread convective initiation
    during peak diurnal instability. As PWATs surge to 2-3 deviations
    above normal by Thursday afternoon and beyond across SoCal, the
    environment will be conducive for several convective cores to
    produce fairly heavy rainfall potential, especially over the
    terrain focused from Big Sur, south into the Transverse and
    Peninsular Ranges. The threat for thunderstorms will exist over the
    SoCal deserts, an area very prone to flash flooding due to the high
    runoff capabilities and multitude of dry arroyos littered across
    the region. The northern periphery will likely make its presence
    into southern NV, another area prone to flash flooding due to
    similar issues and added complex topography scattered about the
    area. Totals of 1+" will be common with a likelihood of a few 2+"
    totals considering the environment likely in place. A MRGL risk is
    currently forecast, but would not be surprised to see an upgrade in
    future forecasts, especially over portions of SoCal.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    A rinse and repeat setup carrying over from D2 will lead to a
    continued threat of heavy convection across much of South Florida.
    Frontal alignment still indicates a scattered to widespread
    convective posture across southeast FL where the urban corridor
    will be under threat for more heavy rainfall and flash flood
    prospects. The greatest threat will lie within that zone from
    Melbourne down to Miami with some of the ensemble means greatest
    near West Palm Beach and Port St. Lucie. A MRGL risk exists once
    again for the defined area above between MLB to MFL.

    Kleebauer


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    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7mvzW1drqJgHtSYJKcQF8CQvc1NBS48VAU76BRZWWqUY= C2xrPAaOqEKzaJ3bU5UUindQRv96TeLLwDJJNRNoZpXtECo$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7mvzW1drqJgHtSYJKcQF8CQvc1NBS48VAU76BRZWWqUY= C2xrPAaOqEKzaJ3bU5UUindQRv96TeLLwDJJNRNo-IdKOjA$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 162018
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    418 PM EDT Tue Sep 16 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Sep 16 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    NORTHEASTERN NORTH CAROLINA AND SOUTHEASTERN VIRGINIA...

    ...16z update...

    The marginal and slight risk areas were shifted north slightly over
    portions of the Virginia Tidewater and northeastern North Carolina
    based on model trends. A small marginal risk area was introduced,
    in coordination with the local Billings office, over portions of
    Yellowstone and the Absaroka Range below 10,000 feet where easterly moisture advection into the terrain could generate upslope enhanced
    precipitation over vulnerable soils. PWATs between 0.5-1 inch, low
    flash Flood guidance and HREF 24hr 1-3 inch exceedance
    probabilities over 5% support some kind of isolated flash
    potential.

    Kebede

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Northeastern North Carolina and Southeast Virginia...

    Well-defined surface reflection off the NC coast will continue to
    slowly move to the north over the course of the overnight and
    morning hours before parking off the VA Capes as the initial
    occlusion process takes shape. There's been a bit of a deviation
    in the overall precip pattern from what has been forecast over the
    past few forecast cycles, a lot of it driven from complex
    convective dynamics that thwarted the initial low-level moisture
    surge that was supposed to have already occurred according to older
    forecasts. The previous convective cluster has since dissipated,
    indicated via the rapidly warming cloud tops located just to the
    north of the surface low center. As a result, have finally seen
    bands of precip rotate inland with relatively modest rates as the
    instability pool remains parked just offshore when assessing the
    latest mesoanalysis. The trend is for a slow advection of
    increasingly favorable instability to penetrate inland with the
    alignment of the greatest forecast MUCAPE to be situated over far
    northeast NC into the VA Tidewater. This is the area of interest
    for the D1 when it comes to potential slow-moving convective
    elements within the smaller deformation axis transposed on the
    western flank of the cyclone. Some of the CAMs have been way too
    aggressive with this feature and has allowed the HREF probs fields
    to be heavily skewed into a more robust precip depiction compared
    to what is current ground truth.

    The HRRR/RAP combo has been handling the current evolution the best
    of any CAMs member, and has certainly been outperforming most
    global deterministic with the CMC the closest to what is occurring.
    Considering the variables and complexity of the forecast, there
    were some changes from the inherited SLGT risk across NC where the
    western extension being removed allowing only the northeastern
    corner of NC up into the VA Tidewater the only remaining locations
    within the SLGT. This is subject to change pending on the
    instability advection regime as rates will need to pick up in order
    to secure a significant flash flood threat with the Hampton
    Roads/VA Beach area the most prone to the risk due to urbanization
    factors. Anticipating 2-4" with perhaps up to 5" within the
    targeted SLGT risk as this remains the area with the best chance to
    see heavy rain longevity with less of a threat the further away
    from the coastal plain. Hourly rates maxed between 1-2"/hr are the
    most likely scenario at this juncture, putting mainly a small area
    of potential for flash flooding as sandier soils located outside
    the VA Tidewater are likely to negate widespread flash flood
    concerns. Considering how poorly the guidance is handling this
    setup, near term monitoring will be employed over the course of the
    period with the best threat likely occurring between 12-00z,
    waning quickly in the evening as the low becomes vertically stacked
    and favors a rapid occlusion leading to a degrading heavy precip
    threat.

    ...Southwest...

    Scattered convective pattern will initiate later this afternoon
    and the early evening hours before fading with the loss of diurnal
    heating. Current progs are for convection to be tied closer to the
    terrain across southeast AZ into southern NM with isolated
    signatures of >1"/hr plausible in the stronger cell cores. These
    areas generally prone to runoff due to terrain complexities, as
    well as remnant burn scars present in some locations. There was
    very little change from the inherited MRGL risk with the forecast
    running close to general continuity.

    ...Central High Plains...

    Strong shortwave trough ejection out of the interior Northwest will
    lead to convective development and regional enhancement across the
    Central High Plains. Greatest ascent is aligned with the diffluent
    region of the mid-level shortwave with left-exit region dynamics
    likely to maintain a prevalent heavy rain signature across the
    western third of NE down into neighboring northeast CO and
    northwest KS. Guidance has come into alignment with the axis of
    heaviest precip centered near and just north of North Platte, NE
    with the corridor extending south into southwestern NE and
    northwest KS by the second half of the forecast period. 00z HREF
    neighborhood probs for >3" are running between 20-40% across the
    referenced area near North Platte and points south. This still
    aligns well with the previous forecast MRGL risk leading to little
    deviation in the current thinking. The areas of highest risk will
    likely be smaller towns and urbanized areas, like North Platte that
    are more susceptible to runoff.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PARTS OF THE=20
    NORTHERN PLAINS...

    ...2030z update...

    A slight risk was introduced over portions of western South Dakota
    based on increasing qpf trends and better agreement on location of
    deformation axis. FFGs are relatively low (0.75-2") over parts of
    west and northwestern South Dakota with ongoing rainfall likely to
    bring those values down by Wednesday.

    A marginal risk was introduced over much of the Mid-Atlantic
    coastal area due to recent qpf trends. Deterministic guidance have
    increased qpf over an area extending from the Virginia Tidewater up
    to Long Island New York where a plume of subtropical moisture is
    likely to continue interacting with a slow moving surface front
    propagating northward along the coast.

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Northern and Central Plains...

    A strong mid-level shortwave trough will eject into the WY Front
    Range and eventually close off across NE generating a maturing lee
    cyclone across the Central High Plains. The setup will likely cause
    quite a robust deformation signature on the northwest flank of the
    cyclone with ensemble mean QPF placement situated over western NE
    up through western SD into southern ND, arcing back into the nose
    of the warm- conveyor belt (WCB) on the northeast side of the
    system. This is a classic mid- latitude lee cyclogenesis setup with
    a strong jet coupling leading to broad large scale forcing and
    widespread precip across the Plains. Eastern side of the cyclone
    will exhibit the best convective potential given the modest theta_E
    advection pattern poleward within the WCB leading to scattered
    thunderstorm potential from the Southern Plains to as far north as
    the Northern Plains and adjacent Upper Midwest (Western MN).
    Meanwhile, the deformation axis across NE/SD/ND will provide a
    solid precip field with moderate to locally heavy rates for several
    hrs. located in that northwest side of the low. Totals >2" are
    forecast within the means across western NE into the Dakotas with
    scattered elevated QPF across the Missouri River basin located in
    eastern SD and NE down through KS and far western OK. This setup
    is conducive for at least some isolated to scattered flash flood
    prospects considering the broad synoptic scale evolution. A very
    broad MRGL exists across much of the Northern and Central Plains
    with a cull located over NE and northwest KS where the low center
    will be present and drier air entrains into the region Wednesday
    evening and beyond as the low intensifies and approaches occlusion
    phase by Thursday AM.

    ...Southern High Plains...

    Very little change in the previous forecast as run to run
    continuity has allowed for negligible adjustments within the
    previous MRGL risk.

    A maturing lee side low to the north will help drag a trailing
    cold front through the Central and Southern High Plains on
    Wednesday. The front will slip south and southwest once down near
    the latitude of the OK Panhandle, leading to a more textbook
    backdoor frontal progression as it enters into the northern TX
    Panhandle and northeast NM. Flow begins to run more parallel to the
    boundary in these zones when assessing forecast soundings from
    relevant global deterministic. The key in the setup is a relatively
    solid isentropic ascent pattern in a small zone bordering
    CO/OK/NM/TX with cross-section views over the area displaying a
    classic sloped low-level surface FGEN with strong omega correlating
    to rapid ascent as the front progresses through the area. Locally
    enhanced corridor of precip will transpire along and in wake of the
    front with local maxima of 1.5" to as much as 3" plausible during
    the event. This could be enough for an isolated flash flood threat,
    especially in those smaller urban areas situated across the four
    state intersection.

    ...Southwest...

    Another period of isolated to scattered convection is anticipated
    over the terrain encompassing southern AZ up through the central
    and eastern portions of NM with the primary threat being heavy
    rainfall situated over more complex terrain and burn scar remnants.
    Assessment of forecast soundings and hodographs indicate relatively
    slower cell motions, a classic characteristic for flash flood
    prospects over the desert southwest. Guidance reflects local 1-2"
    totals scattered across the region extending from southeast AZ into
    NM with some of the better signals focused within those mountain
    ranges like the Huachucas and Sacramento's. This signal garnered
    enough attention to warrant an addition of a MRGL to account for
    the localized threat.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    Stalled front with an enhanced moisture return across South FL
    will lead to a heightened threat for flash flooding over the urban
    centers of southeast FL. The setup is historically favorable for
    flash flood concerns over the urban zones of southeast FL with
    PWATs hovering between 2-2.3", a solid 1/1.5 deviations above
    normal. CAMs guidance has recently come into range for at least the
    first half of the period with a mixture of results ranging from
    very little precip to multiple heavy convective cores impacting the
    zone between PBI down to MFL. Neighborhood probs for >2" are pretty
    high (>60%) across a large chunk of that above corridor, but
    there's still a precipitous drop off in the probs for >3" with a
    very low EAS signal accompanying. At this juncture, the prospects
    for heavy rainfall seem to be more isolated in nature, but the
    environment is leaning favorable for any cells to potentially drop
    appreciable amounts of rain in a short period of time. The heaviest
    rainfall totals among guidance seem relegated to the FL Keys, an
    area that historically is difficult for flash flood prospects just
    due to the sandier soils and much smaller land footprint available.
    The previous MRGL risk was relatively maintained given the setup
    and the chance for the signal to grow, but for now remains more
    within the lower end of the risk threshold.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS, MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY, SOUTHWEST U.S.,
    AND SOUTHEAST FLORIDA...

    ...2030z update...

    The marginal risk in the Southwest expanded across southern=20
    Arizona and into far southwestern New Mexico, due to an increased
    signal for convection. The marginal over the Plains was also
    expanded a bit into the Texas/Oklahoma panhandle area. There's=20
    uncertainty on where the maximum qpf axis will set up over the=20
    Northern Plains on Thursday. No changes were made to the southeast
    Florida marginal.

    Kebede=20

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central U.S...

    Broad, occluding cyclone over the center of the CONUS will lead to
    a continuation of scattered convection on the eastern flank of the
    disturbance with a continued axis of deformation over parts of the
    Dakotas. Flash flood potential will be relatively modest
    considering the cyclone undergoing a deteriorating phase by the D3
    juncture. Ensemble means are generally between 0.5-1" within the
    convective zone in the decaying warm-conveyor belt (WCB) with 1-2"
    located within the axis of deformation. The best flash flood risks
    will likely coincide in the convective elements just due to the
    nature of enhanced rates, so overall we're looking at a mid-grade
    MRGL risk for the period, but will assess if there needs to be any
    targeted upgrades as we get closer to the period. For now, the
    broad MRGL inherited will suffice.

    ...Southwest...

    Moisture advection from the northeast edge of tropical cyclone
    Mario off the California Baja will make its presence known across
    Southern CA into adjacent NV/AZ by Thursday morning leading to an
    increasing threat of scattered to widespread convective initiation
    during peak diurnal instability. As PWATs surge to 2-3 deviations
    above normal by Thursday afternoon and beyond across SoCal, the
    environment will be conducive for several convective cores to
    produce fairly heavy rainfall potential, especially over the
    terrain focused from Big Sur, south into the Transverse and
    Peninsular Ranges. The threat for thunderstorms will exist over the
    SoCal deserts, an area very prone to flash flooding due to the high
    runoff capabilities and multitude of dry arroyos littered across
    the region. The northern periphery will likely make its presence
    into southern NV, another area prone to flash flooding due to
    similar issues and added complex topography scattered about the
    area. Totals of 1+" will be common with a likelihood of a few 2+"
    totals considering the environment likely in place. A MRGL risk is
    currently forecast, but would not be surprised to see an upgrade in
    future forecasts, especially over portions of SoCal.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    A rinse and repeat setup carrying over from D2 will lead to a
    continued threat of heavy convection across much of South Florida.
    Frontal alignment still indicates a scattered to widespread
    convective posture across southeast FL where the urban corridor
    will be under threat for more heavy rainfall and flash flood
    prospects. The greatest threat will lie within that zone from
    Melbourne down to Miami with some of the ensemble means greatest
    near West Palm Beach and Port St. Lucie. A MRGL risk exists once
    again for the defined area above between MLB to MFL.

    Kleebauer


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    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-IioM-X7PvyGJWw1N_rCFluNt5MvY9C75cDJUr-TRa1F= TTC6em3aJo6kqE4jHKvixAuQx6EfIK37g3yA1deSm-6ev7E$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 170059
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    859 PM EDT Tue Sep 16 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Wed Sep 17 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    SOUTHEASTERN VIRGINIA ALONG WITH SOUTHERN NEBRASKA INTO FAR
    NORTHWEST KANSAS...

    ...Mid Atlantic...

    ...01Z Update...
    Very little change to the Slight and Marginal areas based on the
    latest observational trends, mesoanalysis, recent HRRR runs, and
    HREF/RRFS rainfall exceedance probabilities. We were able to nudge
    the southern boundary of the Slight Risk area to the NC-VA border,
    while also pulling the Marginal Risk north as well to far northeast
    NC. This given the sharp drying (TPW gradient) south of the main
    precipitation shield.=20

    Hurley

    ...16Z Update...
    The marginal and slight risk areas were shifted north slightly=20
    over portions of the Virginia Tidewater and northeastern North=20
    Carolina based on model trends. A small marginal risk area was=20
    introduced, in coordination with the local Billings office, over=20
    portions of Yellowstone and the Absaroka Range below 10,000 feet=20
    where easterly moisture advection into the terrain could generate=20
    upslope enhanced precipitation over vulnerable soils. PWATs between
    0.5-1 inch, low flash Flood guidance and HREF 24hr 1-3 inch=20
    exceedance probabilities over 5% support some kind of isolated=20
    flash potential.

    Kebede

    ...Southwest...

    Scattered convective pattern will initiate later this afternoon
    and the early evening hours before fading with the loss of diurnal
    heating. Current progs are for convection to be tied closer to the
    terrain across southeast AZ into southern NM with isolated
    signatures of >1"/hr plausible in the stronger cell cores. These
    areas generally prone to runoff due to terrain complexities, as
    well as remnant burn scars present in some locations. There was
    very little change from the inherited MRGL risk with the forecast
    running close to general continuity.

    ...Central High Plains...

    ...01Z Update...
    Based on the latest trends with the observations (radar/satellite), mesoanalysis (strong deep-layer CAPE and low-level moisture
    transport), along with the most recent HRRR runs and HREF/RRFS
    rainfall exceedance probabilities, have included a targeted Slight
    Risk area across parts of southwest to central NE. Based on these
    recent trends, expect the highest risk to persist until 03-05Z.

    Hurley=20

    Previous discussion...

    Strong shortwave trough ejection out of the interior Northwest=20
    will lead to convective development and regional enhancement across
    the Central High Plains. Greatest ascent is aligned with the=20
    diffluent region of the mid-level shortwave with left-exit region=20
    dynamics likely to maintain a prevalent heavy rain signature across
    the western third of NE down into neighboring northeast CO and=20
    northwest KS. Guidance has come into alignment with the axis of=20
    heaviest precip centered near and just north of North Platte, NE=20
    with the corridor extending south into southwestern NE and=20
    northwest KS by the second half of the forecast period. 00z HREF=20 neighborhood probs for >3" are running between 20-40% across the=20
    referenced area near North Platte and points south. This still=20
    aligns well with the previous forecast MRGL risk leading to little=20
    deviation in the current thinking. The areas of highest risk will=20
    likely be smaller towns and urbanized areas, like North Platte that
    are more susceptible to runoff.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PARTS OF THE
    NORTHERN PLAINS...

    ...2030z update...

    A slight risk was introduced over portions of western South Dakota
    based on increasing qpf trends and better agreement on location of
    deformation axis. FFGs are relatively low (0.75-2") over parts of
    west and northwestern South Dakota with ongoing rainfall likely to
    bring those values down by Wednesday.

    A marginal risk was introduced over much of the Mid-Atlantic
    coastal area due to recent qpf trends. Deterministic guidance have
    increased qpf over an area extending from the Virginia Tidewater up
    to Long Island New York where a plume of subtropical moisture is
    likely to continue interacting with a slow moving surface front
    propagating northward along the coast.

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Northern and Central Plains...

    A strong mid-level shortwave trough will eject into the WY Front
    Range and eventually close off across NE generating a maturing lee
    cyclone across the Central High Plains. The setup will likely cause
    quite a robust deformation signature on the northwest flank of the
    cyclone with ensemble mean QPF placement situated over western NE
    up through western SD into southern ND, arcing back into the nose
    of the warm- conveyor belt (WCB) on the northeast side of the
    system. This is a classic mid- latitude lee cyclogenesis setup with
    a strong jet coupling leading to broad large scale forcing and
    widespread precip across the Plains. Eastern side of the cyclone
    will exhibit the best convective potential given the modest theta_E
    advection pattern poleward within the WCB leading to scattered
    thunderstorm potential from the Southern Plains to as far north as
    the Northern Plains and adjacent Upper Midwest (Western MN).
    Meanwhile, the deformation axis across NE/SD/ND will provide a
    solid precip field with moderate to locally heavy rates for several
    hrs. located in that northwest side of the low. Totals >2" are
    forecast within the means across western NE into the Dakotas with
    scattered elevated QPF across the Missouri River basin located in
    eastern SD and NE down through KS and far western OK. This setup
    is conducive for at least some isolated to scattered flash flood
    prospects considering the broad synoptic scale evolution. A very
    broad MRGL exists across much of the Northern and Central Plains
    with a cull located over NE and northwest KS where the low center
    will be present and drier air entrains into the region Wednesday
    evening and beyond as the low intensifies and approaches occlusion
    phase by Thursday AM.

    ...Southern High Plains...

    Very little change in the previous forecast as run to run
    continuity has allowed for negligible adjustments within the
    previous MRGL risk.

    A maturing lee side low to the north will help drag a trailing
    cold front through the Central and Southern High Plains on
    Wednesday. The front will slip south and southwest once down near
    the latitude of the OK Panhandle, leading to a more textbook
    backdoor frontal progression as it enters into the northern TX
    Panhandle and northeast NM. Flow begins to run more parallel to the
    boundary in these zones when assessing forecast soundings from
    relevant global deterministic. The key in the setup is a relatively
    solid isentropic ascent pattern in a small zone bordering
    CO/OK/NM/TX with cross-section views over the area displaying a
    classic sloped low-level surface FGEN with strong omega correlating
    to rapid ascent as the front progresses through the area. Locally
    enhanced corridor of precip will transpire along and in wake of the
    front with local maxima of 1.5" to as much as 3" plausible during
    the event. This could be enough for an isolated flash flood threat,
    especially in those smaller urban areas situated across the four
    state intersection.

    ...Southwest...

    Another period of isolated to scattered convection is anticipated
    over the terrain encompassing southern AZ up through the central
    and eastern portions of NM with the primary threat being heavy
    rainfall situated over more complex terrain and burn scar remnants.
    Assessment of forecast soundings and hodographs indicate relatively
    slower cell motions, a classic characteristic for flash flood
    prospects over the desert southwest. Guidance reflects local 1-2"
    totals scattered across the region extending from southeast AZ into
    NM with some of the better signals focused within those mountain
    ranges like the Huachucas and Sacramento's. This signal garnered
    enough attention to warrant an addition of a MRGL to account for
    the localized threat.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    Stalled front with an enhanced moisture return across South FL
    will lead to a heightened threat for flash flooding over the urban
    centers of southeast FL. The setup is historically favorable for
    flash flood concerns over the urban zones of southeast FL with
    PWATs hovering between 2-2.3", a solid 1/1.5 deviations above
    normal. CAMs guidance has recently come into range for at least the
    first half of the period with a mixture of results ranging from
    very little precip to multiple heavy convective cores impacting the
    zone between PBI down to MFL. Neighborhood probs for >2" are pretty
    high (>60%) across a large chunk of that above corridor, but
    there's still a precipitous drop off in the probs for >3" with a
    very low EAS signal accompanying. At this juncture, the prospects
    for heavy rainfall seem to be more isolated in nature, but the
    environment is leaning favorable for any cells to potentially drop
    appreciable amounts of rain in a short period of time. The heaviest
    rainfall totals among guidance seem relegated to the FL Keys, an
    area that historically is difficult for flash flood prospects just
    due to the sandier soils and much smaller land footprint available.
    The previous MRGL risk was relatively maintained given the setup
    and the chance for the signal to grow, but for now remains more
    within the lower end of the risk threshold.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS, MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY, SOUTHWEST U.S.,
    AND SOUTHEAST FLORIDA...

    ...2030z update...

    The marginal risk in the Southwest expanded across southern
    Arizona and into far southwestern New Mexico, due to an increased
    signal for convection. The marginal over the Plains was also
    expanded a bit into the Texas/Oklahoma panhandle area. There's
    uncertainty on where the maximum qpf axis will set up over the
    Northern Plains on Thursday. No changes were made to the southeast
    Florida marginal.

    Kebede

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central U.S...

    Broad, occluding cyclone over the center of the CONUS will lead to
    a continuation of scattered convection on the eastern flank of the
    disturbance with a continued axis of deformation over parts of the
    Dakotas. Flash flood potential will be relatively modest
    considering the cyclone undergoing a deteriorating phase by the D3
    juncture. Ensemble means are generally between 0.5-1" within the
    convective zone in the decaying warm-conveyor belt (WCB) with 1-2"
    located within the axis of deformation. The best flash flood risks
    will likely coincide in the convective elements just due to the
    nature of enhanced rates, so overall we're looking at a mid-grade
    MRGL risk for the period, but will assess if there needs to be any
    targeted upgrades as we get closer to the period. For now, the
    broad MRGL inherited will suffice.

    ...Southwest...

    Moisture advection from the northeast edge of tropical cyclone
    Mario off the California Baja will make its presence known across
    Southern CA into adjacent NV/AZ by Thursday morning leading to an
    increasing threat of scattered to widespread convective initiation
    during peak diurnal instability. As PWATs surge to 2-3 deviations
    above normal by Thursday afternoon and beyond across SoCal, the
    environment will be conducive for several convective cores to
    produce fairly heavy rainfall potential, especially over the
    terrain focused from Big Sur, south into the Transverse and
    Peninsular Ranges. The threat for thunderstorms will exist over the
    SoCal deserts, an area very prone to flash flooding due to the high
    runoff capabilities and multitude of dry arroyos littered across
    the region. The northern periphery will likely make its presence
    into southern NV, another area prone to flash flooding due to
    similar issues and added complex topography scattered about the
    area. Totals of 1+" will be common with a likelihood of a few 2+"
    totals considering the environment likely in place. A MRGL risk is
    currently forecast, but would not be surprised to see an upgrade in
    future forecasts, especially over portions of SoCal.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    A rinse and repeat setup carrying over from D2 will lead to a
    continued threat of heavy convection across much of South Florida.
    Frontal alignment still indicates a scattered to widespread
    convective posture across southeast FL where the urban corridor
    will be under threat for more heavy rainfall and flash flood
    prospects. The greatest threat will lie within that zone from
    Melbourne down to Miami with some of the ensemble means greatest
    near West Palm Beach and Port St. Lucie. A MRGL risk exists once
    again for the defined area above between MLB to MFL.

    Kleebauer


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    FOUS30 KWBC 170359
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1159 PM EDT Tue Sep 16 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 0357Z Wed Sep 17 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    SOUTHEASTERN VIRGINIA ALONG WITH SOUTHERN NEBRASKA INTO FAR
    NORTHWEST KANSAS...

    ...04z Update...

    Given radar trends across western IA into eastern NE, a MRGL risk
    was expanded to include these areas to account for an isolated risk
    of flash flooding within the next 3-6 hours. For more on this
    setup, please refer to MPD #1098.

    Kleebauer

    ...Mid Atlantic...

    ...01Z Update...
    Very little change to the Slight and Marginal areas based on the
    latest observational trends, mesoanalysis, recent HRRR runs, and
    HREF/RRFS rainfall exceedance probabilities. We were able to nudge
    the southern boundary of the Slight Risk area to the NC-VA border,
    while also pulling the Marginal Risk north as well to far northeast
    NC. This given the sharp drying (TPW gradient) south of the main
    precipitation shield.

    Hurley

    ...16Z Update...
    The marginal and slight risk areas were shifted north slightly
    over portions of the Virginia Tidewater and northeastern North
    Carolina based on model trends. A small marginal risk area was
    introduced, in coordination with the local Billings office, over
    portions of Yellowstone and the Absaroka Range below 10,000 feet
    where easterly moisture advection into the terrain could generate
    upslope enhanced precipitation over vulnerable soils. PWATs between
    0.5-1 inch, low flash Flood guidance and HREF 24hr 1-3 inch
    exceedance probabilities over 5% support some kind of isolated
    flash potential.

    Kebede

    ...Southwest...

    Scattered convective pattern will initiate later this afternoon
    and the early evening hours before fading with the loss of diurnal
    heating. Current progs are for convection to be tied closer to the
    terrain across southeast AZ into southern NM with isolated
    signatures of >1"/hr plausible in the stronger cell cores. These
    areas generally prone to runoff due to terrain complexities, as
    well as remnant burn scars present in some locations. There was
    very little change from the inherited MRGL risk with the forecast
    running close to general continuity.

    ...Central High Plains...

    ...01Z Update...
    Based on the latest trends with the observations (radar/satellite), mesoanalysis (strong deep-layer CAPE and low-level moisture
    transport), along with the most recent HRRR runs and HREF/RRFS
    rainfall exceedance probabilities, have included a targeted Slight
    Risk area across parts of southwest to central NE. Based on these
    recent trends, expect the highest risk to persist until 03-05Z.

    Hurley

    Previous discussion...

    Strong shortwave trough ejection out of the interior Northwest
    will lead to convective development and regional enhancement across
    the Central High Plains. Greatest ascent is aligned with the
    diffluent region of the mid-level shortwave with left-exit region
    dynamics likely to maintain a prevalent heavy rain signature across
    the western third of NE down into neighboring northeast CO and
    northwest KS. Guidance has come into alignment with the axis of
    heaviest precip centered near and just north of North Platte, NE
    with the corridor extending south into southwestern NE and
    northwest KS by the second half of the forecast period. 00z HREF
    neighborhood probs for >3" are running between 20-40% across the
    referenced area near North Platte and points south. This still
    aligns well with the previous forecast MRGL risk leading to little
    deviation in the current thinking. The areas of highest risk will
    likely be smaller towns and urbanized areas, like North Platte that
    are more susceptible to runoff.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PARTS OF THE
    NORTHERN PLAINS...

    ...2030z update...

    A slight risk was introduced over portions of western South Dakota
    based on increasing qpf trends and better agreement on location of
    deformation axis. FFGs are relatively low (0.75-2") over parts of
    west and northwestern South Dakota with ongoing rainfall likely to
    bring those values down by Wednesday.

    A marginal risk was introduced over much of the Mid-Atlantic
    coastal area due to recent qpf trends. Deterministic guidance have
    increased qpf over an area extending from the Virginia Tidewater up
    to Long Island New York where a plume of subtropical moisture is
    likely to continue interacting with a slow moving surface front
    propagating northward along the coast.

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Northern and Central Plains...

    A strong mid-level shortwave trough will eject into the WY Front
    Range and eventually close off across NE generating a maturing lee
    cyclone across the Central High Plains. The setup will likely cause
    quite a robust deformation signature on the northwest flank of the
    cyclone with ensemble mean QPF placement situated over western NE
    up through western SD into southern ND, arcing back into the nose
    of the warm- conveyor belt (WCB) on the northeast side of the
    system. This is a classic mid- latitude lee cyclogenesis setup with
    a strong jet coupling leading to broad large scale forcing and
    widespread precip across the Plains. Eastern side of the cyclone
    will exhibit the best convective potential given the modest theta_E
    advection pattern poleward within the WCB leading to scattered
    thunderstorm potential from the Southern Plains to as far north as
    the Northern Plains and adjacent Upper Midwest (Western MN).
    Meanwhile, the deformation axis across NE/SD/ND will provide a
    solid precip field with moderate to locally heavy rates for several
    hrs. located in that northwest side of the low. Totals >2" are
    forecast within the means across western NE into the Dakotas with
    scattered elevated QPF across the Missouri River basin located in
    eastern SD and NE down through KS and far western OK. This setup
    is conducive for at least some isolated to scattered flash flood
    prospects considering the broad synoptic scale evolution. A very
    broad MRGL exists across much of the Northern and Central Plains
    with a cull located over NE and northwest KS where the low center
    will be present and drier air entrains into the region Wednesday
    evening and beyond as the low intensifies and approaches occlusion
    phase by Thursday AM.

    ...Southern High Plains...

    Very little change in the previous forecast as run to run
    continuity has allowed for negligible adjustments within the
    previous MRGL risk.

    A maturing lee side low to the north will help drag a trailing
    cold front through the Central and Southern High Plains on
    Wednesday. The front will slip south and southwest once down near
    the latitude of the OK Panhandle, leading to a more textbook
    backdoor frontal progression as it enters into the northern TX
    Panhandle and northeast NM. Flow begins to run more parallel to the
    boundary in these zones when assessing forecast soundings from
    relevant global deterministic. The key in the setup is a relatively
    solid isentropic ascent pattern in a small zone bordering
    CO/OK/NM/TX with cross-section views over the area displaying a
    classic sloped low-level surface FGEN with strong omega correlating
    to rapid ascent as the front progresses through the area. Locally
    enhanced corridor of precip will transpire along and in wake of the
    front with local maxima of 1.5" to as much as 3" plausible during
    the event. This could be enough for an isolated flash flood threat,
    especially in those smaller urban areas situated across the four
    state intersection.

    ...Southwest...

    Another period of isolated to scattered convection is anticipated
    over the terrain encompassing southern AZ up through the central
    and eastern portions of NM with the primary threat being heavy
    rainfall situated over more complex terrain and burn scar remnants.
    Assessment of forecast soundings and hodographs indicate relatively
    slower cell motions, a classic characteristic for flash flood
    prospects over the desert southwest. Guidance reflects local 1-2"
    totals scattered across the region extending from southeast AZ into
    NM with some of the better signals focused within those mountain
    ranges like the Huachucas and Sacramento's. This signal garnered
    enough attention to warrant an addition of a MRGL to account for
    the localized threat.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    Stalled front with an enhanced moisture return across South FL
    will lead to a heightened threat for flash flooding over the urban
    centers of southeast FL. The setup is historically favorable for
    flash flood concerns over the urban zones of southeast FL with
    PWATs hovering between 2-2.3", a solid 1/1.5 deviations above
    normal. CAMs guidance has recently come into range for at least the
    first half of the period with a mixture of results ranging from
    very little precip to multiple heavy convective cores impacting the
    zone between PBI down to MFL. Neighborhood probs for >2" are pretty
    high (>60%) across a large chunk of that above corridor, but
    there's still a precipitous drop off in the probs for >3" with a
    very low EAS signal accompanying. At this juncture, the prospects
    for heavy rainfall seem to be more isolated in nature, but the
    environment is leaning favorable for any cells to potentially drop
    appreciable amounts of rain in a short period of time. The heaviest
    rainfall totals among guidance seem relegated to the FL Keys, an
    area that historically is difficult for flash flood prospects just
    due to the sandier soils and much smaller land footprint available.
    The previous MRGL risk was relatively maintained given the setup
    and the chance for the signal to grow, but for now remains more
    within the lower end of the risk threshold.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS, MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY, SOUTHWEST U.S.,
    AND SOUTHEAST FLORIDA...

    ...2030z update...

    The marginal risk in the Southwest expanded across southern
    Arizona and into far southwestern New Mexico, due to an increased
    signal for convection. The marginal over the Plains was also
    expanded a bit into the Texas/Oklahoma panhandle area. There's
    uncertainty on where the maximum qpf axis will set up over the
    Northern Plains on Thursday. No changes were made to the southeast
    Florida marginal.

    Kebede

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central U.S...

    Broad, occluding cyclone over the center of the CONUS will lead to
    a continuation of scattered convection on the eastern flank of the
    disturbance with a continued axis of deformation over parts of the
    Dakotas. Flash flood potential will be relatively modest
    considering the cyclone undergoing a deteriorating phase by the D3
    juncture. Ensemble means are generally between 0.5-1" within the
    convective zone in the decaying warm-conveyor belt (WCB) with 1-2"
    located within the axis of deformation. The best flash flood risks
    will likely coincide in the convective elements just due to the
    nature of enhanced rates, so overall we're looking at a mid-grade
    MRGL risk for the period, but will assess if there needs to be any
    targeted upgrades as we get closer to the period. For now, the
    broad MRGL inherited will suffice.

    ...Southwest...

    Moisture advection from the northeast edge of tropical cyclone
    Mario off the California Baja will make its presence known across
    Southern CA into adjacent NV/AZ by Thursday morning leading to an
    increasing threat of scattered to widespread convective initiation
    during peak diurnal instability. As PWATs surge to 2-3 deviations
    above normal by Thursday afternoon and beyond across SoCal, the
    environment will be conducive for several convective cores to
    produce fairly heavy rainfall potential, especially over the
    terrain focused from Big Sur, south into the Transverse and
    Peninsular Ranges. The threat for thunderstorms will exist over the
    SoCal deserts, an area very prone to flash flooding due to the high
    runoff capabilities and multitude of dry arroyos littered across
    the region. The northern periphery will likely make its presence
    into southern NV, another area prone to flash flooding due to
    similar issues and added complex topography scattered about the
    area. Totals of 1+" will be common with a likelihood of a few 2+"
    totals considering the environment likely in place. A MRGL risk is
    currently forecast, but would not be surprised to see an upgrade in
    future forecasts, especially over portions of SoCal.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    A rinse and repeat setup carrying over from D2 will lead to a
    continued threat of heavy convection across much of South Florida.
    Frontal alignment still indicates a scattered to widespread
    convective posture across southeast FL where the urban corridor
    will be under threat for more heavy rainfall and flash flood
    prospects. The greatest threat will lie within that zone from
    Melbourne down to Miami with some of the ensemble means greatest
    near West Palm Beach and Port St. Lucie. A MRGL risk exists once
    again for the defined area above between MLB to MFL.

    Kleebauer


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    FOUS30 KWBC 170758
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    358 AM EDT Wed Sep 17 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 17 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR WESTERN AND
    CENTRAL SOUTH DAKOTA...

    ...Northern and Central Plains...

    A broad mid-latitude cyclone will continue to impact a large
    portion of the Plains over the course of Wednesday into Thursday
    with multiple areas of heavy rain plausible given a variety of
    dynamical and thermodynamic processes. The area with the greatest
    concern is likely within the well-defined axis of deformation that
    is forecast to materialize across the western half of SD leading to
    scattered flash flood concerns thanks to wet antecedent conditions
    in wake of a previous disturbance that distributed copious amounts
    of rain to areas along and west of the Missouri River. Guidance is
    in agreement on the threat for 1-3" over the area extending from=20
    the river over to the SD/WY state line, delineating the deformation
    structure forecast to materialize within the northern and western
    half of the cyclone situated over NE. FFG's on the order of 0.5-2"
    between 1/3/6 hr. intervals are running much lower than climo
    leading to a lower threshold to breach that could very well cause
    issues across that broad area of western SD. 5 and 10-year ARI
    exceedance probs are running between 50-80% and 30-60%,
    respectively between the two intervals, a solid representation of
    at least some scattered flash flood concerns with perhaps a broader
    scope of impact considering the areal footprint of the
    probabilities in question. Rates will be ~1"/hr at peak intensity,
    but could very well last for multiple hours due to the anticipated synoptic scale evolution of the surface lows slower forward propagation
    speed leading to training over a large area of SD down into
    northwest NE. In this case, the previous SLGT risk was maintained
    with some minor expansion on the edges to account for the latest
    probabilities and HREF blended mean QPF output.=20=20

    By the afternoon and evening, defined warm conveyor belt (WCB) will
    be situated across much of the Missouri River basin extending from
    OK/AR up into eastern SD. A warm front will lift north and
    transition to a quasi-stationary boundary across east-central SD
    through south-central MN leading to a focused frontal alignment for
    storms to materialize later in the period. This has been a trend
    within the recent CAMs as convective initiation will likely be
    spurred by the arrival of a shortwave pivoting around the eastern
    flank of the primary ULL, generating a better large scale ascent
    pattern focused downstream of the center of circulation. With dew
    points expected to be in the 60s for locations within the defined
    WCB, there will be room for scattered to widespread convective
    development during afternoon and evening time frame as the
    environment ripens with the typical diurnal heat flux. The frontal
    positioning over the Northern Plains and Upper Midwest will be a
    target for training convection as cells can become anchored to the
    front and lead to localized areas of heavy rainfall that could drop
    a quick 2-4" over a span of a few hrs. Rates between 1-2"/hr in
    convection are likely in this setup for anywhere within the WCB
    leading to a general maintenance of the MRGL risk across the
    Plains, but have now expanded the MRGL risk eastward into MN to
    account for the frontal alignment and growing threat of convection
    spawning near and within the boundaries forecast location.=20

    ...Southern High Plains...

    Multi-round convective episode anticipated across the southeast CO
    Front Range down into the OK/TX Panhandles and adjacent northeast
    NM beginning later this afternoon, carrying through the evening
    hours. Lee side low over eastern CO/western KS will materialize
    within the broad synoptic scale evolution occurring over the center
    of the CONUS. A trailing cold front will drag south and southwest
    through the above areas with an initial flare up of convective
    activity this afternoon along the front creating a moment of
    priming before a larger shortwave ejecting out of the Central
    Rockies becomes the focus for later. Models are in agreement on
    quite a strong mid-level vorticity ejection into the Front Range
    late-afternoon and early evening today leading to a blossoming
    convective initiation in-of the terrain just west of I-25 in
    southeast CO. Storms will grow upscale and migrate eastward into
    the Front Range, continuing to slide east-southeast as they deliver
    locally heavy rainfall in their wake leading to an isolated to
    scattered flash flood concern through the second half of the
    forecast. This setup has been documented in some way over the past
    several forecast iterations, but the threat is now clear in the
    main show focused within the strong mid-level ascent pattern
    generated by the shortwave rounding the trough base. Expect
    localized totals of 2-3" in the hardest hit locations with a max of
    up to 4" across the far southeast corner of CO down into the
    northern TX Panhandle. This is reflected by the modest >3"
    neighborhood probabilities in the latest 00z HREF suite, a solid
    indicator for a MRGL risk maintenance from previous forecasts.=20

    ...Southwest...

    Little change from the previous forecast as guidance maintains a
    signal for another period of isolated to scattered convection=20
    over the terrain encompassing southern AZ up through the central=20
    and eastern portions of NM with the primary threat being heavy=20
    rainfall situated over more complex terrain and burn scar remnants.
    Assessment of forecast soundings and hodographs indicate=20
    relatively slower cell motions, a classic characteristic for flash=20
    flood prospects over the desert southwest. Guidance reflects local=20
    1-2" totals scattered across the region extending from southeast AZ
    into NM with some of the better signals focused within those=20
    mountain ranges like the Huachucas and Sacramento's. The previous
    MRGL risk was relatively unchanged considering the favorable run
    to run continuity.=20

    ...Southeast Florida...

    Broad cyclonic pattern across the eastern CONUS will aid in
    advecting a relatively stout mid-level shortwave currently centered
    along the northern coast of Cuba. IR satellite this evening shows
    the disturbance is very well-defined with a centroid of cooler
    cloud tops indicating scattered to widespread convective coverage
    in-of the western Florida Straits at this hour. Considering the
    south to southwesterly flow between the 850-300mb layer, the
    expectation is for convection to move generally northeast with the
    mean flow, ushering in a more focused area of forcing capable of
    impacting all of South FL, including the Keys with heavy rainfall
    at any point. PWATs are on the rise according to the latest 00z
    RAOB's out of KMFL and KEYW this evening with a broad expanse of
    1.9-2.2" PWATs over the region. Forecast is for PWATs to continue
    to increase with an expectation of indices to settle between
    2-2.3", a solid 1-1.5 deviations above normal when assessing the
    latest NAEFS output. Guidance is keying in on the FL Keys to be the
    primary focus for heaviest QPF during the forecast period, however
    the environment is favored for any area situated south of I-4,
    especially over southeast FL where sea breeze components and deep
    moisture presence will lend to pockets of very heavy rainfall from
    convection that develops over the area. These cells will be
    scattered in nature, but the prospects for 2-3"/hr rates with
    higher intra-hour rates across the urban corridor from Melbourne
    down to Miami will make for at least a modest MRGL risk for
    excessive rainfall over the next 24+ hours. The previous risk was
    expanded north to include KMLB as hi-res trends are keying on a
    convergent area north of where the previous risk forecast(s) have
    been made.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS, MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY, SOUTHWEST U.S.,
    AND SOUTHEAST FLORIDA...

    ...Central U.S...

    Broad occlusion will be taking shape across the Central CONUS with
    locally heavy rainfall potential focused within the residual axis
    of deformation across the Dakotas, as well as along the progression
    of the cold front from MN down into the Southern Plains. Guidance
    is all over the place with the exact placement of relevant QPF
    maxima, however the ensemble means still emphasize the potential
    within these zones referenced above. Expectation is for multiple
    storm clusters to aid in the threat with some places likely to see
    2-4" inches thanks to the +1 to +2 deviation PWATs situated from OK
    up through the Upper Midwest and Northern Plains. Environment
    favors rate potential of 1-2"/hr in any cell within the WCB as
    general buoyancy should spur several thunderstorms along and ahead
    of the front as it migrates into the Mississippi Valley. As we get
    closer in time, it's plausible to have a targeted upgrade, or two,
    so it will be a period to monitor.=20

    ...Southwest U.S...

    Remnant moisture from post-tropical cyclone Mario will advect
    poleward with California generally in the cross-hairs for elevated
    moisture to move into the southern half of the state during the end
    of the D1 into D2 time frame. Energy from Mario will lag the=20
    initial low to mid- level moisture surge, but eventually will enter
    into the area by the late-morning hrs. Thursday. Models are pretty
    consistent in the meridional push of elevated moisture leading to=20 scattered/widespread convection forming across much of SoCal,=20
    especially the lower deserts and terrain focused areas from Big Sur
    down into the Transverse and Peninsular ranges. It will be=20
    important to monitor the progression of the remnant mid-level=20
    energy as a more consolidated vorticity maxima would likely cause a
    period of enhanced, focused rainfall in-of the coastal terrain=20
    north of Los Angeles. As of now, the setup favors the energy=20
    becoming increasingly sheared with a more scattered convective=20
    depiction in the precip field. 00z ECMWF shows what could transpire
    with a more consolidated vorticity maxima with a stripe of heavy=20
    rainfall aligned south to north which would easily necessitate a=20
    risk area higher than the current MRGL in place. With PWATs likely=20
    to surge to 1.7-2.0", rainfall rates >1"/hr are certainly possible,
    a threshold that historically has caused localized flooding to some
    degree, leading to totals of 1-3" with room for higher if
    everything breaks unfavorably for the region. This is something to
    monitor as we step closer in time, but for now the threat is deemed
    a MRGL with a chance at an upgrade as we move further into the CAMs
    window for a better assessment on potential precip maxima.=20

    ...Southeast Florida...

    General persistence in the pattern across southern FL with elevated
    PWATs and streaming mid-level vorticity plaguing the region leading
    to scattered bouts of heavy rainfall within any convective
    development. The area of interest remains centered on the urban
    corridor from Melbourne to Miami just due to the repeated nature of
    convection and the lower FFG's aligned within the urbanization
    footprint. Models are still everywhere in the placement of the
    heaviest precip, some just offshore, and others hitting the Keys
    and southern peninsula pretty hard over the course of D1 and D2.
    Considering the environmental factors and continuity in the
    pattern, maintaining the previous MRGL risk is more than sufficient
    for the setup. Little to no change was necessary given the 00z NWP
    output.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS, MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY, SOUTHWEST U.S.,
    CENTRAL SIERRA NEVADA'S, AND SOUTHEAST FLORIDA...

    ...Northern Plains to Mississippi Valley...

    Our occluded low will continue to churn across the northern CONUS
    with another round of convection forecast on the eastern flank of
    the remnant cyclone. The threat is forecast to wane compared to the
    previous periods, but there is still a general MRGL risk for flash
    flooding in any cells that develop from the Mid to Upper-
    Mississippi Valley. Models are still all over the place in location
    and magnitude, but the premise of the environment remaining
    favorable for the threat warranted a continuation of the MRGL risk
    from previous forecasts.=20

    ...Western U.S...

    Elevated moisture from remnants of Mario will linger and allow for
    scattered to widespread convection to materialize over the
    Southwestern U.S. and over portions of the Sierra's of CA. Pending
    the mid-level evolution of the energy from Mario bleeding into D3,
    a heavier precip threat is possible, but not anticipated at this
    time. The setup should be able to adequately shear any mid-level
    vorticity leading to a less pronounced setup regionally. Still, the
    moisture anomalies and expected instability presence will allow for
    at least widely scattered flash flood concerns heading into the end
    of the week and early weekend. A MRGL risk remains for the
    Southwest and the California Sierra's.=20

    ...Southeast Florida...

    A chance for lingering heavy rainfall across southeast FL near
    Miami remains within the means, enough to warrant a maintenance=20=20
    of the inherited MRGL risk. It will really come down to finer=20
    mesoscale details and timing of when the incessant shortwave energy
    progression vacates the area. For now, there's enough to keep what
    was forecast prior, but will assess as we get closer in time. The=20
    area is small in spatial coverage, so there's a chance it is=20
    removed, or expanded once more CAMs windows shed light on the=20
    setup.=20

    Kleebauer


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    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_AybnRb16AwsOOhEGcSMaQwzsTN2XWFuUrjcHZGGMupK= -Ct2WbZ7qT1lPKCLgFSgJh4PCOiysU7sp6D8L0BKML0tyWk$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_AybnRb16AwsOOhEGcSMaQwzsTN2XWFuUrjcHZGGMupK= -Ct2WbZ7qT1lPKCLgFSgJh4PCOiysU7sp6D8L0BKa1xjq34$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Sep 17 15:53:16 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 171553
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1153 AM EDT Wed Sep 17 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Sep 17 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR WESTERN AND
    CENTRAL SOUTH DAKOTA...

    ...16Z Update...

    ...Central Plains...

    A slow-moving surface low with at least some tap into some Gulf
    moisture is moving across central Nebraska this midday. Wraparound
    bands of rain are presently north to west of the circulation
    center, over central and western South Dakota. With daytime heating
    and advection, some instability is expected to work into the
    circulation, especially southern portions of the rainfall shield.
    Any convection will be capable of locally heavier rainfall rates.
    Since the overall circulation is nearly stationary, so too is the
    comma-head band of rainfall. Thus, expect a long-duration light to
    moderate rain to continue across this region well into tonight.
    Embedded convection locally enhancing rainfall rates should result
    in widely scattered instances of flash flooding.=20

    Further east however into Minnesota and Iowa, there will be more
    convection, but that convection will be faster moving, resulting in
    less total rainfall. Thus, the Marginal Risk remains in place. From
    central Minnesota into Wisconsin, a similarly slow-moving attendant
    warm front may also cause isolated flash flooding, where slow-
    moving convection fed by the southerly flow of moisture and
    instability could also result in highly localized areas of much
    higher rainfall totals and isolated flash flooding.

    ...Mid-Atlantic...

    A second vertically stacked low over the Mid-Atlantic continues to
    weaken this afternoon and will likely dissipate entirely by opening
    up into a surface trough by this evening. Until such time however,
    there remains a band or two of a bit heavier rain across the
    Maryland and West Virginia Panhandles into far northwestern
    Virginia. Additional daytime heating today may allow for some=20
    limited elevated convection to form within this band before it=20
    dissipates, so a small Marginal Risk was left in place, but it is
    very low-end.

    ...South Florida...

    Very slow-moving but highly efficient areas of convection are
    ongoing in and around much of South Florida, including the Keys.
    There is a distinct possibility that one or more of those very slow
    moving cells could stall over one or more of Keys today, which=20
    could cause localized ponding. Thus, a Marginal Risk was added. For
    mainland Florida, the main flooding hazard would be confined to=20
    the urban I-95 corridor from Melbourne south. It will also be for=20
    the possibility of slow moving convection, perhaps along any=20
    localized cold pool boundaries or sea breezes.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Northern and Central Plains...

    A broad mid-latitude cyclone will continue to impact a large
    portion of the Plains over the course of Wednesday into Thursday
    with multiple areas of heavy rain plausible given a variety of
    dynamical and thermodynamic processes. The area with the greatest
    concern is likely within the well-defined axis of deformation that
    is forecast to materialize across the western half of SD leading to
    scattered flash flood concerns thanks to wet antecedent conditions
    in wake of a previous disturbance that distributed copious amounts
    of rain to areas along and west of the Missouri River. Guidance is
    in agreement on the threat for 1-3" over the area extending from
    the river over to the SD/WY state line, delineating the deformation
    structure forecast to materialize within the northern and western
    half of the cyclone situated over NE. FFG's on the order of 0.5-2"
    between 1/3/6 hr. intervals are running much lower than climo
    leading to a lower threshold to breach that could very well cause
    issues across that broad area of western SD. 5 and 10-year ARI
    exceedance probs are running between 50-80% and 30-60%,
    respectively between the two intervals, a solid representation of
    at least some scattered flash flood concerns with perhaps a broader
    scope of impact considering the areal footprint of the
    probabilities in question. Rates will be ~1"/hr at peak intensity,
    but could very well last for multiple hours due to the anticipated synoptic scale evolution of the surface lows slower forward propagation
    speed leading to training over a large area of SD down into
    northwest NE. In this case, the previous SLGT risk was maintained
    with some minor expansion on the edges to account for the latest
    probabilities and HREF blended mean QPF output.

    By the afternoon and evening, defined warm conveyor belt (WCB) will
    be situated across much of the Missouri River basin extending from
    OK/AR up into eastern SD. A warm front will lift north and
    transition to a quasi-stationary boundary across east-central SD
    through south-central MN leading to a focused frontal alignment for
    storms to materialize later in the period. This has been a trend
    within the recent CAMs as convective initiation will likely be
    spurred by the arrival of a shortwave pivoting around the eastern
    flank of the primary ULL, generating a better large scale ascent
    pattern focused downstream of the center of circulation. With dew
    points expected to be in the 60s for locations within the defined
    WCB, there will be room for scattered to widespread convective
    development during afternoon and evening time frame as the
    environment ripens with the typical diurnal heat flux. The frontal
    positioning over the Northern Plains and Upper Midwest will be a
    target for training convection as cells can become anchored to the
    front and lead to localized areas of heavy rainfall that could drop
    a quick 2-4" over a span of a few hrs. Rates between 1-2"/hr in
    convection are likely in this setup for anywhere within the WCB
    leading to a general maintenance of the MRGL risk across the
    Plains, but have now expanded the MRGL risk eastward into MN to
    account for the frontal alignment and growing threat of convection
    spawning near and within the boundaries forecast location.

    ...Southern High Plains...

    Multi-round convective episode anticipated across the southeast CO
    Front Range down into the OK/TX Panhandles and adjacent northeast
    NM beginning later this afternoon, carrying through the evening
    hours. Lee side low over eastern CO/western KS will materialize
    within the broad synoptic scale evolution occurring over the center
    of the CONUS. A trailing cold front will drag south and southwest
    through the above areas with an initial flare up of convective
    activity this afternoon along the front creating a moment of
    priming before a larger shortwave ejecting out of the Central
    Rockies becomes the focus for later. Models are in agreement on
    quite a strong mid-level vorticity ejection into the Front Range
    late-afternoon and early evening today leading to a blossoming
    convective initiation in-of the terrain just west of I-25 in
    southeast CO. Storms will grow upscale and migrate eastward into
    the Front Range, continuing to slide east-southeast as they deliver
    locally heavy rainfall in their wake leading to an isolated to
    scattered flash flood concern through the second half of the
    forecast. This setup has been documented in some way over the past
    several forecast iterations, but the threat is now clear in the
    main show focused within the strong mid-level ascent pattern
    generated by the shortwave rounding the trough base. Expect
    localized totals of 2-3" in the hardest hit locations with a max of
    up to 4" across the far southeast corner of CO down into the
    northern TX Panhandle. This is reflected by the modest >3"
    neighborhood probabilities in the latest 00z HREF suite, a solid
    indicator for a MRGL risk maintenance from previous forecasts.

    ...Southwest...

    Little change from the previous forecast as guidance maintains a
    signal for another period of isolated to scattered convection
    over the terrain encompassing southern AZ up through the central
    and eastern portions of NM with the primary threat being heavy
    rainfall situated over more complex terrain and burn scar remnants.
    Assessment of forecast soundings and hodographs indicate
    relatively slower cell motions, a classic characteristic for flash
    flood prospects over the desert southwest. Guidance reflects local
    1-2" totals scattered across the region extending from southeast AZ
    into NM with some of the better signals focused within those
    mountain ranges like the Huachucas and Sacramento's. The previous
    MRGL risk was relatively unchanged considering the favorable run
    to run continuity.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    Broad cyclonic pattern across the eastern CONUS will aid in
    advecting a relatively stout mid-level shortwave currently centered
    along the northern coast of Cuba. IR satellite this evening shows
    the disturbance is very well-defined with a centroid of cooler
    cloud tops indicating scattered to widespread convective coverage
    in-of the western Florida Straits at this hour. Considering the
    south to southwesterly flow between the 850-300mb layer, the
    expectation is for convection to move generally northeast with the
    mean flow, ushering in a more focused area of forcing capable of
    impacting all of South FL, including the Keys with heavy rainfall
    at any point. PWATs are on the rise according to the latest 00z
    RAOB's out of KMFL and KEYW this evening with a broad expanse of
    1.9-2.2" PWATs over the region. Forecast is for PWATs to continue
    to increase with an expectation of indices to settle between
    2-2.3", a solid 1-1.5 deviations above normal when assessing the
    latest NAEFS output. Guidance is keying in on the FL Keys to be the
    primary focus for heaviest QPF during the forecast period, however
    the environment is favored for any area situated south of I-4,
    especially over southeast FL where sea breeze components and deep
    moisture presence will lend to pockets of very heavy rainfall from
    convection that develops over the area. These cells will be
    scattered in nature, but the prospects for 2-3"/hr rates with
    higher intra-hour rates across the urban corridor from Melbourne
    down to Miami will make for at least a modest MRGL risk for
    excessive rainfall over the next 24+ hours. The previous risk was
    expanded north to include KMLB as hi-res trends are keying on a
    convergent area north of where the previous risk forecast(s) have
    been made.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS, MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY, SOUTHWEST U.S.,
    AND SOUTHEAST FLORIDA...

    ...Central U.S...

    Broad occlusion will be taking shape across the Central CONUS with
    locally heavy rainfall potential focused within the residual axis
    of deformation across the Dakotas, as well as along the progression
    of the cold front from MN down into the Southern Plains. Guidance
    is all over the place with the exact placement of relevant QPF
    maxima, however the ensemble means still emphasize the potential
    within these zones referenced above. Expectation is for multiple
    storm clusters to aid in the threat with some places likely to see
    2-4" inches thanks to the +1 to +2 deviation PWATs situated from OK
    up through the Upper Midwest and Northern Plains. Environment
    favors rate potential of 1-2"/hr in any cell within the WCB as
    general buoyancy should spur several thunderstorms along and ahead
    of the front as it migrates into the Mississippi Valley. As we get
    closer in time, it's plausible to have a targeted upgrade, or two,
    so it will be a period to monitor.

    ...Southwest U.S...

    Remnant moisture from post-tropical cyclone Mario will advect
    poleward with California generally in the cross-hairs for elevated
    moisture to move into the southern half of the state during the end
    of the D1 into D2 time frame. Energy from Mario will lag the
    initial low to mid- level moisture surge, but eventually will enter
    into the area by the late-morning hrs. Thursday. Models are pretty
    consistent in the meridional push of elevated moisture leading to scattered/widespread convection forming across much of SoCal,
    especially the lower deserts and terrain focused areas from Big Sur
    down into the Transverse and Peninsular ranges. It will be
    important to monitor the progression of the remnant mid-level
    energy as a more consolidated vorticity maxima would likely cause a
    period of enhanced, focused rainfall in-of the coastal terrain
    north of Los Angeles. As of now, the setup favors the energy
    becoming increasingly sheared with a more scattered convective
    depiction in the precip field. 00z ECMWF shows what could transpire
    with a more consolidated vorticity maxima with a stripe of heavy
    rainfall aligned south to north which would easily necessitate a
    risk area higher than the current MRGL in place. With PWATs likely
    to surge to 1.7-2.0", rainfall rates >1"/hr are certainly possible,
    a threshold that historically has caused localized flooding to some
    degree, leading to totals of 1-3" with room for higher if
    everything breaks unfavorably for the region. This is something to
    monitor as we step closer in time, but for now the threat is deemed
    a MRGL with a chance at an upgrade as we move further into the CAMs
    window for a better assessment on potential precip maxima.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    General persistence in the pattern across southern FL with elevated
    PWATs and streaming mid-level vorticity plaguing the region leading
    to scattered bouts of heavy rainfall within any convective
    development. The area of interest remains centered on the urban
    corridor from Melbourne to Miami just due to the repeated nature of
    convection and the lower FFG's aligned within the urbanization
    footprint. Models are still everywhere in the placement of the
    heaviest precip, some just offshore, and others hitting the Keys
    and southern peninsula pretty hard over the course of D1 and D2.
    Considering the environmental factors and continuity in the
    pattern, maintaining the previous MRGL risk is more than sufficient
    for the setup. Little to no change was necessary given the 00z NWP
    output.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS, MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY, SOUTHWEST U.S.,
    CENTRAL SIERRA NEVADA'S, AND SOUTHEAST FLORIDA...

    ...Northern Plains to Mississippi Valley...

    Our occluded low will continue to churn across the northern CONUS
    with another round of convection forecast on the eastern flank of
    the remnant cyclone. The threat is forecast to wane compared to the
    previous periods, but there is still a general MRGL risk for flash
    flooding in any cells that develop from the Mid to Upper-
    Mississippi Valley. Models are still all over the place in location
    and magnitude, but the premise of the environment remaining
    favorable for the threat warranted a continuation of the MRGL risk
    from previous forecasts.

    ...Western U.S...

    Elevated moisture from remnants of Mario will linger and allow for
    scattered to widespread convection to materialize over the
    Southwestern U.S. and over portions of the Sierra's of CA. Pending
    the mid-level evolution of the energy from Mario bleeding into D3,
    a heavier precip threat is possible, but not anticipated at this
    time. The setup should be able to adequately shear any mid-level
    vorticity leading to a less pronounced setup regionally. Still, the
    moisture anomalies and expected instability presence will allow for
    at least widely scattered flash flood concerns heading into the end
    of the week and early weekend. A MRGL risk remains for the
    Southwest and the California Sierra's.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    A chance for lingering heavy rainfall across southeast FL near
    Miami remains within the means, enough to warrant a maintenance
    of the inherited MRGL risk. It will really come down to finer
    mesoscale details and timing of when the incessant shortwave energy
    progression vacates the area. For now, there's enough to keep what
    was forecast prior, but will assess as we get closer in time. The
    area is small in spatial coverage, so there's a chance it is
    removed, or expanded once more CAMs windows shed light on the
    setup.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5lY5_UagMKPw4SeJZZPNIQ1IttIOIOrarSJpdyO1DUqU= AavJy4874fxjXBkYKgknJwuRfEW5f9ITRy1w37TQ3YJf6cM$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5lY5_UagMKPw4SeJZZPNIQ1IttIOIOrarSJpdyO1DUqU= AavJy4874fxjXBkYKgknJwuRfEW5f9ITRy1w37TQDZFrOT4$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5lY5_UagMKPw4SeJZZPNIQ1IttIOIOrarSJpdyO1DUqU= AavJy4874fxjXBkYKgknJwuRfEW5f9ITRy1w37TQA-kmT5I$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Sep 17 19:47:29 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 171947
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    347 PM EDT Wed Sep 17 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Sep 17 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR WESTERN AND
    CENTRAL SOUTH DAKOTA...

    ...16Z Update...

    ...Central Plains...

    A slow-moving surface low with at least some tap into some Gulf
    moisture is moving across central Nebraska this midday. Wraparound
    bands of rain are presently north to west of the circulation
    center, over central and western South Dakota. With daytime heating
    and advection, some instability is expected to work into the
    circulation, especially southern portions of the rainfall shield.
    Any convection will be capable of locally heavier rainfall rates.
    Since the overall circulation is nearly stationary, so too is the
    comma-head band of rainfall. Thus, expect a long-duration light to
    moderate rain to continue across this region well into tonight.
    Embedded convection locally enhancing rainfall rates should result
    in widely scattered instances of flash flooding.

    Further east however into Minnesota and Iowa, there will be more
    convection, but that convection will be faster moving, resulting in
    less total rainfall. Thus, the Marginal Risk remains in place. From
    central Minnesota into Wisconsin, a similarly slow-moving attendant
    warm front may also cause isolated flash flooding, where slow-
    moving convection fed by the southerly flow of moisture and
    instability could also result in highly localized areas of much
    higher rainfall totals and isolated flash flooding.

    ...Mid-Atlantic...

    A second vertically stacked low over the Mid-Atlantic continues to
    weaken this afternoon and will likely dissipate entirely by opening
    up into a surface trough by this evening. Until such time however,
    there remains a band or two of a bit heavier rain across the
    Maryland and West Virginia Panhandles into far northwestern
    Virginia. Additional daytime heating today may allow for some
    limited elevated convection to form within this band before it
    dissipates, so a small Marginal Risk was left in place, but it is
    very low-end.

    ...South Florida...

    Very slow-moving but highly efficient areas of convection are
    ongoing in and around much of South Florida, including the Keys.
    There is a distinct possibility that one or more of those very slow
    moving cells could stall over one or more of Keys today, which
    could cause localized ponding. Thus, a Marginal Risk was added. For
    mainland Florida, the main flooding hazard would be confined to
    the urban I-95 corridor from Melbourne south. It will also be for
    the possibility of slow moving convection, perhaps along any
    localized cold pool boundaries or sea breezes.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Northern and Central Plains...

    A broad mid-latitude cyclone will continue to impact a large
    portion of the Plains over the course of Wednesday into Thursday
    with multiple areas of heavy rain plausible given a variety of
    dynamical and thermodynamic processes. The area with the greatest
    concern is likely within the well-defined axis of deformation that
    is forecast to materialize across the western half of SD leading to
    scattered flash flood concerns thanks to wet antecedent conditions
    in wake of a previous disturbance that distributed copious amounts
    of rain to areas along and west of the Missouri River. Guidance is
    in agreement on the threat for 1-3" over the area extending from
    the river over to the SD/WY state line, delineating the deformation
    structure forecast to materialize within the northern and western
    half of the cyclone situated over NE. FFG's on the order of 0.5-2"
    between 1/3/6 hr. intervals are running much lower than climo
    leading to a lower threshold to breach that could very well cause
    issues across that broad area of western SD. 5 and 10-year ARI
    exceedance probs are running between 50-80% and 30-60%,
    respectively between the two intervals, a solid representation of
    at least some scattered flash flood concerns with perhaps a broader
    scope of impact considering the areal footprint of the
    probabilities in question. Rates will be ~1"/hr at peak intensity,
    but could very well last for multiple hours due to the anticipated synoptic scale evolution of the surface lows slower forward propagation
    speed leading to training over a large area of SD down into
    northwest NE. In this case, the previous SLGT risk was maintained
    with some minor expansion on the edges to account for the latest
    probabilities and HREF blended mean QPF output.

    By the afternoon and evening, defined warm conveyor belt (WCB) will
    be situated across much of the Missouri River basin extending from
    OK/AR up into eastern SD. A warm front will lift north and
    transition to a quasi-stationary boundary across east-central SD
    through south-central MN leading to a focused frontal alignment for
    storms to materialize later in the period. This has been a trend
    within the recent CAMs as convective initiation will likely be
    spurred by the arrival of a shortwave pivoting around the eastern
    flank of the primary ULL, generating a better large scale ascent
    pattern focused downstream of the center of circulation. With dew
    points expected to be in the 60s for locations within the defined
    WCB, there will be room for scattered to widespread convective
    development during afternoon and evening time frame as the
    environment ripens with the typical diurnal heat flux. The frontal
    positioning over the Northern Plains and Upper Midwest will be a
    target for training convection as cells can become anchored to the
    front and lead to localized areas of heavy rainfall that could drop
    a quick 2-4" over a span of a few hrs. Rates between 1-2"/hr in
    convection are likely in this setup for anywhere within the WCB
    leading to a general maintenance of the MRGL risk across the
    Plains, but have now expanded the MRGL risk eastward into MN to
    account for the frontal alignment and growing threat of convection
    spawning near and within the boundaries forecast location.

    ...Southern High Plains...

    Multi-round convective episode anticipated across the southeast CO
    Front Range down into the OK/TX Panhandles and adjacent northeast
    NM beginning later this afternoon, carrying through the evening
    hours. Lee side low over eastern CO/western KS will materialize
    within the broad synoptic scale evolution occurring over the center
    of the CONUS. A trailing cold front will drag south and southwest
    through the above areas with an initial flare up of convective
    activity this afternoon along the front creating a moment of
    priming before a larger shortwave ejecting out of the Central
    Rockies becomes the focus for later. Models are in agreement on
    quite a strong mid-level vorticity ejection into the Front Range
    late-afternoon and early evening today leading to a blossoming
    convective initiation in-of the terrain just west of I-25 in
    southeast CO. Storms will grow upscale and migrate eastward into
    the Front Range, continuing to slide east-southeast as they deliver
    locally heavy rainfall in their wake leading to an isolated to
    scattered flash flood concern through the second half of the
    forecast. This setup has been documented in some way over the past
    several forecast iterations, but the threat is now clear in the
    main show focused within the strong mid-level ascent pattern
    generated by the shortwave rounding the trough base. Expect
    localized totals of 2-3" in the hardest hit locations with a max of
    up to 4" across the far southeast corner of CO down into the
    northern TX Panhandle. This is reflected by the modest >3"
    neighborhood probabilities in the latest 00z HREF suite, a solid
    indicator for a MRGL risk maintenance from previous forecasts.

    ...Southwest...

    Little change from the previous forecast as guidance maintains a
    signal for another period of isolated to scattered convection
    over the terrain encompassing southern AZ up through the central
    and eastern portions of NM with the primary threat being heavy
    rainfall situated over more complex terrain and burn scar remnants.
    Assessment of forecast soundings and hodographs indicate
    relatively slower cell motions, a classic characteristic for flash
    flood prospects over the desert southwest. Guidance reflects local
    1-2" totals scattered across the region extending from southeast AZ
    into NM with some of the better signals focused within those
    mountain ranges like the Huachucas and Sacramento's. The previous
    MRGL risk was relatively unchanged considering the favorable run
    to run continuity.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    Broad cyclonic pattern across the eastern CONUS will aid in
    advecting a relatively stout mid-level shortwave currently centered
    along the northern coast of Cuba. IR satellite this evening shows
    the disturbance is very well-defined with a centroid of cooler
    cloud tops indicating scattered to widespread convective coverage
    in-of the western Florida Straits at this hour. Considering the
    south to southwesterly flow between the 850-300mb layer, the
    expectation is for convection to move generally northeast with the
    mean flow, ushering in a more focused area of forcing capable of
    impacting all of South FL, including the Keys with heavy rainfall
    at any point. PWATs are on the rise according to the latest 00z
    RAOB's out of KMFL and KEYW this evening with a broad expanse of
    1.9-2.2" PWATs over the region. Forecast is for PWATs to continue
    to increase with an expectation of indices to settle between
    2-2.3", a solid 1-1.5 deviations above normal when assessing the
    latest NAEFS output. Guidance is keying in on the FL Keys to be the
    primary focus for heaviest QPF during the forecast period, however
    the environment is favored for any area situated south of I-4,
    especially over southeast FL where sea breeze components and deep
    moisture presence will lend to pockets of very heavy rainfall from
    convection that develops over the area. These cells will be
    scattered in nature, but the prospects for 2-3"/hr rates with
    higher intra-hour rates across the urban corridor from Melbourne
    down to Miami will make for at least a modest MRGL risk for
    excessive rainfall over the next 24+ hours. The previous risk was
    expanded north to include KMLB as hi-res trends are keying on a
    convergent area north of where the previous risk forecast(s) have
    been made.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF
    SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA...

    ...2030Z Update...

    ...Southwest...

    In coordination with SGX/San Diego, CA; LOX/Oxnard, CA; VEF/Las
    Vegas, NV; PSR/Phoenix, AZ; and HNX/Hanford, CA forecast offices, a
    Slight Risk upgrade has been issued for much of Southern
    California and the Arizona side of the Colorado River. The mid-
    level remnants of Mario are making their way north up the coast.
    They are advecting abundant tropical moisture along with them, with
    PWATs well over 1.5 inches at and along the coast. This is at least
    4 sigma above normal for this time of year. Thus, this amount of
    moisture is highly anomalous for this part of the country. In
    addition to the moisture, significant instability will also be
    present, with a rough average of the CAMs suggesting there will be
    over 1,000 J/kg of CAPE in much of southern California Thursday
    afternoon. Finally, the mid-level circulation center, while fully
    detached from the now dissipated low level circulation of Mario,
    will itself remain strong enough to provide adequate forcing for
    shower and thunderstorm activity across much of southern
    California. Expect any thunderstorm activity to be capable of 1
    inch per hour rainfall rates, locally higher in favorable terrain
    areas.

    Working against any flooding will be the fast storm motion and
    potential for cloud cover to stabilize the lower atmosphere. Clouds
    will increase along and ahead of the low center, and where clouds
    are, the sun will be blocked, which will limit the daytime heating
    necessary to locally increase instability values. There is high
    uncertainty as to how much cloud cover there will be in between the
    storms. More cloud cover will mean lower chances for flash
    flooding. Further, with the circulation of Mario continuing to
    track north, expect any storms over California to be moving along
    Thursday afternoon. This should in most cases limit the potential
    for flooding. However, conditions are also favorable for training
    of storms, so while no one storm is likely to stall out over a
    given area, the combination of multiple storms appears likely. This
    event appears to be a low-confidence but high impact event. This
    means while the chance of flooding in any one area remains low,
    there will likely be multiple instances where heavy rain from
    training storms impacts a given area, resulting in flooding.

    ...Plains...

    No significant changes were made to the Marginal Risk area across
    the Plains. A slow-moving front may provide the forcing for more
    widespread storms from eastern Oklahoma north into the Dakotas, but
    the signal for heavy rain is low given the potential for the storms
    are moving quickly or that there is less coverage of storms.
    Meanwhile into eastern ND, the maximum of QPF is likely from a
    long-duration stratiform rain, which should only cause isolated
    flooding impacts.

    Wegman


    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central U.S...

    Broad occlusion will be taking shape across the Central CONUS with
    locally heavy rainfall potential focused within the residual axis
    of deformation across the Dakotas, as well as along the progression
    of the cold front from MN down into the Southern Plains. Guidance
    is all over the place with the exact placement of relevant QPF
    maxima, however the ensemble means still emphasize the potential
    within these zones referenced above. Expectation is for multiple
    storm clusters to aid in the threat with some places likely to see
    2-4" inches thanks to the +1 to +2 deviation PWATs situated from OK
    up through the Upper Midwest and Northern Plains. Environment
    favors rate potential of 1-2"/hr in any cell within the WCB as
    general buoyancy should spur several thunderstorms along and ahead
    of the front as it migrates into the Mississippi Valley. As we get
    closer in time, it's plausible to have a targeted upgrade, or two,
    so it will be a period to monitor.

    ...Southwest U.S...

    Remnant moisture from post-tropical cyclone Mario will advect
    poleward with California generally in the cross-hairs for elevated
    moisture to move into the southern half of the state during the end
    of the D1 into D2 time frame. Energy from Mario will lag the
    initial low to mid- level moisture surge, but eventually will enter
    into the area by the late-morning hrs. Thursday. Models are pretty
    consistent in the meridional push of elevated moisture leading to scattered/widespread convection forming across much of SoCal,
    especially the lower deserts and terrain focused areas from Big Sur
    down into the Transverse and Peninsular ranges. It will be
    important to monitor the progression of the remnant mid-level
    energy as a more consolidated vorticity maxima would likely cause a
    period of enhanced, focused rainfall in-of the coastal terrain
    north of Los Angeles. As of now, the setup favors the energy
    becoming increasingly sheared with a more scattered convective
    depiction in the precip field. 00z ECMWF shows what could transpire
    with a more consolidated vorticity maxima with a stripe of heavy
    rainfall aligned south to north which would easily necessitate a
    risk area higher than the current MRGL in place. With PWATs likely
    to surge to 1.7-2.0", rainfall rates >1"/hr are certainly possible,
    a threshold that historically has caused localized flooding to some
    degree, leading to totals of 1-3" with room for higher if
    everything breaks unfavorably for the region. This is something to
    monitor as we step closer in time, but for now the threat is deemed
    a MRGL with a chance at an upgrade as we move further into the CAMs
    window for a better assessment on potential precip maxima.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    General persistence in the pattern across southern FL with elevated
    PWATs and streaming mid-level vorticity plaguing the region leading
    to scattered bouts of heavy rainfall within any convective
    development. The area of interest remains centered on the urban
    corridor from Melbourne to Miami just due to the repeated nature of
    convection and the lower FFG's aligned within the urbanization
    footprint. Models are still everywhere in the placement of the
    heaviest precip, some just offshore, and others hitting the Keys
    and southern peninsula pretty hard over the course of D1 and D2.
    Considering the environmental factors and continuity in the
    pattern, maintaining the previous MRGL risk is more than sufficient
    for the setup. Little to no change was necessary given the 00z NWP
    output.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS, MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY, SOUTHWEST U.S.,
    CENTRAL SIERRA NEVADAS, AND SOUTHEAST FLORIDA...

    ...2030Z Update...

    No significant changes were made anywhere in the country. Much of
    the flooding risk in each of the Marginal Risk areas is tied to=20
    where and how numerous any clusters/complexes of storms develop,=20
    which remain highly uncertain. It appears probable with improving
    signal that a future Slight Risk may be needed in some areas, such
    as along the Mogollon Rim in AZ and NM. This will depending on how
    much instability and forcing remains associated with the remnants=20
    of Mario. Otherwise, the previous discussion remains valid.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Northern Plains to Mississippi Valley...

    Our occluded low will continue to churn across the northern CONUS
    with another round of convection forecast on the eastern flank of
    the remnant cyclone. The threat is forecast to wane compared to the
    previous periods, but there is still a general MRGL risk for flash
    flooding in any cells that develop from the Mid to Upper-
    Mississippi Valley. Models are still all over the place in location
    and magnitude, but the premise of the environment remaining
    favorable for the threat warranted a continuation of the MRGL risk
    from previous forecasts.

    ...Western U.S...

    Elevated moisture from remnants of Mario will linger and allow for
    scattered to widespread convection to materialize over the
    Southwestern U.S. and over portions of the Sierra's of CA. Pending
    the mid-level evolution of the energy from Mario bleeding into D3,
    a heavier precip threat is possible, but not anticipated at this
    time. The setup should be able to adequately shear any mid-level
    vorticity leading to a less pronounced setup regionally. Still, the
    moisture anomalies and expected instability presence will allow for
    at least widely scattered flash flood concerns heading into the end
    of the week and early weekend. A MRGL risk remains for the
    Southwest and the California Sierra's.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    A chance for lingering heavy rainfall across southeast FL near
    Miami remains within the means, enough to warrant a maintenance
    of the inherited MRGL risk. It will really come down to finer
    mesoscale details and timing of when the incessant shortwave energy
    progression vacates the area. For now, there's enough to keep what
    was forecast prior, but will assess as we get closer in time. The
    area is small in spatial coverage, so there's a chance it is
    removed, or expanded once more CAMs windows shed light on the
    setup.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_1cvpfKDgweNcL4lCCgkNIXBc85QnQoWhj_12tS-TpQ6= -Yb2CGPgbHr6BhHvQNIZnw9Fdsk2-JPvuYLJ4__xik8tJEY$=20
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    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    855 PM EDT Wed Sep 17 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Thu Sep 18 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PARTS OF SOUTH
    DAKOTA...

    ...Central Plains...

    ...0100 UTC Update...
    Based on the latest observational trends with the TROWAL, including
    latest mesoanalysis from SPC, along with the recent HRRRs and
    HREF/RRFS rainfall exceedance probabilities, have shifted the
    Slight Risk area a bit farther east in SD for the overnight period.
    Within the Slight Risk area is where the 18Z HREF probabilities of
    exceeding 3" are highest (>40%).=20

    A slow-moving surface low with at least some tap into some Gulf=20
    moisture is moving across central Nebraska this midday. Wraparound=20
    bands of rain are presently north to west of the circulation=20
    center, over central and western South Dakota. With daytime heating
    and advection, some instability is expected to work into the=20
    circulation, especially southern portions of the rainfall shield.=20
    Any convection will be capable of locally heavier rainfall rates.=20
    Since the overall circulation is nearly stationary, so too is the=20
    comma-head band of rainfall. Thus, expect a long-duration light to=20
    moderate rain to continue across this region well into tonight.=20
    Embedded convection locally enhancing rainfall rates should result=20
    in widely scattered instances of flash flooding.

    Further east however into Minnesota and Iowa, there will be more
    convection, but that convection will be faster moving, resulting in
    less total rainfall. Thus, the Marginal Risk remains in place. From
    central Minnesota into Wisconsin, a similarly slow-moving attendant
    warm front may also cause isolated flash flooding, where slow-
    moving convection fed by the southerly flow of moisture and
    instability could also result in highly localized areas of much
    higher rainfall totals and isolated flash flooding.

    ...South Florida...

    Very slow-moving but highly efficient areas of convection are
    ongoing in and around much of South Florida, including the Keys.
    There is a distinct possibility that one or more of those very slow
    moving cells could stall over one or more of Keys today, which
    could cause localized ponding. Thus, a Marginal Risk was added. For
    mainland Florida, the main flooding hazard would be confined to
    the urban I-95 corridor from Melbourne south. It will also be for
    the possibility of slow moving convection, perhaps along any
    localized cold pool boundaries or sea breezes.


    ...Southern High Plains...

    Multi-round convective episode anticipated across the southeast CO
    Front Range down into the OK/TX Panhandles and adjacent northeast
    NM beginning later this afternoon, carrying through the evening
    hours. Lee side low over eastern CO/western KS will materialize
    within the broad synoptic scale evolution occurring over the center
    of the CONUS. A trailing cold front will drag south and southwest
    through the above areas with an initial flare up of convective
    activity this afternoon along the front creating a moment of
    priming before a larger shortwave ejecting out of the Central
    Rockies becomes the focus for later. Models are in agreement on
    quite a strong mid-level vorticity ejection into the Front Range
    late-afternoon and early evening today leading to a blossoming
    convective initiation in-of the terrain just west of I-25 in
    southeast CO. Storms will grow upscale and migrate eastward into
    the Front Range, continuing to slide east-southeast as they deliver
    locally heavy rainfall in their wake leading to an isolated to
    scattered flash flood concern through the second half of the
    forecast. This setup has been documented in some way over the past
    several forecast iterations, but the threat is now clear in the
    main show focused within the strong mid-level ascent pattern
    generated by the shortwave rounding the trough base. Expect
    localized totals of 2-3" in the hardest hit locations with a max of
    up to 4" across the far southeast corner of CO down into the
    northern TX Panhandle. This is reflected by the modest >3"
    neighborhood probabilities in the latest 00z HREF suite, a solid
    indicator for a MRGL risk maintenance from previous forecasts.

    ...Southwest...

    ...0100 UTC Update...
    Moisture from what was Tropical Cyclone Mario has surged north of
    the international border a bit faster than prior expectations.
    PWATs are nearing 2.00" per the latest SPC mesoanalysis across
    parts of far southern CA-AZ, with a 1.86" observed PWAT at KNKX.
    Moreover, mixed-layer CAPEs have been on the rise across southern
    AZ over the past 3 hours southern AZ per the SPC mesoanalysis. We
    expanded the Marginal Risk area into southwest AZ and far southern
    CA based on some of these thermodynamical/mesoanalysis trends,
    which lines up well with what we're seeing from the latest
    satellite loops and mosaic radar imagery.=20
    =20
    Hurley/Wegman/Kleebauer

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF
    SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA...

    ...2030Z Update...

    ...Southwest...

    In coordination with SGX/San Diego, CA; LOX/Oxnard, CA; VEF/Las
    Vegas, NV; PSR/Phoenix, AZ; and HNX/Hanford, CA forecast offices, a
    Slight Risk upgrade has been issued for much of Southern
    California and the Arizona side of the Colorado River. The mid-
    level remnants of Mario are making their way north up the coast.
    They are advecting abundant tropical moisture along with them, with
    PWATs well over 1.5 inches at and along the coast. This is at least
    4 sigma above normal for this time of year. Thus, this amount of
    moisture is highly anomalous for this part of the country. In
    addition to the moisture, significant instability will also be
    present, with a rough average of the CAMs suggesting there will be
    over 1,000 J/kg of CAPE in much of southern California Thursday
    afternoon. Finally, the mid-level circulation center, while fully
    detached from the now dissipated low level circulation of Mario,
    will itself remain strong enough to provide adequate forcing for
    shower and thunderstorm activity across much of southern
    California. Expect any thunderstorm activity to be capable of 1
    inch per hour rainfall rates, locally higher in favorable terrain
    areas.

    Working against any flooding will be the fast storm motion and
    potential for cloud cover to stabilize the lower atmosphere. Clouds
    will increase along and ahead of the low center, and where clouds
    are, the sun will be blocked, which will limit the daytime heating
    necessary to locally increase instability values. There is high
    uncertainty as to how much cloud cover there will be in between the
    storms. More cloud cover will mean lower chances for flash
    flooding. Further, with the circulation of Mario continuing to
    track north, expect any storms over California to be moving along
    Thursday afternoon. This should in most cases limit the potential
    for flooding. However, conditions are also favorable for training
    of storms, so while no one storm is likely to stall out over a
    given area, the combination of multiple storms appears likely. This
    event appears to be a low-confidence but high impact event. This
    means while the chance of flooding in any one area remains low,
    there will likely be multiple instances where heavy rain from
    training storms impacts a given area, resulting in flooding.

    ...Plains...

    No significant changes were made to the Marginal Risk area across
    the Plains. A slow-moving front may provide the forcing for more
    widespread storms from eastern Oklahoma north into the Dakotas, but
    the signal for heavy rain is low given the potential for the storms
    are moving quickly or that there is less coverage of storms.
    Meanwhile into eastern ND, the maximum of QPF is likely from a
    long-duration stratiform rain, which should only cause isolated
    flooding impacts.

    Wegman


    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central U.S...

    Broad occlusion will be taking shape across the Central CONUS with
    locally heavy rainfall potential focused within the residual axis
    of deformation across the Dakotas, as well as along the progression
    of the cold front from MN down into the Southern Plains. Guidance
    is all over the place with the exact placement of relevant QPF
    maxima, however the ensemble means still emphasize the potential
    within these zones referenced above. Expectation is for multiple
    storm clusters to aid in the threat with some places likely to see
    2-4" inches thanks to the +1 to +2 deviation PWATs situated from OK
    up through the Upper Midwest and Northern Plains. Environment
    favors rate potential of 1-2"/hr in any cell within the WCB as
    general buoyancy should spur several thunderstorms along and ahead
    of the front as it migrates into the Mississippi Valley. As we get
    closer in time, it's plausible to have a targeted upgrade, or two,
    so it will be a period to monitor.

    ...Southwest U.S...

    Remnant moisture from post-tropical cyclone Mario will advect
    poleward with California generally in the cross-hairs for elevated
    moisture to move into the southern half of the state during the end
    of the D1 into D2 time frame. Energy from Mario will lag the
    initial low to mid- level moisture surge, but eventually will enter
    into the area by the late-morning hrs. Thursday. Models are pretty
    consistent in the meridional push of elevated moisture leading to scattered/widespread convection forming across much of SoCal,
    especially the lower deserts and terrain focused areas from Big Sur
    down into the Transverse and Peninsular ranges. It will be
    important to monitor the progression of the remnant mid-level
    energy as a more consolidated vorticity maxima would likely cause a
    period of enhanced, focused rainfall in-of the coastal terrain
    north of Los Angeles. As of now, the setup favors the energy
    becoming increasingly sheared with a more scattered convective
    depiction in the precip field. 00z ECMWF shows what could transpire
    with a more consolidated vorticity maxima with a stripe of heavy
    rainfall aligned south to north which would easily necessitate a
    risk area higher than the current MRGL in place. With PWATs likely
    to surge to 1.7-2.0", rainfall rates >1"/hr are certainly possible,
    a threshold that historically has caused localized flooding to some
    degree, leading to totals of 1-3" with room for higher if
    everything breaks unfavorably for the region. This is something to
    monitor as we step closer in time, but for now the threat is deemed
    a MRGL with a chance at an upgrade as we move further into the CAMs
    window for a better assessment on potential precip maxima.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    General persistence in the pattern across southern FL with elevated
    PWATs and streaming mid-level vorticity plaguing the region leading
    to scattered bouts of heavy rainfall within any convective
    development. The area of interest remains centered on the urban
    corridor from Melbourne to Miami just due to the repeated nature of
    convection and the lower FFG's aligned within the urbanization
    footprint. Models are still everywhere in the placement of the
    heaviest precip, some just offshore, and others hitting the Keys
    and southern peninsula pretty hard over the course of D1 and D2.
    Considering the environmental factors and continuity in the
    pattern, maintaining the previous MRGL risk is more than sufficient
    for the setup. Little to no change was necessary given the 00z NWP
    output.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS, MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY, SOUTHWEST U.S.,
    CENTRAL SIERRA NEVADAS, AND SOUTHEAST FLORIDA...

    ...2030Z Update...

    No significant changes were made anywhere in the country. Much of
    the flooding risk in each of the Marginal Risk areas is tied to
    where and how numerous any clusters/complexes of storms develop,
    which remain highly uncertain. It appears probable with improving
    signal that a future Slight Risk may be needed in some areas, such
    as along the Mogollon Rim in AZ and NM. This will depending on how
    much instability and forcing remains associated with the remnants
    of Mario. Otherwise, the previous discussion remains valid.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Northern Plains to Mississippi Valley...

    Our occluded low will continue to churn across the northern CONUS
    with another round of convection forecast on the eastern flank of
    the remnant cyclone. The threat is forecast to wane compared to the
    previous periods, but there is still a general MRGL risk for flash
    flooding in any cells that develop from the Mid to Upper-
    Mississippi Valley. Models are still all over the place in location
    and magnitude, but the premise of the environment remaining
    favorable for the threat warranted a continuation of the MRGL risk
    from previous forecasts.

    ...Western U.S...

    Elevated moisture from remnants of Mario will linger and allow for
    scattered to widespread convection to materialize over the
    Southwestern U.S. and over portions of the Sierra's of CA. Pending
    the mid-level evolution of the energy from Mario bleeding into D3,
    a heavier precip threat is possible, but not anticipated at this
    time. The setup should be able to adequately shear any mid-level
    vorticity leading to a less pronounced setup regionally. Still, the
    moisture anomalies and expected instability presence will allow for
    at least widely scattered flash flood concerns heading into the end
    of the week and early weekend. A MRGL risk remains for the
    Southwest and the California Sierra's.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    A chance for lingering heavy rainfall across southeast FL near
    Miami remains within the means, enough to warrant a maintenance
    of the inherited MRGL risk. It will really come down to finer
    mesoscale details and timing of when the incessant shortwave energy
    progression vacates the area. For now, there's enough to keep what
    was forecast prior, but will assess as we get closer in time. The
    area is small in spatial coverage, so there's a chance it is
    removed, or expanded once more CAMs windows shed light on the
    setup.

    Kleebauer


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    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_dQEIB0Ru-GDIPxZH6OyQl-50L2lTekGIBQTjcHGbuLZ= kTVApJjQddSEZY3x8TWJRtF1dZNR_HsoK__6Q7a43fHT2JE$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 180802
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    402 AM EDT Thu Sep 18 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 18 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF
    SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND SOUTHWESTERN ARIZONA...

    ...Southwest U.S...

    Remnant moisture from post-tropical cyclone Mario will continue to advect poleward with California firmly in the cross-hairs for elevated=20
    moisture (PWATs 2-4 deviations above normal) to move into the=20
    southern half of the state during the entirety of the D1 period.=20
    Energy from Mario will lag the initial low to mid-level moisture=20
    surge, but eventually will enter into the area by the late-morning=20
    hours today, prompting an uptick in the areal coverage of=20
    convection over the southern half of the state into the Lower=20
    Colorado Basin between CA/AZ. The last succession of HREF runs,
    including this evenings 00z suite was pretty pronounced in the
    indication of precip totals between 2-4" potentially impacting some
    of the coastal ranges of CA into the adjacent valley just north of
    the Transverse and Peninsular Ranges. There's also a pretty good
    indication of scattered to widespread convective development later
    this morning, through the afternoon period across the lower deserts
    of southeast CA to the neighboring Colorado Basin at the CA/AZ
    line. This was the area of greatest change when it came to the
    magnitude of the signal when assessing the run to run differences
    over the past iterations of the HREF suite. Ensemble bias corrected
    QPF was also adjusted upward from its previous forecasts across the aforementioned area, a testament to the improving signature for=20
    local flash flood prospects in that general area. HREF neighborhood
    probs for >1" across the deserts are upward of 50-80% now with=20
    70-90+% located within the Transverse and Peninsular Ranges during=20
    the period, a reflection of the heightened threat for at least=20
    moderate rainfall, enough to spur high runoff concerns in the=20
    terrain with several burn scars still present in-of those mountain=20
    chains. Rates will be sufficient considering the deep moist=20
    environment brought on by the advection of the tropical moisture=20
    flux involved with Mario, another reason for the threat to be=20
    leaning towards the higher side as elevated rates are a significant
    driver to flash flooding historically across CA.=20

    The previous SLGT was expanded a bit to account for the trends in
    hi-res guidance and the conditioning of the environment favoring
    the higher moisture anomalies being advected further north into CA.
    The threat is on the higher end of the SLGT threshold with the
    "saving grace" in this entire setup being the more progressive mean
    flow helping push everything through in relatively faster time than
    what is customary for higher level risks. That still doesn't deter
    the fact that scattered flash flood prospects are becoming more
    certain in the the areas outlined in the SLGT risk with a potential
    for targeted upgrade plausible if conditions warrant.=20

    ...Central U.S...

    Current WV satellite depicts a broad upper low (ULL) with the center
    positioned over SD with a surface low analyzed almost underneath=20
    the ULL meaning the confidence in an occlusion process beginning=20
    soon is very high. Once we see the occlusion phase begin, we'll see
    the slow degradation of the prominent deformation field across the
    Dakotas over the course of the forecast leading to decreasing=20
    rates and expected totals compared to what transpired the period=20
    prior. As a result, flash flooding concerns will be relatively=20
    isolated given the more stratiform rain process with the convective
    threat positioned further east into the Mississippi Valley. 00z=20
    HREF was not very robust for heavy rain prospects in any one area,=20
    but there were several locations that will stand to benefit from=20
    locally heavier convection as the cold front continues to migrate=20
    eastward and drive a broad surface ascent pattern downstream of the
    low. A few stronger mid-level vorticity maxima will help amplify=20
    the threat in a few areas, mainly in the Missouri and Mid-
    Mississippi Valleys later this afternoon as a stronger mid-level=20
    shortwave continues to propagate into the region from its overnight
    trajectory. HREF blended mean QPF distribution outlines this area=20
    fairly well and matches with the modest >3" probabilities situated=20
    over eastern OK up into MO. Overall, the entire setup with a slowly
    decaying, or steady state low will contribute just another period=20
    of widely scattered flash flood prospects from the Northern Plains=20
    over and through the northern two-thirds of the Mississippi Valley.
    The previous MRGL was general maintained with some adjustments=20
    based on the latest hi-res ensemble probs and blended mean QPF=20
    footprint.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    PWATs across south FL remain elevated with KEYW and KMFL both
    coming in with values of 2.08" and 2.19", respectively meaning the
    deep layer moisture forecast the past several days is firmly
    entrenched over the region. Several shortwave perturbations will
    advect northeast out of the Florida Straits and nearby Cuba with
    the presence of a Cuban outflow being picked up in the radar/sat
    composite over the past few hours. This is actually well-forecast
    via some of the CAMs suite, a likely indicator that the future
    trends within the models probably hold merit for a threat of heavy
    rain to cross into the Key and the southern Peninsula in the early
    morning hours. As the boundary migrates to the northeast, expect
    copious showers/storms to gallivant through the area dropping
    locally enhanced rainfall with rates between 2-3"/hr pretty much a
    given in a few of the convective cores just due to the environment
    in place. Models are still in flux on the exact locations of where
    heavier rain will occur, but the neighborhood probs for >3" running
    between 50-80% and >5" between 25-35% across both the Keys and
    southeast FL are sufficient for a continuation of the previous MRGL
    risk through the forecast cycle. Will monitor closely for potential
    targeted upgrades, but the setup is certainly favoring at least
    isolated flash flood potential within those two corridors,
    particularly more urban zones due to impervious surface runoff.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE
    CENTRAL SIERRA NEVADA AND CENTRAL VALLEY OF CALIFORNIA...

    ...California...

    Remnant energy from what is left over from Mario will pivot up into
    Central CA early Friday allowing for a continuation of heavy
    rainfall prospects over the region as PWATs surge to between 3-4
    deviations above normal. Guidance is keying on prevailing upslope
    flow and focused ascent within the Central Sierra of CA with a
    myriad of thunderstorms lingering in the Central Valley. The
    environmental conditions favor locally enhanced convective cores
    which could spell problems for those towns in the valleys, as well
    as runoff in the terrain. HREF neighborhood probs for >1" are very
    high (70-90%) within the above areas with mainly modest >2" probs
    centered over the Central Valley and adjacent Sierra foothills.
    Considering some overlap of heavy rain from D1 into D2, the threat
    seems worthy of a targeted upgrade in these two zones to account
    for the continued risk bleeding from period to period. The good
    news is the setup looks to wane the second half of the forecast
    cycle as energy pushes out of the region and we see a slow
    improvement in the moisture anomalies. This would spell the end=20
    for the threat of flash flooding and much of the rain prospects.=20

    ...Southwest...

    Moisture increases across all of the Southwest CONUS will aid in
    favorable environmental conditions for locally heavy convective
    rainfall during the period of diurnal heating on Friday into early
    Saturday. HREF mean QPF is relatively tame overall, but some of the
    CAMs are more robust in their depictions of isolated 2+" totals,
    especially across the Mogollon Rim and Southeast AZ terrain leading
    to a broad MRGL risk maintenance from previous forecast. The=20
    threat for flash flooding will likely lie as far north as the=20
    I-70/15 junction and points west over UT/NV with slot canyons and=20
    dry arroyos as the primary targets for flash flooding as is=20
    customary in these setups. The threat for a targeted upgrade is on=20
    the table, but will need to assess the evolution of the mid-level=20
    vorticity maxima ejecting out of CA to the east over the course of=20
    time. The most favored areas will likely be those outlined above.=20
    For now, the MRGL risk will suffice.

    ...Mississippi Valley to ArkLaTex...

    Occluded low over the Upper Midwest will continue to spin with a
    dumbbelling mid-level shortwave pivoting southeast out of the
    Dakotas allowing for a secondary broad ascent pattern to
    materialize downstream over the Mississippi Valley. To the south,
    thunderstorms will fire along a decaying front positioned over the Mid-Mississippi Valley down into the ArkLaTex with ample
    instability and moisture to fuel another isolated flash flood
    threat when assessing individual CAMs and ensemble bias corrected
    outputs. The threat is similar to the previous period, perhaps even
    a touch less robust considering the occlusion phase well in
    progress by this point in the forecast. Overall, this threat was
    deemed enough for a broad MRGL risk to stay in place, but there's
    some potential for a targeted upgrade, pending better overlap from
    model guidance on any particular area from TX to the Upper Midwest.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    The southeast coast of Florida will be hanging on to the last bit=20
    of remaining anomalous moisture as the pattern starts to shift away
    from persistence of the preceding three periods. The MRGL was=20
    maintained given some of the guidance hanging on to heavier=20
    convection right along the coast with modest probabilities for >3"=20
    lingering from Miami up to Daytona Beach. That was enough to=20
    maintain continuity of a MRGL for at least one more period.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE MISSOURI VALLEY...

    ...Central U.S...

    Shortwave ejection out of the Great Basin/Four Corners area will
    migrate into the Central and Southern Plains by Saturday afternoon
    providing a more focused large scale ascent pattern during peak
    diurnal instability. Ensemble means are relatively modest in their
    QPF distribution and magnitude, signaling 1-2" of rainfall
    currently in their depictions. Individual deterministic is
    certainly a little more robust, but nothing that would promote a
    more substantial risk. This correlates well with moisture anomalies
    hovering between normal and +1 deviations when assessing the latest
    NAEFS meaning the threat is warranted, but well-within the
    threshold of a MRGL risk. As a result, kept the previous MRGL risk
    and expanded to account for some uncertainty in the spatial
    coverage of expected convection by this time frame.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4SCrDg_BEMyaEQhnl-Bjn3G2ynGRR19eRrUVwPRe-JnT= daWOvwmRsrdsfWlvyBlxk-lP4rXQujD5k1krjMFL6UFjHis$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4SCrDg_BEMyaEQhnl-Bjn3G2ynGRR19eRrUVwPRe-JnT= daWOvwmRsrdsfWlvyBlxk-lP4rXQujD5k1krjMFLXfsQAUY$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4SCrDg_BEMyaEQhnl-Bjn3G2ynGRR19eRrUVwPRe-JnT= daWOvwmRsrdsfWlvyBlxk-lP4rXQujD5k1krjMFLYY4lod8$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Sep 18 15:51:00 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 181550
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1150 AM EDT Thu Sep 18 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu Sep 18 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF
    SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND SOUTHWESTERN ARIZONA...

    ...Southwest U.S...

    The previous discussion is largely in good shape for this=20
    morning's update. No substantial updates to the ERO for Day 1 were=20
    needed as the impressive moisture continues to advect northward=20
    into the region which along with an axis of instability develops=20
    bringing a greater risk of heavy rainfall and flash flooding=20
    potential today.=20

    ---previous discussion---

    Remnant moisture from post-tropical cyclone Mario will continue to advect poleward with California firmly in the cross-hairs for elevated
    moisture (PWATs 2-4 deviations above normal) to move into the
    southern half of the state during the entirety of the D1 period.
    Energy from Mario will lag the initial low to mid-level moisture
    surge, but eventually will enter into the area by the late-morning
    hours today, prompting an uptick in the areal coverage of
    convection over the southern half of the state into the Lower
    Colorado Basin between CA/AZ. The last succession of HREF runs,
    including this evenings 00z suite was pretty pronounced in the
    indication of precip totals between 2-4" potentially impacting some
    of the coastal ranges of CA into the adjacent valley just north of
    the Transverse and Peninsular Ranges. There's also a pretty good
    indication of scattered to widespread convective development later
    this morning, through the afternoon period across the lower deserts
    of southeast CA to the neighboring Colorado Basin at the CA/AZ
    line. This was the area of greatest change when it came to the
    magnitude of the signal when assessing the run to run differences
    over the past iterations of the HREF suite. Ensemble bias corrected
    QPF was also adjusted upward from its previous forecasts across the aforementioned area, a testament to the improving signature for
    local flash flood prospects in that general area. HREF neighborhood
    probs for >1" across the deserts are upward of 50-80% now with
    70-90+% located within the Transverse and Peninsular Ranges during
    the period, a reflection of the heightened threat for at least
    moderate rainfall, enough to spur high runoff concerns in the
    terrain with several burn scars still present in-of those mountain
    chains. Rates will be sufficient considering the deep moist
    environment brought on by the advection of the tropical moisture
    flux involved with Mario, another reason for the threat to be
    leaning towards the higher side as elevated rates are a significant
    driver to flash flooding historically across CA.

    The previous SLGT was expanded a bit to account for the trends in
    hi-res guidance and the conditioning of the environment favoring
    the higher moisture anomalies being advected further north into CA.
    The threat is on the higher end of the SLGT threshold with the
    "saving grace" in this entire setup being the more progressive mean
    flow helping push everything through in relatively faster time than
    what is customary for higher level risks. That still doesn't deter
    the fact that scattered flash flood prospects are becoming more
    certain in the the areas outlined in the SLGT risk with a potential
    for targeted upgrade plausible if conditions warrant.

    ...Central U.S...

    16Z Update:=20

    For this update, still think the flash flood risk is fairly
    isolated across the Northern Plains and Upper Midwest given the
    relative lack of deep instability, however the dynamical support
    may allow for some embedded stronger cores of locally intense
    rainfall. To the south across KS/MO/OK/AR, greater instability
    should promote more intense rain rates, but coverage of convection
    and whether it will be enough to cause flooding issues is more
    uncertain. For now, maintained the Marginal Risk area largely
    unchanged, aside from some adjustments on the western edges based
    on current activity but the next update may be able to make more=20
    greater adjustments.=20

    Taylor

    ---previous discussion---

    Current WV satellite depicts a broad upper low (ULL) with the center
    positioned over SD with a surface low analyzed almost underneath
    the ULL meaning the confidence in an occlusion process beginning
    soon is very high. Once we see the occlusion phase begin, we'll see
    the slow degradation of the prominent deformation field across the
    Dakotas over the course of the forecast leading to decreasing
    rates and expected totals compared to what transpired the period
    prior. As a result, flash flooding concerns will be relatively
    isolated given the more stratiform rain process with the convective
    threat positioned further east into the Mississippi Valley. 00z
    HREF was not very robust for heavy rain prospects in any one area,
    but there were several locations that will stand to benefit from
    locally heavier convection as the cold front continues to migrate
    eastward and drive a broad surface ascent pattern downstream of the
    low. A few stronger mid-level vorticity maxima will help amplify
    the threat in a few areas, mainly in the Missouri and Mid-
    Mississippi Valleys later this afternoon as a stronger mid-level
    shortwave continues to propagate into the region from its overnight
    trajectory. HREF blended mean QPF distribution outlines this area
    fairly well and matches with the modest >3" probabilities situated
    over eastern OK up into MO. Overall, the entire setup with a slowly
    decaying, or steady state low will contribute just another period
    of widely scattered flash flood prospects from the Northern Plains
    over and through the northern two-thirds of the Mississippi Valley.
    The previous MRGL was general maintained with some adjustments
    based on the latest hi-res ensemble probs and blended mean QPF
    footprint.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    16Z Update: Some drier is working eastward across the Keys this
    morning, evident by the 12Z sounding from Key West which showed
    substantial dry, stable layer from near the surface to around 700
    mb. Current radar imagery suggests most of the intense activity has
    waned and/or is mainly offshore, and the 12Z hi-res guidance is
    less bullish on a widespread heavy rainfall day. As a result, the
    risk area was removed from the Keys. However, there is enough=20
    support in the guidance and environmental ingredients to maintain=20
    the Marginal Risk over southeast Florida in the most urbanized=20
    corridor.=20

    Taylor

    ---previous discussion---

    PWATs across south FL remain elevated with KEYW and KMFL both
    coming in with values of 2.08" and 2.19", respectively meaning the
    deep layer moisture forecast the past several days is firmly
    entrenched over the region. Several shortwave perturbations will
    advect northeast out of the Florida Straits and nearby Cuba with
    the presence of a Cuban outflow being picked up in the radar/sat
    composite over the past few hours. This is actually well-forecast
    via some of the CAMs suite, a likely indicator that the future
    trends within the models probably hold merit for a threat of heavy
    rain to cross into the Key and the southern Peninsula in the early
    morning hours. As the boundary migrates to the northeast, expect
    copious showers/storms to gallivant through the area dropping
    locally enhanced rainfall with rates between 2-3"/hr pretty much a
    given in a few of the convective cores just due to the environment
    in place. Models are still in flux on the exact locations of where
    heavier rain will occur, but the neighborhood probs for >3" running
    between 50-80% and >5" between 25-35% across both the Keys and
    southeast FL are sufficient for a continuation of the previous MRGL
    risk through the forecast cycle. Will monitor closely for potential
    targeted upgrades, but the setup is certainly favoring at least
    isolated flash flood potential within those two corridors,
    particularly more urban zones due to impervious surface runoff.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE
    CENTRAL SIERRA NEVADA AND CENTRAL VALLEY OF CALIFORNIA...

    ...California...

    Remnant energy from what is left over from Mario will pivot up into
    Central CA early Friday allowing for a continuation of heavy
    rainfall prospects over the region as PWATs surge to between 3-4
    deviations above normal. Guidance is keying on prevailing upslope
    flow and focused ascent within the Central Sierra of CA with a
    myriad of thunderstorms lingering in the Central Valley. The
    environmental conditions favor locally enhanced convective cores
    which could spell problems for those towns in the valleys, as well
    as runoff in the terrain. HREF neighborhood probs for >1" are very
    high (70-90%) within the above areas with mainly modest >2" probs
    centered over the Central Valley and adjacent Sierra foothills.
    Considering some overlap of heavy rain from D1 into D2, the threat
    seems worthy of a targeted upgrade in these two zones to account
    for the continued risk bleeding from period to period. The good
    news is the setup looks to wane the second half of the forecast
    cycle as energy pushes out of the region and we see a slow
    improvement in the moisture anomalies. This would spell the end
    for the threat of flash flooding and much of the rain prospects.

    ...Southwest...

    Moisture increases across all of the Southwest CONUS will aid in
    favorable environmental conditions for locally heavy convective
    rainfall during the period of diurnal heating on Friday into early
    Saturday. HREF mean QPF is relatively tame overall, but some of the
    CAMs are more robust in their depictions of isolated 2+" totals,
    especially across the Mogollon Rim and Southeast AZ terrain leading
    to a broad MRGL risk maintenance from previous forecast. The
    threat for flash flooding will likely lie as far north as the
    I-70/15 junction and points west over UT/NV with slot canyons and
    dry arroyos as the primary targets for flash flooding as is
    customary in these setups. The threat for a targeted upgrade is on
    the table, but will need to assess the evolution of the mid-level
    vorticity maxima ejecting out of CA to the east over the course of
    time. The most favored areas will likely be those outlined above.
    For now, the MRGL risk will suffice.

    ...Mississippi Valley to ArkLaTex...

    Occluded low over the Upper Midwest will continue to spin with a
    dumbbelling mid-level shortwave pivoting southeast out of the
    Dakotas allowing for a secondary broad ascent pattern to
    materialize downstream over the Mississippi Valley. To the south,
    thunderstorms will fire along a decaying front positioned over the Mid-Mississippi Valley down into the ArkLaTex with ample
    instability and moisture to fuel another isolated flash flood
    threat when assessing individual CAMs and ensemble bias corrected
    outputs. The threat is similar to the previous period, perhaps even
    a touch less robust considering the occlusion phase well in
    progress by this point in the forecast. Overall, this threat was
    deemed enough for a broad MRGL risk to stay in place, but there's
    some potential for a targeted upgrade, pending better overlap from
    model guidance on any particular area from TX to the Upper Midwest.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    The southeast coast of Florida will be hanging on to the last bit
    of remaining anomalous moisture as the pattern starts to shift away
    from persistence of the preceding three periods. The MRGL was
    maintained given some of the guidance hanging on to heavier
    convection right along the coast with modest probabilities for >3"
    lingering from Miami up to Daytona Beach. That was enough to
    maintain continuity of a MRGL for at least one more period.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE MISSOURI VALLEY...

    ...Central U.S...

    Shortwave ejection out of the Great Basin/Four Corners area will
    migrate into the Central and Southern Plains by Saturday afternoon
    providing a more focused large scale ascent pattern during peak
    diurnal instability. Ensemble means are relatively modest in their
    QPF distribution and magnitude, signaling 1-2" of rainfall
    currently in their depictions. Individual deterministic is
    certainly a little more robust, but nothing that would promote a
    more substantial risk. This correlates well with moisture anomalies
    hovering between normal and +1 deviations when assessing the latest
    NAEFS meaning the threat is warranted, but well-within the
    threshold of a MRGL risk. As a result, kept the previous MRGL risk
    and expanded to account for some uncertainty in the spatial
    coverage of expected convection by this time frame.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-dKZvbgU6fTxbR--Zv_ItwcAubVxSxQk9IPptIBR7wwn= mRPbYx_UlhCaWLOo5STwoPihZ1HpEmvSnnSsmnVbs5JQMs0$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-dKZvbgU6fTxbR--Zv_ItwcAubVxSxQk9IPptIBR7wwn= mRPbYx_UlhCaWLOo5STwoPihZ1HpEmvSnnSsmnVbVgr67ww$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-dKZvbgU6fTxbR--Zv_ItwcAubVxSxQk9IPptIBR7wwn= mRPbYx_UlhCaWLOo5STwoPihZ1HpEmvSnnSsmnVbvZ1z0QQ$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 181930
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    330 PM EDT Thu Sep 18 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu Sep 18 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF
    SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND SOUTHWESTERN ARIZONA...

    ...Southwest U.S...

    The previous discussion is largely in good shape for this
    morning's update. No substantial updates to the ERO for Day 1 were
    needed as the impressive moisture continues to advect northward
    into the region which along with an axis of instability develops
    bringing a greater risk of heavy rainfall and flash flooding
    potential today.

    ---previous discussion---

    Remnant moisture from post-tropical cyclone Mario will continue to advect poleward with California firmly in the cross-hairs for elevated
    moisture (PWATs 2-4 deviations above normal) to move into the
    southern half of the state during the entirety of the D1 period.
    Energy from Mario will lag the initial low to mid-level moisture
    surge, but eventually will enter into the area by the late-morning
    hours today, prompting an uptick in the areal coverage of
    convection over the southern half of the state into the Lower
    Colorado Basin between CA/AZ. The last succession of HREF runs,
    including this evenings 00z suite was pretty pronounced in the
    indication of precip totals between 2-4" potentially impacting some
    of the coastal ranges of CA into the adjacent valley just north of
    the Transverse and Peninsular Ranges. There's also a pretty good
    indication of scattered to widespread convective development later
    this morning, through the afternoon period across the lower deserts
    of southeast CA to the neighboring Colorado Basin at the CA/AZ
    line. This was the area of greatest change when it came to the
    magnitude of the signal when assessing the run to run differences
    over the past iterations of the HREF suite. Ensemble bias corrected
    QPF was also adjusted upward from its previous forecasts across the aforementioned area, a testament to the improving signature for
    local flash flood prospects in that general area. HREF neighborhood
    probs for >1" across the deserts are upward of 50-80% now with
    70-90+% located within the Transverse and Peninsular Ranges during
    the period, a reflection of the heightened threat for at least
    moderate rainfall, enough to spur high runoff concerns in the
    terrain with several burn scars still present in-of those mountain
    chains. Rates will be sufficient considering the deep moist
    environment brought on by the advection of the tropical moisture
    flux involved with Mario, another reason for the threat to be
    leaning towards the higher side as elevated rates are a significant
    driver to flash flooding historically across CA.

    The previous SLGT was expanded a bit to account for the trends in
    hi-res guidance and the conditioning of the environment favoring
    the higher moisture anomalies being advected further north into CA.
    The threat is on the higher end of the SLGT threshold with the
    "saving grace" in this entire setup being the more progressive mean
    flow helping push everything through in relatively faster time than
    what is customary for higher level risks. That still doesn't deter
    the fact that scattered flash flood prospects are becoming more
    certain in the the areas outlined in the SLGT risk with a potential
    for targeted upgrade plausible if conditions warrant.

    ...Central U.S...

    16Z Update:

    For this update, still think the flash flood risk is fairly
    isolated across the Northern Plains and Upper Midwest given the
    relative lack of deep instability, however the dynamical support
    may allow for some embedded stronger cores of locally intense
    rainfall. To the south across KS/MO/OK/AR, greater instability
    should promote more intense rain rates, but coverage of convection
    and whether it will be enough to cause flooding issues is more
    uncertain. For now, maintained the Marginal Risk area largely
    unchanged, aside from some adjustments on the western edges based
    on current activity but the next update may be able to make more
    greater adjustments.

    Taylor

    ---previous discussion---

    Current WV satellite depicts a broad upper low (ULL) with the center
    positioned over SD with a surface low analyzed almost underneath
    the ULL meaning the confidence in an occlusion process beginning
    soon is very high. Once we see the occlusion phase begin, we'll see
    the slow degradation of the prominent deformation field across the
    Dakotas over the course of the forecast leading to decreasing
    rates and expected totals compared to what transpired the period
    prior. As a result, flash flooding concerns will be relatively
    isolated given the more stratiform rain process with the convective
    threat positioned further east into the Mississippi Valley. 00z
    HREF was not very robust for heavy rain prospects in any one area,
    but there were several locations that will stand to benefit from
    locally heavier convection as the cold front continues to migrate
    eastward and drive a broad surface ascent pattern downstream of the
    low. A few stronger mid-level vorticity maxima will help amplify
    the threat in a few areas, mainly in the Missouri and Mid-
    Mississippi Valleys later this afternoon as a stronger mid-level
    shortwave continues to propagate into the region from its overnight
    trajectory. HREF blended mean QPF distribution outlines this area
    fairly well and matches with the modest >3" probabilities situated
    over eastern OK up into MO. Overall, the entire setup with a slowly
    decaying, or steady state low will contribute just another period
    of widely scattered flash flood prospects from the Northern Plains
    over and through the northern two-thirds of the Mississippi Valley.
    The previous MRGL was general maintained with some adjustments
    based on the latest hi-res ensemble probs and blended mean QPF
    footprint.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    16Z Update: Some drier is working eastward across the Keys this
    morning, evident by the 12Z sounding from Key West which showed
    substantial dry, stable layer from near the surface to around 700
    mb. Current radar imagery suggests most of the intense activity has
    waned and/or is mainly offshore, and the 12Z hi-res guidance is
    less bullish on a widespread heavy rainfall day. As a result, the
    risk area was removed from the Keys. However, there is enough
    support in the guidance and environmental ingredients to maintain
    the Marginal Risk over southeast Florida in the most urbanized
    corridor.

    Taylor

    ---previous discussion---

    PWATs across south FL remain elevated with KEYW and KMFL both
    coming in with values of 2.08" and 2.19", respectively meaning the
    deep layer moisture forecast the past several days is firmly
    entrenched over the region. Several shortwave perturbations will
    advect northeast out of the Florida Straits and nearby Cuba with
    the presence of a Cuban outflow being picked up in the radar/sat
    composite over the past few hours. This is actually well-forecast
    via some of the CAMs suite, a likely indicator that the future
    trends within the models probably hold merit for a threat of heavy
    rain to cross into the Key and the southern Peninsula in the early
    morning hours. As the boundary migrates to the northeast, expect
    copious showers/storms to gallivant through the area dropping
    locally enhanced rainfall with rates between 2-3"/hr pretty much a
    given in a few of the convective cores just due to the environment
    in place. Models are still in flux on the exact locations of where
    heavier rain will occur, but the neighborhood probs for >3" running
    between 50-80% and >5" between 25-35% across both the Keys and
    southeast FL are sufficient for a continuation of the previous MRGL
    risk through the forecast cycle. Will monitor closely for potential
    targeted upgrades, but the setup is certainly favoring at least
    isolated flash flood potential within those two corridors,
    particularly more urban zones due to impervious surface runoff.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE
    CENTRAL SIERRA NEVADA AND CENTRAL VALLEY OF CALIFORNIA...

    20Z Update: The Slight Risk over portions of CA continues to look
    with the peak of the intense rain likely overnight into early
    Friday morning. Otherwise, the rest of the areas look good, however
    for South Florida, the best moisture is expected to move east of
    the area by tomorrow, significantly reducing the rainfall threat
    such that the Marginal Risk was dropped per coordination with WFO
    MFL.=20

    Taylor

    ...California...

    Remnant energy from what is left over from Mario will pivot up into
    Central CA early Friday allowing for a continuation of heavy
    rainfall prospects over the region as PWATs surge to between 3-4
    deviations above normal. Guidance is keying on prevailing upslope
    flow and focused ascent within the Central Sierra of CA with a
    myriad of thunderstorms lingering in the Central Valley. The
    environmental conditions favor locally enhanced convective cores
    which could spell problems for those towns in the valleys, as well
    as runoff in the terrain. HREF neighborhood probs for >1" are very
    high (70-90%) within the above areas with mainly modest >2" probs
    centered over the Central Valley and adjacent Sierra foothills.
    Considering some overlap of heavy rain from D1 into D2, the threat
    seems worthy of a targeted upgrade in these two zones to account
    for the continued risk bleeding from period to period. The good
    news is the setup looks to wane the second half of the forecast
    cycle as energy pushes out of the region and we see a slow
    improvement in the moisture anomalies. This would spell the end
    for the threat of flash flooding and much of the rain prospects.

    ...Southwest...

    Moisture increases across all of the Southwest CONUS will aid in
    favorable environmental conditions for locally heavy convective
    rainfall during the period of diurnal heating on Friday into early
    Saturday. HREF mean QPF is relatively tame overall, but some of the
    CAMs are more robust in their depictions of isolated 2+" totals,
    especially across the Mogollon Rim and Southeast AZ terrain leading
    to a broad MRGL risk maintenance from previous forecast. The
    threat for flash flooding will likely lie as far north as the
    I-70/15 junction and points west over UT/NV with slot canyons and
    dry arroyos as the primary targets for flash flooding as is
    customary in these setups. The threat for a targeted upgrade is on
    the table, but will need to assess the evolution of the mid-level
    vorticity maxima ejecting out of CA to the east over the course of
    time. The most favored areas will likely be those outlined above.
    For now, the MRGL risk will suffice.

    ...Mississippi Valley to ArkLaTex...

    Occluded low over the Upper Midwest will continue to spin with a
    dumbbelling mid-level shortwave pivoting southeast out of the
    Dakotas allowing for a secondary broad ascent pattern to
    materialize downstream over the Mississippi Valley. To the south,
    thunderstorms will fire along a decaying front positioned over the Mid-Mississippi Valley down into the ArkLaTex with ample
    instability and moisture to fuel another isolated flash flood
    threat when assessing individual CAMs and ensemble bias corrected
    outputs. The threat is similar to the previous period, perhaps even
    a touch less robust considering the occlusion phase well in
    progress by this point in the forecast. Overall, this threat was
    deemed enough for a broad MRGL risk to stay in place, but there's
    some potential for a targeted upgrade, pending better overlap from
    model guidance on any particular area from TX to the Upper Midwest.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE MISSOURI VALLEY...

    ...Central U.S...

    Shortwave ejection out of the Great Basin/Four Corners area will
    migrate into the Central and Southern Plains by Saturday afternoon
    providing a more focused large scale ascent pattern during peak
    diurnal instability. Ensemble means are relatively modest in their
    QPF distribution and magnitude, signaling 1-2" of rainfall
    currently in their depictions. Individual deterministic is
    certainly a little more robust, but nothing that would promote a
    more substantial risk. This correlates well with moisture anomalies
    hovering between normal and +1 deviations when assessing the latest
    NAEFS meaning the threat is warranted, but well-within the
    threshold of a MRGL risk. As a result, kept the previous MRGL risk
    and expanded to account for some uncertainty in the spatial
    coverage of expected convection by this time frame.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4njj8oWjCBKYz-u_So0tnxewRH5q5-F0Dh8EhpJY0GmJ= PPXWgL1qkSXNW7D0LHOqXiEvkVdzNY52-oEtrUSTxZJ-ef4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4njj8oWjCBKYz-u_So0tnxewRH5q5-F0Dh8EhpJY0GmJ= PPXWgL1qkSXNW7D0LHOqXiEvkVdzNY52-oEtrUST-XM8Gwk$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4njj8oWjCBKYz-u_So0tnxewRH5q5-F0Dh8EhpJY0GmJ= PPXWgL1qkSXNW7D0LHOqXiEvkVdzNY52-oEtrUSTxnQcDQE$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Sep 19 01:00:22 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 190100
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    900 PM EDT Thu Sep 18 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Fri Sep 19 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF
    SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND SOUTHERN-CENTRAL ARIZONA...

    ...Southwest U.S...

    Difluent upper level flow is quite evident across southern CA and
    AZ per the mid/upper level satellite water vapor loops this=20
    evening. The latest guidance indicates the upper divergence will
    likely get a boost overnight within the left exit region of an
    approaching 70-90 kt upper level jet streak -- including a broader
    area across southern and central AZ. As a result, coupled with the
    latest observational trends (mosaic radar and FFWs especially), as
    well as the latest HREF and RRFS rainfall exceedance probabilities,
    have expanded the Slight Risk to include a larger portion of
    central and southern AZ.

    Hurley

    ---previous discussion---

    Remnant moisture from post-tropical cyclone Mario will continue to advect poleward with California firmly in the cross-hairs for elevated
    moisture (PWATs 2-4 deviations above normal) to move into the
    southern half of the state during the entirety of the D1 period.
    Energy from Mario will lag the initial low to mid-level moisture
    surge, but eventually will enter into the area by the late-morning
    hours today, prompting an uptick in the areal coverage of
    convection over the southern half of the state into the Lower
    Colorado Basin between CA/AZ. The last succession of HREF runs,
    including this evenings 00z suite was pretty pronounced in the
    indication of precip totals between 2-4" potentially impacting some
    of the coastal ranges of CA into the adjacent valley just north of
    the Transverse and Peninsular Ranges. There's also a pretty good
    indication of scattered to widespread convective development later
    this morning, through the afternoon period across the lower deserts
    of southeast CA to the neighboring Colorado Basin at the CA/AZ
    line. This was the area of greatest change when it came to the
    magnitude of the signal when assessing the run to run differences
    over the past iterations of the HREF suite. Ensemble bias corrected
    QPF was also adjusted upward from its previous forecasts across the aforementioned area, a testament to the improving signature for
    local flash flood prospects in that general area. HREF neighborhood
    probs for >1" across the deserts are upward of 50-80% now with
    70-90+% located within the Transverse and Peninsular Ranges during
    the period, a reflection of the heightened threat for at least
    moderate rainfall, enough to spur high runoff concerns in the
    terrain with several burn scars still present in-of those mountain
    chains. Rates will be sufficient considering the deep moist
    environment brought on by the advection of the tropical moisture
    flux involved with Mario, another reason for the threat to be
    leaning towards the higher side as elevated rates are a significant
    driver to flash flooding historically across CA.

    The previous SLGT was expanded a bit to account for the trends in
    hi-res guidance and the conditioning of the environment favoring
    the higher moisture anomalies being advected further north into CA.
    The threat is on the higher end of the SLGT threshold with the
    "saving grace" in this entire setup being the more progressive mean
    flow helping push everything through in relatively faster time than
    what is customary for higher level risks. That still doesn't deter
    the fact that scattered flash flood prospects are becoming more
    certain in the the areas outlined in the SLGT risk with a potential
    for targeted upgrade plausible if conditions warrant.

    ...Central U.S...

    16Z Update:

    For this update, still think the flash flood risk is fairly
    isolated across the Northern Plains and Upper Midwest given the
    relative lack of deep instability, however the dynamical support
    may allow for some embedded stronger cores of locally intense
    rainfall. To the south across KS/MO/OK/AR, greater instability
    should promote more intense rain rates, but coverage of convection
    and whether it will be enough to cause flooding issues is more
    uncertain. For now, maintained the Marginal Risk area largely
    unchanged, aside from some adjustments on the western edges based
    on current activity but the next update may be able to make more
    greater adjustments.

    Taylor

    ---previous discussion---

    Current WV satellite depicts a broad upper low (ULL) with the center
    positioned over SD with a surface low analyzed almost underneath
    the ULL meaning the confidence in an occlusion process beginning
    soon is very high. Once we see the occlusion phase begin, we'll see
    the slow degradation of the prominent deformation field across the
    Dakotas over the course of the forecast leading to decreasing
    rates and expected totals compared to what transpired the period
    prior. As a result, flash flooding concerns will be relatively
    isolated given the more stratiform rain process with the convective
    threat positioned further east into the Mississippi Valley. 00z
    HREF was not very robust for heavy rain prospects in any one area,
    but there were several locations that will stand to benefit from
    locally heavier convection as the cold front continues to migrate
    eastward and drive a broad surface ascent pattern downstream of the
    low. A few stronger mid-level vorticity maxima will help amplify
    the threat in a few areas, mainly in the Missouri and Mid-
    Mississippi Valleys later this afternoon as a stronger mid-level
    shortwave continues to propagate into the region from its overnight
    trajectory. HREF blended mean QPF distribution outlines this area
    fairly well and matches with the modest >3" probabilities situated
    over eastern OK up into MO. Overall, the entire setup with a slowly
    decaying, or steady state low will contribute just another period
    of widely scattered flash flood prospects from the Northern Plains
    over and through the northern two-thirds of the Mississippi Valley.
    The previous MRGL was general maintained with some adjustments
    based on the latest hi-res ensemble probs and blended mean QPF
    footprint.

    ...Southeast Florida...

    16Z Update: Some drier is working eastward across the Keys this
    morning, evident by the 12Z sounding from Key West which showed
    substantial dry, stable layer from near the surface to around 700
    mb. Current radar imagery suggests most of the intense activity has
    waned and/or is mainly offshore, and the 12Z hi-res guidance is
    less bullish on a widespread heavy rainfall day. As a result, the
    risk area was removed from the Keys. However, there is enough
    support in the guidance and environmental ingredients to maintain
    the Marginal Risk over southeast Florida in the most urbanized
    corridor.

    Taylor

    ---previous discussion---

    PWATs across south FL remain elevated with KEYW and KMFL both
    coming in with values of 2.08" and 2.19", respectively meaning the
    deep layer moisture forecast the past several days is firmly
    entrenched over the region. Several shortwave perturbations will
    advect northeast out of the Florida Straits and nearby Cuba with
    the presence of a Cuban outflow being picked up in the radar/sat
    composite over the past few hours. This is actually well-forecast
    via some of the CAMs suite, a likely indicator that the future
    trends within the models probably hold merit for a threat of heavy
    rain to cross into the Key and the southern Peninsula in the early
    morning hours. As the boundary migrates to the northeast, expect
    copious showers/storms to gallivant through the area dropping
    locally enhanced rainfall with rates between 2-3"/hr pretty much a
    given in a few of the convective cores just due to the environment
    in place. Models are still in flux on the exact locations of where
    heavier rain will occur, but the neighborhood probs for >3" running
    between 50-80% and >5" between 25-35% across both the Keys and
    southeast FL are sufficient for a continuation of the previous MRGL
    risk through the forecast cycle. Will monitor closely for potential
    targeted upgrades, but the setup is certainly favoring at least
    isolated flash flood potential within those two corridors,
    particularly more urban zones due to impervious surface runoff.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE
    CENTRAL SIERRA NEVADA AND CENTRAL VALLEY OF CALIFORNIA...

    20Z Update: The Slight Risk over portions of CA continues to look
    with the peak of the intense rain likely overnight into early
    Friday morning. Otherwise, the rest of the areas look good, however
    for South Florida, the best moisture is expected to move east of
    the area by tomorrow, significantly reducing the rainfall threat
    such that the Marginal Risk was dropped per coordination with WFO
    MFL.

    Taylor

    ...California...

    Remnant energy from what is left over from Mario will pivot up into
    Central CA early Friday allowing for a continuation of heavy
    rainfall prospects over the region as PWATs surge to between 3-4
    deviations above normal. Guidance is keying on prevailing upslope
    flow and focused ascent within the Central Sierra of CA with a
    myriad of thunderstorms lingering in the Central Valley. The
    environmental conditions favor locally enhanced convective cores
    which could spell problems for those towns in the valleys, as well
    as runoff in the terrain. HREF neighborhood probs for >1" are very
    high (70-90%) within the above areas with mainly modest >2" probs
    centered over the Central Valley and adjacent Sierra foothills.
    Considering some overlap of heavy rain from D1 into D2, the threat
    seems worthy of a targeted upgrade in these two zones to account
    for the continued risk bleeding from period to period. The good
    news is the setup looks to wane the second half of the forecast
    cycle as energy pushes out of the region and we see a slow
    improvement in the moisture anomalies. This would spell the end
    for the threat of flash flooding and much of the rain prospects.

    ...Southwest...

    Moisture increases across all of the Southwest CONUS will aid in
    favorable environmental conditions for locally heavy convective
    rainfall during the period of diurnal heating on Friday into early
    Saturday. HREF mean QPF is relatively tame overall, but some of the
    CAMs are more robust in their depictions of isolated 2+" totals,
    especially across the Mogollon Rim and Southeast AZ terrain leading
    to a broad MRGL risk maintenance from previous forecast. The
    threat for flash flooding will likely lie as far north as the
    I-70/15 junction and points west over UT/NV with slot canyons and
    dry arroyos as the primary targets for flash flooding as is
    customary in these setups. The threat for a targeted upgrade is on
    the table, but will need to assess the evolution of the mid-level
    vorticity maxima ejecting out of CA to the east over the course of
    time. The most favored areas will likely be those outlined above.
    For now, the MRGL risk will suffice.

    ...Mississippi Valley to ArkLaTex...

    Occluded low over the Upper Midwest will continue to spin with a
    dumbbelling mid-level shortwave pivoting southeast out of the
    Dakotas allowing for a secondary broad ascent pattern to
    materialize downstream over the Mississippi Valley. To the south,
    thunderstorms will fire along a decaying front positioned over the Mid-Mississippi Valley down into the ArkLaTex with ample
    instability and moisture to fuel another isolated flash flood
    threat when assessing individual CAMs and ensemble bias corrected
    outputs. The threat is similar to the previous period, perhaps even
    a touch less robust considering the occlusion phase well in
    progress by this point in the forecast. Overall, this threat was
    deemed enough for a broad MRGL risk to stay in place, but there's
    some potential for a targeted upgrade, pending better overlap from
    model guidance on any particular area from TX to the Upper Midwest.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE MISSOURI VALLEY...

    ...Central U.S...

    Shortwave ejection out of the Great Basin/Four Corners area will
    migrate into the Central and Southern Plains by Saturday afternoon
    providing a more focused large scale ascent pattern during peak
    diurnal instability. Ensemble means are relatively modest in their
    QPF distribution and magnitude, signaling 1-2" of rainfall
    currently in their depictions. Individual deterministic is
    certainly a little more robust, but nothing that would promote a
    more substantial risk. This correlates well with moisture anomalies
    hovering between normal and +1 deviations when assessing the latest
    NAEFS meaning the threat is warranted, but well-within the
    threshold of a MRGL risk. As a result, kept the previous MRGL risk
    and expanded to account for some uncertainty in the spatial
    coverage of expected convection by this time frame.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-geNu54zfaXCF7NeZnWsBggE9wXIecCiHMF0cma2A5j4= wyyfC4nSK7eRLCxh2Ywj9EGg_CrvAdZEgbameabyDpVMKWQ$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-geNu54zfaXCF7NeZnWsBggE9wXIecCiHMF0cma2A5j4= wyyfC4nSK7eRLCxh2Ywj9EGg_CrvAdZEgbameabyby35foY$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-geNu54zfaXCF7NeZnWsBggE9wXIecCiHMF0cma2A5j4= wyyfC4nSK7eRLCxh2Ywj9EGg_CrvAdZEgbameabymE-BqEw$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 190811
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    411 AM EDT Fri Sep 19 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 19 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE
    CENTRAL SIERRA NEVADA...

    ...California/Great Basin...

    Remnant energy from Mario will continue to lift north across
    California and become sheared by an upstream low over the Pacific,
    with some energy wrapping back offshore, while the remainder=20
    moves east into the Great Basin. This energy, along with highly=20
    anomalous moisture (+4 std dev above normal), is expected to=20
    continue to produce showers and storms early in the period across=20
    parts of California, including the Sierra Nevada. While forecast amounts
    have trended down, there is still some signal for locally heavy=20
    rain to continue early in the period across portions of the central
    Sierra Nevada. A small Slight Risk was maintained, mostly for the=20
    initial 6-hours, where the HREF shows higher probabilities for=20
    additional amounts exceeding an inch. By the afternoon, as the mid=20
    level energy and greater moisture anomalies move east, expect the=20
    greater chance for heavier rain to begin to focus over central=20
    Nevada, where the HREF is showing a broader footprint of high=20
    probabilities for amounts over an inch.

    ...Southwest...

    Expect widespread coverage of showers and storms today, as moisture
    from Mario bolsters PWs across the region. The general consensus of
    the CAMs show greater coverage across eastern Arizona and western
    New Mexico during the afternoon, before storms move southeast into
    southeastern New Mexico and West Texas by this evening. Storm=20
    motions are expected to generally progressive, limiting the threat=20
    for widespread heavy amounts and flooding. However, there is some=20
    signal for backbuilding and training, which could raise at least=20
    isolated runoff concerns. HREF neighborhood probabilities for
    amounts exceeding an inch are above 50 percent within much of the
    Marginal Risk area.

    ...Upper Mississippi Valley/Midwest to the Lower Missouri Valley...

    A mid-to-upper level low/negatively-tilted upper trough will
    continue to move slowly east from the northern Plains into the=20
    upper Mississippi Valley this period. While not expected to be a=20
    widespread heavy rainfall event, south-to-north training storms=20
    ahead of the associated occluded front, may produce locally heavy=20
    amounts and isolated flooding from northern Illinois back across=20
    the upper Mississippi Valley. The HREF shows widespread high
    probabilities for amounts exceeding an inch across this region,=20
    with some localized high probabilities for amounts over two inches.

    Meanwhile, shortwave energy diving southeast out of the northern
    High Plains, is expected to produce a secondary area of organized
    amounts, with some locally heavy amounts possible from=20
    southeastern Nebraska into southwestern Iowa and northwestern=20
    Missouri this evening into the overnight. Here also, the HREF is
    showing high probabilities for amounts over an inch, with heavier
    amounts possible.

    ...Central Plains...

    Energy moving through the base of the previously noted upper
    trough, interacting with deepening moisture along a strengthening
    low level jet is expected produce showers and storms developing=20
    and dropping southeast across Kansas, with locally heavy amounts=20
    possible by this evening. HREF probabilities indicate localized
    amounts of an inch or more are likely, with heavier amounts
    possible.

    Pereira

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF SOUTHEASTERN KANSAS AND NORTHEASTERN OKLAHOMA THROUGH THE
    OZARKS...

    Storms developing late in the previous period across Kansas may
    continue, producing locally heavy amounts across portions of the=20
    Ozark Region Sunday morning. Redevelopment is possible back to the
    west later in the day as shortwave energy emanating from the west
    moves into the region and interacts with deepening moisture
    afforded by strengthening southerly flow.

    Pereira

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST AND FROM THE OZARKS THROUGH THE MID MISSISSIPPI
    VALLEY...

    ...The Southwest...

    An upper low off of the California coast will drift southeast,
    supporting the return of deeper moisture spreading north across
    Arizona and western New Mexico on Sunday. With PW anomalies
    increasing to 2-3 standard deviations above normal, numerous showers
    and storms, producing locally heavy rainfall amounts and isolated=20
    flooding concerns, can be expected.

    ...Ozarks through the Mid Mississippi Valley...

    A broad upper trough will drift slowly east from the Plains into
    the Mississippi Valley this period. A series of mid level
    shortwaves lifting along the leading edge of the trough,
    interacting an axis of deeper moisture is expected to produce showers
    and storms with periods of heavy rainfall possible.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5sWY6jErU7QoE7Q0X2MAV28jb7Bgyp9K1QGbaPKkKA6n= 3f-m0xhxB8KIqr6FT9W7S2iWEguIQjY9JjqpjGciHnRo0dk$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5sWY6jErU7QoE7Q0X2MAV28jb7Bgyp9K1QGbaPKkKA6n= 3f-m0xhxB8KIqr6FT9W7S2iWEguIQjY9JjqpjGcidV6JfkU$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5sWY6jErU7QoE7Q0X2MAV28jb7Bgyp9K1QGbaPKkKA6n= 3f-m0xhxB8KIqr6FT9W7S2iWEguIQjY9JjqpjGcio19ZX4A$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Sep 19 15:57:45 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 191557
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1157 AM EDT Fri Sep 19 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri Sep 19 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS=20
    OF THE SOUTHWEST, UPPER MIDWEST, CENTRAL TO SOUTHEAST KANSAS, AND A
    SMALL PORTION OF NORTHWESTERN MISSISSIPPI AND ADJACENT AREAS...

    ...16Z Update...

    ...Southwest...

    The Slight Risk across a small portion of the Sierras has been
    removed with this update. While the northern area of the previous
    Slight is still picking up rainfall, rates have been a half inch
    per hour or less, and should weaken over the next few hours,
    reducing the flooding threat in that area.

    A renewed round of showers and thunderstorms across Nevada,
    Arizona, and New Mexico may cause additional instances of flash
    flooding again this afternoon and evening with peak heating.
    Considering the rainfall is over a much larger area as compared to
    yesterday, the forcings should be more diffuse and likely more tied
    to terrain. Further, the wave of precipitation is continuing to
    shear apart as it pushes north and east. A local maximum of
    rainfall is noted in the guidance across portions of western and
    southern New Mexico, but the signals remain too diffuse to pinpoint
    any one area for a Slight Risk upgrade. The area will continue to
    be monitored for a possible special upgrade should precipitation
    coverage and rates in that area overperform expectations.

    ...Midwest...

    Rainfall around a slow moving low centered near the Minnesota and
    Dakotas tripoint has largely been light so far this morning. Expect
    stronger convection to break out in some areas this afternoon, with
    the low level jet taking over as the primary source of instability
    and moisture overnight tonight. Once again there isn't good
    agreement on exactly where the heaviest rainfall will occur, but
    there's some consensus on the trimmed Marginal area from near
    Chicago northwest through the MN/ND/SD tripoint.

    ...Plains...

    A pair of MCS's are expected to impact NE and KS into tonight. The
    one in NE has already formed and is moving across the middle of the
    state, and is expected to hold together into southeastern Nebraska.
    Meanwhile a second one is expected to form in southeast Kansas late
    tonight. Considering the flow of moisture and instability from
    south to north, the storms to the south should prevent some of the
    wetter solutions from materializing with the northern one in
    Nebraska. While there is some training potential with both, and
    embedded convection may briefly cause higher rain rates with both
    MCSs, the higher threat should be with the southern one in Kansas,
    so that Marginal remains.

    ...Mississippi/Tennessee/Arkansas...

    Ongoing convection along the Mississippi River into northwestern
    Mississippi has been backbuilding and rain cores have been locally
    producing 3 inch per hour rainfall rates based on radar data.
    Guidance is very poor on the handling of these storms, with most
    not recognizing the storms even exist. However, given the high
    rainfall rates and the likelihood the storms will persist for at
    least a couple more hours based on past behavior, a Marginal Risk
    was drawn to cover the flooding potential in this area through the
    midday period.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...California/Great Basin...

    Remnant energy from Mario will continue to lift north across
    California and become sheared by an upstream low over the Pacific,
    with some energy wrapping back offshore, while the remainder
    moves east into the Great Basin. This energy, along with highly
    anomalous moisture (+4 std dev above normal), is expected to
    continue to produce showers and storms early in the period across
    parts of California, including the Sierra Nevada. While forecast amounts
    have trended down, there is still some signal for locally heavy
    rain to continue early in the period across portions of the central
    Sierra Nevada. A small Slight Risk was maintained, mostly for the
    initial 6-hours, where the HREF shows higher probabilities for
    additional amounts exceeding an inch. By the afternoon, as the mid
    level energy and greater moisture anomalies move east, expect the
    greater chance for heavier rain to begin to focus over central
    Nevada, where the HREF is showing a broader footprint of high
    probabilities for amounts over an inch.

    ...Southwest...

    Expect widespread coverage of showers and storms today, as moisture
    from Mario bolsters PWs across the region. The general consensus of
    the CAMs show greater coverage across eastern Arizona and western
    New Mexico during the afternoon, before storms move southeast into
    southeastern New Mexico and West Texas by this evening. Storm
    motions are expected to generally progressive, limiting the threat
    for widespread heavy amounts and flooding. However, there is some
    signal for backbuilding and training, which could raise at least
    isolated runoff concerns. HREF neighborhood probabilities for
    amounts exceeding an inch are above 50 percent within much of the
    Marginal Risk area.

    ...Upper Mississippi Valley/Midwest to the Lower Missouri Valley...

    A mid-to-upper level low/negatively-tilted upper trough will
    continue to move slowly east from the northern Plains into the
    upper Mississippi Valley this period. While not expected to be a
    widespread heavy rainfall event, south-to-north training storms
    ahead of the associated occluded front, may produce locally heavy
    amounts and isolated flooding from northern Illinois back across
    the upper Mississippi Valley. The HREF shows widespread high
    probabilities for amounts exceeding an inch across this region,
    with some localized high probabilities for amounts over two inches.

    Meanwhile, shortwave energy diving southeast out of the northern
    High Plains, is expected to produce a secondary area of organized
    amounts, with some locally heavy amounts possible from
    southeastern Nebraska into southwestern Iowa and northwestern
    Missouri this evening into the overnight. Here also, the HREF is
    showing high probabilities for amounts over an inch, with heavier
    amounts possible.

    ...Central Plains...

    Energy moving through the base of the previously noted upper
    trough, interacting with deepening moisture along a strengthening
    low level jet is expected produce showers and storms developing
    and dropping southeast across Kansas, with locally heavy amounts
    possible by this evening. HREF probabilities indicate localized
    amounts of an inch or more are likely, with heavier amounts
    possible.

    Pereira

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF SOUTHEASTERN KANSAS AND NORTHEASTERN OKLAHOMA THROUGH THE
    OZARKS...

    Storms developing late in the previous period across Kansas may
    continue, producing locally heavy amounts across portions of the
    Ozark Region Sunday morning. Redevelopment is possible back to the
    west later in the day as shortwave energy emanating from the west
    moves into the region and interacts with deepening moisture
    afforded by strengthening southerly flow.

    Pereira

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST AND FROM THE OZARKS THROUGH THE MID MISSISSIPPI
    VALLEY...

    ...The Southwest...

    An upper low off of the California coast will drift southeast,
    supporting the return of deeper moisture spreading north across
    Arizona and western New Mexico on Sunday. With PW anomalies
    increasing to 2-3 standard deviations above normal, numerous showers
    and storms, producing locally heavy rainfall amounts and isolated
    flooding concerns, can be expected.

    ...Ozarks through the Mid Mississippi Valley...

    A broad upper trough will drift slowly east from the Plains into
    the Mississippi Valley this period. A series of mid level
    shortwaves lifting along the leading edge of the trough,
    interacting an axis of deeper moisture is expected to produce showers
    and storms with periods of heavy rainfall possible.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5aaCviy4I5IFWrGEYPTpv0hxy6bLFUxtYpcRX0IRWQV8= sMKmL9SsAbLGC0hn4Yw3mLa2j1NQuxXJQNwxyYg8fjXkX64$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5aaCviy4I5IFWrGEYPTpv0hxy6bLFUxtYpcRX0IRWQV8= sMKmL9SsAbLGC0hn4Yw3mLa2j1NQuxXJQNwxyYg8Vvnp5dg$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5aaCviy4I5IFWrGEYPTpv0hxy6bLFUxtYpcRX0IRWQV8= sMKmL9SsAbLGC0hn4Yw3mLa2j1NQuxXJQNwxyYg8hKS0UcM$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 191819
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    219 PM EDT Fri Sep 19 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 1818Z Fri Sep 19 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS=20
    OF THE SOUTHWEST, UPPER MIDWEST, CENTRAL TO SOUTHEAST KANSAS, AND
    MUCH OF SOUTHERN ARKANSAS AND NORTHERN MISSISSIPPI...

    ...1815Z Special Update...

    The Marginal Risk over the Mississippi Valley was expanded along
    the slow moving frontal boundary to include much of southern
    Arkansas and northern Mississippi with this update. This update is=20
    in response to increasing coverage of convection in those areas.=20
    Please see MPD 1107 at=20 wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/metwatch/metwatch_mpd_multi.php?md=3D1107&yr=3D2025=20
    for more details.

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...16Z Update...

    ...Southwest...

    The Slight Risk across a small portion of the Sierras has been
    removed with this update. While the northern area of the previous
    Slight is still picking up rainfall, rates have been a half inch
    per hour or less, and should weaken over the next few hours,
    reducing the flooding threat in that area.

    A renewed round of showers and thunderstorms across Nevada,
    Arizona, and New Mexico may cause additional instances of flash
    flooding again this afternoon and evening with peak heating.
    Considering the rainfall is over a much larger area as compared to
    yesterday, the forcings should be more diffuse and likely more tied
    to terrain. Further, the wave of precipitation is continuing to
    shear apart as it pushes north and east. A local maximum of
    rainfall is noted in the guidance across portions of western and
    southern New Mexico, but the signals remain too diffuse to pinpoint
    any one area for a Slight Risk upgrade. The area will continue to
    be monitored for a possible special upgrade should precipitation
    coverage and rates in that area overperform expectations.

    ...Midwest...

    Rainfall around a slow moving low centered near the Minnesota and
    Dakotas tripoint has largely been light so far this morning. Expect
    stronger convection to break out in some areas this afternoon, with
    the low level jet taking over as the primary source of instability
    and moisture overnight tonight. Once again there isn't good
    agreement on exactly where the heaviest rainfall will occur, but
    there's some consensus on the trimmed Marginal area from near
    Chicago northwest through the MN/ND/SD tripoint.

    ...Plains...

    A pair of MCS's are expected to impact NE and KS into tonight. The
    one in NE has already formed and is moving across the middle of the
    state, and is expected to hold together into southeastern Nebraska.
    Meanwhile a second one is expected to form in southeast Kansas late
    tonight. Considering the flow of moisture and instability from
    south to north, the storms to the south should prevent some of the
    wetter solutions from materializing with the northern one in
    Nebraska. While there is some training potential with both, and
    embedded convection may briefly cause higher rain rates with both
    MCSs, the higher threat should be with the southern one in Kansas,
    so that Marginal remains.

    ...Mississippi/Tennessee/Arkansas...

    Ongoing convection along the Mississippi River into northwestern
    Mississippi has been backbuilding and rain cores have been locally
    producing 3 inch per hour rainfall rates based on radar data.
    Guidance is very poor on the handling of these storms, with most
    not recognizing the storms even exist. However, given the high
    rainfall rates and the likelihood the storms will persist for at
    least a couple more hours based on past behavior, a Marginal Risk
    was drawn to cover the flooding potential in this area through the
    midday period.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF SOUTHEASTERN KANSAS AND NORTHEASTERN OKLAHOMA THROUGH THE
    OZARKS...

    Storms developing late in the previous period across Kansas may
    continue, producing locally heavy amounts across portions of the
    Ozark Region Sunday morning. Redevelopment is possible back to the
    west later in the day as shortwave energy emanating from the west
    moves into the region and interacts with deepening moisture
    afforded by strengthening southerly flow.

    Pereira

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST AND FROM THE OZARKS THROUGH THE MID MISSISSIPPI
    VALLEY...

    ...The Southwest...

    An upper low off of the California coast will drift southeast,
    supporting the return of deeper moisture spreading north across
    Arizona and western New Mexico on Sunday. With PW anomalies
    increasing to 2-3 standard deviations above normal, numerous showers
    and storms, producing locally heavy rainfall amounts and isolated
    flooding concerns, can be expected.

    ...Ozarks through the Mid Mississippi Valley...

    A broad upper trough will drift slowly east from the Plains into
    the Mississippi Valley this period. A series of mid level
    shortwaves lifting along the leading edge of the trough,
    interacting an axis of deeper moisture is expected to produce showers
    and storms with periods of heavy rainfall possible.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8I1PaEwnqb1PucnTuyfbT41dkl9tox2wgYWW43vWQF2A= co_9iW4uUJEivwMSgzLsGtgbbeYvpoTKou33YNE1-huI6DE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8I1PaEwnqb1PucnTuyfbT41dkl9tox2wgYWW43vWQF2A= co_9iW4uUJEivwMSgzLsGtgbbeYvpoTKou33YNE1k4BYuDg$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8I1PaEwnqb1PucnTuyfbT41dkl9tox2wgYWW43vWQF2A= co_9iW4uUJEivwMSgzLsGtgbbeYvpoTKou33YNE1rprSvSI$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Sep 19 18:22:57 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 191822
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    222 PM EDT Fri Sep 19 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 1822Z Fri Sep 19 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST, UPPER MIDWEST, CENTRAL TO SOUTHEAST KANSAS, AND
    MUCH OF SOUTHERN ARKANSAS AND NORTHERN MISSISSIPPI...

    ...1815Z Special Update...

    The Marginal Risk over the Mississippi Valley was expanded along
    the slow moving frontal boundary to include much of southern
    Arkansas and northern Mississippi with this update. This update is
    in response to increasing coverage of convection in those areas.
    Please see MPD 1107 at wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/metwatch/metwatch_mpd_multi.php?md=3D1107&yr=3D2025
    for more details.

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...16Z Update...

    ...Southwest...

    The Slight Risk across a small portion of the Sierras has been
    removed with this update. While the northern area of the previous
    Slight is still picking up rainfall, rates have been a half inch
    per hour or less, and should weaken over the next few hours,
    reducing the flooding threat in that area.

    A renewed round of showers and thunderstorms across Nevada,
    Arizona, and New Mexico may cause additional instances of flash
    flooding again this afternoon and evening with peak heating.
    Considering the rainfall is over a much larger area as compared to
    yesterday, the forcings should be more diffuse and likely more tied
    to terrain. Further, the wave of precipitation is continuing to
    shear apart as it pushes north and east. A local maximum of
    rainfall is noted in the guidance across portions of western and
    southern New Mexico, but the signals remain too diffuse to pinpoint
    any one area for a Slight Risk upgrade. The area will continue to
    be monitored for a possible special upgrade should precipitation
    coverage and rates in that area overperform expectations.

    ...Midwest...

    Rainfall around a slow moving low centered near the Minnesota and
    Dakotas tripoint has largely been light so far this morning. Expect
    stronger convection to break out in some areas this afternoon, with
    the low level jet taking over as the primary source of instability
    and moisture overnight tonight. Once again there isn't good
    agreement on exactly where the heaviest rainfall will occur, but
    there's some consensus on the trimmed Marginal area from near
    Chicago northwest through the MN/ND/SD tripoint.

    ...Plains...

    A pair of MCS's are expected to impact NE and KS into tonight. The
    one in NE has already formed and is moving across the middle of the
    state, and is expected to hold together into southeastern Nebraska.
    Meanwhile a second one is expected to form in southeast Kansas late
    tonight. Considering the flow of moisture and instability from
    south to north, the storms to the south should prevent some of the
    wetter solutions from materializing with the northern one in
    Nebraska. While there is some training potential with both, and
    embedded convection may briefly cause higher rain rates with both
    MCSs, the higher threat should be with the southern one in Kansas,
    so that Marginal remains.

    ...Mississippi/Tennessee/Arkansas...

    Ongoing convection along the Mississippi River into northwestern
    Mississippi has been backbuilding and rain cores have been locally
    producing 3 inch per hour rainfall rates based on radar data.
    Guidance is very poor on the handling of these storms, with most
    not recognizing the storms even exist. However, given the high
    rainfall rates and the likelihood the storms will persist for at
    least a couple more hours based on past behavior, a Marginal Risk
    was drawn to cover the flooding potential in this area through the
    midday period.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF SOUTHEASTERN KANSAS AND NORTHEASTERN OKLAHOMA THROUGH THE
    OZARKS...

    Storms developing late in the previous period across Kansas may
    continue, producing locally heavy amounts across portions of the
    Ozark Region Sunday morning. Redevelopment is possible back to the
    west later in the day as shortwave energy emanating from the west
    moves into the region and interacts with deepening moisture
    afforded by strengthening southerly flow.

    Pereira

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST AND FROM THE OZARKS THROUGH THE MID MISSISSIPPI
    VALLEY...

    ...The Southwest...

    An upper low off of the California coast will drift southeast,
    supporting the return of deeper moisture spreading north across
    Arizona and western New Mexico on Sunday. With PW anomalies
    increasing to 2-3 standard deviations above normal, numerous showers
    and storms, producing locally heavy rainfall amounts and isolated
    flooding concerns, can be expected.

    ...Ozarks through the Mid Mississippi Valley...

    A broad upper trough will drift slowly east from the Plains into
    the Mississippi Valley this period. A series of mid level
    shortwaves lifting along the leading edge of the trough,
    interacting an axis of deeper moisture is expected to produce showers
    and storms with periods of heavy rainfall possible.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7UVGXPe4f35RekTN_89pmC3O7V27ADwpRW1z0JzGQ94j= YuLPPrF3qYICaI-RWD20d6cKSkfAiWRAc7v8fRXX4JHcDJc$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7UVGXPe4f35RekTN_89pmC3O7V27ADwpRW1z0JzGQ94j= YuLPPrF3qYICaI-RWD20d6cKSkfAiWRAc7v8fRXXSjrMn3Q$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7UVGXPe4f35RekTN_89pmC3O7V27ADwpRW1z0JzGQ94j= YuLPPrF3qYICaI-RWD20d6cKSkfAiWRAc7v8fRXXn89K-gY$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Sep 19 20:02:56 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 192002
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    402 PM EDT Fri Sep 19 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri Sep 19 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST, UPPER MIDWEST, CENTRAL TO SOUTHEAST KANSAS, AND
    MUCH OF SOUTHERN ARKANSAS AND NORTHERN MISSISSIPPI...

    ...1815Z Special Update...

    The Marginal Risk over the Mississippi Valley was expanded along
    the slow moving frontal boundary to include much of southern
    Arkansas and northern Mississippi with this update. This update is
    in response to increasing coverage of convection in those areas.
    Please see MPD 1107 at wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/metwatch/metwatch_mpd_multi.php?md=3D1107&yr=3D2025
    for more details.

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...16Z Update...

    ...Southwest...

    The Slight Risk across a small portion of the Sierras has been
    removed with this update. While the northern area of the previous
    Slight is still picking up rainfall, rates have been a half inch
    per hour or less, and should weaken over the next few hours,
    reducing the flooding threat in that area.

    A renewed round of showers and thunderstorms across Nevada,
    Arizona, and New Mexico may cause additional instances of flash
    flooding again this afternoon and evening with peak heating.
    Considering the rainfall is over a much larger area as compared to
    yesterday, the forcings should be more diffuse and likely more tied
    to terrain. Further, the wave of precipitation is continuing to
    shear apart as it pushes north and east. A local maximum of
    rainfall is noted in the guidance across portions of western and
    southern New Mexico, but the signals remain too diffuse to pinpoint
    any one area for a Slight Risk upgrade. The area will continue to
    be monitored for a possible special upgrade should precipitation
    coverage and rates in that area overperform expectations.

    ...Midwest...

    Rainfall around a slow moving low centered near the Minnesota and
    Dakotas tripoint has largely been light so far this morning. Expect
    stronger convection to break out in some areas this afternoon, with
    the low level jet taking over as the primary source of instability
    and moisture overnight tonight. Once again there isn't good
    agreement on exactly where the heaviest rainfall will occur, but
    there's some consensus on the trimmed Marginal area from near
    Chicago northwest through the MN/ND/SD tripoint.

    ...Plains...

    A pair of MCS's are expected to impact NE and KS into tonight. The
    one in NE has already formed and is moving across the middle of the
    state, and is expected to hold together into southeastern Nebraska.
    Meanwhile a second one is expected to form in southeast Kansas late
    tonight. Considering the flow of moisture and instability from
    south to north, the storms to the south should prevent some of the
    wetter solutions from materializing with the northern one in
    Nebraska. While there is some training potential with both, and
    embedded convection may briefly cause higher rain rates with both
    MCSs, the higher threat should be with the southern one in Kansas,
    so that Marginal remains.

    ...Mississippi/Tennessee/Arkansas...

    Ongoing convection along the Mississippi River into northwestern
    Mississippi has been backbuilding and rain cores have been locally
    producing 3 inch per hour rainfall rates based on radar data.
    Guidance is very poor on the handling of these storms, with most
    not recognizing the storms even exist. However, given the high
    rainfall rates and the likelihood the storms will persist for at
    least a couple more hours based on past behavior, a Marginal Risk
    was drawn to cover the flooding potential in this area through the
    midday period.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF OKLAHOMA THROUGH SOUTHERN MISSOURI, AS WELL AS FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    WISCONSIN AND WEST VIRGINIA...

    ...2030Z Update...

    ...Oklahoma through southern Missouri...

    The inherited Marginal across this portion of the country was
    adjusted southward with this update. A complex of storms across
    southeast Kansas will be ongoing at the start of the period
    Saturday morning. The storms will drift south and east across the
    Moksarok through the morning, then will likely weaken with daytime
    heating providing competing forcing, as is typical. New storms are
    likely to form in the evening and overnight across Oklahoma with a
    second cluster in southern Missouri. There is a tremendous amount
    of models spread on how this entire scenario plays out, with the
    Moksarok storms having the best agreement, so additional changes to
    the ERO risk area are likely.

    ...Wisconsin...

    A negatively tilted trough over the northern Plains will lift
    northeast into the Upper Midwest/Great Lakes on Saturday. A slow
    moving surface low will also progress northeastward towards the
    area during the day. This unfolding weather scenario will likely
    result in multiple rounds of storms tracking northeastward across
    Wisconsin both during the day Saturday but also into Saturday
    night. Lack of instability will be the primary ingredient missing
    that would support flooding, but the combination of some prior
    days' rains in this area and the multiple rounds as the
    aforementioned larger scale forcing remains favorable should still
    support isolated areas of flash flooding, particularly in an urban
    areas.

    ...West Virginia...

    Considering the lack of agreement in much of the CAMs guidance
    regarding placement and timing of storms in other areas of the
    country, there is remarkable agreement on persistent and training
    storms developing along the Allegheny Front of West Virginia on
    Saturday afternoon. A strong shortwave tracking northeastward at
    the base of the same negatively tilted trough moving across the
    northern Plains and Midwest will provide the forcing for the
    storms, as instability and some southerly flow of adequate moisture
    advects north into the area. There will likely be some topographic
    influence as well as to where the heaviest rains set up. Since the
    area, like much of the Midwest and Northeast, has been very dry in
    recent weeks, it's likely most of the expected rainfall in this
    area will be beneficial. However, where heavier rates are the most
    persistent, isolated flash flooding of smaller streams and creeks
    could cause a few impacts.

    Wegman


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS MUCH OF
    ARIZONA AS WELL AS FOR PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS THROUGH MUCH
    OF ILLINOIS...

    ...2030Z Update...

    ...Southern Plains through Illinois...

    The Marginal Risk inherited was expanded in most directions with
    this update. A stalled out front will continue to draw increasing
    amounts of Gulf moisture northeastward around a large high pressure
    area centered along the East Coast. Training showers and storms
    will track along the front from Oklahoma north and east. Oklahoma
    will have "first dibs" for the best instability and moisture, so
    it's likely the heaviest rainfall in the area will occur in this
    region. However, the storms tracking north and east will move into
    areas that will likely have had recent heavy rainfall from the Day
    2/Saturday period, which could mean less rainfall will be needed to
    cause flooding. Due to diffuse signals, there is not yet the
    confidence to pinpoint any area within the larger Marginal for a
    Slight, but the potential for a future Slight Risk upgrade is
    present and will need to continue to be monitored.

    ...Arizona...

    No significant changes were made, as monsoonal moisture moves into
    the state ahead of a longwave positively tilted trough. Should
    signals increase in this area, then here too may need to be
    considered for a possible future Slight Risk, especially in areas
    that get heavy rain in the Day 1/today period.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...The Southwest...

    An upper low off of the California coast will drift southeast,
    supporting the return of deeper moisture spreading north across
    Arizona and western New Mexico on Sunday. With PW anomalies
    increasing to 2-3 standard deviations above normal, numerous showers
    and storms, producing locally heavy rainfall amounts and isolated
    flooding concerns, can be expected.

    ...Ozarks through the Mid Mississippi Valley...

    A broad upper trough will drift slowly east from the Plains into
    the Mississippi Valley this period. A series of mid level
    shortwaves lifting along the leading edge of the trough,
    interacting an axis of deeper moisture is expected to produce showers
    and storms with periods of heavy rainfall possible.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_4I9kcK6u2ECDFxKfPPdg2gSPKnoOxbT111gMuNwt3aW= Wdu-w6jvSuJ0bcDu0U-X6icTkIApa8JI9_d99V78vvZZtmc$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_4I9kcK6u2ECDFxKfPPdg2gSPKnoOxbT111gMuNwt3aW= Wdu-w6jvSuJ0bcDu0U-X6icTkIApa8JI9_d99V78YVIPsRk$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_4I9kcK6u2ECDFxKfPPdg2gSPKnoOxbT111gMuNwt3aW= Wdu-w6jvSuJ0bcDu0U-X6icTkIApa8JI9_d99V78iPVm4zQ$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 200037
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    837 PM EDT Fri Sep 19 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST, UPPER MIDWEST, AND CENTRAL PLAINS...

    ...Southwest...

    ...0100 UTC Update...=20
    A renewed round of showers and thunderstorms across Nevada,=20
    Arizona, and New Mexico may cause additional instances of flash=20
    flooding again through this evening before the loss of diurnal=20
    heating. Considering the rainfall is over a much larger area as=20
    compared to yesterday, the forcings should be more diffuse and=20
    likely more tied to terrain. Further, the wave of precipitation is=20 continuing to shear apart as it pushes north and east. A local=20
    maximum of rainfall is noted in the guidance across portions of=20
    western and southern New Mexico, but the signals remain too diffuse
    to pinpoint any one area for a Slight Risk upgrade. The area will=20
    continue to be monitored for a possible special upgrade should=20
    precipitation coverage and rates in that area overperform=20
    expectations.

    ...Midwest...

    ...0100 UTC Update...
    Based on the latest observational and mesoanalysis trends, along
    with the 18Z HREF rainfall exceedance probabilities, have trimmed
    the Marginal Risk area out of western and central MN, while
    extended the southern periphery to include a bit more of central
    and eastern IL.


    ...Plains...

    ...1600 UTC Update...
    A pair of MCS's are expected to impact NE and KS into tonight. The
    one in NE has already formed and is moving across the middle of=20
    the state, and is expected to hold together into southeastern=20
    Nebraska. Meanwhile a second one is expected to form in southeast=20
    Kansas late tonight. Considering the flow of moisture and=20
    instability from south to north, the storms to the south should=20
    prevent some of the wetter solutions from materializing with the=20
    northern one in Nebraska. While there is some training potential=20
    with both, and embedded convection may briefly cause higher rain=20
    rates with both MCSs, the higher threat should be with the southern
    one in Kansas, so that Marginal remains.

    Hurley/Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF OKLAHOMA THROUGH SOUTHERN MISSOURI, AS WELL AS FOR PORTIONS OF
    WISCONSIN AND WEST VIRGINIA...

    ...2030Z Update...

    ...Oklahoma through southern Missouri...

    The inherited Marginal across this portion of the country was
    adjusted southward with this update. A complex of storms across
    southeast Kansas will be ongoing at the start of the period
    Saturday morning. The storms will drift south and east across the
    Moksarok through the morning, then will likely weaken with daytime
    heating providing competing forcing, as is typical. New storms are
    likely to form in the evening and overnight across Oklahoma with a
    second cluster in southern Missouri. There is a tremendous amount
    of models spread on how this entire scenario plays out, with the
    Moksarok storms having the best agreement, so additional changes to
    the ERO risk area are likely.

    ...Wisconsin...

    A negatively tilted trough over the northern Plains will lift
    northeast into the Upper Midwest/Great Lakes on Saturday. A slow
    moving surface low will also progress northeastward towards the
    area during the day. This unfolding weather scenario will likely
    result in multiple rounds of storms tracking northeastward across
    Wisconsin both during the day Saturday but also into Saturday
    night. Lack of instability will be the primary ingredient missing
    that would support flooding, but the combination of some prior
    days' rains in this area and the multiple rounds as the
    aforementioned larger scale forcing remains favorable should still
    support isolated areas of flash flooding, particularly in an urban
    areas.

    ...West Virginia...

    Considering the lack of agreement in much of the CAMs guidance
    regarding placement and timing of storms in other areas of the
    country, there is remarkable agreement on persistent and training
    storms developing along the Allegheny Front of West Virginia on
    Saturday afternoon. A strong shortwave tracking northeastward at
    the base of the same negatively tilted trough moving across the
    northern Plains and Midwest will provide the forcing for the
    storms, as instability and some southerly flow of adequate moisture
    advects north into the area. There will likely be some topographic
    influence as well as to where the heaviest rains set up. Since the
    area, like much of the Midwest and Northeast, has been very dry in
    recent weeks, it's likely most of the expected rainfall in this
    area will be beneficial. However, where heavier rates are the most
    persistent, isolated flash flooding of smaller streams and creeks
    could cause a few impacts.

    Wegman


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS MUCH OF
    ARIZONA AS WELL AS FOR PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS THROUGH MUCH
    OF ILLINOIS...

    ...2030Z Update...

    ...Southern Plains through Illinois...

    The Marginal Risk inherited was expanded in most directions with
    this update. A stalled out front will continue to draw increasing
    amounts of Gulf moisture northeastward around a large high pressure
    area centered along the East Coast. Training showers and storms
    will track along the front from Oklahoma north and east. Oklahoma
    will have "first dibs" for the best instability and moisture, so
    it's likely the heaviest rainfall in the area will occur in this
    region. However, the storms tracking north and east will move into
    areas that will likely have had recent heavy rainfall from the Day
    2/Saturday period, which could mean less rainfall will be needed to
    cause flooding. Due to diffuse signals, there is not yet the
    confidence to pinpoint any area within the larger Marginal for a
    Slight, but the potential for a future Slight Risk upgrade is
    present and will need to continue to be monitored.

    ...Arizona...

    No significant changes were made, as monsoonal moisture moves into
    the state ahead of a longwave positively tilted trough. Should
    signals increase in this area, then here too may need to be
    considered for a possible future Slight Risk, especially in areas
    that get heavy rain in the Day 1/today period.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...The Southwest...

    An upper low off of the California coast will drift southeast,
    supporting the return of deeper moisture spreading north across
    Arizona and western New Mexico on Sunday. With PW anomalies
    increasing to 2-3 standard deviations above normal, numerous showers
    and storms, producing locally heavy rainfall amounts and isolated
    flooding concerns, can be expected.

    ...Ozarks through the Mid Mississippi Valley...

    A broad upper trough will drift slowly east from the Plains into
    the Mississippi Valley this period. A series of mid level
    shortwaves lifting along the leading edge of the trough,
    interacting an axis of deeper moisture is expected to produce showers
    and storms with periods of heavy rainfall possible.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6hgmyAEdI1xlGEGkJWxGcB9CIpAjCplnSwQmObrjaZFE= 3MIfAxTcq1nG8g9ZdFyB2hUNm6s8-LDf7DebDqV-agE0Cb4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6hgmyAEdI1xlGEGkJWxGcB9CIpAjCplnSwQmObrjaZFE= 3MIfAxTcq1nG8g9ZdFyB2hUNm6s8-LDf7DebDqV--DVmZlU$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6hgmyAEdI1xlGEGkJWxGcB9CIpAjCplnSwQmObrjaZFE= 3MIfAxTcq1nG8g9ZdFyB2hUNm6s8-LDf7DebDqV-QhW8XZM$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 200805
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    405 AM EDT Sat Sep 20 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE MIDWEST, THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, OZARKS, AND THE CENTRAL=20
    APPALACHIANS...

    ...Wisconsin and northern Illinois...

    A negatively-tilted upper trough will lift slowly across the mid to
    upper Mississippi Valley today. The associated ascent interacting
    with a ribbon of relatively deeper moisture (PWs 1.25-1.5 inches)=20
    along a modest low level jet will support showers and storms=20
    redeveloping this afternoon, which may potentially continue into=20
    the evening. With differences in the details, the CAMs generally=20
    indicate two areas of locally heavier amounts -- a north-south axis
    associated with storms lifting across eastern Wisconsin during the afternoon/evening and a west-east stripe produced by storms=20
    developing across Iowa and then training across northern Illinois=20
    later during the overnight. HREF neighborhood probabilities=20
    indicate localized amounts in excess of 2 inches are possible in=20
    these areas.

    ...Ozarks to southwestern Oklahoma....

    CAMs indicate that ongoing convection firing north of a stationary
    front over southern Kansas will continue through the late morning,
    potentially producing heavy amounts as they train further east=20
    into the Ozark Region. The HREF shows high neighborhood=20
    probabilities for accumulations over 2 inches centered over this=20
    region.=20

    Then, as upstream energy sliding southeast across the central=20
    Plains interacts with deepening moisture that will be supported by
    increasing southerly low level flow, some guidance indicate that=20
    storms will redevelop over this same area later today. However,=20
    other models show storms developing further to the west before=20
    moving back into areas impacted by this morning's storms.=20

    While there is fair amount of uncertainty on how these storms=20
    across central into eastern Oklahoma will evolve, there is greater=20
    model consensus that storms developing over the Texas Panhandle and
    western Oklahoma by this evening will merge across southwestern=20
    Oklahoma to produce locally heavy amounts across the region during
    the overnight.=20

    ...West Virginia...

    CAMs continue to show isolated heavy amounts associated with slow-
    moving storms that are expected to develop over eastern West=20
    Virginia this afternoon. A weak impulse lifting northeast out of=20
    the Ohio Valley, interacting with pooling moisture along a slowing
    front, will support storm development. HREF neighborhood=20
    probabilities indicate that amounts of 2-3 inches are likely within
    the highlighted area.

    Pereira

    Day 2 Valid 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE CENTRAL PLAINS, MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, AND THE SOUTHWEST...

    ...Eastern Kansas and northeastern Oklahoma to southern Illinois...

    Deepening moisture (PWs above 1.5 inches) along an axis of
    strengthening southerly to southwesterly flow ahead an amplifying
    upper trough will fuel showers and storms, possibly producing=20
    heavy amounts. While models differ significantly on the details,=20
    the general consensus indicates widespread precipitation is likely,
    with locally heavy amounts of 1-2 inches possible.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low dropping to the south along the California coast will
    slow as it becomes cutoff west of Southern California. Southerly=20
    flow ahead of the system will support increasing moisture and the
    chances for precipitation across parts of Southern California and=20
    Arizona. Both the GFS and ECMWF show PW anomalies increasing to 2.5
    to 3 standard deviations above normal across far Southern=20
    California through the lower Colorado Basin into Arizona.=20

    Pereira

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST AND FROM KANSAS AND OKLAHOMA TO THE OHIO VALLEY...

    ...Kansas and Oklahoma to the Ohio Valley...

    Unsettled weather will continue, with the footprint for potentially
    heavy rain expanding as energy moving through the base of a broad
    upper trough interacts with deep moisture that will be supported=20
    persistent southwesterly flow. While models generally agree on a=20
    large footprint of moderate to heavy amounts, they lack agreement=20
    on the details. At least locally heavy amounts are expected,=20
    especially within the western portions of the highlighted area as=20
    a well-defined shortwave dives southeast and is expected to=20
    interact with a pool of deepening moisture along a strong=20
    southwesterly low level jet. Given the indication of 2-3 inches in
    some of the models, which is forecast to fall in addition to the=20
    previous days' amounts, an upgrade to a Slight Risk may be=20
    forthcoming if the signal persists and the guidance moves into=20
    better agreement.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low is forecast to remain cutoff and drift slowly east=20
    along the Southern California coast. Anomalous moisture in place=20
    across Arizona is expected to spread east into parts of New Mexico,
    extending the chances for showers and storms, with potentially=20
    heavy amounts into the region.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8pQe_tdoCfnj7adGK831Q_zOMCD5YW0IWloZQV_8pvYM= PtkZSKzaW4kxYXGO2_QGvpZTQ_3u6HWv2H6-15xunQxUopQ$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8pQe_tdoCfnj7adGK831Q_zOMCD5YW0IWloZQV_8pvYM= PtkZSKzaW4kxYXGO2_QGvpZTQ_3u6HWv2H6-15xuKZRskZg$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8pQe_tdoCfnj7adGK831Q_zOMCD5YW0IWloZQV_8pvYM= PtkZSKzaW4kxYXGO2_QGvpZTQ_3u6HWv2H6-15xuyZmrDMg$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 200821
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    421 AM EDT Sat Sep 20 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE MIDWEST, THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, OZARKS, AND THE CENTRAL
    APPALACHIANS...

    ...Wisconsin and northern Illinois...

    A negatively-tilted upper trough will lift slowly across the mid to
    upper Mississippi Valley today. The associated ascent interacting
    with a ribbon of relatively deeper moisture (PWs 1.25-1.5 inches)
    along a modest low level jet will support showers and storms
    redeveloping this afternoon, which may potentially continue into
    the evening. With differences in the details, the CAMs generally
    indicate two areas of locally heavier amounts -- a north-south axis
    associated with storms lifting across eastern Wisconsin during the afternoon/evening and a west-east stripe produced by storms
    developing across Iowa and then training across northern Illinois
    later during the overnight. HREF neighborhood probabilities
    indicate localized amounts in excess of 2 inches are possible in
    these areas.

    ...Ozarks to southwestern Oklahoma....

    CAMs indicate that ongoing convection firing north of a stationary
    front over southern Kansas will continue through the late morning,
    potentially producing heavy amounts as they train further east
    into the Ozark Region. The HREF shows high neighborhood
    probabilities for accumulations over 2 inches centered over this
    region.

    Then, as upstream energy sliding southeast across the central
    Plains interacts with deepening moisture that will be supported by
    increasing southerly low level flow, some guidance indicate that
    storms will redevelop over this same area later today. However,
    other models show storms developing further to the west before
    moving back into areas impacted by this morning's storms.

    While there is fair amount of uncertainty on how these storms
    across central into eastern Oklahoma will evolve, there is greater
    model consensus that storms developing over the Texas Panhandle and
    western Oklahoma by this evening will merge across southwestern
    Oklahoma to produce locally heavy amounts across the region during
    the overnight.

    ...West Virginia...

    CAMs continue to show isolated heavy amounts associated with slow-
    moving storms that are expected to develop over eastern West
    Virginia this afternoon. A weak impulse lifting northeast out of
    the Ohio Valley, interacting with pooling moisture along a slowing
    front, will support storm development. HREF neighborhood
    probabilities indicate that amounts of 2-3 inches are likely within
    the highlighted area.

    Pereira


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE CENTRAL PLAINS, MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, AND THE SOUTHWEST...

    ...Eastern Kansas and northeastern Oklahoma to southern Illinois...

    Deepening moisture (PWs above 1.5 inches) along an axis of
    strengthening southerly to southwesterly flow ahead an amplifying
    upper trough will fuel showers and storms, possibly producing
    heavy amounts. While models differ significantly on the details,
    the general consensus indicates widespread precipitation is likely,
    with locally heavy amounts of 1-2 inches possible.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low dropping to the south along the California coast will
    slow as it becomes cutoff west of Southern California. Southerly
    flow ahead of the system will support increasing moisture and the
    chances for precipitation across parts of Southern California and
    Arizona. Both the GFS and ECMWF show PW anomalies increasing to 2.5
    to 3 standard deviations above normal across far Southern
    California through the lower Colorado Basin into Arizona.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST AND FROM KANSAS AND OKLAHOMA TO THE OHIO VALLEY...

    ...Kansas and Oklahoma to the Ohio Valley...

    Unsettled weather will continue, with the footprint for potentially
    heavy rain expanding as energy moving through the base of a broad
    upper trough interacts with deep moisture that will be supported
    persistent southwesterly flow. While models generally agree on a
    large footprint of moderate to heavy amounts, they lack agreement
    on the details. At least locally heavy amounts are expected,
    especially within the western portions of the highlighted area as
    a well-defined shortwave dives southeast and is expected to
    interact with a pool of deepening moisture along a strong
    southwesterly low level jet. Given the indication of 2-3 inches in
    some of the models, which is forecast to fall in addition to the
    previous days' amounts, an upgrade to a Slight Risk may be
    forthcoming if the signal persists and the guidance moves into
    better agreement.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low is forecast to remain cutoff and drift slowly east
    along the Southern California coast. Anomalous moisture in place
    across Arizona is expected to spread east into parts of New Mexico,
    extending the chances for showers and storms, with potentially
    heavy amounts into the region.

    Pereira


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    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8eaviJ_qpft5dZopaMAa1QvUnsZIfTVnJuRpu4zupRPu= uOBqIIfwQJvRBxF6h-0ozvDI5QdJ46NvX6T3IgyQz6ZFUhk$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8eaviJ_qpft5dZopaMAa1QvUnsZIfTVnJuRpu4zupRPu= uOBqIIfwQJvRBxF6h-0ozvDI5QdJ46NvX6T3IgyQ-sD-HIA$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 201557
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1157 AM EDT Sat Sep 20 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE MIDWEST, THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND OZARKS, AND THE CENTRAL=20 APPALACHIANS...

    ...16Z Update...

    Overall, the 3 inherited Marginal Risk areas were only tweaked a
    little bit each.=20

    ...Southern Plains and Ozarks...

    An ongoing area of convection near the Moksarok continues to be a
    Marginal flooding threat as the storms either linger or reform over
    this same area later this afternoon. Most of the Moksarok has seen
    about 1-2 inches of rain areally, but with locally higher amounts.
    Thus, soils in this small region have become saturated enough that
    additional rainfall from stronger storms later this afternoon could
    cause isolated instances of flash flooding. Meanwhile, further
    southwest, a secondary area of convection that is more aligned with
    the core of the low level jet, will likely form very late tonight
    across the Texas Panhandle, southwest Oklahoma and far north
    Texas. These storms will pose an isolated overnight flash flooding
    risk, and should be entirely separate from the storms ongoing near
    the Moksarok. Since they will both be along the same boundary, the
    Marginal remains in place across central Oklahoma, though it
    appears likely the I-44 corridor from the Oklahoma City metro=20
    through the Tulsa metro will see less in the way of total rainfall.

    ...Midwest...

    The inherited Marginal Risk across Wisconsin and Illinois was
    expanded just a bit to include the Green Bay, Milwaukee, and
    Chicagoland regions with this update. A slow moving occluded front
    attached to a low currently along the ND/MN border will push
    eastward towards the western shores of Lake Michigan this
    afternoon. Scattered showers and thunderstorms are likely to sweep
    across the metros this afternoon and evening as a result, which
    could themselves pose an urban and small stream flooding threat.
    Behind the line, however, guidance suggests there could be
    additional rainfall, most likely in the form of just showers, but
    that will train over some of these same areas. Since guidance has
    shifted a bit to the east with the greatest instability and
    moisture advection this afternoon to along the Lake Michigan
    shoreline, the urban I-94 & I-43 corridors were added to the
    Marginal, which now generally spans from I-90/I-39 east to the=20
    lakeshore.

    ...Central Appalachians...

    The inherited Marginal Risk across portions of West Virginia was
    nudged north just a bit in keeping with the latest guidance.
    Generally areas east of the Appalachians should not be under much
    flooding threat, as the heaviest rainfall remains in the portion of
    eastern West Virginia from the southern tip of Maryland's western
    Panhandle south to the Highland County, VA's northernmost point.
    Guidance has been very consistent highlighting this area for the
    most rainfall. Given the ongoing moderate to severe drought
    conditions, it's likely there will be storms that may have embedded
    heavy rain cores outside of the Marginal Risk area, but it will
    take the persistence of heavy rain highlighted in this region in
    the guidance to result in isolated instances of flash flooding.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Wisconsin and northern Illinois...

    A negatively-tilted upper trough will lift slowly across the mid to
    upper Mississippi Valley today. The associated ascent interacting
    with a ribbon of relatively deeper moisture (PWs 1.25-1.5 inches)
    along a modest low level jet will support showers and storms
    redeveloping this afternoon, which may potentially continue into
    the evening. With differences in the details, the CAMs generally
    indicate two areas of locally heavier amounts -- a north-south axis
    associated with storms lifting across eastern Wisconsin during the afternoon/evening and a west-east stripe produced by storms
    developing across Iowa and then training across northern Illinois
    later during the overnight. HREF neighborhood probabilities
    indicate localized amounts in excess of 2 inches are possible in
    these areas.

    ...Ozarks to southwestern Oklahoma....

    CAMs indicate that ongoing convection firing north of a stationary
    front over southern Kansas will continue through the late morning,
    potentially producing heavy amounts as they train further east
    into the Ozark Region. The HREF shows high neighborhood
    probabilities for accumulations over 2 inches centered over this
    region.

    Then, as upstream energy sliding southeast across the central
    Plains interacts with deepening moisture that will be supported by
    increasing southerly low level flow, some guidance indicate that
    storms will redevelop over this same area later today. However,
    other models show storms developing further to the west before
    moving back into areas impacted by this morning's storms.

    While there is fair amount of uncertainty on how these storms
    across central into eastern Oklahoma will evolve, there is greater
    model consensus that storms developing over the Texas Panhandle and
    western Oklahoma by this evening will merge across southwestern
    Oklahoma to produce locally heavy amounts across the region during
    the overnight.

    ...West Virginia...

    CAMs continue to show isolated heavy amounts associated with slow-
    moving storms that are expected to develop over eastern West
    Virginia this afternoon. A weak impulse lifting northeast out of
    the Ohio Valley, interacting with pooling moisture along a slowing
    front, will support storm development. HREF neighborhood
    probabilities indicate that amounts of 2-3 inches are likely within
    the highlighted area.

    Pereira


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE CENTRAL PLAINS, MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, AND THE SOUTHWEST...

    ...Eastern Kansas and northeastern Oklahoma to southern Illinois...

    Deepening moisture (PWs above 1.5 inches) along an axis of
    strengthening southerly to southwesterly flow ahead an amplifying
    upper trough will fuel showers and storms, possibly producing
    heavy amounts. While models differ significantly on the details,
    the general consensus indicates widespread precipitation is likely,
    with locally heavy amounts of 1-2 inches possible.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low dropping to the south along the California coast will
    slow as it becomes cutoff west of Southern California. Southerly
    flow ahead of the system will support increasing moisture and the
    chances for precipitation across parts of Southern California and
    Arizona. Both the GFS and ECMWF show PW anomalies increasing to 2.5
    to 3 standard deviations above normal across far Southern
    California through the lower Colorado Basin into Arizona.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST AND FROM KANSAS AND OKLAHOMA TO THE OHIO VALLEY...

    ...Kansas and Oklahoma to the Ohio Valley...

    Unsettled weather will continue, with the footprint for potentially
    heavy rain expanding as energy moving through the base of a broad
    upper trough interacts with deep moisture that will be supported
    persistent southwesterly flow. While models generally agree on a
    large footprint of moderate to heavy amounts, they lack agreement
    on the details. At least locally heavy amounts are expected,
    especially within the western portions of the highlighted area as
    a well-defined shortwave dives southeast and is expected to
    interact with a pool of deepening moisture along a strong
    southwesterly low level jet. Given the indication of 2-3 inches in
    some of the models, which is forecast to fall in addition to the
    previous days' amounts, an upgrade to a Slight Risk may be
    forthcoming if the signal persists and the guidance moves into
    better agreement.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low is forecast to remain cutoff and drift slowly east
    along the Southern California coast. Anomalous moisture in place
    across Arizona is expected to spread east into parts of New Mexico,
    extending the chances for showers and storms, with potentially
    heavy amounts into the region.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4vorv7wPyzXg_TocNka6JuSEQZ0wkXx5Y4krahy1mdsO= ywtRd3H2PXjh4-Szwa30XMiQiWMhZ7SGqi52-TRdv12RGKw$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4vorv7wPyzXg_TocNka6JuSEQZ0wkXx5Y4krahy1mdsO= ywtRd3H2PXjh4-Szwa30XMiQiWMhZ7SGqi52-TRdBqbSoDk$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4vorv7wPyzXg_TocNka6JuSEQZ0wkXx5Y4krahy1mdsO= ywtRd3H2PXjh4-Szwa30XMiQiWMhZ7SGqi52-TRd9MJxIWo$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat Sep 20 18:54:40 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 201854
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    254 PM EDT Sat Sep 20 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE MIDWEST, THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND OZARKS, AND THE CENTRAL
    APPALACHIANS...

    ...16Z Update...

    Overall, the 3 inherited Marginal Risk areas were only tweaked a
    little bit each.

    ...Southern Plains and Ozarks...

    An ongoing area of convection near the Moksarok continues to be a
    Marginal flooding threat as the storms either linger or reform over
    this same area later this afternoon. Most of the Moksarok has seen
    about 1-2 inches of rain areally, but with locally higher amounts.
    Thus, soils in this small region have become saturated enough that
    additional rainfall from stronger storms later this afternoon could
    cause isolated instances of flash flooding. Meanwhile, further
    southwest, a secondary area of convection that is more aligned with
    the core of the low level jet, will likely form very late tonight
    across the Texas Panhandle, southwest Oklahoma and far north
    Texas. These storms will pose an isolated overnight flash flooding
    risk, and should be entirely separate from the storms ongoing near
    the Moksarok. Since they will both be along the same boundary, the
    Marginal remains in place across central Oklahoma, though it
    appears likely the I-44 corridor from the Oklahoma City metro
    through the Tulsa metro will see less in the way of total rainfall.

    ...Midwest...

    The inherited Marginal Risk across Wisconsin and Illinois was
    expanded just a bit to include the Green Bay, Milwaukee, and
    Chicagoland regions with this update. A slow moving occluded front
    attached to a low currently along the ND/MN border will push
    eastward towards the western shores of Lake Michigan this
    afternoon. Scattered showers and thunderstorms are likely to sweep
    across the metros this afternoon and evening as a result, which
    could themselves pose an urban and small stream flooding threat.
    Behind the line, however, guidance suggests there could be
    additional rainfall, most likely in the form of just showers, but
    that will train over some of these same areas. Since guidance has
    shifted a bit to the east with the greatest instability and
    moisture advection this afternoon to along the Lake Michigan
    shoreline, the urban I-94 & I-43 corridors were added to the
    Marginal, which now generally spans from I-90/I-39 east to the
    lakeshore.

    ...Central Appalachians...

    The inherited Marginal Risk across portions of West Virginia was
    nudged north just a bit in keeping with the latest guidance.
    Generally areas east of the Appalachians should not be under much
    flooding threat, as the heaviest rainfall remains in the portion of
    eastern West Virginia from the southern tip of Maryland's western
    Panhandle south to the Highland County, VA's northernmost point.
    Guidance has been very consistent highlighting this area for the
    most rainfall. Given the ongoing moderate to severe drought
    conditions, it's likely there will be storms that may have embedded
    heavy rain cores outside of the Marginal Risk area, but it will
    take the persistence of heavy rain highlighted in this region in
    the guidance to result in isolated instances of flash flooding.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Wisconsin and northern Illinois...

    A negatively-tilted upper trough will lift slowly across the mid to
    upper Mississippi Valley today. The associated ascent interacting
    with a ribbon of relatively deeper moisture (PWs 1.25-1.5 inches)
    along a modest low level jet will support showers and storms
    redeveloping this afternoon, which may potentially continue into
    the evening. With differences in the details, the CAMs generally
    indicate two areas of locally heavier amounts -- a north-south axis
    associated with storms lifting across eastern Wisconsin during the afternoon/evening and a west-east stripe produced by storms
    developing across Iowa and then training across northern Illinois
    later during the overnight. HREF neighborhood probabilities
    indicate localized amounts in excess of 2 inches are possible in
    these areas.

    ...Ozarks to southwestern Oklahoma....

    CAMs indicate that ongoing convection firing north of a stationary
    front over southern Kansas will continue through the late morning,
    potentially producing heavy amounts as they train further east
    into the Ozark Region. The HREF shows high neighborhood
    probabilities for accumulations over 2 inches centered over this
    region.

    Then, as upstream energy sliding southeast across the central
    Plains interacts with deepening moisture that will be supported by
    increasing southerly low level flow, some guidance indicate that
    storms will redevelop over this same area later today. However,
    other models show storms developing further to the west before
    moving back into areas impacted by this morning's storms.

    While there is fair amount of uncertainty on how these storms
    across central into eastern Oklahoma will evolve, there is greater
    model consensus that storms developing over the Texas Panhandle and
    western Oklahoma by this evening will merge across southwestern
    Oklahoma to produce locally heavy amounts across the region during
    the overnight.

    ...West Virginia...

    CAMs continue to show isolated heavy amounts associated with slow-
    moving storms that are expected to develop over eastern West
    Virginia this afternoon. A weak impulse lifting northeast out of
    the Ohio Valley, interacting with pooling moisture along a slowing
    front, will support storm development. HREF neighborhood
    probabilities indicate that amounts of 2-3 inches are likely within
    the highlighted area.

    Pereira


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE CENTRAL PLAINS, MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, AND THE SOUTHWEST...

    ...19Z Update...

    ...Plains to Mid-Mississippi Valley...

    Overall across the middle of the country, the signal for heavy rain
    on Sunday remains quite diffuse. There will be a corridor where
    heavier rain will be more likely, which includes the Marginal Risk
    region from Oklahoma through Illinois. However, the guidance is in
    otherwise poor agreement on where any clusters of storms will
    develop and how much rain they will produce. Thus, taking
    antecedent dry soil conditions into account across nearly all of
    the Marginal Risk area, it remains a rather low-end Marginal.

    ...Southwest...

    Very few changes needed across the Southwest as monsoonal moisture
    in place across much of Arizona and portions of the California
    Deserts may allow for some limited shower and thunderstorm
    development. A positively tilted longwave trough approaching the
    area from the northwest will increase the large scale forcing in
    the area, which should allow for some "slopover" of any storms into
    the normally drier desert areas. Couple that with the western
    portion of the area (far southern California and far western
    Arizona) having recently picked up locally flooding rains, the
    Marginal Risk remains in place largely unchanged. As usual, burn
    scar areas will be particularly susceptible to renewed flooding
    should heavy rains occur over or near them.=20

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Eastern Kansas and northeastern Oklahoma to southern Illinois...

    Deepening moisture (PWs above 1.5 inches) along an axis of
    strengthening southerly to southwesterly flow ahead an amplifying
    upper trough will fuel showers and storms, possibly producing
    heavy amounts. While models differ significantly on the details,
    the general consensus indicates widespread precipitation is likely,
    with locally heavy amounts of 1-2 inches possible.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low dropping to the south along the California coast will
    slow as it becomes cutoff west of Southern California. Southerly
    flow ahead of the system will support increasing moisture and the
    chances for precipitation across parts of Southern California and
    Arizona. Both the GFS and ECMWF show PW anomalies increasing to 2.5
    to 3 standard deviations above normal across far Southern
    California through the lower Colorado Basin into Arizona.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST AND FROM KANSAS AND OKLAHOMA TO THE OHIO VALLEY...

    ...19Z Update...

    ...Kansas/Oklahoma to the Ohio Valley...

    A plume of moisture streaming off the Gulf will collide with a
    stalled frontal boundary from Kansas through the Ohio Valley on
    Monday. Expect multiple clusters of storms riding up that boundary
    from southwest to northeast to douse the region with periodically
    heavy rain. The details of where any such clusters of storms are
    likely to form remain highly uncertain. Thus, while the signal for
    heavy rain across the region is significantly higher than the Day
    2/Sunday period, there remains little agreement on where and
    whether any persistent heavy rain will significantly impact any
    areas hit with heavy rain on previous days. Thus, once again taking
    into account antecedent conditions, which only get drier the
    further north and east you go, the large Marginal Risk area across
    the area remains valid.

    ...Southwest...

    Very little has changed in the forecast with another day of
    afternoon showers and storms likely to impact much of eastern
    Arizona into portions of western New Mexico Monday afternoon. With
    ridging aloft and therefore no larger scale areas of forcing, the
    storms will likely be tied to topography, such as the Mogollon Rim,
    limiting the flash flood threat to isolated instances.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Kansas and Oklahoma to the Ohio Valley...

    Unsettled weather will continue, with the footprint for potentially
    heavy rain expanding as energy moving through the base of a broad
    upper trough interacts with deep moisture that will be supported
    persistent southwesterly flow. While models generally agree on a
    large footprint of moderate to heavy amounts, they lack agreement
    on the details. At least locally heavy amounts are expected,
    especially within the western portions of the highlighted area as
    a well-defined shortwave dives southeast and is expected to
    interact with a pool of deepening moisture along a strong
    southwesterly low level jet. Given the indication of 2-3 inches in
    some of the models, which is forecast to fall in addition to the
    previous days' amounts, an upgrade to a Slight Risk may be
    forthcoming if the signal persists and the guidance moves into
    better agreement.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low is forecast to remain cutoff and drift slowly east
    along the Southern California coast. Anomalous moisture in place
    across Arizona is expected to spread east into parts of New Mexico,
    extending the chances for showers and storms, with potentially
    heavy amounts into the region.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8OmcS63tFkaYvO5D2NPueyTVMjGpuy5Lzno_TkdNXzMG= uX1pGhJ5EK6BcWVUGJ7_QRKo9BLSbRvR8Mbowv1kGLrKVHg$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8OmcS63tFkaYvO5D2NPueyTVMjGpuy5Lzno_TkdNXzMG= uX1pGhJ5EK6BcWVUGJ7_QRKo9BLSbRvR8Mbowv1khYOuuUU$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8OmcS63tFkaYvO5D2NPueyTVMjGpuy5Lzno_TkdNXzMG= uX1pGhJ5EK6BcWVUGJ7_QRKo9BLSbRvR8Mbowv1klEZji-Y$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Sep 21 00:40:01 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 210039
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    839 PM EDT Sat Sep 20 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, OZARKS, & CENTRAL APPALACHIANS...

    ...Southern Plains and Ozarks...
    A festering area of convection across OK & near the MO/AR border continues
    to be sufficient for a Marginal flooding threat. Earlier rainfall
    should have partially saturated soils, and with the topography
    across some locales, at least isolated instances of flash flooding
    are anticipated. A later complex will likely form very late=20
    tonight near the Red River of the South. These storms should also=20
    pose an isolated overnight flash flooding risk. Regionally, there
    is a pool of 1000-3500 J/kg of MU CAPE to feed thunderstorms and
    about 25 kts of effective bulk shear which should lead to
    organization at times. With precipitable water values ~1.5", hourly
    amounts to 2" with local amounts to 4" should be possible.


    ...Central Appalachians...
    Ongoing pulse convection should continue for several more hours=20
    near the Virginia/West Virginia border before MU CAPE fades and/or=20
    CIN wins out. Precipitable water values above 1.25" along with MU=20
    CAPE of up to 1000 J/kg are feeding them currently. Until they=20
    dissipate, hourly amounts to 2" are possible as they move slowly=20
    near the rough topography, continuing the Marginal Risk of=20
    excessive rainfall.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE CENTRAL PLAINS, MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, AND THE SOUTHWEST...

    ...19Z Update...

    ...Plains to Mid-Mississippi Valley...

    Overall across the middle of the country, the signal for heavy rain
    on Sunday remains quite diffuse. There will be a corridor where
    heavier rain will be more likely, which includes the Marginal Risk
    region from Oklahoma through Illinois. However, the guidance is in
    otherwise poor agreement on where any clusters of storms will
    develop and how much rain they will produce. Thus, taking
    antecedent dry soil conditions into account across nearly all of
    the Marginal Risk area, it remains a rather low-end Marginal.

    ...Southwest...

    Very few changes needed across the Southwest as monsoonal moisture
    in place across much of Arizona and portions of the California
    Deserts may allow for some limited shower and thunderstorm
    development. A positively tilted longwave trough approaching the
    area from the northwest will increase the large scale forcing in
    the area, which should allow for some "slopover" of any storms into
    the normally drier desert areas. Couple that with the western
    portion of the area (far southern California and far western
    Arizona) having recently picked up locally flooding rains, the
    Marginal Risk remains in place largely unchanged. As usual, burn
    scar areas will be particularly susceptible to renewed flooding
    should heavy rains occur over or near them.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Eastern Kansas and northeastern Oklahoma to southern Illinois...

    Deepening moisture (PWs above 1.5 inches) along an axis of
    strengthening southerly to southwesterly flow ahead an amplifying
    upper trough will fuel showers and storms, possibly producing
    heavy amounts. While models differ significantly on the details,
    the general consensus indicates widespread precipitation is likely,
    with locally heavy amounts of 1-2 inches possible.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low dropping to the south along the California coast will
    slow as it becomes cutoff west of Southern California. Southerly
    flow ahead of the system will support increasing moisture and the
    chances for precipitation across parts of Southern California and
    Arizona. Both the GFS and ECMWF show PW anomalies increasing to 2.5
    to 3 standard deviations above normal across far Southern
    California through the lower Colorado Basin into Arizona.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST AND FROM KANSAS AND OKLAHOMA TO THE OHIO VALLEY...

    ...19Z Update...

    ...Kansas/Oklahoma to the Ohio Valley...

    A plume of moisture streaming off the Gulf will collide with a
    stalled frontal boundary from Kansas through the Ohio Valley on
    Monday. Expect multiple clusters of storms riding up that boundary
    from southwest to northeast to douse the region with periodically
    heavy rain. The details of where any such clusters of storms are
    likely to form remain highly uncertain. Thus, while the signal for
    heavy rain across the region is significantly higher than the Day
    2/Sunday period, there remains little agreement on where and
    whether any persistent heavy rain will significantly impact any
    areas hit with heavy rain on previous days. Thus, once again taking
    into account antecedent conditions, which only get drier the
    further north and east you go, the large Marginal Risk area across
    the area remains valid.

    ...Southwest...

    Very little has changed in the forecast with another day of
    afternoon showers and storms likely to impact much of eastern
    Arizona into portions of western New Mexico Monday afternoon. With
    ridging aloft and therefore no larger scale areas of forcing, the
    storms will likely be tied to topography, such as the Mogollon Rim,
    limiting the flash flood threat to isolated instances.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Kansas and Oklahoma to the Ohio Valley...

    Unsettled weather will continue, with the footprint for potentially
    heavy rain expanding as energy moving through the base of a broad
    upper trough interacts with deep moisture that will be supported
    persistent southwesterly flow. While models generally agree on a
    large footprint of moderate to heavy amounts, they lack agreement
    on the details. At least locally heavy amounts are expected,
    especially within the western portions of the highlighted area as
    a well-defined shortwave dives southeast and is expected to
    interact with a pool of deepening moisture along a strong
    southwesterly low level jet. Given the indication of 2-3 inches in
    some of the models, which is forecast to fall in addition to the
    previous days' amounts, an upgrade to a Slight Risk may be
    forthcoming if the signal persists and the guidance moves into
    better agreement.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low is forecast to remain cutoff and drift slowly east
    along the Southern California coast. Anomalous moisture in place
    across Arizona is expected to spread east into parts of New Mexico,
    extending the chances for showers and storms, with potentially
    heavy amounts into the region.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5dYUTd9YHCCo5BqlE_nbMUgURPa5l2yb1Rem_wl9VvKb= FhcyE-LhEl4C9yiWyMCBZUNQFvF60fl3YI89yJAdkURTWtk$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5dYUTd9YHCCo5BqlE_nbMUgURPa5l2yb1Rem_wl9VvKb= FhcyE-LhEl4C9yiWyMCBZUNQFvF60fl3YI89yJAdOOsCxlw$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5dYUTd9YHCCo5BqlE_nbMUgURPa5l2yb1Rem_wl9VvKb= FhcyE-LhEl4C9yiWyMCBZUNQFvF60fl3YI89yJAd8G0duIM$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 210821
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    421 AM EDT Sun Sep 21 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN THE VICINITY OF
    THE KANSAS/OKLAHOMA/ARKANSAS/MISSOURI BORDER AREA...

    ...Central-Southern Plains into the Mid Mississippi Valley...
    Additional shortwave energy will be diving east southeastward=20
    through the base of the mean trof centered through the Central to=20
    Southern Plains into the Middle Mississippi Valley. These height=20
    falls will help strengthen the low level west south west to=20
    southwesterly flow into a west to east northeasterly oriented low=20
    level boundary stretching from the Southern Plains into the Middle
    Mississippi Valley. This will support another round of convection=20
    pushing east from central to eastern KS/OK into much of MO,=20
    northwest AR and central to Southern IL. A slight risk area was=20
    added in the vicinity of the KS/OK/AR/MO border area that has seen=20
    heavy rains over the past 24 hours and may see additional heavy=20
    totals later in the upcoming day 1 period. Otherwise, there were no
    significant changes made to the previous marginal risk area, that=20
    continues to fit well with the latest axis of high HREF=20
    neighborhood probabilities for 1 and 2"+ amounts during the=20
    upcoming day 1 period. Across these areas, relative soil moistures=20
    remain very low, which should help mitigate runoff issues, at least
    initially.

    ...Southern California into Arizona...
    The closed low initially off the Central California coast will be
    drifting only slowly southward day 1 to a position off the=20
    Southern California coast. A jet streak on the eastern side of this
    upper trof will keep favorable right entrance region jet dynamics=20
    over Southern CA into Arizona. This will help accentuate lift in=20
    an axis of anomalous PW values, 1 to 3+ standard deviations above=20
    the mean that are expected to persist across these areas day 1.=20
    This should support potential for additional widespread scattered=20 convection, locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE=20=20
    CENTRAL TO SOUTHERN PLAINS, MIDDLE TO LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND=20
    OHIO VALLEY AND ACROSS ARIZONA INTO WESTERN NEW MEXICO...

    ...Mid to Lower Mississippi Valley into the Ohio Valley...
    The height falls pushing east southeastward day 1 into the Central
    to Southern Plains and toward the Mid Mississippi Valley will=20
    continue to move eastward through the Ohio Valley day 2. Well=20
    defined large scale lift in an axis of above average PW values, 1=20
    to 1.5+ standard deviations above the mean, will support the=20
    likelihood of widespread moderate to heavy precipitation in an=20
    axis from northern AR, far southeast MO, far southeast IL, western=20
    to central KY, much of IN and OH. At the moment the convection=20
    across these areas may be fairly progressive. This and very low=20
    relative soil moistures, much of the area in moderate to severe=20
    drought, will keep the risk level at marginal for the time being.=20
    With respect to changes to the previous issuance, the northern edge
    of the marginal risk was trimmed to the south by about 50-75 miles
    to account for the latest model consensus.

    ...Central to Southern Plains...
    The marginal risk area from the previous issuance was expanded=20
    slightly westward into western KS to cover the model spread with
    the next round of convection forming ahead of the upstream
    amplifying height falls dropping southeastward late=20
    day 1 from the Northern Rockies into the Central Rockies/Lee of the
    Central Rockies on day 2. The GFS and NAM begin to diverge day 2=20
    with the track of this closing off mid to upper level center, with=20
    the NAM taking a more southeastward track into the Central Plains,=20
    while the GFS takes a more south southeastward track into the=20
    Central Rockies. The NAM solution, at the moment, is an outlier=20
    with the EC, UKMET and CMC more in line with the GFS. The
    differing mid to upper evolutions have more of a qpf impact over
    south central WY into north central CO, where the more southeast
    NAM solution is much lighter than the remainder of the guidance. Do
    not believe there will be any runoff issues farther northwest
    across CO/WY given lack of instability. While models differ farther
    to the southeast, there are still non NAM solutions that have
    potentially heavy rains as far northwest as northwest KS day 2,
    supporting the west northwest expansion from the previous=20
    issuance.

    ...Southwest...
    The closed low off the Southern CA coast day 1 is expected to move
    little on day 2. The right entrance region of the jet streak to=20
    the east of this closed low will push eastward from its day 1=20
    position, but continue to support uvvs enhancement in the above=20
    average PW axis, 1 to 3 standard deviations above the mean, that=20
    will remain in place across Southern CA into the Southwest.=20
    Additional scattered convection across these areas will support=20
    localized heavy amounts and isolated runoff issues. The previous=20
    marginal risk area was expanded westward into southeast CA to cover
    the model qpf spread.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, NORTHERN ARKANSAS, NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA AND SOUTHEAST=20
    KANSAS...

    There continues to be model differences in the evolution of the mid
    to upper level trof over the Central to Southern Plains toward the
    Mid Mississippi Valley. The NAM continues to be an outlier in being
    more amplified and faster to push the height falls downstream.
    Despite the differences, models do show re-strengthening of the low
    level southwesterly flow ahead of surface low pressure moving east
    across Oklahoma into Arkansas. This will support potential for
    organized convection, that likely forms late day 2 to the north of
    this low across the Central Plains, continuing day 3 from southeast KS/northeast OK, across Southern MO and northern AR. Model
    consensus is for the heaviest totals across these areas with
    amounts of 2-4" possible. This heavy axis will possibly overlap
    where heavy rains have fallen over the past 24 hours and where=20
    additional heavy rains are possible during the day 1 period. There=20
    were no major changes to the slight risk area from the previous=20
    issuance. The marginal risk was extended farther westward into=20
    northeast CO where several models show heavy rain potential day 3.=20
    The eastern portion of the marginal risk was also extended into the
    Upper OH Valley to cover the model qpf spread.=20

    ...Southern to Central California...
    The nearly stationary closed low off the Southern CA coast day 2=20
    will begin to slowly move back to the north on day 3 toward the=20
    Central CA coast. This slow north movement will also allow for a=20
    northward expansion of the anomalous PW values over Southern CA=20
    into Central CA, with values as high as 3-4 standard deviations=20
    above the mean. There are differences with qpf distributions given
    differences with the northward push of the closed low. Not a lot=20
    of confidence in any solution at this range, but continued=20
    potential for locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues,=20
    especially over any burn scars. No changes made at the moment to=20
    the previous broad marginal risk area over Southern to Central CA.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7a4XPBhPnupSTC6VH9finfNizRCPOtguJLc-5B9snVhV= H-SLLw0oUkaakzVj543lA06WtwL9oqC0dV7Ztx1t16xGtgU$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7a4XPBhPnupSTC6VH9finfNizRCPOtguJLc-5B9snVhV= H-SLLw0oUkaakzVj543lA06WtwL9oqC0dV7Ztx1tR_grx6s$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7a4XPBhPnupSTC6VH9finfNizRCPOtguJLc-5B9snVhV= H-SLLw0oUkaakzVj543lA06WtwL9oqC0dV7Ztx1twaZjM2Y$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Sep 21 16:00:20 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 211600
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1200 PM EDT Sun Sep 21 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN THE VICINITY OF
    THE KANSAS/OKLAHOMA/ARKANSAS/MISSOURI BORDER AREA...

    ...16Z Update...

    ...Central/Southern Plains to the Mid-Mississippi Valley...

    The inherited Slight Risk for portions of the
    Missouri/Kansas/Oklahoma/Arkansas region has been expanded=20
    southward across much of far eastern Oklahoma with this update. 12Z
    guidance has some agreement that once the area of showers and=20
    storms moving along the OK/TX border moves through eastern Oklahoma
    and into Arkansas later this afternoon, a renewed area of=20
    convection forms along a trailing boundary somewhere in eastern=20
    Oklahoma. While the agreement on where that trailing boundary will=20
    set up is poor, there is far better agreement that it may result in
    multiple hours of trailing thunderstorms in a narrow corridor=20
    aligned northwest to southeast. Perhaps with some persistence bias=20
    given the events of last night where narrow corridors of 4-6 inches
    of rain fell further north, resulting in localized flash flooding,
    confidence has increased for such an event to occur again a bit=20
    further south tonight. While rainfall amounts are expected to be
    lesser in this area tonight, any additional rainfall on top of
    areas hard hit tonight could cause renewed stream, creek, and river
    rises, so the Slight Risk in that area is maintained.

    Further north into Missouri, there is less confidence due to lesser instability. While the potential for training is high, how strong
    those storms get and how long they persist and where those most
    persistent bands set up across Missouri and into Illinois is of low
    certainty. Thus, for now the Marginal is maintained, but the Slight
    may need to be expanded on short-notice should the storms show the
    ability to produce heavy rains for an extended period of time.

    ...Southwest...

    Few changes were needed, as the forecast described below in the
    previous discussion remains valid.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central-Southern Plains into the Mid Mississippi Valley...
    Additional shortwave energy will be diving east southeastward
    through the base of the mean trof centered through the Central to
    Southern Plains into the Middle Mississippi Valley. These height
    falls will help strengthen the low level west south west to
    southwesterly flow into a west to east northeasterly oriented low
    level boundary stretching from the Southern Plains into the Middle
    Mississippi Valley. This will support another round of convection
    pushing east from central to eastern KS/OK into much of MO,
    northwest AR and central to Southern IL. A slight risk area was
    added in the vicinity of the KS/OK/AR/MO border area that has seen
    heavy rains over the past 24 hours and may see additional heavy
    totals later in the upcoming day 1 period. Otherwise, there were no
    significant changes made to the previous marginal risk area, that
    continues to fit well with the latest axis of high HREF
    neighborhood probabilities for 1 and 2"+ amounts during the
    upcoming day 1 period. Across these areas, relative soil moistures
    remain very low, which should help mitigate runoff issues, at least
    initially.

    ...Southern California into Arizona...
    The closed low initially off the Central California coast will be
    drifting only slowly southward day 1 to a position off the
    Southern California coast. A jet streak on the eastern side of this
    upper trof will keep favorable right entrance region jet dynamics
    over Southern CA into Arizona. This will help accentuate lift in
    an axis of anomalous PW values, 1 to 3+ standard deviations above
    the mean that are expected to persist across these areas day 1.
    This should support potential for additional widespread scattered
    convection, locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE
    CENTRAL TO SOUTHERN PLAINS, MIDDLE TO LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND
    OHIO VALLEY AND ACROSS ARIZONA INTO WESTERN NEW MEXICO...

    ...Mid to Lower Mississippi Valley into the Ohio Valley...
    The height falls pushing east southeastward day 1 into the Central
    to Southern Plains and toward the Mid Mississippi Valley will
    continue to move eastward through the Ohio Valley day 2. Well
    defined large scale lift in an axis of above average PW values, 1
    to 1.5+ standard deviations above the mean, will support the
    likelihood of widespread moderate to heavy precipitation in an
    axis from northern AR, far southeast MO, far southeast IL, western
    to central KY, much of IN and OH. At the moment the convection
    across these areas may be fairly progressive. This and very low
    relative soil moistures, much of the area in moderate to severe
    drought, will keep the risk level at marginal for the time being.
    With respect to changes to the previous issuance, the northern edge
    of the marginal risk was trimmed to the south by about 50-75 miles
    to account for the latest model consensus.

    ...Central to Southern Plains...
    The marginal risk area from the previous issuance was expanded
    slightly westward into western KS to cover the model spread with
    the next round of convection forming ahead of the upstream
    amplifying height falls dropping southeastward late
    day 1 from the Northern Rockies into the Central Rockies/Lee of the
    Central Rockies on day 2. The GFS and NAM begin to diverge day 2
    with the track of this closing off mid to upper level center, with
    the NAM taking a more southeastward track into the Central Plains,
    while the GFS takes a more south southeastward track into the
    Central Rockies. The NAM solution, at the moment, is an outlier
    with the EC, UKMET and CMC more in line with the GFS. The
    differing mid to upper evolutions have more of a qpf impact over
    south central WY into north central CO, where the more southeast
    NAM solution is much lighter than the remainder of the guidance. Do
    not believe there will be any runoff issues farther northwest
    across CO/WY given lack of instability. While models differ farther
    to the southeast, there are still non NAM solutions that have
    potentially heavy rains as far northwest as northwest KS day 2,
    supporting the west northwest expansion from the previous
    issuance.

    ...Southwest...
    The closed low off the Southern CA coast day 1 is expected to move
    little on day 2. The right entrance region of the jet streak to
    the east of this closed low will push eastward from its day 1
    position, but continue to support uvvs enhancement in the above
    average PW axis, 1 to 3 standard deviations above the mean, that
    will remain in place across Southern CA into the Southwest.
    Additional scattered convection across these areas will support
    localized heavy amounts and isolated runoff issues. The previous
    marginal risk area was expanded westward into southeast CA to cover
    the model qpf spread.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, NORTHERN ARKANSAS, NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA AND SOUTHEAST
    KANSAS...

    There continues to be model differences in the evolution of the mid
    to upper level trof over the Central to Southern Plains toward the
    Mid Mississippi Valley. The NAM continues to be an outlier in being
    more amplified and faster to push the height falls downstream.
    Despite the differences, models do show re-strengthening of the low
    level southwesterly flow ahead of surface low pressure moving east
    across Oklahoma into Arkansas. This will support potential for
    organized convection, that likely forms late day 2 to the north of
    this low across the Central Plains, continuing day 3 from southeast KS/northeast OK, across Southern MO and northern AR. Model
    consensus is for the heaviest totals across these areas with
    amounts of 2-4" possible. This heavy axis will possibly overlap
    where heavy rains have fallen over the past 24 hours and where
    additional heavy rains are possible during the day 1 period. There
    were no major changes to the slight risk area from the previous
    issuance. The marginal risk was extended farther westward into
    northeast CO where several models show heavy rain potential day 3.
    The eastern portion of the marginal risk was also extended into the
    Upper OH Valley to cover the model qpf spread.

    ...Southern to Central California...
    The nearly stationary closed low off the Southern CA coast day 2
    will begin to slowly move back to the north on day 3 toward the
    Central CA coast. This slow north movement will also allow for a
    northward expansion of the anomalous PW values over Southern CA
    into Central CA, with values as high as 3-4 standard deviations
    above the mean. There are differences with qpf distributions given
    differences with the northward push of the closed low. Not a lot
    of confidence in any solution at this range, but continued
    potential for locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues,
    especially over any burn scars. No changes made at the moment to
    the previous broad marginal risk area over Southern to Central CA.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_5UsLwW_eu2rF1FjfyQGvaVBr7V1tf5So_rFXDDMpaTc= 15dP6e8YyZhEE0di6PiYzab1SUeMVl1joYCWdRVc9WYLsF0$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_5UsLwW_eu2rF1FjfyQGvaVBr7V1tf5So_rFXDDMpaTc= 15dP6e8YyZhEE0di6PiYzab1SUeMVl1joYCWdRVcDESC76U$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_5UsLwW_eu2rF1FjfyQGvaVBr7V1tf5So_rFXDDMpaTc= 15dP6e8YyZhEE0di6PiYzab1SUeMVl1joYCWdRVcfEaLhrY$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Sep 21 19:02:44 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 211902
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    302 PM EDT Sun Sep 21 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN THE VICINITY OF
    THE KANSAS/OKLAHOMA/ARKANSAS/MISSOURI BORDER AREA...

    ...16Z Update...

    ...Central/Southern Plains to the Mid-Mississippi Valley...

    The inherited Slight Risk for portions of the
    Missouri/Kansas/Oklahoma/Arkansas region has been expanded
    southward across much of far eastern Oklahoma with this update. 12Z
    guidance has some agreement that once the area of showers and
    storms moving along the OK/TX border moves through eastern Oklahoma
    and into Arkansas later this afternoon, a renewed area of
    convection forms along a trailing boundary somewhere in eastern
    Oklahoma. While the agreement on where that trailing boundary will
    set up is poor, there is far better agreement that it may result in
    multiple hours of trailing thunderstorms in a narrow corridor
    aligned northwest to southeast. Perhaps with some persistence bias
    given the events of last night where narrow corridors of 4-6 inches
    of rain fell further north, resulting in localized flash flooding,
    confidence has increased for such an event to occur again a bit
    further south tonight. While rainfall amounts are expected to be
    lesser in this area tonight, any additional rainfall on top of
    areas hard hit tonight could cause renewed stream, creek, and river
    rises, so the Slight Risk in that area is maintained.

    Further north into Missouri, there is less confidence due to lesser instability. While the potential for training is high, how strong
    those storms get and how long they persist and where those most
    persistent bands set up across Missouri and into Illinois is of low
    certainty. Thus, for now the Marginal is maintained, but the Slight
    may need to be expanded on short-notice should the storms show the
    ability to produce heavy rains for an extended period of time.

    ...Southwest...

    Few changes were needed, as the forecast described below in the
    previous discussion remains valid.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central-Southern Plains into the Mid Mississippi Valley...
    Additional shortwave energy will be diving east southeastward
    through the base of the mean trof centered through the Central to
    Southern Plains into the Middle Mississippi Valley. These height
    falls will help strengthen the low level west south west to
    southwesterly flow into a west to east northeasterly oriented low
    level boundary stretching from the Southern Plains into the Middle
    Mississippi Valley. This will support another round of convection
    pushing east from central to eastern KS/OK into much of MO,
    northwest AR and central to Southern IL. A slight risk area was
    added in the vicinity of the KS/OK/AR/MO border area that has seen
    heavy rains over the past 24 hours and may see additional heavy
    totals later in the upcoming day 1 period. Otherwise, there were no
    significant changes made to the previous marginal risk area, that
    continues to fit well with the latest axis of high HREF
    neighborhood probabilities for 1 and 2"+ amounts during the
    upcoming day 1 period. Across these areas, relative soil moistures
    remain very low, which should help mitigate runoff issues, at least
    initially.

    ...Southern California into Arizona...
    The closed low initially off the Central California coast will be
    drifting only slowly southward day 1 to a position off the
    Southern California coast. A jet streak on the eastern side of this
    upper trof will keep favorable right entrance region jet dynamics
    over Southern CA into Arizona. This will help accentuate lift in
    an axis of anomalous PW values, 1 to 3+ standard deviations above
    the mean that are expected to persist across these areas day 1.
    This should support potential for additional widespread scattered
    convection, locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE
    CENTRAL TO SOUTHERN PLAINS, MIDDLE TO LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND
    OHIO VALLEY AND ACROSS ARIZONA INTO WESTERN NEW MEXICO...

    19z Update: There may be an opportunity to add in a Slight risk or
    two on future updates, by for now we will maintain the broad
    Marginal risk from portions of the Plains into the OH and TN=20
    Valley. The 12z high res guidance indicates one area of heavier
    rainfall (upwards of 2-4") across portions of central KY and TN.
    Considered a targeted Slight risk here, but this is a notable QPF
    uptick from the previous cycle, and would prefer to wait for
    another cycle to see if the signal remains consistent. On top of=20
    that, FFG is quite high over this area, and so even with the=20
    increased QPF signal the HREF probabilities of exceeding 3hr FFG=20
    remain low.

    Another area to watch is western to central KS into northern OK where
    a convective complex is expected Monday night into early Tuesday.=20
    At least some training appears probable, but the extent remains a=20
    bit uncertain. Thus the Marginal risk should suffice for now.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Mid to Lower Mississippi Valley into the Ohio Valley...
    The height falls pushing east southeastward day 1 into the Central
    to Southern Plains and toward the Mid Mississippi Valley will
    continue to move eastward through the Ohio Valley day 2. Well
    defined large scale lift in an axis of above average PW values, 1
    to 1.5+ standard deviations above the mean, will support the
    likelihood of widespread moderate to heavy precipitation in an
    axis from northern AR, far southeast MO, far southeast IL, western
    to central KY, much of IN and OH. At the moment the convection
    across these areas may be fairly progressive. This and very low
    relative soil moistures, much of the area in moderate to severe
    drought, will keep the risk level at marginal for the time being.
    With respect to changes to the previous issuance, the northern edge
    of the marginal risk was trimmed to the south by about 50-75 miles
    to account for the latest model consensus.

    ...Central to Southern Plains...
    The marginal risk area from the previous issuance was expanded
    slightly westward into western KS to cover the model spread with
    the next round of convection forming ahead of the upstream
    amplifying height falls dropping southeastward late
    day 1 from the Northern Rockies into the Central Rockies/Lee of the
    Central Rockies on day 2. The GFS and NAM begin to diverge day 2
    with the track of this closing off mid to upper level center, with
    the NAM taking a more southeastward track into the Central Plains,
    while the GFS takes a more south southeastward track into the
    Central Rockies. The NAM solution, at the moment, is an outlier
    with the EC, UKMET and CMC more in line with the GFS. The
    differing mid to upper evolutions have more of a qpf impact over
    south central WY into north central CO, where the more southeast
    NAM solution is much lighter than the remainder of the guidance. Do
    not believe there will be any runoff issues farther northwest
    across CO/WY given lack of instability. While models differ farther
    to the southeast, there are still non NAM solutions that have
    potentially heavy rains as far northwest as northwest KS day 2,
    supporting the west northwest expansion from the previous
    issuance.

    ...Southwest...
    The closed low off the Southern CA coast day 1 is expected to move
    little on day 2. The right entrance region of the jet streak to
    the east of this closed low will push eastward from its day 1
    position, but continue to support uvvs enhancement in the above
    average PW axis, 1 to 3 standard deviations above the mean, that
    will remain in place across Southern CA into the Southwest.
    Additional scattered convection across these areas will support
    localized heavy amounts and isolated runoff issues. The previous
    marginal risk area was expanded westward into southeast CA to cover
    the model qpf spread.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, NORTHERN ARKANSAS, NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA AND SOUTHEAST
    KANSAS...

    19z Update: On Tuesday an uptick in the flash flood risk is=20
    expected across portions of eastern OK, southeast KS, southern MO=20
    and northern AR. Mid level shortwave energy, favorable upper jet
    dynamics and strong low level moisture transport all support an
    organized convective risk. Model instability forecasts are
    sufficient for deep convection capable of heavy rainfall rates,=20
    and PWs of at least 1-2 SD above average are expected. The current=20
    model consensus is for the max rainfall axis to stretch from west=20
    to east near the AR/MO border. This axis also saw heavy rainfall=20
    last night, and could very well see additional areas of heavier=20
    rain through Monday. When considering these antecedent conditions,
    an upgrade to a MDT risk may be needed on future updates across=20
    portions of the area. However, we are still pretty far out, and=20
    there remains some latitudinal spread with the heaviest rainfall=20
    axis. This event will soon move into the range of more of the high=20
    res models, at which point we will likely see some fine tuning and=20
    adjusting of the rainfall axis and magnitudes. Thus we will hold=20
    off on any upgrade, and still consider this a higher end Slight=20
    risk area. Either way would expect at least scattered instances of
    flash flooding Tuesday, some of which could be locally considerable.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    There continues to be model differences in the evolution of the mid
    to upper level trof over the Central to Southern Plains toward the
    Mid Mississippi Valley. The NAM continues to be an outlier in being
    more amplified and faster to push the height falls downstream.
    Despite the differences, models do show re-strengthening of the low
    level southwesterly flow ahead of surface low pressure moving east
    across Oklahoma into Arkansas. This will support potential for
    organized convection, that likely forms late day 2 to the north of
    this low across the Central Plains, continuing day 3 from southeast KS/northeast OK, across Southern MO and northern AR. Model
    consensus is for the heaviest totals across these areas with
    amounts of 2-4" possible. This heavy axis will possibly overlap
    where heavy rains have fallen over the past 24 hours and where
    additional heavy rains are possible during the day 1 period. There
    were no major changes to the slight risk area from the previous
    issuance. The marginal risk was extended farther westward into
    northeast CO where several models show heavy rain potential day 3.
    The eastern portion of the marginal risk was also extended into the
    Upper OH Valley to cover the model qpf spread.

    ...Southern to Central California...
    The nearly stationary closed low off the Southern CA coast day 2
    will begin to slowly move back to the north on day 3 toward the
    Central CA coast. This slow north movement will also allow for a
    northward expansion of the anomalous PW values over Southern CA
    into Central CA, with values as high as 3-4 standard deviations
    above the mean. There are differences with qpf distributions given
    differences with the northward push of the closed low. Not a lot
    of confidence in any solution at this range, but continued
    potential for locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues,
    especially over any burn scars. No changes made at the moment to
    the previous broad marginal risk area over Southern to Central CA.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!53vZvBQjfeVOLpokbfnH09UBUnsiIhQycEtcm6bf2K9U= MBmjS7vMUF4hwmskHlj62euYqyxNkTTRnlXgtWTWxmlIigg$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!53vZvBQjfeVOLpokbfnH09UBUnsiIhQycEtcm6bf2K9U= MBmjS7vMUF4hwmskHlj62euYqyxNkTTRnlXgtWTWvkAhyQ4$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!53vZvBQjfeVOLpokbfnH09UBUnsiIhQycEtcm6bf2K9U= MBmjS7vMUF4hwmskHlj62euYqyxNkTTRnlXgtWTWVyGByEs$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 220046
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    846 PM EDT Sun Sep 21 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN AND NEAR
    NORTHWEST ARKANSAS...

    ...Central-Southern Plains into the Mid Mississippi Valley...
    While an initial shortwave is moving towards the MO/AR/OK border
    junction currently, another shortwave is upstream across eastern
    KS. Fairly unidirectional flow out of the west-southwest will exist
    ahead of the KS shortwave. Along with 25-35 kts of effective bulk
    shear and a broad area of 500-1500 J/kg of MU CAPE will support=20
    continued convection from southeast OK through northwest AR into
    southern MO. Adding to the flash flood sensitivity is heavy=20
    rainfall which occurred across portions of northeast OK, northwest=20
    AR, and southwest MO over the past 24 hours. A Slight Risk area=20
    remains across portions of this region, which were advised by
    continuity, radar reflectivity trends, the 18z HREF, and the 12z=20
    REFS guidance.


    ...Southern California into Arizona...
    An upper level trough across central CA will keep favorable right=20
    entrance region jet dynamics over Southern CA into Arizona. While
    ongoing convection has been mainly constrained to southeast AZ,
    some of the mesoscale guidance suggests renewed activity across
    portions of western and central AZ as the upper level trough
    interacts with lingering 500-3000 J/kg of MU CAPE, with more than=20
    sufficient effective bulk shear available to organize convection.=20
    As moisture remains above average here as well, locally heavy rains
    and isolated runoff issues are expected intermittently through=20
    12z.


    ...Southern Minnesota...
    Convection under the base of an upper level low moving across
    central MN is expected to persist overnight within an environment
    of 1.25"+ precipitable water values and 1000-2000 J/kg of MU CAPE,
    with plentiful effective bulk shear to potentially enhance=20
    convective organization. Given the moisture values, believe any
    heavy rain-related issues would be isolated. Added a Marginal Risk
    into this area per the ingredients listed above and the 12z=20
    REFS/18z HREF probabilities of 2"+ through 12z. Hourly amounts to
    1.5" with local totals to 3" are possible where cells manage to
    train and/or merge.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE
    CENTRAL TO SOUTHERN PLAINS, MIDDLE TO LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND
    OHIO VALLEY AND ACROSS ARIZONA INTO WESTERN NEW MEXICO...

    19z Update: There may be an opportunity to add in a Slight risk or
    two on future updates, by for now we will maintain the broad
    Marginal risk from portions of the Plains into the OH and TN
    Valley. The 12z high res guidance indicates one area of heavier
    rainfall (upwards of 2-4") across portions of central KY and TN.
    Considered a targeted Slight risk here, but this is a notable QPF
    uptick from the previous cycle, and would prefer to wait for
    another cycle to see if the signal remains consistent. On top of
    that, FFG is quite high over this area, and so even with the
    increased QPF signal the HREF probabilities of exceeding 3hr FFG
    remain low.

    Another area to watch is western to central KS into northern OK where
    a convective complex is expected Monday night into early Tuesday.
    At least some training appears probable, but the extent remains a
    bit uncertain. Thus the Marginal risk should suffice for now.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Mid to Lower Mississippi Valley into the Ohio Valley...
    The height falls pushing east southeastward day 1 into the Central
    to Southern Plains and toward the Mid Mississippi Valley will
    continue to move eastward through the Ohio Valley day 2. Well
    defined large scale lift in an axis of above average PW values, 1
    to 1.5+ standard deviations above the mean, will support the
    likelihood of widespread moderate to heavy precipitation in an
    axis from northern AR, far southeast MO, far southeast IL, western
    to central KY, much of IN and OH. At the moment the convection
    across these areas may be fairly progressive. This and very low
    relative soil moistures, much of the area in moderate to severe
    drought, will keep the risk level at marginal for the time being.
    With respect to changes to the previous issuance, the northern edge
    of the marginal risk was trimmed to the south by about 50-75 miles
    to account for the latest model consensus.

    ...Central to Southern Plains...
    The marginal risk area from the previous issuance was expanded
    slightly westward into western KS to cover the model spread with
    the next round of convection forming ahead of the upstream
    amplifying height falls dropping southeastward late
    day 1 from the Northern Rockies into the Central Rockies/Lee of the
    Central Rockies on day 2. The GFS and NAM begin to diverge day 2
    with the track of this closing off mid to upper level center, with
    the NAM taking a more southeastward track into the Central Plains,
    while the GFS takes a more south southeastward track into the
    Central Rockies. The NAM solution, at the moment, is an outlier
    with the EC, UKMET and CMC more in line with the GFS. The
    differing mid to upper evolutions have more of a qpf impact over
    south central WY into north central CO, where the more southeast
    NAM solution is much lighter than the remainder of the guidance. Do
    not believe there will be any runoff issues farther northwest
    across CO/WY given lack of instability. While models differ farther
    to the southeast, there are still non NAM solutions that have
    potentially heavy rains as far northwest as northwest KS day 2,
    supporting the west northwest expansion from the previous
    issuance.

    ...Southwest...
    The closed low off the Southern CA coast day 1 is expected to move
    little on day 2. The right entrance region of the jet streak to
    the east of this closed low will push eastward from its day 1
    position, but continue to support uvvs enhancement in the above
    average PW axis, 1 to 3 standard deviations above the mean, that
    will remain in place across Southern CA into the Southwest.
    Additional scattered convection across these areas will support
    localized heavy amounts and isolated runoff issues. The previous
    marginal risk area was expanded westward into southeast CA to cover
    the model qpf spread.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, NORTHERN ARKANSAS, NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA AND SOUTHEAST
    KANSAS...

    19z Update: On Tuesday an uptick in the flash flood risk is
    expected across portions of eastern OK, southeast KS, southern MO
    and northern AR. Mid level shortwave energy, favorable upper jet
    dynamics and strong low level moisture transport all support an
    organized convective risk. Model instability forecasts are
    sufficient for deep convection capable of heavy rainfall rates,
    and PWs of at least 1-2 SD above average are expected. The current
    model consensus is for the max rainfall axis to stretch from west
    to east near the AR/MO border. This axis also saw heavy rainfall
    last night, and could very well see additional areas of heavier
    rain through Monday. When considering these antecedent conditions,
    an upgrade to a MDT risk may be needed on future updates across
    portions of the area. However, we are still pretty far out, and
    there remains some latitudinal spread with the heaviest rainfall
    axis. This event will soon move into the range of more of the high
    res models, at which point we will likely see some fine tuning and
    adjusting of the rainfall axis and magnitudes. Thus we will hold
    off on any upgrade, and still consider this a higher end Slight
    risk area. Either way would expect at least scattered instances of
    flash flooding Tuesday, some of which could be locally considerable.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    There continues to be model differences in the evolution of the mid
    to upper level trof over the Central to Southern Plains toward the
    Mid Mississippi Valley. The NAM continues to be an outlier in being
    more amplified and faster to push the height falls downstream.
    Despite the differences, models do show re-strengthening of the low
    level southwesterly flow ahead of surface low pressure moving east
    across Oklahoma into Arkansas. This will support potential for
    organized convection, that likely forms late day 2 to the north of
    this low across the Central Plains, continuing day 3 from southeast KS/northeast OK, across Southern MO and northern AR. Model
    consensus is for the heaviest totals across these areas with
    amounts of 2-4" possible. This heavy axis will possibly overlap
    where heavy rains have fallen over the past 24 hours and where
    additional heavy rains are possible during the day 1 period. There
    were no major changes to the slight risk area from the previous
    issuance. The marginal risk was extended farther westward into
    northeast CO where several models show heavy rain potential day 3.
    The eastern portion of the marginal risk was also extended into the
    Upper OH Valley to cover the model qpf spread.

    ...Southern to Central California...
    The nearly stationary closed low off the Southern CA coast day 2
    will begin to slowly move back to the north on day 3 toward the
    Central CA coast. This slow north movement will also allow for a
    northward expansion of the anomalous PW values over Southern CA
    into Central CA, with values as high as 3-4 standard deviations
    above the mean. There are differences with qpf distributions given
    differences with the northward push of the closed low. Not a lot
    of confidence in any solution at this range, but continued
    potential for locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues,
    especially over any burn scars. No changes made at the moment to
    the previous broad marginal risk area over Southern to Central CA.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!89DQGVhHmg8BsgSkY1cstxr58Oofnh1tlb8fZWzWw-CZ= TPjBP-9z2Mh_WmDRg4l9C5ERosBnoUHnVsQ0xzckXP0FuJc$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!89DQGVhHmg8BsgSkY1cstxr58Oofnh1tlb8fZWzWw-CZ= TPjBP-9z2Mh_WmDRg4l9C5ERosBnoUHnVsQ0xzckPdPtY_E$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!89DQGVhHmg8BsgSkY1cstxr58Oofnh1tlb8fZWzWw-CZ= TPjBP-9z2Mh_WmDRg4l9C5ERosBnoUHnVsQ0xzckjhFycl8$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Sep 22 08:21:58 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 220821
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    421 AM EDT Mon Sep 22 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTH
    CENTRAL KANSAS INTO NORTH CENTRAL OKLAHOMA...

    ...Central to Southern Plains...
    The latest model suite is in better agreement with the evolution=20
    of the amplifying upper trof across the Northern to Central Rockies
    day 1 and the downstream outbreak of organized convection along=20
    and to the north of the path of the associated surface low moving=20
    west to east from the TX Panhandle into western OK. A slight risk=20
    area was added for the potential for organized convection along and
    to the north of this low, across areas of south-central KS into=20 north-central OK where the low level southerly flow will be
    strengthening and the corresponding 850-700 mb moisture flux
    becoming anomalous, upwards to 2 to 3 standard deviations above=20
    the mean by the end of the day 1 period. The neighborhood=20
    probabilities are high in both the HREF and RRFS for 1 and 2"+=20
    amounts across these areas. Additionally, both the HREF and RRFS=20
    show a defined area of probabilities exceeding the 3 hourly FFG=20
    values in the 0000-1200 UTC Tuesday time frame as the potentially=20
    organized convection presses east southeastward.=20

    ...Mid to Lower Mississippi Valley into the Ohio Valley...
    A broad marginal risk area was maintained in association with height
    falls pushing east northeastward from the Mid Mississippi Valley=20
    through the Ohio Valley. Well defined large scale lift in an axis=20
    of above average PW values, 1 to 1.5+ standard deviations above the
    mean, will support the likelihood of widespread moderate to heavy=20 precipitation in an axis from northern AR, far southeast MO, far=20
    southeast IL, western to central KY, much of IN and OH. At the=20
    moment the convection across these areas may be fairly progressive.
    This and very low relative soil moistures, much of the area in=20
    moderate to severe drought, will keep the risk level at marginal=20
    for the time being. While the HREF and RRFS neighborhood=20
    probabilities are fairly high for 1 and 2"+ amounts day 1, the HREF
    and RRFS probabilities for 3 hour rainfall exceeding FFG values=20
    remains very low, reflecting the antecedent very dry conditions.=20

    ...Southwest...
    The closed low off the Southern CA coast is expected to move=20
    little during the upcoming day 1 period. The right entrance region
    of the jet streak to the east of this closed low will push=20
    eastward, but continue to support uvvs enhancement in the above=20
    average PW axis, 1 to 3 standard deviations above the mean, that=20
    will remain in place across Southern CA into the Southwest.=20
    Additional scattered convection across these areas will support=20
    localized heavy amounts and isolated runoff issues. No changes were
    made to the previous marginal risk area.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, NORTHERN ARKANSAS, NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA AND SOUTHEAST
    KANSAS...


    The strengthening 850-700 mb moisture flux late day 1 over the
    Southern Plains will remain anomalous day 2 as surface low=20
    pressure continues to push eastward from the Southern Plains toward
    the Lower Mississippi Valley. 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies=20
    are forecast to remain in the 2 to 3+ standard deviation above the=20
    mean level. This will support the likelihood for the continuation=20
    of the day 1 organized convection over the Southern Plains, pushing
    eastward into the Lower Arkansas Valley and toward the Mid to Lower
    MS Valley. There are differences with the track of the primary
    surface low, resulting in north to south spread with respect to
    where the max precip axis will be. WPC is favoring the more
    southern qpf axes solutions, with the max axis depicted from far
    eastern OK, northern OK/far southern MO into western TN. This is a
    slight southward trend from previous forecasts, reflecting a
    southward trend in qpf guidance. Changes to the previous slight and
    25% areas were to follow the slight southward qpf axis trend,
    pushing them approximately 40-60 miles farther to the south.=20=20

    ...Coastal Central California...=20
    There is good model agreement with the nearly stationary closed=20
    low off the Southern CA coast day 1 beginning to slowly move back=20
    to the north on day 2 toward the Central CA coast. This slow north
    movement will also allow for a northward expansion of the=20
    anomalous PW values over Southern CA into coastal Central CA, with
    values as high as 3-4 standard deviations above the mean. With good
    model agreement on the closed low track day 2, there is also good
    agreement on potential for areal average moderate precip totals,
    with potential for locally heavier amount along the Central CA
    coast. Isolated runoff issues are possible, especially over any=20
    burn scars.=20

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    The mid to upper level trof moving east from the Southern Plains
    day 2 will amplify day 3 as it pushes into the Lower MS Valley.
    Anomalous PW and 850-700 moisture flux values will stretch across a
    large area from the Lower MS Valley, and into the TN & OH Valley,=20
    Central Appalachians and the Mid-Atlantic. Model consensus is for a
    broad region of moderate to heavy precip in this anomalous PW and=20
    850-700 mb moisture flux axis. There is a typical amount of qpf=20
    spread for a day 3 time period. WPC is leaning more toward the=20
    multi model ensemble qpf mean axis/NBM axis to drive our qpf and=20
    excessive rainfall axis. While a large portion of the day 3 QPF and
    ERO axes are currently in moderate to severe drought, there may be
    overlap in qpf areas from day 3 and day 1 over the TN and OH=20
    Valley regions and overlap between the day 2 and day 3 qpf axes=20
    across the Lower MS Valley into the TN Valley, which will likely=20
    increase soil saturations and increase stream flows. The previous=20
    slight risk area was trimmed on the western edge by approximately=20
    75-100 miles across far southeast MO, southern IL and southern IN=20
    to better fit the latest QPF.=20


    ...Central California...
    The slow moving closed low approaching the central CA coast late
    day 2 will continue to push slowly eastward day 3 and push inland
    by early Thursday morning. Similar to the day 2 period, an axis of
    anomalous PW values, 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean,
    will persist to the east northeast of the closed low across
    Central CA. Scattered convection in this anomalous PW axis will
    support locally heavy rains across Central CA and isolated runoff
    issues, especially across burn scar regions. Only some small
    changes made to the previous marginal risk area, trimming it
    westward across western NV.

    ...Far southeast Arizona into New Mexico...
    No changes of note made to the previous marginal risk area across
    this region. Scattered convection possible, with localized heavy
    rain and isolated runoff issues, especially in burn scar regions.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5sFWbwUeOsvsKSUj3ywufAO3nYvTJ2sjZINHDiEIQdyA= o0ulud_GO1mRLAqiQWKoJ4cZHDmgs2qGRv1NNDdVnBBDDKE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5sFWbwUeOsvsKSUj3ywufAO3nYvTJ2sjZINHDiEIQdyA= o0ulud_GO1mRLAqiQWKoJ4cZHDmgs2qGRv1NNDdVrDNVvAU$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5sFWbwUeOsvsKSUj3ywufAO3nYvTJ2sjZINHDiEIQdyA= o0ulud_GO1mRLAqiQWKoJ4cZHDmgs2qGRv1NNDdV_AEo_Gc$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 221559
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1159 AM EDT Mon Sep 22 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTH
    CENTRAL KANSAS INTO NORTH CENTRAL OKLAHOMA...

    ...16z update...

    The marginal risk area was expanded into southern Minnesota, where
    a surface boundary, 1500J/Kg+ CAPE, and 1in.+ PWATs could continue
    to produce thunderstorms leading to localized flash flooding
    through early this evening. The marginal risk in the Southwest was
    expanded slightly into southwestern New Mexico to account for=20
    wetter trends in the guidance and antecedent conditions (anomalous=20
    moisture and notable instability).

    Kebede

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central to Southern Plains...
    The latest model suite is in better agreement with the evolution
    of the amplifying upper trof across the Northern to Central Rockies
    day 1 and the downstream outbreak of organized convection along
    and to the north of the path of the associated surface low moving
    west to east from the TX Panhandle into western OK. A slight risk
    area was added for the potential for organized convection along and
    to the north of this low, across areas of south-central KS into
    north-central OK where the low level southerly flow will be
    strengthening and the corresponding 850-700 mb moisture flux
    becoming anomalous, upwards to 2 to 3 standard deviations above
    the mean by the end of the day 1 period. The neighborhood
    probabilities are high in both the HREF and RRFS for 1 and 2"+
    amounts across these areas. Additionally, both the HREF and RRFS
    show a defined area of probabilities exceeding the 3 hourly FFG
    values in the 0000-1200 UTC Tuesday time frame as the potentially
    organized convection presses east southeastward.

    ...Mid to Lower Mississippi Valley into the Ohio Valley...
    A broad marginal risk area was maintained in association with height
    falls pushing east northeastward from the Mid Mississippi Valley
    through the Ohio Valley. Well defined large scale lift in an axis
    of above average PW values, 1 to 1.5+ standard deviations above the
    mean, will support the likelihood of widespread moderate to heavy
    precipitation in an axis from northern AR, far southeast MO, far
    southeast IL, western to central KY, much of IN and OH. At the
    moment the convection across these areas may be fairly progressive.
    This and very low relative soil moistures, much of the area in
    moderate to severe drought, will keep the risk level at marginal
    for the time being. While the HREF and RRFS neighborhood
    probabilities are fairly high for 1 and 2"+ amounts day 1, the HREF
    and RRFS probabilities for 3 hour rainfall exceeding FFG values
    remains very low, reflecting the antecedent very dry conditions.

    ...Southwest...
    The closed low off the Southern CA coast is expected to move
    little during the upcoming day 1 period. The right entrance region
    of the jet streak to the east of this closed low will push
    eastward, but continue to support uvvs enhancement in the above
    average PW axis, 1 to 3 standard deviations above the mean, that
    will remain in place across Southern CA into the Southwest.
    Additional scattered convection across these areas will support
    localized heavy amounts and isolated runoff issues. No changes were
    made to the previous marginal risk area.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, NORTHERN ARKANSAS, NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA AND SOUTHEAST
    KANSAS...


    The strengthening 850-700 mb moisture flux late day 1 over the
    Southern Plains will remain anomalous day 2 as surface low
    pressure continues to push eastward from the Southern Plains toward
    the Lower Mississippi Valley. 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies
    are forecast to remain in the 2 to 3+ standard deviation above the
    mean level. This will support the likelihood for the continuation
    of the day 1 organized convection over the Southern Plains, pushing
    eastward into the Lower Arkansas Valley and toward the Mid to Lower
    MS Valley. There are differences with the track of the primary
    surface low, resulting in north to south spread with respect to
    where the max precip axis will be. WPC is favoring the more
    southern qpf axes solutions, with the max axis depicted from far
    eastern OK, northern OK/far southern MO into western TN. This is a
    slight southward trend from previous forecasts, reflecting a
    southward trend in qpf guidance. Changes to the previous slight and
    25% areas were to follow the slight southward qpf axis trend,
    pushing them approximately 40-60 miles farther to the south.

    ...Coastal Central California...
    There is good model agreement with the nearly stationary closed
    low off the Southern CA coast day 1 beginning to slowly move back
    to the north on day 2 toward the Central CA coast. This slow north
    movement will also allow for a northward expansion of the
    anomalous PW values over Southern CA into coastal Central CA, with
    values as high as 3-4 standard deviations above the mean. With good
    model agreement on the closed low track day 2, there is also good
    agreement on potential for areal average moderate precip totals,
    with potential for locally heavier amount along the Central CA
    coast. Isolated runoff issues are possible, especially over any
    burn scars.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    The mid to upper level trof moving east from the Southern Plains
    day 2 will amplify day 3 as it pushes into the Lower MS Valley.
    Anomalous PW and 850-700 moisture flux values will stretch across a
    large area from the Lower MS Valley, and into the TN & OH Valley,
    Central Appalachians and the Mid-Atlantic. Model consensus is for a
    broad region of moderate to heavy precip in this anomalous PW and
    850-700 mb moisture flux axis. There is a typical amount of qpf
    spread for a day 3 time period. WPC is leaning more toward the
    multi model ensemble qpf mean axis/NBM axis to drive our qpf and
    excessive rainfall axis. While a large portion of the day 3 QPF and
    ERO axes are currently in moderate to severe drought, there may be
    overlap in qpf areas from day 3 and day 1 over the TN and OH
    Valley regions and overlap between the day 2 and day 3 qpf axes
    across the Lower MS Valley into the TN Valley, which will likely
    increase soil saturations and increase stream flows. The previous
    slight risk area was trimmed on the western edge by approximately
    75-100 miles across far southeast MO, southern IL and southern IN
    to better fit the latest QPF.


    ...Central California...
    The slow moving closed low approaching the central CA coast late
    day 2 will continue to push slowly eastward day 3 and push inland
    by early Thursday morning. Similar to the day 2 period, an axis of
    anomalous PW values, 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean,
    will persist to the east northeast of the closed low across
    Central CA. Scattered convection in this anomalous PW axis will
    support locally heavy rains across Central CA and isolated runoff
    issues, especially across burn scar regions. Only some small
    changes made to the previous marginal risk area, trimming it
    westward across western NV.

    ...Far southeast Arizona into New Mexico...
    No changes of note made to the previous marginal risk area across
    this region. Scattered convection possible, with localized heavy
    rain and isolated runoff issues, especially in burn scar regions.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_5OmZ-_rto3E1zVHtueb8p5dpRdXQfvsFO0GahsHNlCK= dXoOqmZCMtDac-NtjBBW6zWEBYpxCuar9UGOHI2yQdF4ISg$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_5OmZ-_rto3E1zVHtueb8p5dpRdXQfvsFO0GahsHNlCK= dXoOqmZCMtDac-NtjBBW6zWEBYpxCuar9UGOHI2ytdO7o-k$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_5OmZ-_rto3E1zVHtueb8p5dpRdXQfvsFO0GahsHNlCK= dXoOqmZCMtDac-NtjBBW6zWEBYpxCuar9UGOHI2y8bm5CXo$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Sep 22 19:01:09 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 221900
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    300 PM EDT Mon Sep 22 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTH
    CENTRAL KANSAS INTO NORTH CENTRAL OKLAHOMA...

    ...16z update...

    The marginal risk area was expanded into southern Minnesota, where
    a surface boundary, 1500J/Kg+ CAPE, and 1in.+ PWATs could continue
    to produce thunderstorms leading to localized flash flooding
    through early this evening. The marginal risk in the Southwest was
    expanded slightly into southwestern New Mexico to account for
    wetter trends in the guidance and antecedent conditions (anomalous
    moisture and notable instability).

    Kebede

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central to Southern Plains...
    The latest model suite is in better agreement with the evolution
    of the amplifying upper trof across the Northern to Central Rockies
    day 1 and the downstream outbreak of organized convection along
    and to the north of the path of the associated surface low moving
    west to east from the TX Panhandle into western OK. A slight risk
    area was added for the potential for organized convection along and
    to the north of this low, across areas of south-central KS into
    north-central OK where the low level southerly flow will be
    strengthening and the corresponding 850-700 mb moisture flux
    becoming anomalous, upwards to 2 to 3 standard deviations above
    the mean by the end of the day 1 period. The neighborhood
    probabilities are high in both the HREF and RRFS for 1 and 2"+
    amounts across these areas. Additionally, both the HREF and RRFS
    show a defined area of probabilities exceeding the 3 hourly FFG
    values in the 0000-1200 UTC Tuesday time frame as the potentially
    organized convection presses east southeastward.

    ...Mid to Lower Mississippi Valley into the Ohio Valley...
    A broad marginal risk area was maintained in association with height
    falls pushing east northeastward from the Mid Mississippi Valley
    through the Ohio Valley. Well defined large scale lift in an axis
    of above average PW values, 1 to 1.5+ standard deviations above the
    mean, will support the likelihood of widespread moderate to heavy
    precipitation in an axis from northern AR, far southeast MO, far
    southeast IL, western to central KY, much of IN and OH. At the
    moment the convection across these areas may be fairly progressive.
    This and very low relative soil moistures, much of the area in
    moderate to severe drought, will keep the risk level at marginal
    for the time being. While the HREF and RRFS neighborhood
    probabilities are fairly high for 1 and 2"+ amounts day 1, the HREF
    and RRFS probabilities for 3 hour rainfall exceeding FFG values
    remains very low, reflecting the antecedent very dry conditions.

    ...Southwest...
    The closed low off the Southern CA coast is expected to move
    little during the upcoming day 1 period. The right entrance region
    of the jet streak to the east of this closed low will push
    eastward, but continue to support uvvs enhancement in the above
    average PW axis, 1 to 3 standard deviations above the mean, that
    will remain in place across Southern CA into the Southwest.
    Additional scattered convection across these areas will support
    localized heavy amounts and isolated runoff issues. No changes were
    made to the previous marginal risk area.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS MISSOURI,=20
    ARKANSAS, EASTERN OKLAHOMA, WESTERN TENNESSEE, WESTERN KENTUCKY,
    SOUTHERN ILLINOIS, NORTHWESTERN MISSISSIPPI AND SOUTHEAST=20
    KANSAS...

    ...2030z update...

    The marginal risk area over central/southern California was removed
    from the Bay area based on drier trends in the qpf.=20

    The risk areas over the Central U.S. were expanded based on high=20
    12z HREF exceedence probabilities (2+ inches) across the Middle=20
    Mississippi Valley. Anomalous moisture and instability along a=20
    strong surface front should promote heavy rainfall. There's=20
    uncertainty on where exactly the axis of maximum rainfall will=20
    develop, due to the global and hires models' difficulty resolving=20
    potential phasing over the Central U.S. on Tuesday.

    Kebede

    The strengthening 850-700 mb moisture flux late day 1 over the
    Southern Plains will remain anomalous day 2 as surface low
    pressure continues to push eastward from the Southern Plains toward
    the Lower Mississippi Valley. 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies
    are forecast to remain in the 2 to 3+ standard deviation above the
    mean level. This will support the likelihood for the continuation
    of the day 1 organized convection over the Southern Plains, pushing
    eastward into the Lower Arkansas Valley and toward the Mid to Lower
    MS Valley. There are differences with the track of the primary
    surface low, resulting in north to south spread with respect to
    where the max precip axis will be. WPC is favoring the more
    southern qpf axes solutions, with the max axis depicted from far
    eastern OK, northern OK/far southern MO into western TN. This is a
    slight southward trend from previous forecasts, reflecting a
    southward trend in qpf guidance. Changes to the previous slight and
    25% areas were to follow the slight southward qpf axis trend,
    pushing them approximately 40-60 miles farther to the south.

    ...Coastal Central California...
    There is good model agreement with the nearly stationary closed
    low off the Southern CA coast day 1 beginning to slowly move back
    to the north on day 2 toward the Central CA coast. This slow north
    movement will also allow for a northward expansion of the
    anomalous PW values over Southern CA into coastal Central CA, with
    values as high as 3-4 standard deviations above the mean. With good
    model agreement on the closed low track day 2, there is also good
    agreement on potential for areal average moderate precip totals,
    with potential for locally heavier amount along the Central CA
    coast. Isolated runoff issues are possible, especially over any
    burn scars.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    ...2030z update...

    The marginal risk area over central/southern California was removed
    from the Bay area due to recent drier qpf trends. The Marginal=20
    risk area over the Southwest was confined to southern New Mexico,=20
    where the tail end of the Tennessee/Ohio Valley front may produce=20
    localized instances of flash flooding early on Wednesday.

    The slight and marginal risk areas over the Ohio/Tennessee Valleys
    were expanded to account for antecedent rainfall from today's
    storms. There isn't enough of a qpf signal to overcome the severe
    to extreme drought across the region so an ERO upgrade did not
    occur with this cycle.

    Kebede

    The mid to upper level trof moving east from the Southern Plains
    day 2 will amplify day 3 as it pushes into the Lower MS Valley.
    Anomalous PW and 850-700 moisture flux values will stretch across a
    large area from the Lower MS Valley, and into the TN & OH Valley,
    Central Appalachians and the Mid-Atlantic. Model consensus is for a
    broad region of moderate to heavy precip in this anomalous PW and
    850-700 mb moisture flux axis. There is a typical amount of qpf
    spread for a day 3 time period. WPC is leaning more toward the
    multi model ensemble qpf mean axis/NBM axis to drive our qpf and
    excessive rainfall axis. While a large portion of the day 3 QPF and
    ERO axes are currently in moderate to severe drought, there may be
    overlap in qpf areas from day 3 and day 1 over the TN and OH
    Valley regions and overlap between the day 2 and day 3 qpf axes
    across the Lower MS Valley into the TN Valley, which will likely
    increase soil saturations and increase stream flows. The previous
    slight risk area was trimmed on the western edge by approximately
    75-100 miles across far southeast MO, southern IL and southern IN
    to better fit the latest QPF.


    ...Central California...
    The slow moving closed low approaching the central CA coast late
    day 2 will continue to push slowly eastward day 3 and push inland
    by early Thursday morning. Similar to the day 2 period, an axis of
    anomalous PW values, 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean,
    will persist to the east northeast of the closed low across
    Central CA. Scattered convection in this anomalous PW axis will
    support locally heavy rains across Central CA and isolated runoff
    issues, especially across burn scar regions. Only some small
    changes made to the previous marginal risk area, trimming it
    westward across western NV.

    ...Far southeast Arizona into New Mexico...
    No changes of note made to the previous marginal risk area across
    this region. Scattered convection possible, with localized heavy
    rain and isolated runoff issues, especially in burn scar regions.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-LzW6GfC-4ChtFkqik62XxDvzkfb_sDCz9Sk7c_rqE9L= 7RCiU6E6MtmDVqcw0HHljvnjsKXx6MarSNLb8W6Z27HGVOo$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-LzW6GfC-4ChtFkqik62XxDvzkfb_sDCz9Sk7c_rqE9L= 7RCiU6E6MtmDVqcw0HHljvnjsKXx6MarSNLb8W6ZO0KtN7E$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-LzW6GfC-4ChtFkqik62XxDvzkfb_sDCz9Sk7c_rqE9L= 7RCiU6E6MtmDVqcw0HHljvnjsKXx6MarSNLb8W6ZKoMkinc$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Sep 23 00:45:26 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 230045
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    845 PM EDT Mon Sep 22 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN AND NEAR KANSAS...

    ...Central to Southern Plains...
    Thunderstorms with heavy rainfall are near the Black Hills of SD,=20
    northern IA, and generally near the northern CO/KS border at the=20
    time of this discussion's writing. The most organized convection=20
    capable of heavy rain is forming near and north of a surface low=20
    across northwest KS. The 850-700 mb moisture flux becomes=20
    anomalous, upwards to 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean by=20
    Tuesday morning. The neighborhood probabilities in both the HREF=20
    and RRFS for 3"+ amounts through 12z remain high enough to keep the
    Slight Risk in place. With time convection moving through eastern=20
    CO should merge with the northwest KS convection and form a cold=20
    pool to allow the activity to drop east-southeast as it tries to=20
    ride in an near an instability gradient, with a similar expectation
    for the southwest SD thunderstorm cluster. Wherever cell mergers,=20 mesocyclones, or training elements occur, hourly amounts to 2.5"=20
    are possible which would be most problematic in urban areas.


    ...Mid to Lower Mississippi Valley into the Ohio Valley...
    A broad marginal risk area was maintained in association with an
    upper level trough pushing east northeastward from the Mid=20
    Mississippi Valley through the Ohio Valley. Well defined large=20
    scale lift in an axis of above average PW values, 1 to 1.5+=20
    standard deviations above the mean, will support the likelihood of=20 widespread moderate to heavy precipitation in an axis from northern
    AR, far southeast MO, far southern IL, KY, and the Upper OH Valley.
    Convection across these areas appears progressive. This and very=20
    low relative soil moistures, much of the area in moderate to severe
    drought, keep the risk level at marginal for the time being. The
    guidance is unclear whether or not a heavier rain signal occurs
    near the KY/TN border overnight, which bears watch. Isolated Slight
    Risk impacts cannot be ruled out in that area.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS MISSOURI,
    ARKANSAS, EASTERN OKLAHOMA, WESTERN TENNESSEE, WESTERN KENTUCKY,
    SOUTHERN ILLINOIS, NORTHWESTERN MISSISSIPPI AND SOUTHEAST
    KANSAS...

    ...2030z update...

    The marginal risk area over central/southern California was removed
    from the Bay area based on drier trends in the qpf.

    The risk areas over the Central U.S. were expanded based on high
    12z HREF exceedance probabilities (2+ inches) across the Middle
    Mississippi Valley. Anomalous moisture and instability along a
    strong surface front should promote heavy rainfall. There's
    uncertainty on where exactly the axis of maximum rainfall will
    develop, due to the global and hires models' difficulty resolving
    potential phasing over the Central U.S. on Tuesday.

    Kebede

    The strengthening 850-700 mb moisture flux late day 1 over the
    Southern Plains will remain anomalous day 2 as surface low
    pressure continues to push eastward from the Southern Plains toward
    the Lower Mississippi Valley. 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies
    are forecast to remain in the 2 to 3+ standard deviation above the
    mean level. This will support the likelihood for the continuation
    of the day 1 organized convection over the Southern Plains, pushing
    eastward into the Lower Arkansas Valley and toward the Mid to Lower
    MS Valley. There are differences with the track of the primary
    surface low, resulting in north to south spread with respect to
    where the max precip axis will be. WPC is favoring the more
    southern qpf axes solutions, with the max axis depicted from far
    eastern OK, northern OK/far southern MO into western TN. This is a
    slight southward trend from previous forecasts, reflecting a
    southward trend in qpf guidance. Changes to the previous slight and
    25% areas were to follow the slight southward qpf axis trend,
    pushing them approximately 40-60 miles farther to the south.

    ...Coastal Central California...
    There is good model agreement with the nearly stationary closed
    low off the Southern CA coast day 1 beginning to slowly move back
    to the north on day 2 toward the Central CA coast. This slow north
    movement will also allow for a northward expansion of the
    anomalous PW values over Southern CA into coastal Central CA, with
    values as high as 3-4 standard deviations above the mean. With good
    model agreement on the closed low track day 2, there is also good
    agreement on potential for areal average moderate precip totals,
    with potential for locally heavier amount along the Central CA
    coast. Isolated runoff issues are possible, especially over any
    burn scars.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    ...2030z update...

    The marginal risk area over central/southern California was removed
    from the Bay area due to recent drier qpf trends. The Marginal
    risk area over the Southwest was confined to southern New Mexico,
    where the tail end of the Tennessee/Ohio Valley front may produce
    localized instances of flash flooding early on Wednesday.

    The slight and marginal risk areas over the Ohio/Tennessee Valleys
    were expanded to account for antecedent rainfall from today's
    storms. There isn't enough of a qpf signal to overcome the severe
    to extreme drought across the region so an ERO upgrade did not
    occur with this cycle.

    Kebede

    The mid to upper level trof moving east from the Southern Plains
    day 2 will amplify day 3 as it pushes into the Lower MS Valley.
    Anomalous PW and 850-700 moisture flux values will stretch across a
    large area from the Lower MS Valley, and into the TN & OH Valley,
    Central Appalachians and the Mid-Atlantic. Model consensus is for a
    broad region of moderate to heavy precip in this anomalous PW and
    850-700 mb moisture flux axis. There is a typical amount of qpf
    spread for a day 3 time period. WPC is leaning more toward the
    multi model ensemble qpf mean axis/NBM axis to drive our qpf and
    excessive rainfall axis. While a large portion of the day 3 QPF and
    ERO axes are currently in moderate to severe drought, there may be
    overlap in qpf areas from day 3 and day 1 over the TN and OH
    Valley regions and overlap between the day 2 and day 3 qpf axes
    across the Lower MS Valley into the TN Valley, which will likely
    increase soil saturations and increase stream flows. The previous
    slight risk area was trimmed on the western edge by approximately
    75-100 miles across far southeast MO, southern IL and southern IN
    to better fit the latest QPF.


    ...Central California...
    The slow moving closed low approaching the central CA coast late
    day 2 will continue to push slowly eastward day 3 and push inland
    by early Thursday morning. Similar to the day 2 period, an axis of
    anomalous PW values, 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean,
    will persist to the east northeast of the closed low across
    Central CA. Scattered convection in this anomalous PW axis will
    support locally heavy rains across Central CA and isolated runoff
    issues, especially across burn scar regions. Only some small
    changes made to the previous marginal risk area, trimming it
    westward across western NV.

    ...Far southeast Arizona into New Mexico...
    No changes of note made to the previous marginal risk area across
    this region. Scattered convection possible, with localized heavy
    rain and isolated runoff issues, especially in burn scar regions.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!59bEQ8SMoGRUIJDRrYci71k3kiwLN5p7dPOklpa_wI6d= Qsa8aotAoU2BPAlv4C5Xx2XxZDMmfKgzepgc4Xqj3j9C1rY$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!59bEQ8SMoGRUIJDRrYci71k3kiwLN5p7dPOklpa_wI6d= Qsa8aotAoU2BPAlv4C5Xx2XxZDMmfKgzepgc4XqjrhrCVN8$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!59bEQ8SMoGRUIJDRrYci71k3kiwLN5p7dPOklpa_wI6d= Qsa8aotAoU2BPAlv4C5Xx2XxZDMmfKgzepgc4XqjPLgGsIo$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Sep 23 07:59:18 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 230759
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    359 AM EDT Tue Sep 23 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, FAR SOUTHEAST KANSAS, EASTERN OKLAHOMA, FAR NORTHEAST=20
    TEXAS, ARKANSAS, WESTERN TENNESSEE, WESTERN KENTUCKY, AND SOUTHERN=20
    ILLINOIS AND SOUTHERN INDIANA...

    ...Lower Arkansas Valley, Lower Mississippi Valley into the Lower
    Ohio Valley...

    The strengthening low level southerly flow/anomalous 850-700 mb=20
    moisture flux that have supported organized convection over the=20
    Central to Southern Plains early Tuesday will continue to support=20
    the downstream push of this organized convection post 1200 UTC,=20
    with these anomalous 850-700 mb moisture flux values of 2-3+=20
    standard deviations above the mean moving from the eastern sections
    of the Southern Plains into the Lower AR Valley, Lower MS, TN and=20
    OH Valleys. There continues to be some north south spread in the=20
    models with respect to the position of the max precip axis.=20
    Generally, the non-CAMs are farther north and the CAMs farther=20
    south. WPC continues to support the farther south qpf solutions,=20
    with our day 1 risk areas drawn toward them. Overall, not a lot of=20
    changes to the previous slight risk areas. We did extend the slight
    risk farther east into the Lower OH Valley where there is expected
    to be overlap of day 1 heavy precip with observed precip over the=20
    past 24 hours. We also extended the slight risk area farther south=20
    into northeast TX where several of the new 0000 UTC hi-res runs and subsequently the new HREF mean show heavy precip. Otherwise, the=20
    slight and 25% areas fit well with where the HREF and RRFS=20
    neighborhood probabilities are high day 1 for 2" and 3+ amounts.


    ...Coastal Central California...
    There continues to be good model agreement with the nearly=20
    stationary closed low off the Southern CA coast beginning to=20
    slowly move back to the north on day 1 toward the Central CA=20
    coast. This slow north movement will also allow for a northward=20
    expansion of the anomalous PW values over Southern CA into coastal=20
    Central CA, with values as high as 3-4 standard deviations above=20
    the mean. With good model agreement on the closed low track day 1,
    there is also good agreement on potential for areal average=20
    moderate precip totals, with potential for locally heavier amount=20
    along the Central CA coast. Isolated runoff issues are possible,=20
    especially over any burn scars.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    Anomalous PW and 850-700 moisture flux values will stretch across a
    large area from the Lower MS Valley, and into the TN & OH Valleys,
    Central Appalachians and the Mid-Atlantic, ahead of the amplifying
    longwave trof stretching from the Great Lakes, southward into the
    Lower MS Valley. There still is a fair amount of qpf spread with
    the max axis day 2. WPC is leaning more toward the multi model
    ensemble qpf mean/NBM to drive our qpf and excessive rainfall=20
    axes. This will support a widespread axis of moderate to heavy
    precip amounts from eastern TX into the Lower MS Valley, TN and OH
    Valleys. While a large portion of the day 2 QPF and ERO axes are=20
    currently in moderate to severe drought, there may be overlap in=20
    qpf areas from day 2 and what has fallen over the past 24 hours=20
    from eastern TN into central to eastern KY, and the Upper OH Valley
    region. The previous slight risk was narrowed to better fit this=20
    potential overlap areas. The marginal risk was also trimmed=20
    significantly from southern L.P. of MI, IL, southeast MO and AR to
    better fit the latest qpf update.

    ...Central California...
    The slow moving closed low approaching the central CA coast late
    day 1 will continue to push slowly eastward day 2 and push inland=20
    by early Thursday morning. Similar to the day 1 period, an axis of
    anomalous PW values, 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean,=20
    will persist to the east northeast of the closed low across Central
    CA. Scattered convection in this anomalous PW axis will support=20
    locally heavy rains across Central CA and isolated runoff issues,=20
    especially across burn scar regions.

    ...Far southeast Arizona into New Mexico...
    No changes made to the previous marginal risk area across this=20
    region. Scattered convection possible, with localized heavy rain=20
    and isolated runoff issues, especially in burn scar regions.

    Oravec

    Day 3 Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    The slow moving closed low moving inland into Central CA day 2 will
    drop back to the south southeast toward Southern CA day 3. This
    system will continue to have an area of anomalous PW values in the
    vicinity of the upper center across Central CA into the Great
    Basin. This closed low will also begin to tap anomalous PW values
    over northwestern Mexico, transporting them into southeast Arizona
    day 3. Model consensus is for a max precip area over Southeast
    Arizona and far southwest New Mexico. The previous slight risk
    across this area was only modified slightly, expanding it slightly
    to the north and east to cover the model max qpf spread. Only some
    minor changes to the marginal risk to the northwest of this across
    northern AZ, southern NV, far southwest UT and into the central=20
    Sierra. Locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues possible=20
    across these areas, especially over burn scars.=20

    ...Southern to Central Appalachians...
    There will continue to be a broad axis of above average PW values
    pushing eastward day 3 ahead of the elongated upper trof=20
    stretching from the Great Lakes into the OH and TN Valleys. There=20
    is a lot of qpf differences in this high PW axis, leading to low=20
    confidence in where to put risk areas. Much of the eastern U.S. is=20
    in drought conditions with low relative soil moisture levels. One=20
    exception is over portions of the Southern to Central Appalachians
    from eastern TN/far western NC/far southwest VA and eastern WV.=20
    Kept the day 3 marginal confined to these areas and removed the=20
    broader marginal from the previous issuance that extended north and
    east into the Mid-Atlantic and southwestward to the Gulf Coast.=20


    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7nMcMn1P-s2Hl2lWZQErm_CuK4LRr5gTTWq-gfMgZt5x= 0ZRJMkjOdDFAmh9AZFPATtIf62o3pdoPsKPnJnuTkV5DYqw$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7nMcMn1P-s2Hl2lWZQErm_CuK4LRr5gTTWq-gfMgZt5x= 0ZRJMkjOdDFAmh9AZFPATtIf62o3pdoPsKPnJnuTV3apz4A$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7nMcMn1P-s2Hl2lWZQErm_CuK4LRr5gTTWq-gfMgZt5x= 0ZRJMkjOdDFAmh9AZFPATtIf62o3pdoPsKPnJnuTnEKgbE0$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Sep 23 08:26:06 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 230825
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    425 AM EDT Tue Sep 23 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, FAR SOUTHEAST KANSAS, EASTERN OKLAHOMA, FAR NORTHEAST
    TEXAS, ARKANSAS, WESTERN TENNESSEE, WESTERN KENTUCKY, AND SOUTHERN
    ILLINOIS AND SOUTHERN INDIANA...

    ...Lower Arkansas Valley, Lower Mississippi Valley into the Lower
    Ohio Valley...

    The strengthening low level southerly flow/anomalous 850-700 mb
    moisture flux that have supported organized convection over the
    Central to Southern Plains early Tuesday will continue to support
    the downstream push of this organized convection post 1200 UTC,
    with these anomalous 850-700 mb moisture flux values of 2-3+
    standard deviations above the mean moving from the eastern sections
    of the Southern Plains into the Lower AR Valley, Lower MS, TN and
    OH Valleys. There continues to be some north south spread in the
    models with respect to the position of the max precip axis.
    Generally, the non-CAMs are farther north and the CAMs farther
    south. WPC continues to support the farther south qpf solutions,
    with our day 1 risk areas drawn toward them. Overall, not a lot of
    changes to the previous slight risk areas. We did extend the slight
    risk farther east into the Lower OH Valley where there is expected
    to be overlap of day 1 heavy precip with observed precip over the
    past 24 hours. We also extended the slight risk area farther south
    into northeast TX where several of the new 0000 UTC hi-res runs and subsequently the new HREF mean show heavy precip. Otherwise, the
    slight and 25% areas fit well with where the HREF and RRFS
    neighborhood probabilities are high day 1 for 2" and 3+ amounts.


    ...Coastal Central California...
    There continues to be good model agreement with the nearly
    stationary closed low off the Southern CA coast beginning to
    slowly move back to the north on day 1 toward the Central CA
    coast. This slow north movement will also allow for a northward
    expansion of the anomalous PW values over Southern CA into coastal
    Central CA, with values as high as 3-4 standard deviations above
    the mean. With good model agreement on the closed low track day 1,
    there is also good agreement on potential for areal average
    moderate precip totals, with potential for locally heavier amount
    along the Central CA coast. Isolated runoff issues are possible,
    especially over any burn scars.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    Anomalous PW and 850-700 moisture flux values will stretch across a
    large area from the Lower MS Valley, and into the TN & OH Valleys,
    Central Appalachians and the Mid-Atlantic, ahead of the amplifying
    longwave trof stretching from the Great Lakes, southward into the
    Lower MS Valley. There still is a fair amount of qpf spread with
    the max axis day 2. WPC is leaning more toward the multi model
    ensemble qpf mean/NBM to drive our qpf and excessive rainfall
    axes. This will support a widespread axis of moderate to heavy
    precip amounts from eastern TX into the Lower MS Valley, TN and OH
    Valleys. While a large portion of the day 2 QPF and ERO axes are
    currently in moderate to severe drought, there may be overlap in
    qpf areas from day 2 and what has fallen over the past 24 hours
    from eastern TN into central to eastern KY, and the Upper OH Valley
    region. The previous slight risk was narrowed to better fit this
    potential overlap areas. The marginal risk was also trimmed
    significantly from southern L.P. of MI, IL, southeast MO and AR to
    better fit the latest qpf update.

    ...Central California...
    The slow moving closed low approaching the central CA coast late
    day 1 will continue to push slowly eastward day 2 and push inland
    by early Thursday morning. Similar to the day 1 period, an axis of
    anomalous PW values, 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean,
    will persist to the east northeast of the closed low across Central
    CA. Scattered convection in this anomalous PW axis will support
    locally heavy rains across Central CA and isolated runoff issues,
    especially across burn scar regions.

    ...Far southeast Arizona into New Mexico...
    No changes made to the previous marginal risk area across this
    region. Scattered convection possible, with localized heavy rain
    and isolated runoff issues, especially in burn scar regions.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    The slow moving closed low moving inland into Central CA day 2 will
    drop back to the south southeast toward Southern CA day 3. This
    system will continue to have an area of anomalous PW values in the
    vicinity of the upper center across Central CA into the Great
    Basin. This closed low will also begin to tap anomalous PW values
    over northwestern Mexico, transporting them into southeast Arizona
    day 3. Model consensus is for a max precip area over Southeast
    Arizona and far southwest New Mexico. The previous slight risk
    across this area was only modified slightly, expanding it slightly
    to the north and east to cover the model max qpf spread. Only some
    minor changes to the marginal risk to the northwest of this across
    northern AZ, southern NV, far southwest UT and into the central
    Sierra. Locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues possible
    across these areas, especially over burn scars.

    ...Southern to Central Appalachians...
    There will continue to be a broad axis of above average PW values
    pushing eastward day 3 ahead of the elongated upper trof
    stretching from the Great Lakes into the OH and TN Valleys. There
    is a lot of qpf differences in this high PW axis, leading to low
    confidence in where to put risk areas. Much of the eastern U.S. is
    in drought conditions with low relative soil moisture levels. One
    exception is over portions of the Southern to Central Appalachians
    from eastern TN/far western NC/far southwest VA and eastern WV.
    Kept the day 3 marginal confined to these areas and removed the
    broader marginal from the previous issuance that extended north and
    east into the Mid-Atlantic and southwestward to the Gulf Coast.


    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8Zu8ZnL1PPrE0Wx6wMUWtfPThSPOny5Dxs22C7qC2cZw= VGe2DnNYUBD8tyXBMSa6eaVoiGaStbv9ULX8CM8LV_WWBhE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8Zu8ZnL1PPrE0Wx6wMUWtfPThSPOny5Dxs22C7qC2cZw= VGe2DnNYUBD8tyXBMSa6eaVoiGaStbv9ULX8CM8LDObXeQ4$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8Zu8ZnL1PPrE0Wx6wMUWtfPThSPOny5Dxs22C7qC2cZw= VGe2DnNYUBD8tyXBMSa6eaVoiGaStbv9ULX8CM8LEHiSYnE$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 231554
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1154 AM EDT Tue Sep 23 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, FAR SOUTHEAST KANSAS, EASTERN OKLAHOMA, FAR NORTHEAST
    TEXAS, ARKANSAS, WESTERN TENNESSEE, WESTERN KENTUCKY, AND SOUTHERN
    ILLINOIS AND SOUTHERN INDIANA...

    ...Lower Arkansas Valley, Lower Mississippi Valley into the Lower
    Ohio Valley...

    16Z Update: No significant changes to the risk areas with the main
    area of concern being southern Missouri, northern Arkansas, eastern
    Oklahoma, and far southeast Kansas where a frontal boundary draped
    across interacts with copious amounts of moisture. The 12Z HREF
    probabilities align fairly well with the inherited Slight Risk=20
    area with only minimal adjustments needed.=20

    ---previous discussion---=20

    The strengthening low level southerly flow/anomalous 850-700 mb
    moisture flux that have supported organized convection over the
    Central to Southern Plains early Tuesday will continue to support
    the downstream push of this organized convection post 1200 UTC,
    with these anomalous 850-700 mb moisture flux values of 2-3+
    standard deviations above the mean moving from the eastern sections
    of the Southern Plains into the Lower AR Valley, Lower MS, TN and
    OH Valleys. There continues to be some north south spread in the
    models with respect to the position of the max precip axis.
    Generally, the non-CAMs are farther north and the CAMs farther
    south. WPC continues to support the farther south qpf solutions,
    with our day 1 risk areas drawn toward them. Overall, not a lot of
    changes to the previous slight risk areas. We did extend the slight
    risk farther east into the Lower OH Valley where there is expected
    to be overlap of day 1 heavy precip with observed precip over the
    past 24 hours. We also extended the slight risk area farther south
    into northeast TX where several of the new 0000 UTC hi-res runs and subsequently the new HREF mean show heavy precip. Otherwise, the
    slight and 25% areas fit well with where the HREF and RRFS
    neighborhood probabilities are high day 1 for 2" and 3+ amounts.


    ...Coastal Central California...
    There continues to be good model agreement with the nearly
    stationary closed low off the Southern CA coast beginning to
    slowly move back to the north on day 1 toward the Central CA
    coast. This slow north movement will also allow for a northward
    expansion of the anomalous PW values over Southern CA into coastal
    Central CA, with values as high as 3-4 standard deviations above
    the mean. With good model agreement on the closed low track day 1,
    there is also good agreement on potential for areal average
    moderate precip totals, with potential for locally heavier amount
    along the Central CA coast. Isolated runoff issues are possible,
    especially over any burn scars.

    ...New Mexico...
    The combination of upper level divergence bringing large scale
    forcing for ascent along with an axis of slightly above normal
    moisture will bring the threat of isolated to scattered
    thunderstorms to the area. A Marginal Risk was introduced for the
    threat of isolated flash flooding, particularly over any sensitive
    areas like recent burn scars.=20

    Oravec/Taylor

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    Anomalous PW and 850-700 moisture flux values will stretch across a
    large area from the Lower MS Valley, and into the TN & OH Valleys,
    Central Appalachians and the Mid-Atlantic, ahead of the amplifying
    longwave trof stretching from the Great Lakes, southward into the
    Lower MS Valley. There still is a fair amount of qpf spread with
    the max axis day 2. WPC is leaning more toward the multi model
    ensemble qpf mean/NBM to drive our qpf and excessive rainfall
    axes. This will support a widespread axis of moderate to heavy
    precip amounts from eastern TX into the Lower MS Valley, TN and OH
    Valleys. While a large portion of the day 2 QPF and ERO axes are
    currently in moderate to severe drought, there may be overlap in
    qpf areas from day 2 and what has fallen over the past 24 hours
    from eastern TN into central to eastern KY, and the Upper OH Valley
    region. The previous slight risk was narrowed to better fit this
    potential overlap areas. The marginal risk was also trimmed
    significantly from southern L.P. of MI, IL, southeast MO and AR to
    better fit the latest qpf update.

    ...Central California...
    The slow moving closed low approaching the central CA coast late
    day 1 will continue to push slowly eastward day 2 and push inland
    by early Thursday morning. Similar to the day 1 period, an axis of
    anomalous PW values, 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean,
    will persist to the east northeast of the closed low across Central
    CA. Scattered convection in this anomalous PW axis will support
    locally heavy rains across Central CA and isolated runoff issues,
    especially across burn scar regions.

    ...Far southeast Arizona into New Mexico...
    No changes made to the previous marginal risk area across this
    region. Scattered convection possible, with localized heavy rain
    and isolated runoff issues, especially in burn scar regions.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    The slow moving closed low moving inland into Central CA day 2 will
    drop back to the south southeast toward Southern CA day 3. This
    system will continue to have an area of anomalous PW values in the
    vicinity of the upper center across Central CA into the Great
    Basin. This closed low will also begin to tap anomalous PW values
    over northwestern Mexico, transporting them into southeast Arizona
    day 3. Model consensus is for a max precip area over Southeast
    Arizona and far southwest New Mexico. The previous slight risk
    across this area was only modified slightly, expanding it slightly
    to the north and east to cover the model max qpf spread. Only some
    minor changes to the marginal risk to the northwest of this across
    northern AZ, southern NV, far southwest UT and into the central
    Sierra. Locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues possible
    across these areas, especially over burn scars.

    ...Southern to Central Appalachians...
    There will continue to be a broad axis of above average PW values
    pushing eastward day 3 ahead of the elongated upper trof
    stretching from the Great Lakes into the OH and TN Valleys. There
    is a lot of qpf differences in this high PW axis, leading to low
    confidence in where to put risk areas. Much of the eastern U.S. is
    in drought conditions with low relative soil moisture levels. One
    exception is over portions of the Southern to Central Appalachians
    from eastern TN/far western NC/far southwest VA and eastern WV.
    Kept the day 3 marginal confined to these areas and removed the
    broader marginal from the previous issuance that extended north and
    east into the Mid-Atlantic and southwestward to the Gulf Coast.


    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8HoWOi37BSa4wePhgYbJqOTQ5T6Zw7VBD5qIkNCFtsR3= qrGD81y0M4rM_nssEOiAkMMvayQEvR1yY6CHkD3S3sh9Itw$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8HoWOi37BSa4wePhgYbJqOTQ5T6Zw7VBD5qIkNCFtsR3= qrGD81y0M4rM_nssEOiAkMMvayQEvR1yY6CHkD3S_5foOx0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8HoWOi37BSa4wePhgYbJqOTQ5T6Zw7VBD5qIkNCFtsR3= qrGD81y0M4rM_nssEOiAkMMvayQEvR1yY6CHkD3Sc7YbA7I$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 231953
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    353 PM EDT Tue Sep 23 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, FAR SOUTHEAST KANSAS, EASTERN OKLAHOMA, FAR NORTHEAST
    TEXAS, ARKANSAS, WESTERN TENNESSEE, WESTERN KENTUCKY, AND SOUTHERN
    ILLINOIS AND SOUTHERN INDIANA...

    ...Lower Arkansas Valley, Lower Mississippi Valley into the Lower
    Ohio Valley...

    16Z Update: No significant changes to the risk areas with the main
    area of concern being southern Missouri, northern Arkansas, eastern
    Oklahoma, and far southeast Kansas where a frontal boundary draped
    across interacts with copious amounts of moisture. The 12Z HREF
    probabilities align fairly well with the inherited Slight Risk
    area with only minimal adjustments needed.

    ---previous discussion---

    The strengthening low level southerly flow/anomalous 850-700 mb
    moisture flux that have supported organized convection over the
    Central to Southern Plains early Tuesday will continue to support
    the downstream push of this organized convection post 1200 UTC,
    with these anomalous 850-700 mb moisture flux values of 2-3+
    standard deviations above the mean moving from the eastern sections
    of the Southern Plains into the Lower AR Valley, Lower MS, TN and
    OH Valleys. There continues to be some north south spread in the
    models with respect to the position of the max precip axis.
    Generally, the non-CAMs are farther north and the CAMs farther
    south. WPC continues to support the farther south qpf solutions,
    with our day 1 risk areas drawn toward them. Overall, not a lot of
    changes to the previous slight risk areas. We did extend the slight
    risk farther east into the Lower OH Valley where there is expected
    to be overlap of day 1 heavy precip with observed precip over the
    past 24 hours. We also extended the slight risk area farther south
    into northeast TX where several of the new 0000 UTC hi-res runs and subsequently the new HREF mean show heavy precip. Otherwise, the
    slight and 25% areas fit well with where the HREF and RRFS
    neighborhood probabilities are high day 1 for 2" and 3+ amounts.


    ...Coastal Central California...
    There continues to be good model agreement with the nearly
    stationary closed low off the Southern CA coast beginning to
    slowly move back to the north on day 1 toward the Central CA
    coast. This slow north movement will also allow for a northward
    expansion of the anomalous PW values over Southern CA into coastal
    Central CA, with values as high as 3-4 standard deviations above
    the mean. With good model agreement on the closed low track day 1,
    there is also good agreement on potential for areal average
    moderate precip totals, with potential for locally heavier amount
    along the Central CA coast. Isolated runoff issues are possible,
    especially over any burn scars.

    ...New Mexico...
    The combination of upper level divergence bringing large scale
    forcing for ascent along with an axis of slightly above normal
    moisture will bring the threat of isolated to scattered
    thunderstorms to the area. A Marginal Risk was introduced for the
    threat of isolated flash flooding, particularly over any sensitive
    areas like recent burn scars.

    Oravec/Taylor

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    20Z Update:=20
    No significant adjustments made to this update with the greatest
    threat of intense rain rates and repeated rounds of thunderstorms
    over the TN and OH Valleys into portions of the central
    Appalachians. Other areas with locally higher rainfall and rain
    rates are across portions of northern NJ, eastern PA, and southern
    NY late in the period and then across portions of eastern TX as the
    convective complexes shift southward.=20

    ---previous discussion---

    Anomalous PW and 850-700 moisture flux values will stretch across=20
    a large area from the Lower MS Valley, and into the TN & OH=20
    Valleys, Central Appalachians and the Mid- Atlantic, ahead of the=20
    amplifying longwave trof stretching from the Great Lakes, southward
    into the Lower MS Valley. There still is a fair amount of qpf=20
    spread with the max axis day 2. WPC is leaning more toward the=20
    multi model ensemble qpf mean/NBM to drive our qpf and excessive=20
    rainfall axes. This will support a widespread axis of moderate to=20
    heavy precip amounts from eastern TX into the Lower MS Valley, TN=20
    and OH Valleys. While a large portion of the day 2 QPF and ERO axes
    are currently in moderate to severe drought, there may be overlap=20
    in qpf areas from day 2 and what has fallen over the past 24 hours=20
    from eastern TN into central to eastern KY, and the Upper OH Valley
    region. The previous slight risk was narrowed to better fit this=20
    potential overlap areas. The marginal risk was also trimmed=20
    significantly from southern L.P. of MI, IL, southeast MO and AR to=20
    better fit the latest qpf update.

    ...Central California...
    The slow moving closed low approaching the central CA coast late
    day 1 will continue to push slowly eastward day 2 and push inland
    by early Thursday morning. Similar to the day 1 period, an axis of
    anomalous PW values, 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean,
    will persist to the east northeast of the closed low across Central
    CA. Scattered convection in this anomalous PW axis will support
    locally heavy rains across Central CA and isolated runoff issues,
    especially across burn scar regions.

    ...Far southeast Arizona into New Mexico...
    No changes made to the previous marginal risk area across this
    region. Scattered convection possible, with localized heavy rain
    and isolated runoff issues, especially in burn scar regions.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    The slow moving closed low moving inland into Central CA day 2 will
    drop back to the south southeast toward Southern CA day 3. This
    system will continue to have an area of anomalous PW values in the
    vicinity of the upper center across Central CA into the Great
    Basin. This closed low will also begin to tap anomalous PW values
    over northwestern Mexico, transporting them into southeast Arizona
    day 3. Model consensus is for a max precip area over Southeast
    Arizona and far southwest New Mexico. The previous slight risk
    across this area was only modified slightly, expanding it slightly
    to the north and east to cover the model max qpf spread. Only some
    minor changes to the marginal risk to the northwest of this across
    northern AZ, southern NV, far southwest UT and into the central
    Sierra. Locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues possible
    across these areas, especially over burn scars.

    ...Southern to Central Appalachians...
    There will continue to be a broad axis of above average PW values
    pushing eastward day 3 ahead of the elongated upper trof
    stretching from the Great Lakes into the OH and TN Valleys. There
    is a lot of qpf differences in this high PW axis, leading to low
    confidence in where to put risk areas. Much of the eastern U.S. is
    in drought conditions with low relative soil moisture levels. One
    exception is over portions of the Southern to Central Appalachians
    from eastern TN/far western NC/far southwest VA and eastern WV.
    Kept the day 3 marginal confined to these areas and removed the
    broader marginal from the previous issuance that extended north and
    east into the Mid-Atlantic and southwestward to the Gulf Coast.


    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!45wsvkduC9LWxSdoGKkG5ccYyRNDwsbzD6jV44zf-p3W= rAmQ35ZQu2rsK6Fqo8wGVTKE0sj8OdXIV4zXuPPZVEQIqU4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!45wsvkduC9LWxSdoGKkG5ccYyRNDwsbzD6jV44zf-p3W= rAmQ35ZQu2rsK6Fqo8wGVTKE0sj8OdXIV4zXuPPZhs_YKNQ$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!45wsvkduC9LWxSdoGKkG5ccYyRNDwsbzD6jV44zf-p3W= rAmQ35ZQu2rsK6Fqo8wGVTKE0sj8OdXIV4zXuPPZLvB3kc4$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 240012
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    812 PM EDT Tue Sep 23 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE OHIO AND MID TO LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEYS INTO THE ARKLATEX...

    ...Ohio and Mississippi Valley's into ArkLaTex...

    01z Update: Surface and upper level progression over the Southern
    Plains will continue through the overnight hours with large scale=20
    ascent still primed to impact the Mid to Lower Mississippi Valley=20
    tonight into the ArkLaTex early Wednesday morning. Thunderstorm
    genesis will occur over southeast OK into western AR and move
    east-southeast with the mean flow as a cold front propagates out of
    OK and shoves the pattern downstream. Heavy rainfall within a
    corridor of modest low to mid-level lapse rates and surface based
    instability will aid in convective schema leading to locally heavy
    rates between 1-2"/hr at peak intensity with the strongest cores
    capable of ~3"/hr given the PWATs near 2" in place over the
    aforementioned area. Copious amounts of rain and flash flood
    signals were prevalent earlier in the D1 period, and that threat
    will continue its migration south along and ahead of the cold
    front. This was more than enough to favor a general maintenance of
    the SLGT risk from prior forecast, but did scale back on the
    northern and western flank of the risk due to the heavy rainfall
    prospects likely done with the frontal approach imminent, and/or
    loss of favored ascent.=20

    The threat for scattered heavy rainfall expands eastward into the=20
    Southern Ohio, and Tennessee Valley's as a quasi- stationary front=20
    bisects the area from the Ozarks into the western reaches of the=20
    Ohio Valley. Expectation is for smaller mid- level perturbations to
    ripple eastward along the front enacting focused ascent within the
    boundary confines which could spell for periods of locally heavy=20
    rain with some training potential in-of the front. Signal is not=20
    nearly as prolific as upstream over the Mississippi Valley, mainly=20
    due to the lower instability forecast over the area. That said,=20
    lower FFG's add favor to a threat overnight as any cell >1"/hr will
    have the capability to induce some flash flood prospects. As a=20
    result, have maintained the previous SLGT risk forecast over the=20
    area with some minor expansion to the east given recent hi-res
    trends.=20

    ...Coastal Central California...

    01z Update: Primary threat for flash flooding this evening across
    CA will be situated within any remnant burn scars that exhibit
    those isolated pockets of much lower FFG's that would favor a
    better threat for flash flooding. The setup was forecast to occur
    this evening, so there was no reason to deviate from continuity.
    The previous MRGL was maintained with no changes.=20

    ...Kansas...=20

    01z Update: Shortwave ejection out of the Front Range will slowly
    migrate eastward with a threat of heavy rain from convection
    situated in-of the axis of a weak nocturnal LLJ converging with a
    residual quasi-stationary front over northwest KS. The threat is
    very isolated in nature, but hi-res continues to depict a small
    axis of heavy rain potential from the CO/KS border near Goodland
    down into Dodge City during the evening. The threat remains within
    the lower bounds of the MRGL risk threshold, but still has merit,
    so maintained continuity over the region and removed the risk
    downstream over central and eastern KS as the threat there has
    ended.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    20Z Update:
    No significant adjustments made to this update with the greatest
    threat of intense rain rates and repeated rounds of thunderstorms
    over the TN and OH Valleys into portions of the central
    Appalachians. Other areas with locally higher rainfall and rain
    rates are across portions of northern NJ, eastern PA, and southern
    NY late in the period and then across portions of eastern TX as the
    convective complexes shift southward.

    ---previous discussion---

    Anomalous PW and 850-700 moisture flux values will stretch across
    a large area from the Lower MS Valley, and into the TN & OH
    Valleys, Central Appalachians and the Mid- Atlantic, ahead of the
    amplifying longwave trof stretching from the Great Lakes, southward
    into the Lower MS Valley. There still is a fair amount of qpf
    spread with the max axis day 2. WPC is leaning more toward the
    multi model ensemble qpf mean/NBM to drive our qpf and excessive
    rainfall axes. This will support a widespread axis of moderate to
    heavy precip amounts from eastern TX into the Lower MS Valley, TN
    and OH Valleys. While a large portion of the day 2 QPF and ERO axes
    are currently in moderate to severe drought, there may be overlap
    in qpf areas from day 2 and what has fallen over the past 24 hours
    from eastern TN into central to eastern KY, and the Upper OH Valley
    region. The previous slight risk was narrowed to better fit this
    potential overlap areas. The marginal risk was also trimmed
    significantly from southern L.P. of MI, IL, southeast MO and AR to
    better fit the latest qpf update.

    ...Central California...
    The slow moving closed low approaching the central CA coast late
    day 1 will continue to push slowly eastward day 2 and push inland
    by early Thursday morning. Similar to the day 1 period, an axis of
    anomalous PW values, 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean,
    will persist to the east northeast of the closed low across Central
    CA. Scattered convection in this anomalous PW axis will support
    locally heavy rains across Central CA and isolated runoff issues,
    especially across burn scar regions.

    ...Far southeast Arizona into New Mexico...
    No changes made to the previous marginal risk area across this
    region. Scattered convection possible, with localized heavy rain
    and isolated runoff issues, especially in burn scar regions.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    The slow moving closed low moving inland into Central CA day 2 will
    drop back to the south southeast toward Southern CA day 3. This
    system will continue to have an area of anomalous PW values in the
    vicinity of the upper center across Central CA into the Great
    Basin. This closed low will also begin to tap anomalous PW values
    over northwestern Mexico, transporting them into southeast Arizona
    day 3. Model consensus is for a max precip area over Southeast
    Arizona and far southwest New Mexico. The previous slight risk
    across this area was only modified slightly, expanding it slightly
    to the north and east to cover the model max qpf spread. Only some
    minor changes to the marginal risk to the northwest of this across
    northern AZ, southern NV, far southwest UT and into the central
    Sierra. Locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues possible
    across these areas, especially over burn scars.

    ...Southern to Central Appalachians...
    There will continue to be a broad axis of above average PW values
    pushing eastward day 3 ahead of the elongated upper trof
    stretching from the Great Lakes into the OH and TN Valleys. There
    is a lot of qpf differences in this high PW axis, leading to low
    confidence in where to put risk areas. Much of the eastern U.S. is
    in drought conditions with low relative soil moisture levels. One
    exception is over portions of the Southern to Central Appalachians
    from eastern TN/far western NC/far southwest VA and eastern WV.
    Kept the day 3 marginal confined to these areas and removed the
    broader marginal from the previous issuance that extended north and
    east into the Mid-Atlantic and southwestward to the Gulf Coast.


    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4p_bm-eNh2_g7NQ8dqT5VqOJxwnnOneinigyAjdiEhEF= 8Vp84CGLuHD8UTziNOgK9SJGyrhcRLuNlIMz9JDU5Sc5mvY$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4p_bm-eNh2_g7NQ8dqT5VqOJxwnnOneinigyAjdiEhEF= 8Vp84CGLuHD8UTziNOgK9SJGyrhcRLuNlIMz9JDUFyNPMwI$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4p_bm-eNh2_g7NQ8dqT5VqOJxwnnOneinigyAjdiEhEF= 8Vp84CGLuHD8UTziNOgK9SJGyrhcRLuNlIMz9JDUFxuMuKM$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 240831
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    431 AM EDT Wed Sep 24 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    ...Southern Plains to the Central and Southern Appalachians...

    Overall, no large-scale changes to the previous outlook areas,
    maintaining a broad Marginal Risk that extends from portions of
    central and southern Texas to the southern and central=20
    Appalachians, with an embedded Slight Risk centered over parts of=20
    the Ohio and Tennessee valleys.=20

    Composite radar this morning shows widespread showers and storms=20
    extending from the Ohio Valley back into the southern Plains. The=20
    overnight CAMs indicate that ongoing storms along the far eastern=20 Oklahoma-Texas border into southern Arkansas will remain organized
    into the late morning as the drift slowly south, with training=20
    storms likely to produce heavy amounts across portions of=20
    northeastern Texas and northwestern Louisiana. Supported by=20
    shortwave energy moving through the base of a broader-scale=20 positively-tilted upper trough and PWs at or above 2 inches, HREF=20 probabilities indicate locally heavy amounts exceeding 3 inches are
    likely. However, dry soil conditions, reflected by high FFGs, are=20
    expected to limit the threat for widespread flooding concerns.

    As energy continues to move through the base of the upper trough,
    an area of low pressure is expected to become better organized and
    track northeast through the Ohio Valley beginning later this
    afternoon and continuing into the overnight. Deep southwesterly
    flow ahead of the wave will support increasing moisture, with PW
    anomalies increasing to over 2 std dev above normal per the GFS.
    Given the ongoing rains and relatively wetter soil conditions
    (lower FFGs), a Slight Risk extending from far northern Alabama to
    far southern Ohio and western West Virginia was maintained. HREF=20 probabilities indicate that amounts of 1-2 inches will be common,=20
    with locally heavier amounts over 3 inches possible within the=20
    Slight Risk area.

    In the wake of the low, showers and storms producing heavier rates
    are expected along the trailing front as it sinks south through=20
    the lower Mississippi Valley and along the upper Texas coast back=20
    into South Texas. Here too, the HREF is indicating locally heavy=20
    amounts over 3 inches are likely. But similar to areas to the=20
    north, higher FFGs suggest flooding issues will be mostly contained
    to vulnerable areas, including urbanized centers.

    ...Northeast...

    The general consensus of the CAMs shows an area of showers and
    storms moving northeast well in advance of the system over the Ohio
    Valley. Supported by deepening moisture along a slow-moving
    boundary and increasing mid-to-upper level forcing, showers and
    storms will advance northeast across Pennsylvania, with repeating
    storms potentially resulting in locally heavy amounts from
    northeastern Pennsylvania into the lower Hudson Valley/NYC area. A
    A Marginal Risk was maintained for areas where the HREF shows=20
    higher probabilities for amounts over 2 inches and where FFGs are=20
    relatively lower.

    ...Southeastern Lower Michigan...

    An upper low closing off this morning is expected to remain
    centered over Lower Michigan into Thursday morning. Showers and
    storms are likely to develop east of the center, with relatively
    deeper moisture wrapping into the system raising the potential for
    locally heavy rainfall rates. A small Marginal Risk was=20
    introduced, highlighting the area where the HREF shows high=20
    probabilities for accumulations exceeding 2 inches.

    ...Central California...

    A slow-moving upper low currently offshore will drift north and
    begin moving inland Thursday morning. With anomalous moisture
    remaining in place (2.5-3 std dev above normal), locally heavy
    amounts will remain possible. Reflecting the high HREF
    probabilities for amounts over an inch, a Marginal Risk was
    maintained along the central California Coast from the Monterey=20
    Bay south and along the adjacent mountains.=20

    Pereira


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest to Sierra Nevada...

    After moving inland early Thursday, the closed low over central
    California is forecast to drop south into southern California by
    early Friday. With ample moisture remaining in place (2-3 std
    dev above normal) near and east of the upper center, locally heavy
    amounts are possible from the Sierra Nevada east into southern=20
    Nevada and southwestern Utah.

    As the center drops south, increasing southerly flow east of the
    low will draw deeper moisture up from Mexico, fueling widespread
    shower and thunderstorm coverage, especially across southeastern
    and central Arizona into southwestern New Mexico. A Slight Risk=20
    was maintained across this area where PWs are forecast to increase=20
    to 1-2 standard deviations above normal by the afternoon.

    ...Northeast...

    Unsettled weather developing Day 1 is forecast to continue into=20
    Thursday as showers and storms continue to develop ahead of the=20
    system lifting out of the Ohio Valley into the Northeast.=20
    Strengthening southwesterly flow along the Mid Atlantic coast into=20
    the Northeast will support deepening moisture (PWs increasing to ~2
    inches) and an increasing threat for heavy rainfall rates. A=20
    Marginal Risk was maintained from northern New Jersey into southern
    New England, where HREF probabilities indicate that localized=20
    amounts over 3 inches are possible late Thursday morning into the=20
    afternoon.

    ...Southern Appalachians...

    The consensus of the latest guidance indicates that showers and
    storms developing along and ahead of the cold front trailing the=20
    low moving through the Northeast will be generally progressive.=20
    With widespread heavy amounts not expected and FFGs high, the=20
    previous Marginal Risk was removed from much of the Mid Atlantic.=20
    However, some models do show the potential for training storms to=20
    produce some localized heavy amounts (2+ inches) across parts of=20
    the southern Appalachians, where a small Marginal Risk was=20
    maintained.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...

    A second day of numerous showers and storms is expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. The upper low setting into southern
    California the previous period is expected to move little this day,
    remaining centered near the California/Mexico border. This will
    help to maintain anomalous moisture across the region, fueling
    widespread shower and thunderstorm coverage during the afternoon=20
    and evening hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the=20
    Day 2 area, was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and=20
    New Mexico.

    ...Southeast...

    A boundary will remain in place across the Southeast as an upper
    trough evolves into a closed low that is forecast to linger beyond
    the period. Moisture and energy lifting ahead of the closing system
    will support periods of shower and storms. While the guidance at
    this point is not signaling any widespread heavy amounts, the
    pattern does lend itself to at least the threat for locally heavy
    amounts, which may raise at least isolated flooding concerns.

    Pereira

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5vA739x67VpnfVraAik3IwQLSuWXLa9vminnKBPVMd88= _4ip2yq-4cSfT_dtRHVGrOOe9KqZkZf6iCg6bJT_HUWuYcM$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5vA739x67VpnfVraAik3IwQLSuWXLa9vminnKBPVMd88= _4ip2yq-4cSfT_dtRHVGrOOe9KqZkZf6iCg6bJT_2G4rUvQ$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5vA739x67VpnfVraAik3IwQLSuWXLa9vminnKBPVMd88= _4ip2yq-4cSfT_dtRHVGrOOe9KqZkZf6iCg6bJT_5YHAnno$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Sep 24 15:58:06 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 241557
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1157 AM EDT Wed Sep 24 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    ...Southern Plains to the Central and Southern Appalachians...

    Overall, no large-scale changes to the previous outlook areas,
    maintaining a broad Marginal Risk that extends from portions of
    central and southern Texas to the southern and central
    Appalachians, with an embedded Slight Risk centered over parts of
    the Ohio and Tennessee valleys.

    Composite radar this morning shows widespread showers and storms
    extending from the Ohio Valley back into the southern Plains. The
    overnight CAMs indicate that ongoing storms along the far eastern Oklahoma-Texas border into southern Arkansas will remain organized
    into the late morning as the drift slowly south, with training
    storms likely to produce heavy amounts across portions of
    northeastern Texas and northwestern Louisiana. Supported by
    shortwave energy moving through the base of a broader-scale
    positively-tilted upper trough and PWs at or above 2 inches, HREF
    probabilities indicate locally heavy amounts exceeding 3 inches are
    likely. However, dry soil conditions, reflected by high FFGs, are
    expected to limit the threat for widespread flooding concerns.

    As energy continues to move through the base of the upper trough,
    an area of low pressure is expected to become better organized and
    track northeast through the Ohio Valley beginning later this
    afternoon and continuing into the overnight. Deep southwesterly
    flow ahead of the wave will support increasing moisture, with PW
    anomalies increasing to over 2 std dev above normal per the GFS.
    Given the ongoing rains and relatively wetter soil conditions
    (lower FFGs), a Slight Risk extending from far northern Alabama to
    far southern Ohio and western West Virginia was maintained. HREF
    probabilities indicate that amounts of 1-2 inches will be common,
    with locally heavier amounts over 3 inches possible within the
    Slight Risk area.

    In the wake of the low, showers and storms producing heavier rates
    are expected along the trailing front as it sinks south through
    the lower Mississippi Valley and along the upper Texas coast back
    into South Texas. Here too, the HREF is indicating locally heavy
    amounts over 3 inches are likely. But similar to areas to the
    north, higher FFGs suggest flooding issues will be mostly contained
    to vulnerable areas, including urbanized centers.

    ...Northeast...

    The general consensus of the CAMs shows an area of showers and
    storms moving northeast well in advance of the system over the Ohio
    Valley. Supported by deepening moisture along a slow-moving
    boundary and increasing mid-to-upper level forcing, showers and
    storms will advance northeast across Pennsylvania, with repeating
    storms potentially resulting in locally heavy amounts from
    northeastern Pennsylvania into the lower Hudson Valley/NYC area. A
    A Marginal Risk was maintained for areas where the HREF shows
    higher probabilities for amounts over 2 inches and where FFGs are
    relatively lower.

    ...Southeastern Lower Michigan...

    An upper low closing off this morning is expected to remain
    centered over Lower Michigan into Thursday morning. Showers and
    storms are likely to develop east of the center, with relatively
    deeper moisture wrapping into the system raising the potential for
    locally heavy rainfall rates. A small Marginal Risk was
    introduced, highlighting the area where the HREF shows high
    probabilities for accumulations exceeding 2 inches.

    ...Central California...

    A slow-moving upper low currently offshore will drift north and
    begin moving inland Thursday morning. With anomalous moisture
    remaining in place (2.5-3 std dev above normal), locally heavy
    amounts will remain possible. Reflecting the high HREF
    probabilities for amounts over an inch, a Marginal Risk was
    maintained along the central California Coast from the Monterey
    Bay south and along the adjacent mountains.

    Pereira


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest to Sierra Nevada...

    After moving inland early Thursday, the closed low over central
    California is forecast to drop south into southern California by
    early Friday. With ample moisture remaining in place (2-3 std
    dev above normal) near and east of the upper center, locally heavy
    amounts are possible from the Sierra Nevada east into southern
    Nevada and southwestern Utah.

    As the center drops south, increasing southerly flow east of the
    low will draw deeper moisture up from Mexico, fueling widespread
    shower and thunderstorm coverage, especially across southeastern
    and central Arizona into southwestern New Mexico. A Slight Risk
    was maintained across this area where PWs are forecast to increase
    to 1-2 standard deviations above normal by the afternoon.

    ...Northeast...

    Unsettled weather developing Day 1 is forecast to continue into
    Thursday as showers and storms continue to develop ahead of the
    system lifting out of the Ohio Valley into the Northeast.
    Strengthening southwesterly flow along the Mid Atlantic coast into
    the Northeast will support deepening moisture (PWs increasing to ~2
    inches) and an increasing threat for heavy rainfall rates. A
    Marginal Risk was maintained from northern New Jersey into southern
    New England, where HREF probabilities indicate that localized
    amounts over 3 inches are possible late Thursday morning into the
    afternoon.

    ...Southern Appalachians...

    The consensus of the latest guidance indicates that showers and
    storms developing along and ahead of the cold front trailing the
    low moving through the Northeast will be generally progressive.
    With widespread heavy amounts not expected and FFGs high, the
    previous Marginal Risk was removed from much of the Mid Atlantic.
    However, some models do show the potential for training storms to
    produce some localized heavy amounts (2+ inches) across parts of
    the southern Appalachians, where a small Marginal Risk was
    maintained.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...

    A second day of numerous showers and storms is expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. The upper low setting into southern
    California the previous period is expected to move little this day,
    remaining centered near the California/Mexico border. This will
    help to maintain anomalous moisture across the region, fueling
    widespread shower and thunderstorm coverage during the afternoon
    and evening hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the
    Day 2 area, was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and
    New Mexico.

    ...Southeast...

    A boundary will remain in place across the Southeast as an upper
    trough evolves into a closed low that is forecast to linger beyond
    the period. Moisture and energy lifting ahead of the closing system
    will support periods of shower and storms. While the guidance at
    this point is not signaling any widespread heavy amounts, the
    pattern does lend itself to at least the threat for locally heavy
    amounts, which may raise at least isolated flooding concerns.

    Pereira

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!85yS_gHHnzXqyxgQt_fhXScJ1XWXrinD7B4VtLMbPcW7= L0HP2NNaLBjOQa_ks8Eqm1iNmQJvLmF3pikwl2cyj6Kwtl4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!85yS_gHHnzXqyxgQt_fhXScJ1XWXrinD7B4VtLMbPcW7= L0HP2NNaLBjOQa_ks8Eqm1iNmQJvLmF3pikwl2cy6tLcAT0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!85yS_gHHnzXqyxgQt_fhXScJ1XWXrinD7B4VtLMbPcW7= L0HP2NNaLBjOQa_ks8Eqm1iNmQJvLmF3pikwl2cyM4jMSdY$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 241626
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1226 PM EDT Wed Sep 24 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS, ALONG WITH PARTS OF THE WESTERN
    GULF COAST INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    ...Southern Plains to the Central and Southern Appalachians...

    ...1600 UTC Update...
    Based on the rainfall that has already fallen, along with the 12Z
    CAM guidance (including HREF probabilistic suite), have expanded
    the Slight Risk area to include western TN and more of the TN=20
    Valley (northeast MS, northern AL, and northwest GA). This=20
    expansion picks up on the enhanced HREF probabilities of 2+ inch/hr
    rainfall rates, along with the higher probs of exceeding 5.00"=20
    (isolated areas near 30 percent) through the remainder of the day 1
    period (through 12Z Thu).

    Meanwhile, have also expanded the Slight Risk area across parts of
    the Lower MS Valley to eastern TX and along much of the TX coast.
    This was a fairly sizable shift from the previous forecast, and=20
    was based largely from the latest (12Z) CAM guidance as well as=20 observational trends. While the coverage may be more isolated than=20 scattered, the thermodynamic parameters (high TPWs around 2" and=20
    mixed-layer CAPEs of 2000-2500 J/Kg) are optimal in maximizing the=20 precipitation efficiency. The latest CAMs, especially HREF=20
    probabilities, continue to show the potential for a "high-end"=20
    heavy rainfall event, again even if more isolated than scattered.=20
    Certainly enough to justify the more enhanced ERO risk (Slight vs.=20 Marginal). Within this expanded Slight Risk area, the 12Z HREF=20
    indicated probabilities have climbed to 40-50% in areas from=20
    northeast TX into southern AR-northern LA. In addition, 5+ inch=20 probabilities are now 50-60%+ across a small portion of south-=20
    central TX.=20

    ...Previous discussion...

    Composite radar this morning shows widespread showers and storms
    extending from the Ohio Valley back into the southern Plains. The
    overnight CAMs indicate that ongoing storms along the far eastern Oklahoma-Texas border into southern Arkansas will remain organized
    into the late morning as the drift slowly south, with training
    storms likely to produce heavy amounts across portions of
    northeastern Texas and northwestern Louisiana. Supported by
    shortwave energy moving through the base of a broader-scale
    positively-tilted upper trough and PWs at or above 2 inches, HREF
    probabilities indicate locally heavy amounts exceeding 3 inches are
    likely. However, dry soil conditions, reflected by high FFGs, are
    expected to limit the threat for widespread flooding concerns.

    As energy continues to move through the base of the upper trough,
    an area of low pressure is expected to become better organized and
    track northeast through the Ohio Valley beginning later this
    afternoon and continuing into the overnight. Deep southwesterly
    flow ahead of the wave will support increasing moisture, with PW
    anomalies increasing to over 2 std dev above normal per the GFS.
    Given the ongoing rains and relatively wetter soil conditions
    (lower FFGs), a Slight Risk extending from far northern Alabama to
    far southern Ohio and western West Virginia was maintained. HREF
    probabilities indicate that amounts of 1-2 inches will be common,
    with locally heavier amounts over 3 inches possible within the
    Slight Risk area.

    In the wake of the low, showers and storms producing heavier rates
    are expected along the trailing front as it sinks south through
    the lower Mississippi Valley and along the upper Texas coast back
    into South Texas. Here too, the HREF is indicating locally heavy
    amounts over 3 inches are likely. But similar to areas to the
    north, higher FFGs suggest flooding issues will be mostly contained
    to vulnerable areas, including urbanized centers.

    ...Northeast...

    The general consensus of the CAMs shows an area of showers and
    storms moving northeast well in advance of the system over the Ohio
    Valley. Supported by deepening moisture along a slow-moving
    boundary and increasing mid-to-upper level forcing, showers and
    storms will advance northeast across Pennsylvania, with repeating
    storms potentially resulting in locally heavy amounts from
    northeastern Pennsylvania into the Hudson Valley, parts of far
    western New England, and the NYC area. A A Marginal Risk was=20
    maintained for areas where the HREF shows higher probabilities for=20
    amounts over 2 inches and where FFGs are relatively lower.

    ...Central California...

    A slow-moving upper low currently offshore will drift north and
    begin moving inland Thursday morning. With anomalous moisture
    remaining in place (2.5-3 std dev above normal), locally heavy
    amounts will remain possible. Reflecting the high HREF
    probabilities for amounts over an inch, a Marginal Risk was
    maintained along the central California Coast from the Monterey
    Bay south and along the adjacent mountains.

    Hurley/Pereira


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest to Sierra Nevada...

    After moving inland early Thursday, the closed low over central
    California is forecast to drop south into southern California by
    early Friday. With ample moisture remaining in place (2-3 std
    dev above normal) near and east of the upper center, locally heavy
    amounts are possible from the Sierra Nevada east into southern
    Nevada and southwestern Utah.

    As the center drops south, increasing southerly flow east of the
    low will draw deeper moisture up from Mexico, fueling widespread
    shower and thunderstorm coverage, especially across southeastern
    and central Arizona into southwestern New Mexico. A Slight Risk
    was maintained across this area where PWs are forecast to increase
    to 1-2 standard deviations above normal by the afternoon.

    ...Northeast...

    Unsettled weather developing Day 1 is forecast to continue into
    Thursday as showers and storms continue to develop ahead of the
    system lifting out of the Ohio Valley into the Northeast.
    Strengthening southwesterly flow along the Mid Atlantic coast into
    the Northeast will support deepening moisture (PWs increasing to ~2
    inches) and an increasing threat for heavy rainfall rates. A
    Marginal Risk was maintained from northern New Jersey into southern
    New England, where HREF probabilities indicate that localized
    amounts over 3 inches are possible late Thursday morning into the
    afternoon.

    ...Southern Appalachians...

    The consensus of the latest guidance indicates that showers and
    storms developing along and ahead of the cold front trailing the
    low moving through the Northeast will be generally progressive.
    With widespread heavy amounts not expected and FFGs high, the
    previous Marginal Risk was removed from much of the Mid Atlantic.
    However, some models do show the potential for training storms to
    produce some localized heavy amounts (2+ inches) across parts of
    the southern Appalachians, where a small Marginal Risk was
    maintained.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...

    A second day of numerous showers and storms is expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. The upper low setting into southern
    California the previous period is expected to move little this day,
    remaining centered near the California/Mexico border. This will
    help to maintain anomalous moisture across the region, fueling
    widespread shower and thunderstorm coverage during the afternoon
    and evening hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the
    Day 2 area, was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and
    New Mexico.

    ...Southeast...

    A boundary will remain in place across the Southeast as an upper
    trough evolves into a closed low that is forecast to linger beyond
    the period. Moisture and energy lifting ahead of the closing system
    will support periods of shower and storms. While the guidance at
    this point is not signaling any widespread heavy amounts, the
    pattern does lend itself to at least the threat for locally heavy
    amounts, which may raise at least isolated flooding concerns.

    Pereira

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6IOgtnsNUs9Vul3LxDZK_cWnJhfkyR2n3cL3tfG8rVqf= do8bGqz74mG8lVEoGDXNcV-j6tkRha585SaABISHZInaJms$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6IOgtnsNUs9Vul3LxDZK_cWnJhfkyR2n3cL3tfG8rVqf= do8bGqz74mG8lVEoGDXNcV-j6tkRha585SaABISHl6XUVCA$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6IOgtnsNUs9Vul3LxDZK_cWnJhfkyR2n3cL3tfG8rVqf= do8bGqz74mG8lVEoGDXNcV-j6tkRha585SaABISHYu7MWmc$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Sep 24 19:03:02 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 241902
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    302 PM EDT Wed Sep 24 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS, ALONG WITH PARTS OF THE WESTERN
    GULF COAST INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    ...Southern Plains to the Central and Southern Appalachians...

    ...1600 UTC Update...

    Based on the rainfall that has already fallen, along with the 12Z
    CAM guidance (including HREF probabilistic suite), have expanded
    the Slight Risk area to include western TN and more of the TN
    Valley (northeast MS, northern AL, and northwest GA). This
    expansion picks up on the enhanced HREF probabilities of 2+ inch/hr
    rainfall rates, along with the higher probs of exceeding 5.00"
    (isolated areas near 30 percent) through the remainder of the day 1
    period (through 12Z Thu).

    Meanwhile, have also expanded the Slight Risk area across parts of
    the Lower MS Valley to eastern TX and along much of the TX coast.
    This was a fairly sizable shift from the previous forecast, and
    was based largely from the latest (12Z) CAM guidance as well as
    observational trends. While the coverage may be more isolated than
    scattered, the thermodynamic parameters (high TPWs around 2" and
    mixed-layer CAPEs of 2000-2500 J/Kg) are optimal in maximizing the precipitation efficiency. The latest CAMs, especially HREF
    probabilities, continue to show the potential for a "high-end"
    heavy rainfall event, again even if more isolated than scattered.
    Certainly enough to justify the more enhanced ERO risk (Slight vs.
    Marginal). Within this expanded Slight Risk area, the 12Z HREF
    indicated probabilities have climbed to 40-50% in areas from
    northeast TX into southern AR-northern LA. In addition, 5+ inch
    probabilities are now 50-60%+ across a small portion of south-
    central TX.

    ...Previous discussion...

    Composite radar this morning shows widespread showers and storms
    extending from the Ohio Valley back into the southern Plains. The
    overnight CAMs indicate that ongoing storms along the far eastern Oklahoma-Texas border into southern Arkansas will remain organized
    into the late morning as the drift slowly south, with training
    storms likely to produce heavy amounts across portions of
    northeastern Texas and northwestern Louisiana. Supported by
    shortwave energy moving through the base of a broader-scale
    positively-tilted upper trough and PWs at or above 2 inches, HREF
    probabilities indicate locally heavy amounts exceeding 3 inches are
    likely. However, dry soil conditions, reflected by high FFGs, are
    expected to limit the threat for widespread flooding concerns.

    As energy continues to move through the base of the upper trough,
    an area of low pressure is expected to become better organized and
    track northeast through the Ohio Valley beginning later this
    afternoon and continuing into the overnight. Deep southwesterly
    flow ahead of the wave will support increasing moisture, with PW
    anomalies increasing to over 2 std dev above normal per the GFS.
    Given the ongoing rains and relatively wetter soil conditions
    (lower FFGs), a Slight Risk extending from far northern Alabama to
    far southern Ohio and western West Virginia was maintained. HREF
    probabilities indicate that amounts of 1-2 inches will be common,
    with locally heavier amounts over 3 inches possible within the
    Slight Risk area.

    In the wake of the low, showers and storms producing heavier rates
    are expected along the trailing front as it sinks south through
    the lower Mississippi Valley and along the upper Texas coast back
    into South Texas. Here too, the HREF is indicating locally heavy
    amounts over 3 inches are likely. But similar to areas to the
    north, higher FFGs suggest flooding issues will be mostly contained
    to vulnerable areas, including urbanized centers.

    ...Northeast...

    The general consensus of the CAMs shows an area of showers and
    storms moving northeast well in advance of the system over the Ohio
    Valley. Supported by deepening moisture along a slow-moving
    boundary and increasing mid-to-upper level forcing, showers and
    storms will advance northeast across Pennsylvania, with repeating
    storms potentially resulting in locally heavy amounts from
    northeastern Pennsylvania into the Hudson Valley, parts of far
    western New England, and the NYC area. A A Marginal Risk was
    maintained for areas where the HREF shows higher probabilities for
    amounts over 2 inches and where FFGs are relatively lower.

    ...Central California...

    A slow-moving upper low currently offshore will drift north and
    begin moving inland Thursday morning. With anomalous moisture
    remaining in place (2.5-3 std dev above normal), locally heavy
    amounts will remain possible. Reflecting the high HREF
    probabilities for amounts over an inch, a Marginal Risk was
    maintained along the central California Coast from the Monterey
    Bay south and along the adjacent mountains.

    Hurley/Pereira


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest to Sierra Nevada...

    After moving inland early Thursday, the closed low over central
    California is forecast to drop south into southern California by
    early Friday. With ample moisture remaining in place (2-3 std
    dev above normal) near and east of the upper center, locally heavy
    amounts are possible from the Sierra Nevada east into southern
    Nevada and southwestern Utah.

    As the center drops south, increasing southerly flow east of the
    low will draw deeper moisture up from Mexico, fueling widespread
    shower and thunderstorm coverage, especially across southeastern
    and central Arizona into southwestern New Mexico. A Slight Risk
    was maintained across this area where PWs are forecast to increase
    to 1-2 standard deviations above normal by the afternoon.

    ...Northeast...

    Unsettled weather developing Day 1 is forecast to continue into
    Thursday as showers and storms continue to develop ahead of the
    system lifting out of the Ohio Valley into the Northeast.
    Strengthening southwesterly flow along the Mid Atlantic coast into
    the Northeast will support deepening moisture (PWs increasing to ~2
    inches) and an increasing threat for heavy rainfall rates. A
    Marginal Risk was maintained from northern New Jersey into southern
    New England, where HREF probabilities indicate that localized
    amounts over 3 inches are possible late Thursday morning into the
    afternoon.

    ...Southern Appalachians into parts of the Southeast and Eastern=20
    Gulf Coast...

    ...2000 UTC Update...

    Amplifying mid-upper trough digging into the northwest and north-=20
    central Gulf Thu-Thu night will slow the eastward progression of=20
    the surface cold front and thus favorable pre-frontal buoyant=20
    airmass (ribbon of higher TPW and deep-layer instability). More=20
    protracted period of favorable low-level moisture transport ahead=20
    of the upper trough/surface front. 12Z HREF probabilities depict
    this idea well, with several hours of spotty areas with enhanced=20
    probs for 1-2+ in/hr rainfall rates. Therefore, supported by the
    latest CSU UFVS-verified ERO First-Guess field, have expanded the
    Marginal Risk south to the MS-AL-western FL Panhandle Gulf Coast.=20


    ...Previous Discussion...

    The consensus of the latest guidance indicates that showers and
    storms developing along and ahead of the cold front trailing the
    low moving through the Northeast will be generally progressive.
    With widespread heavy amounts not expected and FFGs high, the
    previous Marginal Risk was removed from much of the Mid Atlantic.
    However, some models do show the potential for training storms to
    produce some localized heavy amounts (2+ inches) across parts of
    the southern Appalachians, where a small Marginal Risk was
    maintained.

    Hurley/Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...

    A second day of numerous showers and storms is expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. The upper low setting into southern
    California the previous period is expected to move little this day,
    remaining centered near the California/Mexico border. This will
    help to maintain anomalous moisture across the region, fueling
    widespread shower and thunderstorm coverage during the afternoon
    and evening hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the
    Day 2 area, was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and
    New Mexico.

    ...Southeast...

    A boundary will remain in place across the Southeast as an upper
    trough evolves into a closed low that is forecast to linger beyond
    the period. Moisture and energy lifting ahead of the closing system
    will support periods of shower and storms. While the guidance at
    this point is not signaling any widespread heavy amounts, the
    pattern does lend itself to at least the threat for locally heavy
    amounts, which may raise at least isolated flooding concerns.

    Pereira

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7h4VVW7j7L5JsErW2RNQmscZ04LZff35tUvNiuqwwR1X= Ab5Lcbz3WllKKKh2XWXbxH3PmOkY19s6T_hRas36BwJgqKg$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7h4VVW7j7L5JsErW2RNQmscZ04LZff35tUvNiuqwwR1X= Ab5Lcbz3WllKKKh2XWXbxH3PmOkY19s6T_hRas36N8rbaAc$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7h4VVW7j7L5JsErW2RNQmscZ04LZff35tUvNiuqwwR1X= Ab5Lcbz3WllKKKh2XWXbxH3PmOkY19s6T_hRas36NAnUHvc$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Sep 25 00:46:41 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 250046
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    846 PM EDT Wed Sep 24 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE OHIO=20
    VALLEY AND PORTIONS OF SOUTH TEXAS...

    ...01Z Update...

    ...Ohio and Tennessee Valleys...

    Rain associated with a pair of disturbances is developing across
    the lower Ohio Valley this evening. The locally heavy rain
    associated with embedded convection will spread northeast up the
    Ohio Valley, where rain from recent days has moistened the soils
    somewhat. Thus, the Slight Risk was adjusted north, but remains in
    place for the potential for widely scattered instances of flash
    flooding. Further south into the Tennessee Valley the rain is
    generally more progressive, less widespread, and there are large
    areas with no rain occurring. Those areas have been dropped down to
    a Marginal with this update.

    ...South Texas...

    Developing convection along a cold frontal interface is expected to
    become more widespread overnight, though model agreement on how
    that convection behaves once formed is poor. The frontal interface
    will likely be where the most persistent convection forms and
    remains before likely pushing south into the heat and instability
    in place across Deep South Texas. Thus, the rather narrow corridor
    from Corpus Christi on the coast to Laredo on the Rio Grande is=20
    likely where the highest chances for flash flooding will be through
    tonight.

    Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest to Sierra Nevada...

    After moving inland early Thursday, the closed low over central
    California is forecast to drop south into southern California by
    early Friday. With ample moisture remaining in place (2-3 std
    dev above normal) near and east of the upper center, locally heavy
    amounts are possible from the Sierra Nevada east into southern
    Nevada and southwestern Utah.

    As the center drops south, increasing southerly flow east of the
    low will draw deeper moisture up from Mexico, fueling widespread
    shower and thunderstorm coverage, especially across southeastern
    and central Arizona into southwestern New Mexico. A Slight Risk
    was maintained across this area where PWs are forecast to increase
    to 1-2 standard deviations above normal by the afternoon.

    ...Northeast...

    Unsettled weather developing Day 1 is forecast to continue into
    Thursday as showers and storms continue to develop ahead of the
    system lifting out of the Ohio Valley into the Northeast.
    Strengthening southwesterly flow along the Mid Atlantic coast into
    the Northeast will support deepening moisture (PWs increasing to ~2
    inches) and an increasing threat for heavy rainfall rates. A
    Marginal Risk was maintained from northern New Jersey into southern
    New England, where HREF probabilities indicate that localized
    amounts over 3 inches are possible late Thursday morning into the
    afternoon.

    ...Southern Appalachians into parts of the Southeast and Eastern
    Gulf Coast...

    ...2000 UTC Update...

    Amplifying mid-upper trough digging into the northwest and north-
    central Gulf Thu-Thu night will slow the eastward progression of
    the surface cold front and thus favorable pre-frontal buoyant
    airmass (ribbon of higher TPW and deep-layer instability). More
    protracted period of favorable low-level moisture transport ahead
    of the upper trough/surface front. 12Z HREF probabilities depict
    this idea well, with several hours of spotty areas with enhanced
    probs for 1-2+ in/hr rainfall rates. Therefore, supported by the
    latest CSU UFVS-verified ERO First-Guess field, have expanded the
    Marginal Risk south to the MS-AL-western FL Panhandle Gulf Coast.


    ...Previous Discussion...

    The consensus of the latest guidance indicates that showers and
    storms developing along and ahead of the cold front trailing the
    low moving through the Northeast will be generally progressive.
    With widespread heavy amounts not expected and FFGs high, the
    previous Marginal Risk was removed from much of the Mid Atlantic.
    However, some models do show the potential for training storms to
    produce some localized heavy amounts (2+ inches) across parts of
    the southern Appalachians, where a small Marginal Risk was
    maintained.

    Hurley/Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...

    A second day of numerous showers and storms is expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. The upper low setting into southern
    California the previous period is expected to move little this day,
    remaining centered near the California/Mexico border. This will
    help to maintain anomalous moisture across the region, fueling
    widespread shower and thunderstorm coverage during the afternoon
    and evening hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the
    Day 2 area, was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and
    New Mexico.

    ...Southeast...

    A boundary will remain in place across the Southeast as an upper
    trough evolves into a closed low that is forecast to linger beyond
    the period. Moisture and energy lifting ahead of the closing system
    will support periods of shower and storms. While the guidance at
    this point is not signaling any widespread heavy amounts, the
    pattern does lend itself to at least the threat for locally heavy
    amounts, which may raise at least isolated flooding concerns.

    Pereira

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4QDYoBFeNMOd1Ld9bCQPgYzlRQX5emLDwLwCBoyFY48R= Clcn8tnCyqBzBMMpEAOMrOQUBya-8ZfpL6lqWvLjXgO07DA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4QDYoBFeNMOd1Ld9bCQPgYzlRQX5emLDwLwCBoyFY48R= Clcn8tnCyqBzBMMpEAOMrOQUBya-8ZfpL6lqWvLjv9146VM$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4QDYoBFeNMOd1Ld9bCQPgYzlRQX5emLDwLwCBoyFY48R= Clcn8tnCyqBzBMMpEAOMrOQUBya-8ZfpL6lqWvLjPA8nWGM$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 250744
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    344 AM EDT Thu Sep 25 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest to Sierra Nevada...
    A cold low near the central California coast is forecast to drop=20
    southeast into southern California by early Friday. With cold air=20
    aloft overlying sufficient moisture near and east of the upper=20
    center, locally heavy amounts are possible from the Sierra Nevada=20
    east into southern Nevada and southwestern Utah.

    Ahead of the system, increasing southerly flow will draw deeper=20
    moisture into the Southwest from the Gulf of CA, fueling=20
    widespread shower and thunderstorm coverage, especially across=20
    southeastern and central Arizona into southwestern New Mexico. ML=20
    CAPE should rise into the 1000-2000 J/kg range. A Slight Risk was=20
    maintained across this area where cold air aloft interacts with=20
    monsoon-like moisture, with precipitable water values as high as=20
    1.25-1.5". Hourly rain amounts to 2" are possible where cells merge
    and/or train.


    ...Northeast/Upper Ohio Valley...
    Unsettled weather at the present time is forecast to continue into
    Thursday as showers and storms stream east across the Upper Ohio
    Valley, WV, and southwest PA ahead of a shortwave aloft and surface
    frontal wave. While there may be a gap in heavy rainfall between=20
    this region and points farther east, chose to connect the areas=20
    and significantly broaden the inherited Marginal Risk.=20
    Strengthening southwesterly flow along the Mid Atlantic coast into=20
    the Northeast will support deepening moisture (PWs increasing to=20
    ~2") and ML CAPE surpasses 1000 J/kg. Hourly amounts to 2.5" are=20
    possible in this region with local totals to 4", but coverage of
    such amounts should be sparse enough for a Marginal Risk to still
    apply.


    ...Southern Appalachians into parts of the Gulf Coast...
    Amplifying mid-upper trough digging into the northwest and north-=20
    central Gulf will slow the south and east progression of the=20
    surface cold front and pre-frontal buoyant airmass. ML CAPE values
    should rise to 1000 J/kg or so across the southernmost=20
    Appalachians while areas of the Gulf Coast see 2000-3000 J/kg of ML
    CAPE. With precipitable water values at or above 2", hourly rain=20
    amounts to 2.5" with local totals to 4" are possible wherever short
    periods of training or cell mergers are able to occur. Activity=20
    currently across South TX should survive past 12z, so looped the=20
    Marginal Risk to encompass this area. At the present time, any
    flash flood issues are expected to be isolated to widely scattered.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...
    Numerous showers and thunderstorms are expected across the=20
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. An upper low should slow to a crawl=20
    across southeast California. Precipitable water values should=20
    remain as high as 1.25-1.5" in spots, but the guidance shows more=20
    potential on the ML CAPE front when compared to Thursday, with=20
    values of 2000-3000 J/kg possible as available moisture interacts=20
    with the cold pool aloft. Widespread shower and thunderstorm=20
    coverage is expected, particularly during the afternoon and evening
    hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the Day 2 area,=20
    was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and New Mexico,=20
    but it could be higher end Slight Risk. Hourly rain amounts to 2"=20
    are possible where cells merge and/or train.

    ...Southeast...
    A boundary will remain in place as a cold low forms near the base
    of an upper level trough, a feature that lingers for a while near
    the Southern Appalachians. Moisture and instability lifting ahead=20
    of the closing system will support periods of showers and storms.=20 Precipitable water values of up to 2" with ML CAPE to 1000 J/kg=20
    across the Piedmont and 2000-3000 J/kg in coastal areas are=20
    expected, which could yield hourly rain amounts to 2.5" and local=20
    totals to 4".

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS & NEW MEXICO...

    Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    An upper low remains fixed across the Lower Colorado River while=20
    Gulf Moisture streams into the TX Big Bend and New Mexico, moving=20
    up the Rio Grande. Precipitable water values of 1.25-1.5" are=20
    forecast, which when combined with up to 1000 J/kg of ML CAPE could
    yield hourly amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" where cells=20
    train and/or merge. Believe the risk level from continuity (Slight)
    conveys the risk appropriately at this time for portions of far=20
    west TX and NM. Closer to the upper level center across the=20
    Southwest, slow-moving convection is possible under the cold pool=20
    aloft. Based on the decline of the 1000-500 hPa thickness across UT
    towards 5670 meters, limited the northern extent of the Marginal=20
    Risk to southern UT which is about the northern extent of the 0.75" precipitable water value, which was coordinated with the SLC/Salt=20
    Lake City forecast office.


    Carolinas/Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    Divergence aloft around the eastern periphery of a cold low near=20
    the Southern Appalachians maintains precipitable water values of=20
    2"+ near the coast, which should also see the greatest instability,
    up to 1000 J/kg. The guidance shows a bit of dispersion here in=20 placement/northeast movement of the heavy rain area with the GFS=20
    and NAM in their usual camps (fast and slow, respectively). Hourly
    rain amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" are expected, similar=20
    to previous days. Forecast uncertainty, as much as anything else,
    maintained the risk level as a Marginal. Should the guidance
    converge, areas of risk overlap between Friday and Saturday across
    portions of the coastal plain of the Carolinas could see an upgrade
    to a Slight Risk at some point as we get closer to Saturday.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8d6S6hXccTsH19rRH0Qi33rV8GxukYYaBJ1hptk_YTN2= AWJBYiyy2bTfeMod-9cDlmloi4Pv0WJhyUPQNkA4bHetHY4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8d6S6hXccTsH19rRH0Qi33rV8GxukYYaBJ1hptk_YTN2= AWJBYiyy2bTfeMod-9cDlmloi4Pv0WJhyUPQNkA4iTG57mM$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8d6S6hXccTsH19rRH0Qi33rV8GxukYYaBJ1hptk_YTN2= AWJBYiyy2bTfeMod-9cDlmloi4Pv0WJhyUPQNkA4OZkyHfw$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 251558
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1158 AM EDT Thu Sep 25 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO, ALONG WITH PARTS OF EASTERN
    CALIFORNIA INTO WESTERN NEVADA...

    ...Southwest to Sierra Nevada...

    ...1600 UTC Update...

    Per collaboration with affected WFOs, have hoisted a Slight Risk
    area across the central Sierra (south of Lake Tahoe) into parts of
    western NV. This was based on some of the guidance trends,
    including the 06Z HREF and RRFS ensembles, and continuing with the
    12Z CAMs. The 12Z HREF Z HREF probs of 0.50+ in/hr rates are aoa=20
    70% between 19-03Z this evening, while probs of 3-hourly QPF=20
    exceeding 3-hourly FFG top out between 40-50%, which is impressive.

    ...Previous discussion...

    A cold low near the central California coast is forecast to drop
    southeast into southern California by early Friday. With cold air
    aloft overlying sufficient moisture near and east of the upper
    center, locally heavy amounts are possible from the Sierra Nevada
    east into southern Nevada and southwestern Utah.

    Ahead of the system, increasing southerly flow will draw deeper
    moisture into the Southwest from the Gulf of CA, fueling
    widespread shower and thunderstorm coverage, especially across
    southeastern and central Arizona into southwestern New Mexico. ML
    CAPE should rise into the 1000-2000 J/kg range. A Slight Risk was
    maintained across this area where cold air aloft interacts with
    monsoon-like moisture, with precipitable water values as high as
    1.25-1.5". Hourly rain amounts to 2" are possible where cells merge
    and/or train.


    ...Northeast/Upper Ohio Valley...
    Unsettled weather at the present time is forecast to continue into
    Thursday as showers and storms stream east across the Upper Ohio
    Valley, WV, and southwest PA ahead of a shortwave aloft and surface
    frontal wave. While there may be a gap in heavy rainfall between
    this region and points farther east, chose to connect the areas
    and significantly broaden the inherited Marginal Risk.
    Strengthening southwesterly flow along the Mid Atlantic coast into
    the Northeast will support deepening moisture (PWs increasing to
    ~2") and ML CAPE surpasses 1000 J/kg. Hourly amounts to 2.5" are
    possible in this region with local totals to 4", but coverage of
    such amounts should be sparse enough for a Marginal Risk to still
    apply.


    ...Southern Appalachians into parts of the Gulf Coast...
    Amplifying mid-upper trough digging into the northwest and north-
    central Gulf will slow the south and east progression of the
    surface cold front and pre-frontal buoyant airmass. ML CAPE values
    should rise to 1000 J/kg or so across the southernmost
    Appalachians while areas of the Gulf Coast see 2000-3000 J/kg of ML
    CAPE. With precipitable water values at or above 2", hourly rain
    amounts to 2.5" with local totals to 4" are possible wherever short
    periods of training or cell mergers are able to occur. Activity
    currently across South TX should survive past 12z, so looped the
    Marginal Risk to encompass this area. At the present time, any
    flash flood issues are expected to be isolated to widely scattered.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...
    Numerous showers and thunderstorms are expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. An upper low should slow to a crawl
    across southeast California. Precipitable water values should
    remain as high as 1.25-1.5" in spots, but the guidance shows more
    potential on the ML CAPE front when compared to Thursday, with
    values of 2000-3000 J/kg possible as available moisture interacts
    with the cold pool aloft. Widespread shower and thunderstorm
    coverage is expected, particularly during the afternoon and evening
    hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the Day 2 area,
    was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and New Mexico,
    but it could be higher end Slight Risk. Hourly rain amounts to 2"
    are possible where cells merge and/or train.

    ...Southeast...
    A boundary will remain in place as a cold low forms near the base
    of an upper level trough, a feature that lingers for a while near
    the Southern Appalachians. Moisture and instability lifting ahead
    of the closing system will support periods of showers and storms.
    Precipitable water values of up to 2" with ML CAPE to 1000 J/kg
    across the Piedmont and 2000-3000 J/kg in coastal areas are
    expected, which could yield hourly rain amounts to 2.5" and local
    totals to 4".

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS & NEW MEXICO...

    Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    An upper low remains fixed across the Lower Colorado River while
    Gulf Moisture streams into the TX Big Bend and New Mexico, moving
    up the Rio Grande. Precipitable water values of 1.25-1.5" are
    forecast, which when combined with up to 1000 J/kg of ML CAPE could
    yield hourly amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" where cells
    train and/or merge. Believe the risk level from continuity (Slight)
    conveys the risk appropriately at this time for portions of far
    west TX and NM. Closer to the upper level center across the
    Southwest, slow-moving convection is possible under the cold pool
    aloft. Based on the decline of the 1000-500 hPa thickness across UT
    towards 5670 meters, limited the northern extent of the Marginal
    Risk to southern UT which is about the northern extent of the 0.75" precipitable water value, which was coordinated with the SLC/Salt
    Lake City forecast office.


    Carolinas/Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    Divergence aloft around the eastern periphery of a cold low near
    the Southern Appalachians maintains precipitable water values of
    2"+ near the coast, which should also see the greatest instability,
    up to 1000 J/kg. The guidance shows a bit of dispersion here in placement/northeast movement of the heavy rain area with the GFS
    and NAM in their usual camps (fast and slow, respectively). Hourly
    rain amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" are expected, similar
    to previous days. Forecast uncertainty, as much as anything else,
    maintained the risk level as a Marginal. Should the guidance
    converge, areas of risk overlap between Friday and Saturday across
    portions of the coastal plain of the Carolinas could see an upgrade
    to a Slight Risk at some point as we get closer to Saturday.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5Tqu12PgsKTP4SrXRi0HHmNGrgquFsh7PveHA1GRB2ab= e6avY1VTV7Mpxt0LZe9v8I-z_t5o3mbeDtjolqO7Sq3Zl00$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5Tqu12PgsKTP4SrXRi0HHmNGrgquFsh7PveHA1GRB2ab= e6avY1VTV7Mpxt0LZe9v8I-z_t5o3mbeDtjolqO7Uxmygm0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5Tqu12PgsKTP4SrXRi0HHmNGrgquFsh7PveHA1GRB2ab= e6avY1VTV7Mpxt0LZe9v8I-z_t5o3mbeDtjolqO7CxXHzDw$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Sep 25 16:00:10 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 251559
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1159 AM EDT Thu Sep 25 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO, ALONG WITH PARTS OF EASTERN
    CALIFORNIA INTO WESTERN NEVADA...

    ...Southwest to Sierra Nevada...

    ...1600 UTC Update...

    Per collaboration with affected WFOs, have hoisted a Slight Risk
    area across the central Sierra (south of Lake Tahoe) into parts of
    western NV. This was based on some of the guidance trends,
    including the 06Z HREF and RRFS ensembles, and continuing with the
    12Z CAMs. The 12Z HREF Z HREF probs of 0.50+ in/hr rates are aoa
    70% between 19-03Z this evening, while probs of 3-hourly QPF
    exceeding 3-hourly FFG top out between 40-50%, which is impressive.

    ...Previous discussion...

    A cold low near the central California coast is forecast to drop
    southeast into southern California by early Friday. With cold air
    aloft overlying sufficient moisture near and east of the upper
    center, locally heavy amounts are possible from the Sierra Nevada
    east into southern Nevada and southwestern Utah.

    Ahead of the system, increasing southerly flow will draw deeper
    moisture into the Southwest from the Gulf of CA, fueling
    widespread shower and thunderstorm coverage, especially across
    southeastern and central Arizona into southwestern New Mexico. ML
    CAPE should rise into the 1000-2000 J/kg range. A Slight Risk was
    maintained across this area where cold air aloft interacts with
    monsoon-like moisture, with precipitable water values as high as
    1.25-1.5". Hourly rain amounts to 2" are possible where cells merge
    and/or train.


    ...Northeast/Upper Ohio Valley...
    Unsettled weather at the present time is forecast to continue into
    Thursday as showers and storms stream east across the Upper Ohio
    Valley, WV, and southwest PA ahead of a shortwave aloft and surface
    frontal wave. While there may be a gap in heavy rainfall between
    this region and points farther east, chose to connect the areas
    and significantly broaden the inherited Marginal Risk.
    Strengthening southwesterly flow along the Mid Atlantic coast into
    the Northeast will support deepening moisture (PWs increasing to
    ~2") and ML CAPE surpasses 1000 J/kg. Hourly amounts to 2.5" are
    possible in this region with local totals to 4", but coverage of
    such amounts should be sparse enough for a Marginal Risk to still
    apply.


    ...Southern Appalachians into parts of the Gulf Coast...
    Amplifying mid-upper trough digging into the northwest and north-
    central Gulf will slow the south and east progression of the
    surface cold front and pre-frontal buoyant airmass. ML CAPE values
    should rise to 1000 J/kg or so across the southernmost
    Appalachians while areas of the Gulf Coast see 2000-3000 J/kg of ML
    CAPE. With precipitable water values at or above 2", hourly rain
    amounts to 2.5" with local totals to 4" are possible wherever short
    periods of training or cell mergers are able to occur. At the=20
    present time, any flash flood issues are expected to be isolated to
    widely scattered.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...
    Numerous showers and thunderstorms are expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. An upper low should slow to a crawl
    across southeast California. Precipitable water values should
    remain as high as 1.25-1.5" in spots, but the guidance shows more
    potential on the ML CAPE front when compared to Thursday, with
    values of 2000-3000 J/kg possible as available moisture interacts
    with the cold pool aloft. Widespread shower and thunderstorm
    coverage is expected, particularly during the afternoon and evening
    hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the Day 2 area,
    was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and New Mexico,
    but it could be higher end Slight Risk. Hourly rain amounts to 2"
    are possible where cells merge and/or train.

    ...Southeast...
    A boundary will remain in place as a cold low forms near the base
    of an upper level trough, a feature that lingers for a while near
    the Southern Appalachians. Moisture and instability lifting ahead
    of the closing system will support periods of showers and storms.
    Precipitable water values of up to 2" with ML CAPE to 1000 J/kg
    across the Piedmont and 2000-3000 J/kg in coastal areas are
    expected, which could yield hourly rain amounts to 2.5" and local
    totals to 4".

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS & NEW MEXICO...

    Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    An upper low remains fixed across the Lower Colorado River while
    Gulf Moisture streams into the TX Big Bend and New Mexico, moving
    up the Rio Grande. Precipitable water values of 1.25-1.5" are
    forecast, which when combined with up to 1000 J/kg of ML CAPE could
    yield hourly amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" where cells
    train and/or merge. Believe the risk level from continuity (Slight)
    conveys the risk appropriately at this time for portions of far
    west TX and NM. Closer to the upper level center across the
    Southwest, slow-moving convection is possible under the cold pool
    aloft. Based on the decline of the 1000-500 hPa thickness across UT
    towards 5670 meters, limited the northern extent of the Marginal
    Risk to southern UT which is about the northern extent of the 0.75" precipitable water value, which was coordinated with the SLC/Salt
    Lake City forecast office.


    Carolinas/Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    Divergence aloft around the eastern periphery of a cold low near
    the Southern Appalachians maintains precipitable water values of
    2"+ near the coast, which should also see the greatest instability,
    up to 1000 J/kg. The guidance shows a bit of dispersion here in placement/northeast movement of the heavy rain area with the GFS
    and NAM in their usual camps (fast and slow, respectively). Hourly
    rain amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" are expected, similar
    to previous days. Forecast uncertainty, as much as anything else,
    maintained the risk level as a Marginal. Should the guidance
    converge, areas of risk overlap between Friday and Saturday across
    portions of the coastal plain of the Carolinas could see an upgrade
    to a Slight Risk at some point as we get closer to Saturday.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5rFIq1evtVlwy1YC8dPM6VZyWSFgQI-8Dro3_N3WA49_= snStVkXqJPbLL755PAet-tPqsJqaq4oTD5PU6_EEE5LXC0o$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5rFIq1evtVlwy1YC8dPM6VZyWSFgQI-8Dro3_N3WA49_= snStVkXqJPbLL755PAet-tPqsJqaq4oTD5PU6_EEQ4VMtUQ$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5rFIq1evtVlwy1YC8dPM6VZyWSFgQI-8Dro3_N3WA49_= snStVkXqJPbLL755PAet-tPqsJqaq4oTD5PU6_EEXceNI-k$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Sep 25 19:48:00 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 251947
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    347 PM EDT Thu Sep 25 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO, ALONG WITH PARTS OF EASTERN
    CALIFORNIA INTO WESTERN NEVADA...

    ...Southwest to Sierra Nevada...

    ...1600 UTC Update...
    Per collaboration with affected WFOs, have hoisted a Slight Risk=20
    area across the central Sierra (south of Lake Tahoe) into parts of=20
    western NV. This was based on some of the guidance trends,=20
    including the 06Z HREF and RRFS ensembles, and continuing with the=20
    12Z CAMs. The 12Z HREF Z HREF probs of 0.50+ in/hr rates are aoa=20
    70% between 19-03Z this evening, while probs of 3-hourly QPF=20
    exceeding 3-hourly FFG top out between 40-50%, which is impressive.

    ...Previous discussion...
    A cold low near the central California coast is forecast to drop=20
    southeast into southern California by early Friday. With cold air=20
    aloft overlying sufficient moisture near and east of the upper=20
    center, locally heavy amounts are possible from the Sierra Nevada=20
    east into southern Nevada and southwestern Utah.

    Ahead of the system, increasing southerly flow will draw deeper
    moisture into the Southwest from the Gulf of CA, fueling
    widespread shower and thunderstorm coverage, especially across
    southeastern and central Arizona into southwestern New Mexico. ML
    CAPE should rise into the 1000-2000 J/kg range. A Slight Risk was
    maintained across this area where cold air aloft interacts with
    monsoon-like moisture, with precipitable water values as high as
    1.25-1.5". Hourly rain amounts to 2" are possible where cells merge
    and/or train.

    ...Northeast/Upper Ohio Valley...
    Unsettled weather at the present time is forecast to continue into
    Thursday as showers and storms stream east across the Upper Ohio=20
    Valley, WV, and southwest PA ahead of a shortwave aloft and surface
    frontal wave. While there may be a gap in heavy rainfall between=20
    this region and points farther east, chose to connect the areas and significantly broaden the inherited Marginal Risk. Strengthening=20 southwesterly flow along the Mid Atlantic coast into the Northeast=20
    will support deepening moisture (PWs increasing to ~2") and ML CAPE
    surpasses 1000 J/kg. Hourly amounts to 2.5" are possible in this=20
    region with local totals to 4", but coverage of such amounts should
    be sparse enough for a Marginal Risk to still apply.

    ...Southern Appalachians into parts of the Gulf Coast...
    Amplifying mid-upper trough digging into the northwest and north-=20
    central Gulf will slow the south and east progression of the=20
    surface cold front and pre-frontal buoyant airmass. ML CAPE values=20
    should rise to 1000 J/kg or so across the southernmost Appalachians
    while areas of the Gulf Coast see 2000-3000 J/kg of ML CAPE. With=20 precipitable water values at or above 2", hourly rain amounts to=20
    2.5" with local totals to 4" are possible wherever short periods of
    training or cell mergers are able to occur. At the present time,=20
    any flash flood issues are expected to be isolated to widely=20
    scattered.

    Hurley/Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...

    ...2000 UTC Update...
    At most, only minor changes made to the Day 2 ERO. Most notably,=20
    we expanded the Slight Risk area slightly westward, which now=20
    includes the Phoenix metro region and is closer to to Prescott and=20 Flagstaff. This is based on the latest (more elevated_ HREF and=20
    RRFS rainfall exceedance probabilities for Friday afternoon and=20
    evening, especially the probs for 0.50-1.00+ in/hr rainfall, along=20
    with the probs of 3-hourly rainfall exceeding current 3-hour FFG=20
    40% within the Slight Risk area between 20-03Z).

    ...Previous Discussion...
    Numerous showers and thunderstorms are expected across the=20
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. An upper low should slow to a crawl=20
    across southeast California. Precipitable water values should=20
    remain as high as 1.25-1.5" in spots, but the guidance shows more=20
    potential on the ML CAPE front when compared to Thursday, with=20
    values of 2000-3000 J/kg possible as available moisture interacts=20
    with the cold pool aloft. Widespread shower and thunderstorm=20
    coverage is expected, particularly during the afternoon and evening
    hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the Day 2 area,=20
    was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and New Mexico,=20
    but it could be higher end Slight Risk. Hourly rain amounts to 2"=20
    are possible where cells merge and/or train.

    ...Southeast...
    A boundary will remain in place as a cold low forms near the base=20
    of an upper level trough, a feature that lingers for a while near=20
    the Southern Appalachians. Moisture and instability lifting ahead=20
    of the closing system will support periods of showers and storms.=20 Precipitable water values of up to 2" with ML CAPE to 1000 J/kg=20
    across the Piedmont and 2000-3000 J/kg in coastal areas are=20
    expected, which could yield hourly rain amounts to 2.5" and local=20
    totals to 4".

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS & NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest/Southern Rockies...

    ...2000 UTC Update...
    Expanded the Slight Risk area across NM, particularly northwest=20
    NM, based on the latest (12Z) deterministic and probabilistic=20
    guidance trends with the deepening low eventually cutting over=20
    southeast CA/southwest AZ by Saturday. Model QPFs seem to be=20
    convergence, which is boosting confidence to expand the Slight=20
    farther north toward the NM-CO border. The area also aligns with=20
    where the ECMWF and GFS show highest MUCAPEs (at least 500 J/Kg).=20

    ...Previous Discussion...
    An upper low remains fixed across the Lower Colorado River while=20
    Gulf Moisture streams into the TX Big Bend and New Mexico, moving=20
    up the Rio Grande. Precipitable water values of 1.25-1.5" are=20
    forecast, which when combined with up to 1000 J/kg of ML CAPE could
    yield hourly amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" where cells=20
    train and/or merge. Believe the risk level from continuity (Slight)
    conveys the risk appropriately at this time for portions of far=20
    west TX and NM. Closer to the upper level center across the=20
    Southwest, slow-moving convection is possible under the cold pool=20
    aloft. Based on the decline of the 1000-500 hPa thickness across UT
    towards 5670 meters, limited the northern extent of the Marginal=20
    Risk to southern UT which is about the northern extent of the 0.75" precipitable water value, which was coordinated with the SLC/Salt=20
    Lake City forecast office.

    ...Carolinas/Southern Mid-Atlantic States...

    ...2000 UTC Update...
    Minimal changes made to the previous Day 3 ERO in this area. Still
    cannot rule an upgrade to a Slight Risk somewhere over the Coastal
    Plain from SC-VA (see previous discussion); however, the guidance=20
    spread with respect to the QPF remains quite a bit high at this=20
    time to include a targeted Slight Risk area.

    ...Previous Discussion...
    Divergence aloft around the eastern periphery of a cold low near=20
    the Southern Appalachians maintains precipitable water values of=20
    2"+ near the coast, which should also see the greatest instability,
    up to 1000 J/kg. The guidance shows a bit of dispersion here in=20 placement/northeast movement of the heavy rain area with the GFS=20
    and NAM in their usual camps (fast and slow, respectively). Hourly=20
    rain amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" are expected, similar=20
    to previous days. Forecast uncertainty, as much as anything else,=20
    maintained the risk level as a Marginal. Should the guidance=20
    converge, areas of risk overlap between Friday and Saturday across=20
    portions of the coastal plain of the Carolinas could see an upgrade
    to a Slight Risk at some point as we get closer to Saturday.

    Hurley/Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-h3bSQrJyfY3Z5jDR128vyuG0vaHTpcJTNKqqKe1_Lo_= UUO6AwusAYuGLUenFtvOVVvse12ErqsVBQJ1leSktUVghXA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-h3bSQrJyfY3Z5jDR128vyuG0vaHTpcJTNKqqKe1_Lo_= UUO6AwusAYuGLUenFtvOVVvse12ErqsVBQJ1leSk1-OEGKs$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-h3bSQrJyfY3Z5jDR128vyuG0vaHTpcJTNKqqKe1_Lo_= UUO6AwusAYuGLUenFtvOVVvse12ErqsVBQJ1leSkF5k59XU$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Sep 26 00:38:23 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 260038
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    838 PM EDT Thu Sep 25 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO, ALONG WITH PARTS OF EASTERN
    CALIFORNIA INTO WESTERN NEVADA...

    ...01Z Update...

    ...Southwest...

    Moisture streaming north around a digging positively tilted trough
    has resulting in a corridor of showers and thunderstorms extending
    from the AZ/NM/Mexico tripoint north and west to west-central
    Nevada. The strongest storms and by far the most prolific flash
    flooding are across eastern Arizona into southwestern New Mexico,
    where atmospheric moisture levels are their highest. Heavy rain
    associated with scattered thunderstorms will likely continue for a
    few more hours with daytime heating, then will rapidly diminish in
    coverage and intensity after sunset. A similar scenario is also
    occurring up north, where a Slight Risk area covers a portion of
    the NV/CA border south of Lake Tahoe. In similar fashion as=20
    further south, the steady rain will likely persist for another few=20
    hours, followed by rapid weakening and dissipation of all=20
    precipitation producing showers and storms soon after sunset. The=20
    Slight Risk in this area was expanded north to cover some of the=20
    flash flooding occurring southeast of Lake Tahoe, but overall a=20
    very minor adjustment.

    ...Northeast...

    The inherited Marginal Risk across the Northeast was split with
    this update to the area around the OH/WV/PA tripoint and the
    northern West Virginia Panhandle, with a second one for much of
    southern New England. In the upper Ohio Valley, scattered showers
    and storms over southeastern Ohio are moving into an area hard hit
    with heavy rain in recent days. Thus, even small amounts of rain in
    this terrain may result in renewed flash flooding. Into New
    England, a line of moderate to heavy rain is moving into western
    New England, and may cause isolated flash flooding in areas that
    have seen more rain from the area of rain now moving across Maine,
    otherwise the flash flooding threat has largely ended, especially
    in most of PA and NY.

    ...Southeast...

    No major changes were made as ongoing clusters of showers and
    thunderstorms may still pose an isolated flash flooding threat into
    the overnight, though overall coverage should continue gradually
    decreasing with the loss of solar heating.

    Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...

    ...2000 UTC Update...
    At most, only minor changes made to the Day 2 ERO. Most notably,
    we expanded the Slight Risk area slightly westward, which now
    includes the Phoenix metro region and is closer to to Prescott and
    Flagstaff. This is based on the latest (more elevated_ HREF and
    RRFS rainfall exceedance probabilities for Friday afternoon and
    evening, especially the probs for 0.50-1.00+ in/hr rainfall, along
    with the probs of 3-hourly rainfall exceeding current 3-hour FFG
    40% within the Slight Risk area between 20-03Z).

    ...Previous Discussion...
    Numerous showers and thunderstorms are expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. An upper low should slow to a crawl
    across southeast California. Precipitable water values should
    remain as high as 1.25-1.5" in spots, but the guidance shows more
    potential on the ML CAPE front when compared to Thursday, with
    values of 2000-3000 J/kg possible as available moisture interacts
    with the cold pool aloft. Widespread shower and thunderstorm
    coverage is expected, particularly during the afternoon and evening
    hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the Day 2 area,
    was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and New Mexico,
    but it could be higher end Slight Risk. Hourly rain amounts to 2"
    are possible where cells merge and/or train.

    ...Southeast...
    A boundary will remain in place as a cold low forms near the base
    of an upper level trough, a feature that lingers for a while near
    the Southern Appalachians. Moisture and instability lifting ahead
    of the closing system will support periods of showers and storms.
    Precipitable water values of up to 2" with ML CAPE to 1000 J/kg
    across the Piedmont and 2000-3000 J/kg in coastal areas are
    expected, which could yield hourly rain amounts to 2.5" and local
    totals to 4".

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS & NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest/Southern Rockies...

    ...2000 UTC Update...
    Expanded the Slight Risk area across NM, particularly northwest
    NM, based on the latest (12Z) deterministic and probabilistic
    guidance trends with the deepening low eventually cutting over
    southeast CA/southwest AZ by Saturday. Model QPFs seem to be
    convergence, which is boosting confidence to expand the Slight
    farther north toward the NM-CO border. The area also aligns with
    where the ECMWF and GFS show highest MUCAPEs (at least 500 J/Kg).

    ...Previous Discussion...
    An upper low remains fixed across the Lower Colorado River while
    Gulf Moisture streams into the TX Big Bend and New Mexico, moving
    up the Rio Grande. Precipitable water values of 1.25-1.5" are
    forecast, which when combined with up to 1000 J/kg of ML CAPE could
    yield hourly amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" where cells
    train and/or merge. Believe the risk level from continuity (Slight)
    conveys the risk appropriately at this time for portions of far
    west TX and NM. Closer to the upper level center across the
    Southwest, slow-moving convection is possible under the cold pool
    aloft. Based on the decline of the 1000-500 hPa thickness across UT
    towards 5670 meters, limited the northern extent of the Marginal
    Risk to southern UT which is about the northern extent of the 0.75" precipitable water value, which was coordinated with the SLC/Salt
    Lake City forecast office.

    ...Carolinas/Southern Mid-Atlantic States...

    ...2000 UTC Update...
    Minimal changes made to the previous Day 3 ERO in this area. Still
    cannot rule an upgrade to a Slight Risk somewhere over the Coastal
    Plain from SC-VA (see previous discussion); however, the guidance
    spread with respect to the QPF remains quite a bit high at this
    time to include a targeted Slight Risk area.

    ...Previous Discussion...
    Divergence aloft around the eastern periphery of a cold low near
    the Southern Appalachians maintains precipitable water values of
    2"+ near the coast, which should also see the greatest instability,
    up to 1000 J/kg. The guidance shows a bit of dispersion here in placement/northeast movement of the heavy rain area with the GFS
    and NAM in their usual camps (fast and slow, respectively). Hourly
    rain amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" are expected, similar
    to previous days. Forecast uncertainty, as much as anything else,
    maintained the risk level as a Marginal. Should the guidance
    converge, areas of risk overlap between Friday and Saturday across
    portions of the coastal plain of the Carolinas could see an upgrade
    to a Slight Risk at some point as we get closer to Saturday.

    Hurley/Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6YmSsLc3Hz2al0zQa0LUEiA65zKbo3NmcArBMC2w4u0j= 6sIEdJQsLJb9ozBTBFysqxBt2hYZ-jgkY4SDI6ZyvOoooXk$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6YmSsLc3Hz2al0zQa0LUEiA65zKbo3NmcArBMC2w4u0j= 6sIEdJQsLJb9ozBTBFysqxBt2hYZ-jgkY4SDI6ZyZmehpr0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6YmSsLc3Hz2al0zQa0LUEiA65zKbo3NmcArBMC2w4u0j= 6sIEdJQsLJb9ozBTBFysqxBt2hYZ-jgkY4SDI6ZyOY64Im8$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Sep 26 08:08:19 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 260808
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    408 AM EDT Fri Sep 26 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST & IN THE VICINITY OF THE CAROLINAS...

    ...Southwest...
    Numerous showers and thunderstorms are expected across the=20
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico, which should occur primarily during the
    afternoon and evening hours. An upper low should slow to a crawl=20
    across southeast California. Precipitable water values should=20
    remain as high as 1.25-1.5" in spots. ML CAPE values of 2000-3000=20
    J/kg are possible as available moisture interacts with the cold=20
    pool aloft. A Slight Risk was maintained across parts of Arizona=20
    and New Mexico, but it could be higher end Slight Risk. Hourly rain
    amounts to 2" with local totals to 4" are possible where cells=20
    merge and/or train.


    ...Southeast...
    A boundary will remain in place as a cold low forms near the base
    of an upper level trough, a feature that lingers for a while near
    the Southern Appalachians. Farther inland across the Piedmont, some
    degree of upslope flow should bring some of the higher moisture
    back in from the southeast. Moisture and instability lifting ahead
    of the closing system will support periods of showers and storms.=20 Precipitable water values of up to 2" with MU CAPE of 1000+ J/kg=20
    across the Piedmont and 2000-3000 J/kg in coastal areas are=20
    expected, which could yield hourly rain amounts to 2.5" and local=20
    totals to 4". As the 00z HREF and 18z REFS had their strongest=20
    signal for 3"+ and 5"+ across far southwest VA and the western=20
    Carolinas, a Slight Risk was added in this update, which was=20
    coordinated with the local offices. For the time being, a Slight=20
    Risk was left out across the coastal plain of the Carolinas as=20
    recent dryness could make a higher incidence of flash flooding=20
    harder to come by, which was coordinated with the coastal Carolina=20
    offices.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025


    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS & NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    An upper low remains fixed across the Lower Colorado River while=20
    Gulf Moisture streams into the TX Big Bend and New Mexico, moving=20
    up the Rio Grande. Precipitable water values of 1.25-1.5" are=20
    forecast, which when combined with 1000+ J/kg of ML CAPE could=20
    yield hourly amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" where cells=20
    train and/or merge. Believe the risk level from continuity (Slight)
    conveys the risk appropriately at this time for portions of far=20
    west TX and NM. Closer to the upper level center across the=20
    Southwest, slow-moving convection is possible under the cold pool=20
    aloft, with ML CAPE of 1000-2000 J/kg of instability and
    precipitable water values in the Lower Desert of 1-1.25" expected.
    Based on the decline of the 1000-500 hPa thickness across UT=20
    towards 5670 meters, limited the northern extent of the Marginal=20
    Risk to southern UT which is about the northern extent of the 0.75" precipitable water value.


    ...Carolinas/Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    Divergence aloft around the eastern periphery of a cold low near=20
    the Southern Appalachians and what is now a tropical disturbance
    moving through the Bahamas as a possible tropical cyclone on=20
    Saturday team up to maintain precipitable water values of up to
    2.25" across the coastal plain, which should also see the greatest
    instability, 1000-2000 J/kg. The Piedmont should see times when the
    MU CAPE rises above 500 J/kg. This is a PRE-like set up for the=20
    region, so the heavy rainfall potential has a higher upside than=20
    usual. There has been some convergence in the model guidance QPF-=20
    wise, and both the 00z HREF and 18z REFS had a cohesive and=20
    agreeable enough heavy rain threat of 3"+ for a new Slight Risk=20
    area from roughly Richmond VA south on both sides of the fall line=20
    into eastern SC. Hourly rain amounts to 3" and local totals to 6"=20
    are possible, which is potentially problematic anywhere within the=20
    Slight Risk area. A higher risk level can't be ruled out in future=20
    updates.

    Roth



    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS, NEW MEXICO, & THE CAROLINAS...

    Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    The combination of an upper low moving to near the Four Corners, a
    kicker upper level trough moving into CA, and moisture feed from=20
    the Gulf into NM persist into Sunday. Precipitable water values
    remain above 1" locally in the Desert Southwest and 1-1.25" in the
    Southern High Plains. Pockets of 1000+ J/kg of ML/MU CAPE are
    forecast to develop and/or persist. A Slight Risk still appears=20
    reasonable across portions of far west TX and NM, with a broader=20
    Marginal Risk surrounding that. The guidance appears to be trending
    somewhat drier across the Great Basin, so limited the northern=20
    extent of the Marginal Risk area when compared to continuity.


    Florida northward into the Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    A system now considered a tropical disturbance over Hispaniola
    should lie somewhere north of the Bahamas and east of Florida as a
    possible tropical or hybrid cyclone on Sunday. The upper level=20
    environment doesn't look kind for whatever emerges, and there are=20
    two scenarios -- a more convective system that remains offshore=20
    during the medium range period or a more sheared system that=20
    attempts to occlude when it approaches landfall early next week.=20
    The guidance is not ideal in differentiating which is correct=20
    during these scenarios, historically.=20

    Regardless, moisture will not be a problem regionally --
    precipitable water values locally 2"+. Coastal areas will see=20
    1000+ J/kg of ML CAPE while 250+ J/kg of MU CAPE invades portions=20
    of VA. The guidance has slowed down the approach of the tropical=20
    low since yesterday, but the other players in the flow pattern=20
    remain -- the upper low near the southern Appalachians/southern=20
    Cumberland Plateau and the front near the East Coast. A PRE- like=20
    set up appears to be in the cards, with moisture streaming into the
    front from the south. The best signal for heavy rainfall on Sunday
    into early Monday appears to be in the vicinity of Myrtle Beach,=20
    and considering previous days of rain, thought a new Slight Risk in
    that area would be prudent. In theory, hourly rain amounts to 3"=20
    should be possible, which would be most problematic should=20
    thunderstorms merge or train.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7kCeOPjehPYiHHnnWyFIadM5ZEv3yQ4h7x500EE-ws-1= M87BBQ-OzLnFQYIBIvFPuY78zriws5PyHyHIhQw3T5d5Y3c$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7kCeOPjehPYiHHnnWyFIadM5ZEv3yQ4h7x500EE-ws-1= M87BBQ-OzLnFQYIBIvFPuY78zriws5PyHyHIhQw3Wqd56Fo$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7kCeOPjehPYiHHnnWyFIadM5ZEv3yQ4h7x500EE-ws-1= M87BBQ-OzLnFQYIBIvFPuY78zriws5PyHyHIhQw3FvcRo40$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Sep 26 16:02:59 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 261602
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1202 PM EDT Fri Sep 26 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST & IN THE VICINITY OF THE CAROLINAS...

    16z Update: Not many changes needed to the inherited outlook from
    earlier this morning. Central to southern AZ remains the focus for
    potentially locally significant flash flooding. Pretty impressive
    southerly inflow/moisture transport combined with upwards of 2000
    J/KG of CAPE will support a backbuilding convective threat today.
    Main question will be how much of this moves off the terrain and
    towards the Phoenix to Tuscon urban corridor. The initial tendency
    will be for convection to focus in the terrain areas, likely
    growing in coverage and intensity. If a strong enough outflow can
    push south out of this activity then we could see convection move
    off the terrain and into the lower elevations/urban areas. If this
    happens the strong southerly flow will support=20
    backbuilding/training and an increased flash flood risk. HREF and=20
    REFS probabilities support 2-4" rainfall totals where this training
    is able to persist. However still unclear whether these totals are
    able to move southward out of the higher terrain...but there is=20
    certainly some potential for this scenario.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southwest...
    Numerous showers and thunderstorms are expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico, which should occur primarily during the
    afternoon and evening hours. An upper low should slow to a crawl
    across southeast California. Precipitable water values should
    remain as high as 1.25-1.5" in spots. ML CAPE values of 2000-3000
    J/kg are possible as available moisture interacts with the cold
    pool aloft. A Slight Risk was maintained across parts of Arizona
    and New Mexico, but it could be higher end Slight Risk. Hourly rain
    amounts to 2" with local totals to 4" are possible where cells
    merge and/or train.


    ...Southeast...
    A boundary will remain in place as a cold low forms near the base
    of an upper level trough, a feature that lingers for a while near
    the Southern Appalachians. Farther inland across the Piedmont, some
    degree of upslope flow should bring some of the higher moisture
    back in from the southeast. Moisture and instability lifting ahead
    of the closing system will support periods of showers and storms.
    Precipitable water values of up to 2" with MU CAPE of 1000+ J/kg
    across the Piedmont and 2000-3000 J/kg in coastal areas are
    expected, which could yield hourly rain amounts to 2.5" and local
    totals to 4". As the 00z HREF and 18z REFS had their strongest
    signal for 3"+ and 5"+ across far southwest VA and the western
    Carolinas, a Slight Risk was added in this update, which was
    coordinated with the local offices. For the time being, a Slight
    Risk was left out across the coastal plain of the Carolinas as
    recent dryness could make a higher incidence of flash flooding
    harder to come by, which was coordinated with the coastal Carolina
    offices.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025


    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS & NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    An upper low remains fixed across the Lower Colorado River while
    Gulf Moisture streams into the TX Big Bend and New Mexico, moving
    up the Rio Grande. Precipitable water values of 1.25-1.5" are
    forecast, which when combined with 1000+ J/kg of ML CAPE could
    yield hourly amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" where cells
    train and/or merge. Believe the risk level from continuity (Slight)
    conveys the risk appropriately at this time for portions of far
    west TX and NM. Closer to the upper level center across the
    Southwest, slow-moving convection is possible under the cold pool
    aloft, with ML CAPE of 1000-2000 J/kg of instability and
    precipitable water values in the Lower Desert of 1-1.25" expected.
    Based on the decline of the 1000-500 hPa thickness across UT
    towards 5670 meters, limited the northern extent of the Marginal
    Risk to southern UT which is about the northern extent of the 0.75" precipitable water value.


    ...Carolinas/Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    Divergence aloft around the eastern periphery of a cold low near
    the Southern Appalachians and what is now a tropical disturbance
    moving through the Bahamas as a possible tropical cyclone on
    Saturday team up to maintain precipitable water values of up to
    2.25" across the coastal plain, which should also see the greatest
    instability, 1000-2000 J/kg. The Piedmont should see times when the
    MU CAPE rises above 500 J/kg. This is a PRE-like set up for the
    region, so the heavy rainfall potential has a higher upside than
    usual. There has been some convergence in the model guidance QPF-
    wise, and both the 00z HREF and 18z REFS had a cohesive and
    agreeable enough heavy rain threat of 3"+ for a new Slight Risk
    area from roughly Richmond VA south on both sides of the fall line
    into eastern SC. Hourly rain amounts to 3" and local totals to 6"
    are possible, which is potentially problematic anywhere within the
    Slight Risk area. A higher risk level can't be ruled out in future
    updates.

    Roth



    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS, NEW MEXICO, & THE CAROLINAS...

    Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    The combination of an upper low moving to near the Four Corners, a
    kicker upper level trough moving into CA, and moisture feed from
    the Gulf into NM persist into Sunday. Precipitable water values
    remain above 1" locally in the Desert Southwest and 1-1.25" in the
    Southern High Plains. Pockets of 1000+ J/kg of ML/MU CAPE are
    forecast to develop and/or persist. A Slight Risk still appears
    reasonable across portions of far west TX and NM, with a broader
    Marginal Risk surrounding that. The guidance appears to be trending
    somewhat drier across the Great Basin, so limited the northern
    extent of the Marginal Risk area when compared to continuity.


    Florida northward into the Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    A system now considered a tropical disturbance over Hispaniola
    should lie somewhere north of the Bahamas and east of Florida as a
    possible tropical or hybrid cyclone on Sunday. The upper level
    environment doesn't look kind for whatever emerges, and there are
    two scenarios -- a more convective system that remains offshore
    during the medium range period or a more sheared system that
    attempts to occlude when it approaches landfall early next week.
    The guidance is not ideal in differentiating which is correct
    during these scenarios, historically.

    Regardless, moisture will not be a problem regionally --
    precipitable water values locally 2"+. Coastal areas will see
    1000+ J/kg of ML CAPE while 250+ J/kg of MU CAPE invades portions
    of VA. The guidance has slowed down the approach of the tropical
    low since yesterday, but the other players in the flow pattern
    remain -- the upper low near the southern Appalachians/southern
    Cumberland Plateau and the front near the East Coast. A PRE- like
    set up appears to be in the cards, with moisture streaming into the
    front from the south. The best signal for heavy rainfall on Sunday
    into early Monday appears to be in the vicinity of Myrtle Beach,
    and considering previous days of rain, thought a new Slight Risk in
    that area would be prudent. In theory, hourly rain amounts to 3"
    should be possible, which would be most problematic should
    thunderstorms merge or train.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_GwtI8hMddDxomy2mdbQ5a7Jw28mxmOvgJgnRRST7IMn= rctn3shEOsqMjKdYMD9N4YpuMXjZiHA_9zUgpyWnQ3QG7KE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_GwtI8hMddDxomy2mdbQ5a7Jw28mxmOvgJgnRRST7IMn= rctn3shEOsqMjKdYMD9N4YpuMXjZiHA_9zUgpyWnXgZhVc8$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_GwtI8hMddDxomy2mdbQ5a7Jw28mxmOvgJgnRRST7IMn= rctn3shEOsqMjKdYMD9N4YpuMXjZiHA_9zUgpyWnlsO0fnk$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Sep 26 20:26:11 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 262026
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    426 PM EDT Fri Sep 26 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST & IN THE VICINITY OF THE CAROLINAS...

    16z Update: Not many changes needed to the inherited outlook from
    earlier this morning. Central to southern AZ remains the focus for
    potentially locally significant flash flooding. Pretty impressive
    southerly inflow/moisture transport combined with upwards of 2000
    J/KG of CAPE will support a backbuilding convective threat today.
    Main question will be how much of this moves off the terrain and
    towards the Phoenix to Tuscon urban corridor. The initial tendency
    will be for convection to focus in the terrain areas, likely
    growing in coverage and intensity. If a strong enough outflow can
    push south out of this activity then we could see convection move
    off the terrain and into the lower elevations/urban areas. If this
    happens the strong southerly flow will support
    backbuilding/training and an increased flash flood risk. HREF and
    REFS probabilities support 2-4" rainfall totals where this training
    is able to persist. However still unclear whether these totals are
    able to move southward out of the higher terrain...but there is
    certainly some potential for this scenario.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southwest...
    Numerous showers and thunderstorms are expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico, which should occur primarily during the
    afternoon and evening hours. An upper low should slow to a crawl
    across southeast California. Precipitable water values should
    remain as high as 1.25-1.5" in spots. ML CAPE values of 2000-3000
    J/kg are possible as available moisture interacts with the cold
    pool aloft. A Slight Risk was maintained across parts of Arizona
    and New Mexico, but it could be higher end Slight Risk. Hourly rain
    amounts to 2" with local totals to 4" are possible where cells
    merge and/or train.


    ...Southeast...
    A boundary will remain in place as a cold low forms near the base
    of an upper level trough, a feature that lingers for a while near
    the Southern Appalachians. Farther inland across the Piedmont, some
    degree of upslope flow should bring some of the higher moisture
    back in from the southeast. Moisture and instability lifting ahead
    of the closing system will support periods of showers and storms.
    Precipitable water values of up to 2" with MU CAPE of 1000+ J/kg
    across the Piedmont and 2000-3000 J/kg in coastal areas are
    expected, which could yield hourly rain amounts to 2.5" and local
    totals to 4". As the 00z HREF and 18z REFS had their strongest
    signal for 3"+ and 5"+ across far southwest VA and the western
    Carolinas, a Slight Risk was added in this update, which was
    coordinated with the local offices. For the time being, a Slight
    Risk was left out across the coastal plain of the Carolinas as
    recent dryness could make a higher incidence of flash flooding
    harder to come by, which was coordinated with the coastal Carolina
    offices.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST AND MID ATLANTIC TO SOUTHEAST...

    20z Update: The Slight risk was maintained over the Mid Atlantic
    with this update. The higher confidence for potential flash=20
    flooding appears to be over portions of central to southeast VA.=20
    This is in the vicinity of the stationary front where lower level=20 convergence should be maximized. Instability will drop off with=20
    northern extent, however we should have enough instability along=20
    and just north of the front to support an axis of low topped=20
    convection. This activity will likely be warm rain dominant, and=20
    thus efficient at producing heavy rainfall rates. The exact axis=20
    remains a bit uncertain, with model solutions varying from near=20
    the NC/VA border on the southern side, to DC on the northern=20
    extent. At the moment the best clustering is around Richmond, but=20
    there is some opportunity for that to shift a bit north or south.=20
    Where this axis does set up, localized rainfall over 4" appears=20
    likely. The Slight risk was expanded a bit northward over central
    and eastern VA to account for this risk.

    Confidence is lower on the Slight risk farther south over NC and=20
    SC. Certainly plenty of moisture in place, but the coverage and=20
    organization of convection is less clear. Also a possibility that=20
    the cells that do form tend to move along at a fast enough clip to=20
    limit the flash flood coverage. The best chance of some training=20
    could be along the coastal corridor where convergence and=20
    instability may be a bit stronger. Overall the flash flood risk=20
    over these areas may end up staying more isolated in nature...but=20
    the potential for greater coverage is still there, and so we will=20
    maintain the recently introduced Slight risk area.

    Over the Southwest a Slight risk area was added to portions of=20
    southeast CA into southwest AZ. The upper level low will remain=20
    over these areas on Saturday providing broad ascent for convective=20 development. Instability over these areas is forecast to be=20
    greater Saturday than Friday, and PWs will remain well above late=20
    September averages. Thus would expect to see greater convective=20
    coverage than today, with heavy rainfall rates likely. The presence
    of the upper low should support slow cell motions and the=20
    potential for periodic cell mergers.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    An upper low remains fixed across the Lower Colorado River while
    Gulf Moisture streams into the TX Big Bend and New Mexico, moving
    up the Rio Grande. Precipitable water values of 1.25-1.5" are
    forecast, which when combined with 1000+ J/kg of ML CAPE could
    yield hourly amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" where cells
    train and/or merge. Believe the risk level from continuity (Slight)
    conveys the risk appropriately at this time for portions of far
    west TX and NM. Closer to the upper level center across the
    Southwest, slow-moving convection is possible under the cold pool
    aloft, with ML CAPE of 1000-2000 J/kg of instability and
    precipitable water values in the Lower Desert of 1-1.25" expected.
    Based on the decline of the 1000-500 hPa thickness across UT
    towards 5670 meters, limited the northern extent of the Marginal
    Risk to southern UT which is about the northern extent of the 0.75" precipitable water value.


    ...Carolinas/Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    Divergence aloft around the eastern periphery of a cold low near
    the Southern Appalachians and what is now a tropical disturbance
    moving through the Bahamas as a possible tropical cyclone on
    Saturday team up to maintain precipitable water values of up to
    2.25" across the coastal plain, which should also see the greatest
    instability, 1000-2000 J/kg. The Piedmont should see times when the
    MU CAPE rises above 500 J/kg. This is a PRE-like set up for the
    region, so the heavy rainfall potential has a higher upside than
    usual. There has been some convergence in the model guidance QPF-
    wise, and both the 00z HREF and 18z REFS had a cohesive and
    agreeable enough heavy rain threat of 3"+ for a new Slight Risk
    area from roughly Richmond VA south on both sides of the fall line
    into eastern SC. Hourly rain amounts to 3" and local totals to 6"
    are possible, which is potentially problematic anywhere within the
    Slight Risk area. A higher risk level can't be ruled out in future
    updates.

    Roth



    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS AND NEW MEXICO...

    20z Update: We did opt to remove the small Slight risk along the
    SC/NC coast with this update. Most guidance suggests the heaviest
    rainfall this period will remain offshore, with greater impacts
    onshore beginning on day 4 (Monday into Tuesday). There is
    certainly some potential for locally heavy rain along coastal
    areas, but at the moment the risk appears localized in nature.=20
    Thus a Marginal risk should be enough to cover this threat for=20
    now and we will continue to monitor trends.

    Little to no change was needed over the Southwest with this=20
    update. Portions of NM into far west TX still look on track for an=20
    isolated to scattered flash flood risk as mid/upper level=20
    troughing moves eastward.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    The combination of an upper low moving to near the Four Corners, a
    kicker upper level trough moving into CA, and moisture feed from
    the Gulf into NM persist into Sunday. Precipitable water values
    remain above 1" locally in the Desert Southwest and 1-1.25" in the
    Southern High Plains. Pockets of 1000+ J/kg of ML/MU CAPE are
    forecast to develop and/or persist. A Slight Risk still appears
    reasonable across portions of far west TX and NM, with a broader
    Marginal Risk surrounding that. The guidance appears to be trending
    somewhat drier across the Great Basin, so limited the northern
    extent of the Marginal Risk area when compared to continuity.


    Florida northward into the Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    A system now considered a tropical disturbance over Hispaniola
    should lie somewhere north of the Bahamas and east of Florida as a
    possible tropical or hybrid cyclone on Sunday. The upper level
    environment doesn't look kind for whatever emerges, and there are
    two scenarios -- a more convective system that remains offshore
    during the medium range period or a more sheared system that
    attempts to occlude when it approaches landfall early next week.
    The guidance is not ideal in differentiating which is correct
    during these scenarios, historically.

    Regardless, moisture will not be a problem regionally --
    precipitable water values locally 2"+. Coastal areas will see
    1000+ J/kg of ML CAPE while 250+ J/kg of MU CAPE invades portions
    of VA. The guidance has slowed down the approach of the tropical
    low since yesterday, but the other players in the flow pattern
    remain -- the upper low near the southern Appalachians/southern
    Cumberland Plateau and the front near the East Coast. A PRE- like
    set up appears to be in the cards, with moisture streaming into the
    front from the south. The best signal for heavy rainfall on Sunday
    into early Monday appears to be in the vicinity of Myrtle Beach,
    and considering previous days of rain, thought a new Slight Risk in
    that area would be prudent. In theory, hourly rain amounts to 3"
    should be possible, which would be most problematic should
    thunderstorms merge or train.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8D-yRoqOmKEr3QqccSN0O-qwsJwkziezGu4czyd0yK3z= sMFdgvHwMhSdW5Z4oFnVwB6XT_-nxe05Uz-V0O9rWs9EfOs$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8D-yRoqOmKEr3QqccSN0O-qwsJwkziezGu4czyd0yK3z= sMFdgvHwMhSdW5Z4oFnVwB6XT_-nxe05Uz-V0O9r3eepMfc$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8D-yRoqOmKEr3QqccSN0O-qwsJwkziezGu4czyd0yK3z= sMFdgvHwMhSdW5Z4oFnVwB6XT_-nxe05Uz-V0O9rn4REM70$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat Sep 27 00:48:44 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 270047
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    847 PM EDT Fri Sep 26 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST & PORTIONS OF THE WESTERN CAROLINAS INTO SOUTHERN
    VIRGINIA...

    ...01Z Update...

    Few changes needed once again to both risk areas in portions of the
    Southwest and Southeast. In the Southwest, while convective
    coverage and intensity remains robust, overall trends are for
    weakening and diminishing of the storms across the area, as much of
    the instability feeding the storms is diurnally driven, so with
    sunset occurring soon, that should cut off the primary energy
    source of the storms. Thus, expect continued weakening and
    diminishing of the storms. Nonetheless, as they remain strong,
    opted to leave the risk areas largely the same and to cover the
    outside potential of new development, especially near the Mexican
    border.

    For the Southeast, the heavy rainfall event highlighted by the ERO
    is just getting started as the low-level jet increases in intensity
    and convective coverage continues to increase. Thus, needed changes
    were very minimal, and were mostly cutting out a small portion of
    the Marginal over northwestern Georgia which is behind much of the
    convection, and adding a little on the north side of both the
    Slight and Marginal in Virginia to acknowledge the most recent
    guidance changes suggesting some of the rain may be able to make it
    that far north into southern Virginia before weakening below an
    intensity of heavy rain needed to produce flash flooding.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southwest...
    Numerous showers and thunderstorms are expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico, which should occur primarily during the
    afternoon and evening hours. An upper low should slow to a crawl
    across southeast California. Precipitable water values should
    remain as high as 1.25-1.5" in spots. ML CAPE values of 2000-3000
    J/kg are possible as available moisture interacts with the cold
    pool aloft. A Slight Risk was maintained across parts of Arizona
    and New Mexico, but it could be higher end Slight Risk. Hourly rain
    amounts to 2" with local totals to 4" are possible where cells
    merge and/or train.


    ...Southeast...
    A boundary will remain in place as a cold low forms near the base
    of an upper level trough, a feature that lingers for a while near
    the Southern Appalachians. Farther inland across the Piedmont, some
    degree of upslope flow should bring some of the higher moisture
    back in from the southeast. Moisture and instability lifting ahead
    of the closing system will support periods of showers and storms.
    Precipitable water values of up to 2" with MU CAPE of 1000+ J/kg
    across the Piedmont and 2000-3000 J/kg in coastal areas are
    expected, which could yield hourly rain amounts to 2.5" and local
    totals to 4". As the 00z HREF and 18z REFS had their strongest
    signal for 3"+ and 5"+ across far southwest VA and the western
    Carolinas, a Slight Risk was added in this update, which was
    coordinated with the local offices. For the time being, a Slight
    Risk was left out across the coastal plain of the Carolinas as
    recent dryness could make a higher incidence of flash flooding
    harder to come by, which was coordinated with the coastal Carolina
    offices.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST AND MID ATLANTIC TO SOUTHEAST...

    20z Update: The Slight risk was maintained over the Mid Atlantic
    with this update. The higher confidence for potential flash
    flooding appears to be over portions of central to southeast VA.
    This is in the vicinity of the stationary front where lower level
    convergence should be maximized. Instability will drop off with
    northern extent, however we should have enough instability along
    and just north of the front to support an axis of low topped
    convection. This activity will likely be warm rain dominant, and
    thus efficient at producing heavy rainfall rates. The exact axis
    remains a bit uncertain, with model solutions varying from near
    the NC/VA border on the southern side, to DC on the northern
    extent. At the moment the best clustering is around Richmond, but
    there is some opportunity for that to shift a bit north or south.
    Where this axis does set up, localized rainfall over 4" appears
    likely. The Slight risk was expanded a bit northward over central
    and eastern VA to account for this risk.

    Confidence is lower on the Slight risk farther south over NC and
    SC. Certainly plenty of moisture in place, but the coverage and
    organization of convection is less clear. Also a possibility that
    the cells that do form tend to move along at a fast enough clip to
    limit the flash flood coverage. The best chance of some training
    could be along the coastal corridor where convergence and
    instability may be a bit stronger. Overall the flash flood risk
    over these areas may end up staying more isolated in nature...but
    the potential for greater coverage is still there, and so we will
    maintain the recently introduced Slight risk area.

    Over the Southwest a Slight risk area was added to portions of
    southeast CA into southwest AZ. The upper level low will remain
    over these areas on Saturday providing broad ascent for convective
    development. Instability over these areas is forecast to be
    greater Saturday than Friday, and PWs will remain well above late
    September averages. Thus would expect to see greater convective
    coverage than today, with heavy rainfall rates likely. The presence
    of the upper low should support slow cell motions and the
    potential for periodic cell mergers.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    An upper low remains fixed across the Lower Colorado River while
    Gulf Moisture streams into the TX Big Bend and New Mexico, moving
    up the Rio Grande. Precipitable water values of 1.25-1.5" are
    forecast, which when combined with 1000+ J/kg of ML CAPE could
    yield hourly amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" where cells
    train and/or merge. Believe the risk level from continuity (Slight)
    conveys the risk appropriately at this time for portions of far
    west TX and NM. Closer to the upper level center across the
    Southwest, slow-moving convection is possible under the cold pool
    aloft, with ML CAPE of 1000-2000 J/kg of instability and
    precipitable water values in the Lower Desert of 1-1.25" expected.
    Based on the decline of the 1000-500 hPa thickness across UT
    towards 5670 meters, limited the northern extent of the Marginal
    Risk to southern UT which is about the northern extent of the 0.75" precipitable water value.


    ...Carolinas/Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    Divergence aloft around the eastern periphery of a cold low near
    the Southern Appalachians and what is now a tropical disturbance
    moving through the Bahamas as a possible tropical cyclone on
    Saturday team up to maintain precipitable water values of up to
    2.25" across the coastal plain, which should also see the greatest
    instability, 1000-2000 J/kg. The Piedmont should see times when the
    MU CAPE rises above 500 J/kg. This is a PRE-like set up for the
    region, so the heavy rainfall potential has a higher upside than
    usual. There has been some convergence in the model guidance QPF-
    wise, and both the 00z HREF and 18z REFS had a cohesive and
    agreeable enough heavy rain threat of 3"+ for a new Slight Risk
    area from roughly Richmond VA south on both sides of the fall line
    into eastern SC. Hourly rain amounts to 3" and local totals to 6"
    are possible, which is potentially problematic anywhere within the
    Slight Risk area. A higher risk level can't be ruled out in future
    updates.

    Roth



    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS AND NEW MEXICO...

    20z Update: We did opt to remove the small Slight risk along the
    SC/NC coast with this update. Most guidance suggests the heaviest
    rainfall this period will remain offshore, with greater impacts
    onshore beginning on day 4 (Monday into Tuesday). There is
    certainly some potential for locally heavy rain along coastal
    areas, but at the moment the risk appears localized in nature.
    Thus a Marginal risk should be enough to cover this threat for
    now and we will continue to monitor trends.

    Little to no change was needed over the Southwest with this
    update. Portions of NM into far west TX still look on track for an
    isolated to scattered flash flood risk as mid/upper level
    troughing moves eastward.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    The combination of an upper low moving to near the Four Corners, a
    kicker upper level trough moving into CA, and moisture feed from
    the Gulf into NM persist into Sunday. Precipitable water values
    remain above 1" locally in the Desert Southwest and 1-1.25" in the
    Southern High Plains. Pockets of 1000+ J/kg of ML/MU CAPE are
    forecast to develop and/or persist. A Slight Risk still appears
    reasonable across portions of far west TX and NM, with a broader
    Marginal Risk surrounding that. The guidance appears to be trending
    somewhat drier across the Great Basin, so limited the northern
    extent of the Marginal Risk area when compared to continuity.


    Florida northward into the Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    A system now considered a tropical disturbance over Hispaniola
    should lie somewhere north of the Bahamas and east of Florida as a
    possible tropical or hybrid cyclone on Sunday. The upper level
    environment doesn't look kind for whatever emerges, and there are
    two scenarios -- a more convective system that remains offshore
    during the medium range period or a more sheared system that
    attempts to occlude when it approaches landfall early next week.
    The guidance is not ideal in differentiating which is correct
    during these scenarios, historically.

    Regardless, moisture will not be a problem regionally --
    precipitable water values locally 2"+. Coastal areas will see
    1000+ J/kg of ML CAPE while 250+ J/kg of MU CAPE invades portions
    of VA. The guidance has slowed down the approach of the tropical
    low since yesterday, but the other players in the flow pattern
    remain -- the upper low near the southern Appalachians/southern
    Cumberland Plateau and the front near the East Coast. A PRE- like
    set up appears to be in the cards, with moisture streaming into the
    front from the south. The best signal for heavy rainfall on Sunday
    into early Monday appears to be in the vicinity of Myrtle Beach,
    and considering previous days of rain, thought a new Slight Risk in
    that area would be prudent. In theory, hourly rain amounts to 3"
    should be possible, which would be most problematic should
    thunderstorms merge or train.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7AvIKvJLJIZP2LOUmURtuqfCv9A4DPmXZkyHDxnXJZ8q= jMPQgzk5FcDXWngtus1cdblu2L8Pzfrg18yGgoFrLMsuiUU$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7AvIKvJLJIZP2LOUmURtuqfCv9A4DPmXZkyHDxnXJZ8q= jMPQgzk5FcDXWngtus1cdblu2L8Pzfrg18yGgoFr9lKrDr4$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7AvIKvJLJIZP2LOUmURtuqfCv9A4DPmXZkyHDxnXJZ8q= jMPQgzk5FcDXWngtus1cdblu2L8Pzfrg18yGgoFrIWzM6iQ$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 270831
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    431 AM EDT Sat Sep 27 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST AND MID-ATLANTIC...

    Southwest/Southern Rockies/High Plains

    A closed upper low over the Southwest will generate scattered=20
    thunderstorm activity across the region and into parts of the=20
    Southern High Plains/Rockies beginning this afternoon. Anomalous=20
    moisture (1in+ PWAT/2-3 StD) within a bouyant environment 1000+=20
    MUCAPE should yield modest rain rates of over an inch/hr,=20
    especially over favorable upslope terrain. Burn Scars and slot=20
    canyons will be among the most susceptible to flash flooding.

    Mid-Atlantic/Southeast

    An upper trough will continue supplying ample moisture (1.5-2in+=20
    PWAT) and sufficient instability (500 J/Kg+) to the Mid-
    Atlantic/Southeast Coastline today. Storms should develop within
    the warm sector of a stationary front draped across the Southern
    Appalachians and Mid-Atlantic Coast. The heaviest rainfall (1-2
    in/hr rates) should focus around the aforementioned front where=20
    favorable right entrance region dynamics will likely develop and=20
    prolong storms during peak heating hours.


    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    FAR WEST TEXAS, NEW MEXICO AND SOUTHWESTERN COLORADO...

    Southwest/Four Corners/Southern High Plains/Rockies

    The upper low in the Southwest is expected to open as it lifts=20
    into the Rockies on Sunday. The threat for excessive rainfall thus=20
    expands a bit around the trough as the fetch of moisture from the=20
    previous day rotates around the low and into parts of the Great=20
    Basin and Four Corners. Some elevated instability 500 J/Kg+ MUCAPE=20
    could generate 0.5-1.5 in/hr rates, especially over parts of New=20
    Mexico, where a slight risk is in effect. Antecedent rainfall from=20
    Saturday should lower FFGs, making soils more vulnerable to flash=20
    flooding. Slot canyons, dry washes and upslope areas will likely be
    the most susceptible to runoff.

    Southeast

    Guidance continues to trend farther away from the Southeast Coast
    with the axis of substantial QPF associated with a tropical=20
    cyclone moving through the Bahamas at the beginning of the day 2=20
    period (Sunday morning). Given the uncertainty of the system's=20
    track, it's difficult to say with any confidence if/where the most=20
    impactful rainfall will occur, thus a broad marginal is in place=20
    from the Outer Banks down to Miami for now.


    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AND MID-ATLANTIC...

    Southeast/Mid-Atlantic

    Tropical moisture arrives along the Southeast/Mid-Atlantic Coast=20
    on Monday ahead of the associated cyclone, which is currently=20
    forecast to be east of Georgia by Tuesday morning. Current=20
    deterministic guidance has between 2-4 inches of rainfall occurring
    along the Carolina Coast with isolated higher amounts. Models are=20
    trending away from the coast with the cyclone's track, which is=20
    reflected in a decreasing QPF trend with this cycle as well.

    Northern California/Southwest Oregon

    A deep East Pacific trough will bring broad diffluent flow aloft=20
    over the Northwest Coast beginning Monday morning. Scattered=20
    showers and thunderstorms may develop along the leading edge of a=20
    surface front, where the presence of weak instability (350 J/Kg
    MUCAPE) and modest moisture (~1 in. PWAT) could produce localized=20
    flash flooding along the northern California/southwest Oregon
    Coasts and inland into the Southern Cascades and northern Sierra.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9AScklAg2iERZHfLXW1ILyO2KW8JRkmC_4fDKOUUKDXR= 5EhVqu0on3ilRiGJ0dnOyGTY9MrIvhovEj_B2RuxeedEUFM$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9AScklAg2iERZHfLXW1ILyO2KW8JRkmC_4fDKOUUKDXR= 5EhVqu0on3ilRiGJ0dnOyGTY9MrIvhovEj_B2RuxGOP8I0w$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9AScklAg2iERZHfLXW1ILyO2KW8JRkmC_4fDKOUUKDXR= 5EhVqu0on3ilRiGJ0dnOyGTY9MrIvhovEj_B2RuxwewnExA$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 271549
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1149 AM EDT Sat Sep 27 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST AND MID-ATLANTIC...

    ...Desert Southwest, Four Corners, and Southern Rockies...
    An anomalous upper low (700-500mb heights falling beneath the 10th
    percentile from the CFSR climatology) will slowly fill today as it
    pivots slowly over the low deserts of CA/AZ. Downstream of this=20
    feature, confluent low and mid level flow will push northward out=20
    of the Baja region of Mexico, leading to a surge of PWs reaching as
    high as 1.25 inches in southern CA/AZ, and as high as 0.75 inches=20
    into UT, around the 90th percentile for the date according to the=20
    SPC sounding climatology. Farther east, and somewhat displaced from
    the upper low, a secondary surge in moisture will lift out of the=20
    Rio Grande Valley, surging PWs to around the 90th percentile as=20
    well into southern NM. This moisture will overlap with increasing=20 instability (MUCAPE 500-1000 J/kg) to result in widespread showers=20
    and thunderstorms today, first beneath the upper low through late=20
    morning, and then expanding across a much larger region during peak
    heating this aftn/eve.

    In general, convection that develops today will move steadily
    north/northwest in the vicinity of the upper low, with 0-6km mean
    winds progged to be 10-15kts. This suggests that storms should be
    generally progressive outside of terrain influences during
    development, but aligned propagation vectors in the cyclonic regime
    will allow for repeating rounds of cells in some areas. With rain=20
    rates progged by both the HREF neighborhood probabilities and the=20
    UA HRRR-forced WRF to potentially reach 0.5-1.0"/hr, this could
    result in stripes of 1 to as much as 3 inches of rainfall, leading
    to scattered instances of flash flooding.=20

    The inherited risk areas were still well supported by the latest
    guidance suite, so only minor adjustments were made to the previous
    outlook.


    ...Mid-Atlantic States and Coastal Southeast...
    A mid-level longwave trough anchored just inland from the=20
    Southeast Coast and aligned into the Ohio Valley will maintain=20
    intensity today, shedding vorticity lobes and accompanying weak=20
    impulses northeast through the region. At the surface, a wavy front
    will meander in the vicinity, with multiple low-pressures rippling
    along it in response to the mid-level shortwaves. The entire area=20
    will embedded within favorable thermodynamics for convection (PWS=20
    1.5-2.0 inches, locally above the 97th percentile according to=20
    NAEFS, overlapped with MUCAPE around 750 J/kg), with freezing=20
    levels of 13,000-14,000 ft supporting efficient warm rain processes
    this aftn.

    It is likely that thunderstorms will become widespread, especially
    during the peak diurnal cycle, and the HREF neighborhood
    probabilities for 2"/hr reach as high as 30-40%. While in general
    FFG exceedance probabilities are modest at 10-20%, there are
    pockets of much higher probabilities (up to 40%) across the
    Tidewater region of VA where a wave of low pressure and enhanced
    bulk shear will help organize thunderstorms a bit more
    significantly (and some of this is already ongoing, please see WPC
    Metwatch #1145 for more information). Here, FFG is also=20
    compromised below most adjacent areas, and the CSU First Guess=20
    Field suggests a higher- end SLGT risk today. So while in general=20
    flash flood instances should be pretty widely scattered, some=20
    locally more numerous impacts are possible in southeast VA through=20
    this evening.


    Weiss

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    FAR WEST TEXAS, NEW MEXICO AND SOUTHWESTERN COLORADO...

    Southwest/Four Corners/Southern High Plains/Rockies

    The upper low in the Southwest is expected to open as it lifts
    into the Rockies on Sunday. The threat for excessive rainfall thus
    expands a bit around the trough as the fetch of moisture from the
    previous day rotates around the low and into parts of the Great
    Basin and Four Corners. Some elevated instability 500 J/Kg+ MUCAPE
    could generate 0.5-1.5 in/hr rates, especially over parts of New
    Mexico, where a slight risk is in effect. Antecedent rainfall from
    Saturday should lower FFGs, making soils more vulnerable to flash
    flooding. Slot canyons, dry washes and upslope areas will likely be
    the most susceptible to runoff.

    Southeast

    Guidance continues to trend farther away from the Southeast Coast
    with the axis of substantial QPF associated with a tropical
    cyclone moving through the Bahamas at the beginning of the day 2
    period (Sunday morning). Given the uncertainty of the system's
    track, it's difficult to say with any confidence if/where the most
    impactful rainfall will occur, thus a broad marginal is in place
    from the Outer Banks down to Miami for now.


    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AND MID-ATLANTIC...

    Southeast/Mid-Atlantic

    Tropical moisture arrives along the Southeast/Mid-Atlantic Coast
    on Monday ahead of the associated cyclone, which is currently
    forecast to be east of Georgia by Tuesday morning. Current
    deterministic guidance has between 2-4 inches of rainfall occurring
    along the Carolina Coast with isolated higher amounts. Models are
    trending away from the coast with the cyclone's track, which is
    reflected in a decreasing QPF trend with this cycle as well.

    Northern California/Southwest Oregon

    A deep East Pacific trough will bring broad diffluent flow aloft
    over the Northwest Coast beginning Monday morning. Scattered
    showers and thunderstorms may develop along the leading edge of a
    surface front, where the presence of weak instability (350 J/Kg
    MUCAPE) and modest moisture (~1 in. PWAT) could produce localized
    flash flooding along the northern California/southwest Oregon
    Coasts and inland into the Southern Cascades and northern Sierra.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7GPR1s8hplDuXbIQfWREJlwUHl8acGKQqzJZ0H5Gxvn1= d2mRI00UW5yDCVVoW-9NADub3B_Lb1T17sFZmXmGdWcuS-w$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7GPR1s8hplDuXbIQfWREJlwUHl8acGKQqzJZ0H5Gxvn1= d2mRI00UW5yDCVVoW-9NADub3B_Lb1T17sFZmXmGpt7A6d8$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7GPR1s8hplDuXbIQfWREJlwUHl8acGKQqzJZ0H5Gxvn1= d2mRI00UW5yDCVVoW-9NADub3B_Lb1T17sFZmXmGExbtgHo$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 271924
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    324 PM EDT Sat Sep 27 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST AND MID-ATLANTIC...

    ...Desert Southwest, Four Corners, and Southern Rockies...
    An anomalous upper low (700-500mb heights falling beneath the 10th
    percentile from the CFSR climatology) will slowly fill today as it
    pivots slowly over the low deserts of CA/AZ. Downstream of this
    feature, confluent low and mid level flow will push northward out
    of the Baja region of Mexico, leading to a surge of PWs reaching as
    high as 1.25 inches in southern CA/AZ, and as high as 0.75 inches
    into UT, around the 90th percentile for the date according to the
    SPC sounding climatology. Farther east, and somewhat displaced from
    the upper low, a secondary surge in moisture will lift out of the
    Rio Grande Valley, surging PWs to around the 90th percentile as
    well into southern NM. This moisture will overlap with increasing
    instability (MUCAPE 500-1000 J/kg) to result in widespread showers
    and thunderstorms today, first beneath the upper low through late
    morning, and then expanding across a much larger region during peak
    heating this aftn/eve.

    In general, convection that develops today will move steadily
    north/northwest in the vicinity of the upper low, with 0-6km mean
    winds progged to be 10-15kts. This suggests that storms should be
    generally progressive outside of terrain influences during
    development, but aligned propagation vectors in the cyclonic regime
    will allow for repeating rounds of cells in some areas. With rain
    rates progged by both the HREF neighborhood probabilities and the
    UA HRRR-forced WRF to potentially reach 0.5-1.0"/hr, this could
    result in stripes of 1 to as much as 3 inches of rainfall, leading
    to scattered instances of flash flooding.

    The inherited risk areas were still well supported by the latest
    guidance suite, so only minor adjustments were made to the previous
    outlook.


    ...Mid-Atlantic States and Coastal Southeast...
    A mid-level longwave trough anchored just inland from the
    Southeast Coast and aligned into the Ohio Valley will maintain
    intensity today, shedding vorticity lobes and accompanying weak
    impulses northeast through the region. At the surface, a wavy front
    will meander in the vicinity, with multiple low-pressures rippling
    along it in response to the mid-level shortwaves. The entire area
    will embedded within favorable thermodynamics for convection (PWS
    1.5-2.0 inches, locally above the 97th percentile according to
    NAEFS, overlapped with MUCAPE around 750 J/kg), with freezing
    levels of 13,000-14,000 ft supporting efficient warm rain processes
    this aftn.

    It is likely that thunderstorms will become widespread, especially
    during the peak diurnal cycle, and the HREF neighborhood
    probabilities for 2"/hr reach as high as 30-40%. While in general
    FFG exceedance probabilities are modest at 10-20%, there are
    pockets of much higher probabilities (up to 40%) across the
    Tidewater region of VA where a wave of low pressure and enhanced
    bulk shear will help organize thunderstorms a bit more
    significantly (and some of this is already ongoing, please see WPC
    Metwatch #1145 for more information). Here, FFG is also
    compromised below most adjacent areas, and the CSU First Guess
    Field suggests a higher- end SLGT risk today. So while in general
    flash flood instances should be pretty widely scattered, some
    locally more numerous impacts are possible in southeast VA through
    this evening.


    Weiss

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    FAR WEST TEXAS AND NEW MEXICO...

    ...Great Basin through the Southern Rockies...
    The closed low over the Low Deserts on D1 will gradually open and
    fill during Sunday while meandering slowly northeast such that the
    primary trough axis is positioned over the Four Corners by 12Z
    Monday. Despite this weakening, pronounced height falls and
    periodic PVA from weak embedded impulses will maintain broad ascent
    from the Great Basin through the Southern Rockies. At the same
    time, downstream southerly flow ahead of the trough axis will
    continue to manifest as a surge of elevated PWs, with widespread PW
    anomalies from the NAEFS reaching the 97th to 99th percentiles.

    This broad southerly flow combined with the lowering heights aloft
    will also produce elevated MUCAPE of 500-750 J/kg across most of
    this area, with locally enhanced instability above 1000 J/kg over
    NM. This setup will support scattered to widespread convection as
    suggested by available CAMs simulated reflectivity, with rain rates
    potentially reaching 1"/hr at times. Mean 0-6km winds Sunday should
    again be steady out of the south at 10-15 kts, although aligned
    propagation vectors could result in some repeating/training,
    especially across New Mexico. The inherited risk areas were
    adjusted for new guidance, but changes were primarily cosmetic.


    ...Southeast Coast...
    Concern on Sunday turns towards Tropical Depression Nine and its
    evolution as it starts to lift slowly northward from the Bahamas
    while strengthening. While there continues to be quite a bit of
    model uncertainty, the general model trends have been for a slower
    progression of this system, with very dry air likely positioned
    just to its west as reflected by 750-500mb RH fields.=20

    This suggests that precipitation may be a bit slower to move=20
    onshore from the FL Peninsula into the Carolinas, but as Nine=20
    deepens and the subsequent 850mb winds to the north intensify, the=20 accompanying strengthening cyclonic flow will transport impressive=20
    tropical moisture westward and onshore, with PWs likely reaching=20
    above 2" from Cape Fear southward through the Space Coast. As
    tropical rain showers move onshore, they will be extremely
    efficient, with rain rates likely reaching 2-3"/hr. These showers
    will repeatedly generate offshore and then train onshore, so right
    along the immediate coast where sufficient instability and
    moistening can occur, total rainfall could exceed 3", especially
    across Florida, as reflected by HREF probabilities exceeding 40%.
    Of course, any additional trends west or slower in the track of
    Nine could enhance this rainfall, and locally higher totals are
    expected.

    The inherited MRGL risk was trimmed closer to the coast, especially
    across the Carolinas, with this update, with additional, but=20
    minimal cosmetic adjustments over the Florida Peninsula also made
    with this update.


    Weiss

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE COASTAL
    PLAIN FROM NORTH CAROLINA THROUGH THE CENTRAL FLORIDA PENINSULA...

    ...Southeast and Mid-Atlantic...
    All attention will be on Tropical Depression Nine, which is
    forecast by NHC to be a strong Tropical Storm or Cat 1 Hurricane on
    Monday as it lifts slowly northward from the Bahamas. While
    guidance has been slowly converging on a solution that brings the
    storm to a stall east of the GA/SC coast by the end of D3, there is
    still considerable spread in the ensembles. Staying close to the
    NHC track brings heavy rainfall D3 from the Space Coast of Florida
    northward into Southeast North Carolina. The exact track and
    intensity of Nine will determine where the greatest moisture
    convergence will occur to create the heaviest rainfall amounts, but
    anywhere along and north of the track will likely receive training
    tropical showers with 2-3"/hr rain rates. The heaviest rain still
    appears to be confined to the immediate coast due to dry air to the
    west, but as the column slowly saturates in response to persistent
    and increasing moist advection on strengthening onshore 850mb flow,
    heavy rain will eventually spread inland, especially into SC and
    NC. While the inherited SLGT risk was trimmed to the south a bit
    over NC and expanded along the eastern coast of the FL Peninsula
    with this update, in general, changes were minimal due to
    continuing track uncertainty.


    ...Northern California/Southwest Oregon...
    An impressive trough will push eastward across the Pacific Monday,
    reaching the coast and angling onshore by 12Z Tuesday. This will
    drive a frontal system onshore, and the resulting low-level
    convergence overlapped by a modestly coupled jet structure will
    provide plentiful ascent for heavy rainfall along the coast of
    northern CA/southern OR D3. Moisture transport will become
    impressive ahead of the front as reflected by high probabilities
    (70-80%) for IVT exceeding 500 kg/m/s from both the ECENS and GEFS
    ensembles, pushing PWs to above 1 inch on increasing southerly
    850mb inflow. Where this moisture overlaps with sufficient
    instability (progs suggest at least 250 J/kg MUCAPE) it will result
    in periods of moderate to heavy rainfall with rates of
    0.25-0.5"/hr which may be sufficient for at least localized impacts
    in vulnerable terrain, especially where training or enhanced
    convergence along terrain features can produce more than 1 inch of
    rainfall.


    Weiss


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5SAbkh4zNICpaHd6TpGKcYsey254oPT-WO4_kxPGpkCc= nxSOYBx9Nzlz29keLykPRIfXX_2W9snq7GcHwtsWFyCYFIc$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5SAbkh4zNICpaHd6TpGKcYsey254oPT-WO4_kxPGpkCc= nxSOYBx9Nzlz29keLykPRIfXX_2W9snq7GcHwtsWjZnSZyM$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5SAbkh4zNICpaHd6TpGKcYsey254oPT-WO4_kxPGpkCc= nxSOYBx9Nzlz29keLykPRIfXX_2W9snq7GcHwtsW1R4SeSw$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Sep 28 00:57:52 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 280057
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    857 PM EDT Sat Sep 27 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST...

    ...Southwest...
    A Slight risk was maintained across portions of southeast CA into
    western AZ. Isolated to scattered instances of flash flooding
    continue this evening. Still generally expect to see the coverage
    and intensity of convection decrease overnight, although with
    lingering instability and the mid level low overhead we could see
    at least some localized areas of heavier convection continue.

    The Slight risk was removed over NM with this update. Still expect
    to see some convection overnight, and localized instances of flash
    flooding are still possible. However, activity has generally=20
    underperformed so far today, and with instability lower here=20
    compared to farther west, generally think the flash flood risk is=20
    isolated enough to warrant just the Marginal risk.

    ...East Coast...
    A Marginal risk was maintained in the vicinity of the Delmarva
    where low topped convection will support efficient warm rain
    processes. Overall not expecting much in the way of a flood=20
    threat, but heavy rates could result in a localized risk.

    Slow moving convection near the mid/upper vort energy will
    continue to support an isolated flash flood risk over portions of=20
    southwest VA and central NC. Overall the expectation is for this=20
    activity to decrease in coverage/intensity going forward...but=20
    models have not had a great handle on this convection and thus=20
    another instance or two of flash flooding can not be ruled out.

    Increasing easterly flow well north of Tropical Depression Nine=20
    may help locally enhance convergence along the east coast of FL=20
    tonight into Sunday morning. Low confidence on these details, but=20
    if heavier convection is able to develop then a localized urban=20
    flash flood risk is a possibility.

    Chenard


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    FAR WEST TEXAS AND NEW MEXICO...

    ...Great Basin through the Southern Rockies...
    The closed low over the Low Deserts on D1 will gradually open and
    fill during Sunday while meandering slowly northeast such that the
    primary trough axis is positioned over the Four Corners by 12Z
    Monday. Despite this weakening, pronounced height falls and
    periodic PVA from weak embedded impulses will maintain broad ascent
    from the Great Basin through the Southern Rockies. At the same
    time, downstream southerly flow ahead of the trough axis will
    continue to manifest as a surge of elevated PWs, with widespread PW
    anomalies from the NAEFS reaching the 97th to 99th percentiles.

    This broad southerly flow combined with the lowering heights aloft
    will also produce elevated MUCAPE of 500-750 J/kg across most of
    this area, with locally enhanced instability above 1000 J/kg over
    NM. This setup will support scattered to widespread convection as
    suggested by available CAMs simulated reflectivity, with rain rates
    potentially reaching 1"/hr at times. Mean 0-6km winds Sunday should
    again be steady out of the south at 10-15 kts, although aligned
    propagation vectors could result in some repeating/training,
    especially across New Mexico. The inherited risk areas were
    adjusted for new guidance, but changes were primarily cosmetic.


    ...Southeast Coast...
    Concern on Sunday turns towards Tropical Depression Nine and its
    evolution as it starts to lift slowly northward from the Bahamas
    while strengthening. While there continues to be quite a bit of
    model uncertainty, the general model trends have been for a slower
    progression of this system, with very dry air likely positioned
    just to its west as reflected by 750-500mb RH fields.

    This suggests that precipitation may be a bit slower to move
    onshore from the FL Peninsula into the Carolinas, but as Nine
    deepens and the subsequent 850mb winds to the north intensify, the
    accompanying strengthening cyclonic flow will transport impressive
    tropical moisture westward and onshore, with PWs likely reaching
    above 2" from Cape Fear southward through the Space Coast. As
    tropical rain showers move onshore, they will be extremely
    efficient, with rain rates likely reaching 2-3"/hr. These showers
    will repeatedly generate offshore and then train onshore, so right
    along the immediate coast where sufficient instability and
    moistening can occur, total rainfall could exceed 3", especially
    across Florida, as reflected by HREF probabilities exceeding 40%.
    Of course, any additional trends west or slower in the track of
    Nine could enhance this rainfall, and locally higher totals are
    expected.

    The inherited MRGL risk was trimmed closer to the coast, especially
    across the Carolinas, with this update, with additional, but
    minimal cosmetic adjustments over the Florida Peninsula also made
    with this update.


    Weiss

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE COASTAL
    PLAIN FROM NORTH CAROLINA THROUGH THE CENTRAL FLORIDA PENINSULA...

    ...Southeast and Mid-Atlantic...
    All attention will be on Tropical Depression Nine, which is
    forecast by NHC to be a strong Tropical Storm or Cat 1 Hurricane on
    Monday as it lifts slowly northward from the Bahamas. While
    guidance has been slowly converging on a solution that brings the
    storm to a stall east of the GA/SC coast by the end of D3, there is
    still considerable spread in the ensembles. Staying close to the
    NHC track brings heavy rainfall D3 from the Space Coast of Florida
    northward into Southeast North Carolina. The exact track and
    intensity of Nine will determine where the greatest moisture
    convergence will occur to create the heaviest rainfall amounts, but
    anywhere along and north of the track will likely receive training
    tropical showers with 2-3"/hr rain rates. The heaviest rain still
    appears to be confined to the immediate coast due to dry air to the
    west, but as the column slowly saturates in response to persistent
    and increasing moist advection on strengthening onshore 850mb flow,
    heavy rain will eventually spread inland, especially into SC and
    NC. While the inherited SLGT risk was trimmed to the south a bit
    over NC and expanded along the eastern coast of the FL Peninsula
    with this update, in general, changes were minimal due to
    continuing track uncertainty.


    ...Northern California/Southwest Oregon...
    An impressive trough will push eastward across the Pacific Monday,
    reaching the coast and angling onshore by 12Z Tuesday. This will
    drive a frontal system onshore, and the resulting low-level
    convergence overlapped by a modestly coupled jet structure will
    provide plentiful ascent for heavy rainfall along the coast of
    northern CA/southern OR D3. Moisture transport will become
    impressive ahead of the front as reflected by high probabilities
    (70-80%) for IVT exceeding 500 kg/m/s from both the ECENS and GEFS
    ensembles, pushing PWs to above 1 inch on increasing southerly
    850mb inflow. Where this moisture overlaps with sufficient
    instability (progs suggest at least 250 J/kg MUCAPE) it will result
    in periods of moderate to heavy rainfall with rates of
    0.25-0.5"/hr which may be sufficient for at least localized impacts
    in vulnerable terrain, especially where training or enhanced
    convergence along terrain features can produce more than 1 inch of
    rainfall.


    Weiss


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-6rocvidYNaM1uOSopYxalkmeDx6R8ZniWv4HMxaBGi0= UHiWneK-G6emfOSJa5NE-UMoQlkYTc4XHkMuVF1yUL4CsZQ$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-6rocvidYNaM1uOSopYxalkmeDx6R8ZniWv4HMxaBGi0= UHiWneK-G6emfOSJa5NE-UMoQlkYTc4XHkMuVF1yoj88jXE$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-6rocvidYNaM1uOSopYxalkmeDx6R8ZniWv4HMxaBGi0= UHiWneK-G6emfOSJa5NE-UMoQlkYTc4XHkMuVF1yu09dmxA$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Sep 28 08:29:48 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 280829
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    429 AM EDT Sun Sep 28 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE'S A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS MUCH OF NEW
    MEXICO AND PORTIONS OF FAR WESTERN TEXAS/SOUTHERN COLORADO...

    ...Four Corners/Southwest...
    An upper trough centered over the Southwest will continue=20
    directing mid-level vortices northward through the Four Corners=20
    region today. Moisture from Tropical Cyclone Narda in the East=20
    Pacific will continue surging north into the Four Corners, where=20
    scattered showers and thunderstorms are likely to proliferate throughout
    the day. PWATs between 1-1.5 inches within the right entrance=20
    region of the upper jet and modest instability around 500-1000+=20
    J/Kg (MLCAPE) could yield rain rates between 0.5-1 in./hr.,=20
    especially where the slight risk is currently drawn. Burn scars,=20
    scars slot canyons and upslope areas within the risk areas are=20
    especially vulnerable to flash flooding.=20

    HREF's neighborhood exceedance probabilities of 2 in. in 24 hours=20
    are between 25-50% while EAS probabilities of exceeding 0.5 in.=20
    hover around 20-40% within the depicted slight risk area.


    ...Southeast...
    An upper trough will pivot eastward over the Southeast while=20
    moisture from T.C. Nine continues surging northward toward the=20
    Southeast Coast. Current guidance keeps the axis of heaviest QPF=20
    offshore, but enough moisture may propagate far enough north and=20
    west to interact with a surface front draped along the coast and=20
    produce localized excessive rainfall. HREF EAS exceedance=20
    probabilities of 1 inch in 24 hours are between 5-15% along much=20
    of the Carolina Coast today, which supports the marginal risk area
    depicted.

    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE'S A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    CAROLINA COAST...

    ...Southeast...
    Guidance continue to depict T.C. Nine propagating north toward the
    Southeast Coast on Monday, while a surface front draped along the=20
    coast acts as the focus for heavy rainfall. QPF has trended=20
    downward given slowing trends in the track of T.C. Nine on Monday.
    The GFS suite in particular diverges most from the Canadian and=20
    Euro suites when depicting the system's slower forward motion.=20
    Despite this, enough moisture should work its way into the coast
    and interact with the surface front to generate scattered thunderstorms. There'll be enough moisture (1.5-2.5in PWATs) and instability=20
    (1000+ J/KG MUCAPE) present to support rainfall rates in excess of
    1 in./hr..

    ...Northern California/Great Basin/Southern Cascades...
    An upper low centered over the East Pacific will send mid-level=20
    vortices into the West Coast on Monday. Pacific moisture may=20
    collide with the remnant tropical moisture from Narda to produce=20
    heavy rainfall from northern California into the Great Basin.=20
    Synoptic forcing provided by a strong surface cold front should=20
    focus PWATs in the range of 0.75-1.25 in. to produce quarter inch=20
    rain rates along the immediate coast. More robust instability over=20
    the Great Basin should yield higher rain rates between 0.5-1=20
    in./hr. in some areas. Upslope enhancement may generate higher=20
    totals in parts of the terrain.

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE'S A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    CAROLINA COAST...

    ...Southeast...
    The inherited marginal and slight risk areas along the Southeast=20
    Coast were downsized based on trends in the guidance suggesting=20
    T.C. Nine's hard turn out to sea on Tuesday. Despite the resulting
    smaller QPF footprint than previous cycles, the flash flood risk=20
    remains. Instability will be negligible (less than 500 J/Kg=20
    MUCAPE), which supports the possibility that the flood threat will be
    due to runoff over saturated soils from Sunday and Monday's=20
    rainfall. Exceedance probabilities of over 2 inches is over 10% in
    the 00z ECENS/CMCE, while below 10% in the GEFS along the=20
    immediate Carolina Coast.

    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9CYiVEneZMixDw3UL5rD9-gc3wknJ8S7ajYNrYVy8laI= -OdCwgYjk8PgU-OpCcCOUI1bgfGEhDQ4uNQSes0gJ8-bKFE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9CYiVEneZMixDw3UL5rD9-gc3wknJ8S7ajYNrYVy8laI= -OdCwgYjk8PgU-OpCcCOUI1bgfGEhDQ4uNQSes0gDqUrKE0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9CYiVEneZMixDw3UL5rD9-gc3wknJ8S7ajYNrYVy8laI= -OdCwgYjk8PgU-OpCcCOUI1bgfGEhDQ4uNQSes0g4as4coA$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Sep 28 15:57:05 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 281556
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1156 AM EDT Sun Sep 28 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE'S A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS MUCH OF NEW
    MEXICO AND PORTIONS OF FAR WESTERN TEXAS/SOUTHERN COLORADO, AS WELL
    AS, PORTIONS OF NORTHWEST ARIZONA...

    16z update:
    New Mexico/West TX Panhandle: Mid-level sub-tropical moisture=20
    continues to stream northward through the leading height-=20
    falls/outer edge of deep-layer cyclone across Western TX Panhandle=20
    through the Sacramento Mountains and points northward. Reinforcing=20
    surface to boundary layer moisture return through up- slope process
    will maintain 1-1.25" total PWats. Embedded mid-level impulses=20
    through the large base of the cyclone will allow for multiple=20
    rounds across S NM/W TX Panhandle to maintain the Slight Risk.=20

    Southwest (N AZ): Near the northwest edge of the inner core of the
    upper- low in NW AZ, there remains a slightly enhanced signal for=20
    increased rainfall rates/totals per HREF probs and 12z Hi-Res CAMs.
    Enough so to be highlighted with 20-40% of 2"+ through 12z . Given
    slow cell motions and position relative to the deeper cyclone and=20
    fairly saturated soils over the last few days is sufficient to=20
    highlight a small separate Slight Risk area.=20

    Further North (ID/WY): A subtle vorticity center is lifting north=20
    through the northern Great Basin toward the Snake River Plain; Hi-
    Res CAMs indicate slightly better instability from 250-500 J/kg may
    allow for scattered mountain anchored convection through the
    afternoon/evening trending northward toward Tetons and Ranges=20
    across SE ID/far W WY. Enough so, to expand the Marginal Risk=20
    northward to encompass the increase in potential.=20

    Southeast: Forecast remains on track, solid onshore flow and
    enhanced deep layer moisture values over 2-2.25 and some weak
    500-1000 J/kg of CAPE should allow for scattered thunderstorm
    activity capable of locally intense rates. Only minor adjustments
    were made to the Marginal Risk line.=20

    Gallina

    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~~

    ...Four Corners/Southwest...
    An upper trough centered over the Southwest will continue
    directing mid-level vortices northward through the Four Corners
    region today. Moisture from Tropical Cyclone Narda in the East
    Pacific will continue surging north into the Four Corners, where
    scattered showers and thunderstorms are likely to proliferate throughout
    the day. PWATs between 1-1.5 inches within the right entrance
    region of the upper jet and modest instability around 500-1000+
    J/Kg (MLCAPE) could yield rain rates between 0.5-1 in./hr.,
    especially where the slight risk is currently drawn. Burn scars,
    scars slot canyons and upslope areas within the risk areas are
    especially vulnerable to flash flooding.

    HREF's neighborhood exceedance probabilities of 2 in. in 24 hours
    are between 25-50% while EAS probabilities of exceeding 0.5 in.
    hover around 20-40% within the depicted slight risk area.


    ...Southeast...
    An upper trough will pivot eastward over the Southeast while
    moisture from T.C. Nine continues surging northward toward the
    Southeast Coast. Current guidance keeps the axis of heaviest QPF
    offshore, but enough moisture may propagate far enough north and
    west to interact with a surface front draped along the coast and
    produce localized excessive rainfall. HREF EAS exceedance
    probabilities of 1 inch in 24 hours are between 5-15% along much
    of the Carolina Coast today, which supports the marginal risk area
    depicted.

    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE'S A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    CAROLINA COAST...

    ...Southeast...
    Guidance continue to depict T.C. Nine propagating north toward the
    Southeast Coast on Monday, while a surface front draped along the
    coast acts as the focus for heavy rainfall. QPF has trended
    downward given slowing trends in the track of T.C. Nine on Monday.
    The GFS suite in particular diverges most from the Canadian and
    Euro suites when depicting the system's slower forward motion.
    Despite this, enough moisture should work its way into the coast
    and interact with the surface front to generate scattered thunderstorms. There'll be enough moisture (1.5-2.5in PWATs) and instability
    (1000+ J/KG MUCAPE) present to support rainfall rates in excess of
    1 in./hr..

    ...Northern California/Great Basin/Southern Cascades...
    An upper low centered over the East Pacific will send mid-level
    vortices into the West Coast on Monday. Pacific moisture may
    collide with the remnant tropical moisture from Narda to produce
    heavy rainfall from northern California into the Great Basin.
    Synoptic forcing provided by a strong surface cold front should
    focus PWATs in the range of 0.75-1.25 in. to produce quarter inch
    rain rates along the immediate coast. More robust instability over
    the Great Basin should yield higher rain rates between 0.5-1
    in./hr. in some areas. Upslope enhancement may generate higher
    totals in parts of the terrain.

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE'S A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    CAROLINA COAST...

    ...Southeast...
    The inherited marginal and slight risk areas along the Southeast
    Coast were downsized based on trends in the guidance suggesting
    T.C. Nine's hard turn out to sea on Tuesday. Despite the resulting
    smaller QPF footprint than previous cycles, the flash flood risk
    remains. Instability will be negligible (less than 500 J/Kg
    MUCAPE), which supports the possibility that the flood threat will be
    due to runoff over saturated soils from Sunday and Monday's
    rainfall. Exceedance probabilities of over 2 inches is over 10% in
    the 00z ECENS/CMCE, while below 10% in the GEFS along the
    immediate Carolina Coast.

    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6uFAzqYdJ_L88XfT5_yzene3C0vAwFQe-dS9asUoHY2O= tb-02gXBFHsvM_b7AEC68SWxmlR637fniM7cMsFfXBYWidY$=20
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    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6uFAzqYdJ_L88XfT5_yzene3C0vAwFQe-dS9asUoHY2O= tb-02gXBFHsvM_b7AEC68SWxmlR637fniM7cMsFfIs1Rpx0$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Sep 28 19:27:53 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 281927
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    327 PM EDT Sun Sep 28 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS MUCH OF NEW
    MEXICO AND PORTIONS OF FAR WESTERN TEXAS/SOUTHERN COLORADO, AS=20
    WELL AS, PORTIONS OF NORTHWEST ARIZONA...

    16z update:
    New Mexico/West TX Panhandle: Mid-level sub-tropical moisture
    continues to stream northward through the leading height-
    falls/outer edge of deep-layer cyclone across Western TX Panhandle
    through the Sacramento Mountains and points northward. Reinforcing
    surface to boundary layer moisture return through up- slope process
    will maintain 1-1.25" total PWats. Embedded mid-level impulses
    through the large base of the cyclone will allow for multiple
    rounds across S NM/W TX Panhandle to maintain the Slight Risk.

    Southwest (N AZ): Near the northwest edge of the inner core of the
    upper- low in NW AZ, there remains a slightly enhanced signal for
    increased rainfall rates/totals per HREF probs and 12z Hi-Res CAMs.
    Enough so to be highlighted with 20-40% of 2"+ through 12z . Given
    slow cell motions and position relative to the deeper cyclone and
    fairly saturated soils over the last few days is sufficient to
    highlight a small separate Slight Risk area.

    Further North (ID/WY): A subtle vorticity center is lifting north
    through the northern Great Basin toward the Snake River Plain; Hi-
    Res CAMs indicate slightly better instability from 250-500 J/kg may
    allow for scattered mountain anchored convection through the
    afternoon/evening trending northward toward Tetons and Ranges
    across SE ID/far W WY. Enough so, to expand the Marginal Risk
    northward to encompass the increase in potential.

    Southeast: Forecast remains on track, solid onshore flow and
    enhanced deep layer moisture values over 2-2.25 and some weak
    500-1000 J/kg of CAPE should allow for scattered thunderstorm
    activity capable of locally intense rates. Only minor adjustments
    were made to the Marginal Risk line.

    Gallina

    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~~

    ...Four Corners/Southwest...
    An upper trough centered over the Southwest will continue
    directing mid-level vortices northward through the Four Corners
    region today. Moisture from Tropical Cyclone Narda in the East
    Pacific will continue surging north into the Four Corners, where
    scattered showers and thunderstorms are likely to proliferate throughout
    the day. PWATs between 1-1.5 inches within the right entrance
    region of the upper jet and modest instability around 500-1000+
    J/Kg (MLCAPE) could yield rain rates between 0.5-1 in./hr.,
    especially where the slight risk is currently drawn. Burn scars,
    scars slot canyons and upslope areas within the risk areas are
    especially vulnerable to flash flooding.

    HREF's neighborhood exceedance probabilities of 2 in. in 24 hours
    are between 25-50% while EAS probabilities of exceeding 0.5 in.
    hover around 20-40% within the depicted slight risk area.


    ...Southeast...
    An upper trough will pivot eastward over the Southeast while
    moisture from T.C. Nine continues surging northward toward the
    Southeast Coast. Current guidance keeps the axis of heaviest QPF
    offshore, but enough moisture may propagate far enough north and
    west to interact with a surface front draped along the coast and
    produce localized excessive rainfall. HREF EAS exceedance
    probabilities of 1 inch in 24 hours are between 5-15% along much
    of the Carolina Coast today, which supports the marginal risk area
    depicted.

    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE IMMEDIATE=20
    CAROLINA COASTLINE...

    21z update:

    ...Central New Mexico...
    Upper-level trough across the Southwest continues to march east-=20
    northeast, filling fairly rapidly as it reaches the Four Corners in
    the early forecast period. This has diminished overall wind field=20
    and pushed the deeper warm conveyor/moisture plume into the Plains.
    However, lingering sufficient moisture (.75"-1"), modest=20
    divergence aloft at least initially,clearing for solid insolation=20
    and solid lapse rates (500 J/kg) aloft will allow for potential for
    stronger thunderstorms along the Sacramento Range. While the=20
    overall intensity and potential for higher rates is reducing=20
    relative to prior days, there is sufficient rainfall rate/total=20
    signals with 12z HREF probability of 50% of 2"+ and even a small=20
    15% or 3" totals across the Sacramento Range and ridge lines east=20
    of the Rio Grande Valley. As such, will include a small Marginal=20
    Risk area across the ridge of south-central to central New Mexico.

    ...Southeast...
    Strong easterly onshore flow will continue and in proximity to the
    coastal front, weak elevated showers and embedded convective=20
    elements are expected along/downstream across the western Piedmont=20
    into the foothills of the southern Appalachian Range, combined with
    upslope enhancement localized 1-2" totals are possible and have=20
    expanded the Marginal Risk slightly westward into the eastern=20
    slopes of the Appalachians.

    However, the trends for T.S. Imelda remain slow with a sharp=20
    eastward turn, further shifting the QPF gradient southeastward and
    offshore relative to prior cycles. However, strong confluent flow=20
    in proximity to the coastal front and Gulf Stream may allow for=20
    scattered thunderstorms to remain possible very close to the=20
    beaches of southeast North Carolina and the South Carolina coast.=20
    Higher probabilities suggest strongest rates/totals will remain=20
    offshore. While there was some solid consideration for removing the
    Slight Risk from this update; collaboration with the local=20
    forecast offices and a few remaining solutions that bring the=20
    surface rooted frontal convection further north to the coast have=20
    maintained a narrow Slight Risk mainly for the coastal cities of=20
    Northeast SC/Southeast NC.=20

    ...Northern California/Great Basin/Idaho,W Montana Rockies...
    The sharp, elongated meridional trough axis has trended a bit
    faster in the northern portion to allow for a slightly more evolved
    wave along the frontal zone reaching far NW California Coast,
    increasing duration of moderate onshore rainfall allowing for a
    slight northward expansion of the Marginal Risk across SW OR.
    Additionally, the upstream strong shortwave originating from
    Kamchatka, rapidly advances and deepens the upstream wave and
    further narrows the spacing between it and the leading wave. This
    provides increased downstream divergence across the Great Basin
    into the Idaho/Montana Rockies, while also strengthening the cross
    Sierra Nevada flow to allow for a favorable back-building regime
    across western Nevada (just east of the natural rain shadow of the
    Sierra Nevada Range). Potential repeating convective elements=20
    across N NV, SE OR and SW ID show an uptick in rainfall totals=20
    with even some HREF probabilities of 1"/hr toward late evening,=20
    early overnight period. Instability is a bit better along the
    upwind edge reaching near 1000 J/kg across the Great Basin enough=20
    that 2"/12hr probabilities are nearing 50% in central NV. At this=20
    time, confidence is increasing, but not enough to delineate any=20
    Slight Risk area at this time.=20

    Gallina


    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~

    ...Southeast...
    Guidance continue to depict T.C. Nine propagating north toward the
    Southeast Coast on Monday, while a surface front draped along the
    coast acts as the focus for heavy rainfall. QPF has trended
    downward given slowing trends in the track of T.C. Nine on Monday.
    The GFS suite in particular diverges most from the Canadian and
    Euro suites when depicting the system's slower forward motion.
    Despite this, enough moisture should work its way into the coast
    and interact with the surface front to generate scattered thunderstorms. There'll be enough moisture (1.5-2.5in PWATs) and instability
    (1000+ J/KG MUCAPE) present to support rainfall rates in excess of
    1 in./hr..

    ...Northern California/Great Basin/Southern Cascades...
    An upper low centered over the East Pacific will send mid-level
    vortices into the West Coast on Monday. Pacific moisture may
    collide with the remnant tropical moisture from Narda to produce
    heavy rainfall from northern California into the Great Basin.
    Synoptic forcing provided by a strong surface cold front should
    focus PWATs in the range of 0.75-1.25 in. to produce quarter inch
    rain rates along the immediate coast. More robust instability over
    the Great Basin should yield higher rain rates between 0.5-1
    in./hr. in some areas. Upslope enhancement may generate higher
    totals in parts of the terrain.

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE GRAND
    STRAND AND SOUTHEAST NORTH CAROLINA...

    21z update:
    ...Southeast...
    As noted above in Day 2, the trends for Day 3 QPF are even further
    offshore as the sharp eastward turn of T.S. Imelda is expected. The
    coastal front and general confluent flow along the Gulf Stream
    north and northwest of the developing system will keep some risk of thunderstorm activity in the vicinity of the coastal cites. Much
    like Day 2, there was a strong consideration for full removal of
    the Slight Risk, however, in coordination with the local forecast
    offices felt removal may be premature, with some scattered
    thunderstorms in the area with potential for training/back-
    building off the Gulf Stream instability gradient and now lies=20
    along the urban centers of the Grand Strand through Wilmington, NC.

    ...Intermountain West...
    At the start of the Day 3 period (30.12z), the end of the Hi-Res
    CAM window, most show some organized showers and embedded
    convective activity along and east of unseasonably strong Pacific
    cold front. Initial meridional mid-level trough will be weakening,
    but upstream stronger trough will be sharpening the flow and
    maintaining favorable divergent flow aloft to provide larger scale
    ascent. Highly anomalous moisture with 2.5-4 standard anomaly
    values in the .75"+ range remain confluent on 15-25kts of=20
    850-700mb southwesterly flow. The remaining Hi-Res CAMs (Nam-Nest=20
    and GEM Regional), along with global guidance (GFS/ECMWF) suggest=20
    some weak remaining instability/weak lapse rates to support some=20
    continued convective activity through the early morning. Some=20
    insolation could help recharge the upper reaches of the Snake River
    Basin and combined with solid upslope flow may reinvigorate=20
    convective activity across the terrain of SE ID into W WY.=20
    Scattered spots of 1-2" are possible. This atypical moisture regime
    and solid dynamic forcing suggest introduction (supported by=20
    continuation from Day 2 period) of a Marginal Risk across the=20
    northern Great Basin into the Snake River Basin for Day 3.

    Gallina

    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~
    ...Southeast...
    The inherited marginal and slight risk areas along the Southeast
    Coast were downsized based on trends in the guidance suggesting
    T.C. Nine's hard turn out to sea on Tuesday. Despite the resulting
    smaller QPF footprint than previous cycles, the flash flood risk
    remains. Instability will be negligible (less than 500 J/Kg
    MUCAPE), which supports the possibility that the flood threat will be
    due to runoff over saturated soils from Sunday and Monday's
    rainfall. Exceedance probabilities of over 2 inches is over 10% in
    the 00z ECENS/CMCE, while below 10% in the GEFS along the
    immediate Carolina Coast.

    Kebede


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    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7Gi7bJL_28qHTZbLJ7t8gEZfIhBvOnWS1dGIwrpEhaWf= bh98BRF8eUlsoYd3fODOPIj2o0eXdDbahEmRZQlfzQtim78$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7Gi7bJL_28qHTZbLJ7t8gEZfIhBvOnWS1dGIwrpEhaWf= bh98BRF8eUlsoYd3fODOPIj2o0eXdDbahEmRZQlfpRL4bNk$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 290035
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    835 PM EDT Sun Sep 28 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS=20
    OF THE SOUTHWEST AND COASTAL SOUTHEAST...

    ...Southwest...
    We will maintain a Marginal risk area over NM into far west TX=20
    with this update. A few more hours of locally intense convection=20
    can be expected, with increasing low level easterly flow helping=20
    support some continued development through the evening hours. The=20 expectation is that instability will erode overnight resulting in a
    decrease in convective coverage and intensity. Generally think the
    coverage of any additional flash flood risk has decreased enough=20
    to remove the Slight and let the Marginal cover the threat.

    ...Southeast...
    A Marginal risk was maintained from the east coast of FL into
    eastern North Carolina. Across FL, onshore flow north of Imelda is
    helping enhance coastal convergence and resulting in localized
    areas of slow moving convection. This should continue through the
    overnight hours, and isolated rainfall totals over 3" are possible.

    Farther up the coast we have a stationary front just offshore, with
    moisture well north of Imelda interacting with this front. We also
    have the mid level trough and upper jet over the Southeast. As the
    night progresses we will probably see some of this rain offshore=20
    move inland across the Carolinas, with the aforementioned trough=20
    and jet helping support this inland advancement. Most of this=20
    activity will likely be lower rate rainfall given the low level=20 northeasterly flow and lack of instability. However we may be able=20
    to get some higher rates into immediate coastal areas closer to=20
    the stationary front. 18z/12z HREF and REFS runs had the higher 3"=20 probabilities along the SC coast, however more recent HRRR and RRFS
    runs are shifting towards the NC coast. Recent radar trends also=20
    seem to point towards far southeast NC as seeing the best chance of
    some slow moving low topped convection getting onshore, which=20
    could locally drop upwards of 3" of rainfall. Overall the flash=20
    flood threat appears pretty localized along these coastal areas=20
    from FL into NC, but the risk is non-zero and a Marginal risk will=20
    be maintained.

    Chenard

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE IMMEDIATE
    CAROLINA COASTLINE...

    21z update:

    ...Central New Mexico...
    Upper-level trough across the Southwest continues to march east-
    northeast, filling fairly rapidly as it reaches the Four Corners in
    the early forecast period. This has diminished overall wind field
    and pushed the deeper warm conveyor/moisture plume into the Plains.
    However, lingering sufficient moisture (.75"-1"), modest
    divergence aloft at least initially,clearing for solid insolation
    and solid lapse rates (500 J/kg) aloft will allow for potential for
    stronger thunderstorms along the Sacramento Range. While the
    overall intensity and potential for higher rates is reducing
    relative to prior days, there is sufficient rainfall rate/total
    signals with 12z HREF probability of 50% of 2"+ and even a small
    15% or 3" totals across the Sacramento Range and ridge lines east
    of the Rio Grande Valley. As such, will include a small Marginal
    Risk area across the ridge of south-central to central New Mexico.

    ...Southeast...
    Strong easterly onshore flow will continue and in proximity to the
    coastal front, weak elevated showers and embedded convective
    elements are expected along/downstream across the western Piedmont
    into the foothills of the southern Appalachian Range, combined with
    upslope enhancement localized 1-2" totals are possible and have
    expanded the Marginal Risk slightly westward into the eastern
    slopes of the Appalachians.

    However, the trends for T.S. Imelda remain slow with a sharp
    eastward turn, further shifting the QPF gradient southeastward and
    offshore relative to prior cycles. However, strong confluent flow
    in proximity to the coastal front and Gulf Stream may allow for
    scattered thunderstorms to remain possible very close to the
    beaches of southeast North Carolina and the South Carolina coast.
    Higher probabilities suggest strongest rates/totals will remain
    offshore. While there was some solid consideration for removing the
    Slight Risk from this update; collaboration with the local
    forecast offices and a few remaining solutions that bring the
    surface rooted frontal convection further north to the coast have
    maintained a narrow Slight Risk mainly for the coastal cities of
    Northeast SC/Southeast NC.

    ...Northern California/Great Basin/Idaho,W Montana Rockies...
    The sharp, elongated meridional trough axis has trended a bit
    faster in the northern portion to allow for a slightly more evolved
    wave along the frontal zone reaching far NW California Coast,
    increasing duration of moderate onshore rainfall allowing for a
    slight northward expansion of the Marginal Risk across SW OR.
    Additionally, the upstream strong shortwave originating from
    Kamchatka, rapidly advances and deepens the upstream wave and
    further narrows the spacing between it and the leading wave. This
    provides increased downstream divergence across the Great Basin
    into the Idaho/Montana Rockies, while also strengthening the cross
    Sierra Nevada flow to allow for a favorable back-building regime
    across western Nevada (just east of the natural rain shadow of the
    Sierra Nevada Range). Potential repeating convective elements
    across N NV, SE OR and SW ID show an uptick in rainfall totals
    with even some HREF probabilities of 1"/hr toward late evening,
    early overnight period. Instability is a bit better along the
    upwind edge reaching near 1000 J/kg across the Great Basin enough
    that 2"/12hr probabilities are nearing 50% in central NV. At this
    time, confidence is increasing, but not enough to delineate any
    Slight Risk area at this time.

    Gallina


    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~

    ...Southeast...
    Guidance continue to depict T.C. Nine propagating north toward the
    Southeast Coast on Monday, while a surface front draped along the
    coast acts as the focus for heavy rainfall. QPF has trended
    downward given slowing trends in the track of T.C. Nine on Monday.
    The GFS suite in particular diverges most from the Canadian and
    Euro suites when depicting the system's slower forward motion.
    Despite this, enough moisture should work its way into the coast
    and interact with the surface front to generate scattered thunderstorms. There'll be enough moisture (1.5-2.5in PWATs) and instability
    (1000+ J/KG MUCAPE) present to support rainfall rates in excess of
    1 in./hr..

    ...Northern California/Great Basin/Southern Cascades...
    An upper low centered over the East Pacific will send mid-level
    vortices into the West Coast on Monday. Pacific moisture may
    collide with the remnant tropical moisture from Narda to produce
    heavy rainfall from northern California into the Great Basin.
    Synoptic forcing provided by a strong surface cold front should
    focus PWATs in the range of 0.75-1.25 in. to produce quarter inch
    rain rates along the immediate coast. More robust instability over
    the Great Basin should yield higher rain rates between 0.5-1
    in./hr. in some areas. Upslope enhancement may generate higher
    totals in parts of the terrain.

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE GRAND
    STRAND AND SOUTHEAST NORTH CAROLINA...

    21z update:
    ...Southeast...
    As noted above in Day 2, the trends for Day 3 QPF are even further
    offshore as the sharp eastward turn of T.S. Imelda is expected. The
    coastal front and general confluent flow along the Gulf Stream
    north and northwest of the developing system will keep some risk of thunderstorm activity in the vicinity of the coastal cites. Much
    like Day 2, there was a strong consideration for full removal of
    the Slight Risk, however, in coordination with the local forecast
    offices felt removal may be premature, with some scattered
    thunderstorms in the area with potential for training/back-
    building off the Gulf Stream instability gradient and now lies
    along the urban centers of the Grand Strand through Wilmington, NC.

    ...Intermountain West...
    At the start of the Day 3 period (30.12z), the end of the Hi-Res
    CAM window, most show some organized showers and embedded
    convective activity along and east of unseasonably strong Pacific
    cold front. Initial meridional mid-level trough will be weakening,
    but upstream stronger trough will be sharpening the flow and
    maintaining favorable divergent flow aloft to provide larger scale
    ascent. Highly anomalous moisture with 2.5-4 standard anomaly
    values in the .75"+ range remain confluent on 15-25kts of
    850-700mb southwesterly flow. The remaining Hi-Res CAMs (Nam-Nest
    and GEM Regional), along with global guidance (GFS/ECMWF) suggest
    some weak remaining instability/weak lapse rates to support some
    continued convective activity through the early morning. Some
    insolation could help recharge the upper reaches of the Snake River
    Basin and combined with solid upslope flow may reinvigorate
    convective activity across the terrain of SE ID into W WY.
    Scattered spots of 1-2" are possible. This atypical moisture regime
    and solid dynamic forcing suggest introduction (supported by
    continuation from Day 2 period) of a Marginal Risk across the
    northern Great Basin into the Snake River Basin for Day 3.

    Gallina

    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~
    ...Southeast...
    The inherited marginal and slight risk areas along the Southeast
    Coast were downsized based on trends in the guidance suggesting
    T.C. Nine's hard turn out to sea on Tuesday. Despite the resulting
    smaller QPF footprint than previous cycles, the flash flood risk
    remains. Instability will be negligible (less than 500 J/Kg
    MUCAPE), which supports the possibility that the flood threat will be
    due to runoff over saturated soils from Sunday and Monday's
    rainfall. Exceedance probabilities of over 2 inches is over 10% in
    the 00z ECENS/CMCE, while below 10% in the GEFS along the
    immediate Carolina Coast.

    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9yPOzGL9oyHiBEtiIushDRM9R_t6bGNc0FUruPl0c_5X= vkxXC8CV9jQJNW7EiYKk3oUh7c0Zrl_OVAejQjbu7juiK_0$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9yPOzGL9oyHiBEtiIushDRM9R_t6bGNc0FUruPl0c_5X= vkxXC8CV9jQJNW7EiYKk3oUh7c0Zrl_OVAejQjbu5RVs0Eo$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9yPOzGL9oyHiBEtiIushDRM9R_t6bGNc0FUruPl0c_5X= vkxXC8CV9jQJNW7EiYKk3oUh7c0Zrl_OVAejQjbu8X3o1Wg$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Sep 29 08:30:31 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 290830
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    430 AM EDT Mon Sep 29 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, SOUTHWESTERN OREGON, THE GREAT BASIN, SOUTH-
    CENTRAL NEW MEXICO AND THE SOUTHEAST...

    ...Carolinas...
    Moisture from tropical storm Imelda is expected to continue=20
    streaming into the Southeast Coast today. A surface front draped=20
    off the coast should provide forcing for thunderstorm development=20
    beginning this morning. Convective bands may work their way into a=20
    moisture rich environment in the Carolinas, where PWATs will be=20
    between 1.5-2.25in.. MUCAPE between 250-500 J/Kg will spread=20
    inland throughout the day, but the greatest convective potential=20
    will be within the bands that propagate inland through North=20
    Carolina this morning and afternoon. Neighborhood probabilities of=20
    exceeding 2 inches of rainfall in 24 hours are between 15-30% over=20
    parts of western and central North Carolina today.

    Despite the presence of deep tropical moisture, much of the
    convection and heaviest rainfall associated with Imelda should stay
    offshore closer to Imelda and the draped front.

    ...Northern California/Great Basin...
    A deep upper low centered over the Gulf of Alaska will send waves
    of low pressure into the West Coast over the next couple of days.=20
    A strong cold front may bring heavy rainfall to portions of=20
    Northern California up into southern Oregon and the Great Basin=20
    today. A weak instability gradient will develop ahead of the front=20
    this afternoon and during peak heating. The 00z HREF suggest up to=20 0.25in./hr. rates across the coastal ranges, southern Cascades and=20
    northern Sierra, with potential for upslope enhancement across=20
    windward facing slopes.=20

    EAS 24 hour 1 inch exceedance probabilities are over 45% along the
    coast and southern Cascades, while a more modest 5-15% chance=20
    remains over the Great Basin. There's a steep drop off in=20
    probabilities once you get into the 2 inch exceedance range.

    ...South-central New Mexico...
    There continues to be a signal for heavy rainfall over much of the
    Sacramento Mountains, where instability (500-1000 J/Kg MLCAPE)
    could support thunderstorm development and propagation into the
    mountains early this evening. Much of the state has already
    received over a half inch of rainfall in the past 24 hours with
    pockets of 2 inch amounts present including within the Sacramento
    Mountains. This may contribute to susceptibility of soils to runoff
    from additional rain. Burn Scars such as the Ft. Stanton Piles
    prescribed burn area are especially susceptible to flash flooding.


    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GREAT BASIN AND NORTHERN ROCKIES...

    The marginal risk area inherited from the previous cycle was mostly
    maintained with an expansion south into central Utah due to trends
    in the guidance. The cold front responsible for heavy rainfall
    potential in northern California on Monday will propagate through
    the Great Basin and Northern Rockies on Tuesday, focusing
    additional instability and moisture along its convergence zone.
    Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 0.5 inches in 24 hours are=20
    between 5-25% over parts of northeastern Nevada, northern Utah,
    southeastern Idaho and western Wyoming. The progressive nature of
    the front should mitigate flash flooding concerns.

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA...

    A shortwave propagating through the southern periphery of the Gulf
    of Alaska low will phase with it and move just off of the British
    Columbia Coast by Wednesday. This new system will send a cold=20
    front into the Pacific Northwest. The proximity of the upper low
    and associated vorticity lobes should destabilize the environment=20
    (100-300 J/Kg MUCAPE) enough to support isolated thunderstorm=20
    activity. Favorable RER dynamics and mid-level moisture=20
    advection should support efficient rain rates especially over the=20
    Olympic Mountains. ECENS 24 hour exceedance probabilities of 2=20
    inches is between 20-40% for much of the area.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!982xJkrpFgC71mUHP6iNhc8sD5AKYCZ6MNJsaAZUo7UN= 3yD6iSxI4FKSW_naOhtnUdVwHmS5qZf5nOsyJuDPIQqfngc$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!982xJkrpFgC71mUHP6iNhc8sD5AKYCZ6MNJsaAZUo7UN= 3yD6iSxI4FKSW_naOhtnUdVwHmS5qZf5nOsyJuDPxFFDGMY$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!982xJkrpFgC71mUHP6iNhc8sD5AKYCZ6MNJsaAZUo7UN= 3yD6iSxI4FKSW_naOhtnUdVwHmS5qZf5nOsyJuDPTRCoIrA$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 291543
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1143 AM EDT Mon Sep 29 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, SOUTHWESTERN OREGON, THE GREAT BASIN, SOUTH-
    CENTRAL NEW MEXICO AND THE SOUTHEAST...

    16z update:
    12z Hi-Res CAMs and HREF probabilities remain on track with only
    small adjustments made for the West and Southeast.

    CIRA LPW suite shows deeper layer (850-500 layers) show lingering=20
    moisture remains across central NM than initially forecast over the
    last few days, with some weak intrusion noted from the south. As
    such, 12z Hi-Res solutions continue to show scattered thunderstorms
    across along the ranges west of the Rio Grande in New Mexico. Given
    recent rains, saturation and scattered flooding instances over the
    past few days; the potential remains for similar if relatively
    slightly reduced to have inclusion into the Marginal Risk already
    in place over the Sacramento Range, further east.=20=20

    Gallina


    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~
    ...Carolinas...
    Moisture from tropical storm Imelda is expected to continue
    streaming into the Southeast Coast today. A surface front draped
    off the coast should provide forcing for thunderstorm development
    beginning this morning. Convective bands may work their way into a
    moisture rich environment in the Carolinas, where PWATs will be
    between 1.5-2.25in.. MUCAPE between 250-500 J/Kg will spread
    inland throughout the day, but the greatest convective potential
    will be within the bands that propagate inland through North
    Carolina this morning and afternoon. Neighborhood probabilities of
    exceeding 2 inches of rainfall in 24 hours are between 15-30% over
    parts of western and central North Carolina today.

    Despite the presence of deep tropical moisture, much of the
    convection and heaviest rainfall associated with Imelda should stay
    offshore closer to Imelda and the draped front.

    ...Northern California/Great Basin...
    A deep upper low centered over the Gulf of Alaska will send waves
    of low pressure into the West Coast over the next couple of days.
    A strong cold front may bring heavy rainfall to portions of
    Northern California up into southern Oregon and the Great Basin
    today. A weak instability gradient will develop ahead of the front
    this afternoon and during peak heating. The 00z HREF suggest up to
    0.25in./hr. rates across the coastal ranges, southern Cascades and
    northern Sierra, with potential for upslope enhancement across
    windward facing slopes.

    EAS 24 hour 1 inch exceedance probabilities are over 45% along the
    coast and southern Cascades, while a more modest 5-15% chance
    remains over the Great Basin. There's a steep drop off in
    probabilities once you get into the 2 inch exceedance range.

    ...South-central New Mexico...
    There continues to be a signal for heavy rainfall over much of the
    Sacramento Mountains, where instability (500-1000 J/Kg MLCAPE)
    could support thunderstorm development and propagation into the
    mountains early this evening. Much of the state has already
    received over a half inch of rainfall in the past 24 hours with
    pockets of 2 inch amounts present including within the Sacramento
    Mountains. This may contribute to susceptibility of soils to runoff
    from additional rain. Burn Scars such as the Ft. Stanton Piles
    prescribed burn area are especially susceptible to flash flooding.


    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GREAT BASIN AND NORTHERN ROCKIES...

    The marginal risk area inherited from the previous cycle was mostly
    maintained with an expansion south into central Utah due to trends
    in the guidance. The cold front responsible for heavy rainfall
    potential in northern California on Monday will propagate through
    the Great Basin and Northern Rockies on Tuesday, focusing
    additional instability and moisture along its convergence zone.
    Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 0.5 inches in 24 hours are
    between 5-25% over parts of northeastern Nevada, northern Utah,
    southeastern Idaho and western Wyoming. The progressive nature of
    the front should mitigate flash flooding concerns.

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA...

    A shortwave propagating through the southern periphery of the Gulf
    of Alaska low will phase with it and move just off of the British
    Columbia Coast by Wednesday. This new system will send a cold
    front into the Pacific Northwest. The proximity of the upper low
    and associated vorticity lobes should destabilize the environment
    (100-300 J/Kg MUCAPE) enough to support isolated thunderstorm
    activity. Favorable RER dynamics and mid-level moisture
    advection should support efficient rain rates especially over the
    Olympic Mountains. ECENS 24 hour exceedance probabilities of 2
    inches is between 20-40% for much of the area.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7R3QU7EDUpQtdR0ldkFCz08OwHtNfe08opkv3pj545bJ= y25nrhkJzxbavbWWvUtmkntXjSeKlNuKw3oXu1mzmzcbNhA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7R3QU7EDUpQtdR0ldkFCz08OwHtNfe08opkv3pj545bJ= y25nrhkJzxbavbWWvUtmkntXjSeKlNuKw3oXu1mzZTHKTXc$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7R3QU7EDUpQtdR0ldkFCz08OwHtNfe08opkv3pj545bJ= y25nrhkJzxbavbWWvUtmkntXjSeKlNuKw3oXu1mzj0AV47M$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Sep 29 19:24:21 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 291924
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    324 PM EDT Mon Sep 29 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, SOUTHWESTERN OREGON, THE GREAT BASIN, SOUTH-
    CENTRAL NEW MEXICO AND THE SOUTHEAST...

    16z update:
    12z Hi-Res CAMs and HREF probabilities remain on track with only
    small adjustments made for the West and Southeast.

    CIRA LPW suite shows deeper layer (850-500 layers) show lingering
    moisture remains across central NM than initially forecast over the
    last few days, with some weak intrusion noted from the south. As
    such, 12z Hi-Res solutions continue to show scattered thunderstorms
    across along the ranges west of the Rio Grande in New Mexico. Given
    recent rains, saturation and scattered flooding instances over the
    past few days; the potential remains for similar if relatively
    slightly reduced to have inclusion into the Marginal Risk already
    in place over the Sacramento Range, further east.

    Gallina


    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~
    ...Carolinas...
    Moisture from tropical storm Imelda is expected to continue
    streaming into the Southeast Coast today. A surface front draped
    off the coast should provide forcing for thunderstorm development
    beginning this morning. Convective bands may work their way into a
    moisture rich environment in the Carolinas, where PWATs will be
    between 1.5-2.25in.. MUCAPE between 250-500 J/Kg will spread
    inland throughout the day, but the greatest convective potential
    will be within the bands that propagate inland through North
    Carolina this morning and afternoon. Neighborhood probabilities of
    exceeding 2 inches of rainfall in 24 hours are between 15-30% over
    parts of western and central North Carolina today.

    Despite the presence of deep tropical moisture, much of the
    convection and heaviest rainfall associated with Imelda should stay
    offshore closer to Imelda and the draped front.

    ...Northern California/Great Basin...
    A deep upper low centered over the Gulf of Alaska will send waves
    of low pressure into the West Coast over the next couple of days.
    A strong cold front may bring heavy rainfall to portions of
    Northern California up into southern Oregon and the Great Basin
    today. A weak instability gradient will develop ahead of the front
    this afternoon and during peak heating. The 00z HREF suggest up to
    0.25in./hr. rates across the coastal ranges, southern Cascades and
    northern Sierra, with potential for upslope enhancement across
    windward facing slopes.

    EAS 24 hour 1 inch exceedance probabilities are over 45% along the
    coast and southern Cascades, while a more modest 5-15% chance
    remains over the Great Basin. There's a steep drop off in
    probabilities once you get into the 2 inch exceedance range.

    ...South-central New Mexico...
    There continues to be a signal for heavy rainfall over much of the
    Sacramento Mountains, where instability (500-1000 J/Kg MLCAPE)
    could support thunderstorm development and propagation into the
    mountains early this evening. Much of the state has already
    received over a half inch of rainfall in the past 24 hours with
    pockets of 2 inch amounts present including within the Sacramento
    Mountains. This may contribute to susceptibility of soils to runoff
    from additional rain. Burn Scars such as the Ft. Stanton Piles
    prescribed burn area are especially susceptible to flash flooding.

    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GREAT BASIN AND NORTHERN ROCKIES & OLYMPIC PENINSULA...

    21z update...

    ...Great Basin...
    12z Hi-Res CAMs/HREF and global guidance continue a slightly more
    progressive solutions with respect to the timing of the cold front
    and therefore the moisture flux convergence through the Great Basin
    resulting in a slight southeastward expansion of the Day 2 Marginal
    Risk across east-central NV and portions of west-central UT. Narrow
    streets of training convection within this anomalous moisture=20
    stream with modest remaining instability may result in spots of=20
    .5-1.25" in 1-3 hours, mainly early in the period. Naturally lower=20
    FFG values would suggest scattered incident or two of localized=20
    flash flooding may result, especially along the upwind edge of the=20
    longer overall Marginal area, where backbuilding may be more=20
    likely.=20

    ...Olympic Peninsula...
    Second and slightly stronger warm conveyor belt increases moisture
    flux out of the northeast Pacific. Deep moisture plume of greater
    than 1" total PWat, but may tick up to 1.25" will be advected on
    mainly southerly flow. Given the oblique nature to the Coastal
    Range, mainly the upslope and highest IVT values (peaking around
    600-700 kg/m/s) will intersect the SW facing topography of the
    Olympic Range. A narrow drying period will likely exist after 00z
    toward 06-09z, before the eastern edge of the strengthening core to
    the closed low approaches toward the end of the forecast period,
    01.12z. HREF probability over 50% of 3"/24hrs exists while a few=20
    Hi- Res guidance members tickle the potential of 5"/24hrs (15-20%=20
    for HREF) across the range. Combined with rain on Day 1, and
    continuing into Day 3, felt it appropriate given totals to have a
    low potential of exceedance worthy of a Marginal Risk, matching up
    with the inherited Day 3 Marginal.=20

    Gallina

    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~
    The marginal risk area inherited from the previous cycle was=20
    mostly maintained with an expansion south into central Utah due to=20
    trends in the guidance. The cold front responsible for heavy=20
    rainfall potential in northern California on Monday will propagate=20
    through the Great Basin and Northern Rockies on Tuesday, focusing=20
    additional instability and moisture along its convergence zone.=20
    Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 0.5 inches in 24 hours are=20
    between 5-25% over parts of northeastern Nevada, northern Utah,=20
    southeastern Idaho and western Wyoming. The progressive nature of=20
    the front should mitigate flash flooding concerns.

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA...

    21z update...
    No change to the placement of the Day 3 Marginal Risk area, though
    12z global guidance is showing a slight uptick in strength of CAA
    aloft allowing for 250-500 J/kg of elevated CAPE. The overall deep
    layer moisture reduces toward .75" but with prolonged southerly
    flow of 30-40kts, IVT values are persistent around 300-450 kg/m/s
    nearly the entire 24hr period. So consistent light to moderate
    upslope rains will have occasional, short duration bursts of=20
    localized convective cores that will add to saturating soils over=20
    the prolonged 3 day event. An additional 2-4" seems likely, but=20
    given scattered convective nature, will be interesting to see any=20
    localized enhanced totals as we move toward the full Hi-Res CAM=20
    window, but end of 12z NAM-Nest and GEM Regional already hint at=20
    slightly higher values...pretty good for an Atmospheric River=20
    season "opener".

    Gallina

    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~
    A shortwave propagating through the southern periphery of the Gulf
    of Alaska low will phase with it and move just off of the British=20
    Columbia Coast by Wednesday. This new system will send a cold front
    into the Pacific Northwest. The proximity of the upper low and=20
    associated vorticity lobes should destabilize the environment=20
    (100-300 J/Kg MUCAPE) enough to support isolated thunderstorm=20
    activity. Favorable RER dynamics and mid- level moisture advection=20
    should support efficient rain rates especially over the Olympic=20
    Mountains. ECENS 24 hour exceedance probabilities of 2 inches is=20
    between 20-40% for much of the area.

    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-sQU-92vlWcGu0LZO5wPQPp-uxEY55CuVqAppuYI7cRW= D5zaHHmTkJNZ5Xp4BL5p7vuQ526ZeMjbLH-7F64V6FXWu-A$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-sQU-92vlWcGu0LZO5wPQPp-uxEY55CuVqAppuYI7cRW= D5zaHHmTkJNZ5Xp4BL5p7vuQ526ZeMjbLH-7F64VS1Kq71o$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-sQU-92vlWcGu0LZO5wPQPp-uxEY55CuVqAppuYI7cRW= D5zaHHmTkJNZ5Xp4BL5p7vuQ526ZeMjbLH-7F64VTiK09is$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Sep 30 00:58:05 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 300057
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    857 PM EDT Mon Sep 29 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, SOUTHWESTERN OREGON, THE GREAT BASIN AND
    COASTAL NORTH CAROLINA...

    ...West...
    Showers and thunderstorms will continue to move across portions of
    NV and ID tonight. Not a lot of instability to work with, and cells
    are quick moving...thus it seems unlikely we will get high enough=20
    rainfall rates to cause too much of a flash flood concern. However=20
    looks like decent coverage of 0.5" to 1" rainfall, with amounts=20
    locally exceeding 1". Thus we will maintain the Marginal risk as a=20
    very localized flash flood risk can not be ruled out. Also will=20
    need to keep an eye on the northern Sacramento Valley north of=20
    Redding. Recent HRRR runs indicate the potential for slow moving=20
    convection where low level flow locally enhances convergence in the
    terrain.

    ...Southeast...
    A Marginal risk was maintained for coastal areas of NC. Moisture=20
    well to the north of Imelda will continue to interact with the=20
    frontal boundary near the coast producing areas of showers and=20
    locally embedded heavier convection. Still looks like most of the=20
    higher rates will remain offshore overnight, but a few heavier=20
    cells may continue to move into the immediate coast. Overall the=20
    flash flood risk is low, but can not rule out a very localized=20
    issue along areas of coastal NC, where upwards of 2-4" of rain has
    fallen over the past 24 hours. Elsewhere over the Southeast the
    higher rates are expected to stay offshore, with just some showery
    conditions continuing which is unlikely to produce flash flooding.

    Chenard


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GREAT BASIN AND NORTHERN ROCKIES & OLYMPIC PENINSULA...

    21z update...

    ...Great Basin...
    12z Hi-Res CAMs/HREF and global guidance continue a slightly more
    progressive solutions with respect to the timing of the cold front
    and therefore the moisture flux convergence through the Great Basin
    resulting in a slight southeastward expansion of the Day 2 Marginal
    Risk across east-central NV and portions of west-central UT. Narrow
    streets of training convection within this anomalous moisture
    stream with modest remaining instability may result in spots of
    .5-1.25" in 1-3 hours, mainly early in the period. Naturally lower
    FFG values would suggest scattered incident or two of localized
    flash flooding may result, especially along the upwind edge of the
    longer overall Marginal area, where backbuilding may be more
    likely.

    ...Olympic Peninsula...
    Second and slightly stronger warm conveyor belt increases moisture
    flux out of the northeast Pacific. Deep moisture plume of greater
    than 1" total PWat, but may tick up to 1.25" will be advected on
    mainly southerly flow. Given the oblique nature to the Coastal
    Range, mainly the upslope and highest IVT values (peaking around
    600-700 kg/m/s) will intersect the SW facing topography of the
    Olympic Range. A narrow drying period will likely exist after 00z
    toward 06-09z, before the eastern edge of the strengthening core to
    the closed low approaches toward the end of the forecast period,
    01.12z. HREF probability over 50% of 3"/24hrs exists while a few
    Hi- Res guidance members tickle the potential of 5"/24hrs (15-20%
    for HREF) across the range. Combined with rain on Day 1, and
    continuing into Day 3, felt it appropriate given totals to have a
    low potential of exceedance worthy of a Marginal Risk, matching up
    with the inherited Day 3 Marginal.

    Gallina

    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~
    The marginal risk area inherited from the previous cycle was
    mostly maintained with an expansion south into central Utah due to
    trends in the guidance. The cold front responsible for heavy
    rainfall potential in northern California on Monday will propagate
    through the Great Basin and Northern Rockies on Tuesday, focusing
    additional instability and moisture along its convergence zone.
    Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 0.5 inches in 24 hours are
    between 5-25% over parts of northeastern Nevada, northern Utah,
    southeastern Idaho and western Wyoming. The progressive nature of
    the front should mitigate flash flooding concerns.

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA...

    21z update...
    No change to the placement of the Day 3 Marginal Risk area, though
    12z global guidance is showing a slight uptick in strength of CAA
    aloft allowing for 250-500 J/kg of elevated CAPE. The overall deep
    layer moisture reduces toward .75" but with prolonged southerly
    flow of 30-40kts, IVT values are persistent around 300-450 kg/m/s
    nearly the entire 24hr period. So consistent light to moderate
    upslope rains will have occasional, short duration bursts of
    localized convective cores that will add to saturating soils over
    the prolonged 3 day event. An additional 2-4" seems likely, but
    given scattered convective nature, will be interesting to see any
    localized enhanced totals as we move toward the full Hi-Res CAM
    window, but end of 12z NAM-Nest and GEM Regional already hint at
    slightly higher values...pretty good for an Atmospheric River
    season "opener".

    Gallina

    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~
    A shortwave propagating through the southern periphery of the Gulf
    of Alaska low will phase with it and move just off of the British
    Columbia Coast by Wednesday. This new system will send a cold front
    into the Pacific Northwest. The proximity of the upper low and
    associated vorticity lobes should destabilize the environment
    (100-300 J/Kg MUCAPE) enough to support isolated thunderstorm
    activity. Favorable RER dynamics and mid- level moisture advection
    should support efficient rain rates especially over the Olympic
    Mountains. ECENS 24 hour exceedance probabilities of 2 inches is
    between 20-40% for much of the area.

    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_eS4alwTQPGfJTYKCe9UlUvtB1Er220Iz0r5jfZhpnJ_= DNStGZglIJc3qHTsDLyjiachyN5L_CJcaWC7rAamV1fwndA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_eS4alwTQPGfJTYKCe9UlUvtB1Er220Iz0r5jfZhpnJ_= DNStGZglIJc3qHTsDLyjiachyN5L_CJcaWC7rAamT4LxE7c$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_eS4alwTQPGfJTYKCe9UlUvtB1Er220Iz0r5jfZhpnJ_= DNStGZglIJc3qHTsDLyjiachyN5L_CJcaWC7rAam8J--Tes$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 300816
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    416 AM EDT Tue Sep 30 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC MOUNTAINS, GREAT BASIN AND NORTHERN ROCKIES...

    ...Great Basin/Northern Rockies...
    A deep upper low off the British Columbia Coast will send=20
    shortwave energy through the Northwest today. A progressive cold=20
    front will focus showers and thunderstorms over portions of the=20
    Great Basin from northeast Nevada to western Montana/northern=20
    Idaho. MUCAPE values between 100-500J/Kg and PWATs of 0.5-1in.=20
    could produce excessive rainfall through this afternoon. This will=20
    be especially true over portions of eastern Nevada into northern=20
    Utah where 24 hour 1 inch exceedance probabilities are between=20
    20-45%.

    ...Olympics...
    The occluded parent low will direct anomalous Pacific moisture at=20
    the Olympic coast beginning this afternoon. Some weak instability=20
    (<200J/Kg MUCAPE) and PWAT's around 1 inch could produce some cells
    capable of generating efficient rain rates, especially within the=20
    windward side of the Olympics. IVT values between 500-700Kg/ms
    support the excessive rainfall threat with isolated instances of
    flash flooding.

    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC MOUNTAINS...

    The excessive rainfall threat over the Olympics bleeds into
    Wednesday as the upper low arrives off the coast of the Pacific
    Northwest. A jetstreak aloft with MUCAPE around 150J/Kg Wednesday
    morning could support some weak convection into the Olympics.
    Unlike on day 1, maximum IVT values will remain offshore with 1=20
    inch PWATs arriving early Thursday morning. Canadian and Euro
    ensemble 2 inch exceedance probabilities are between 40-60% while=20
    the GEFS 1 inch probabilities are around an inch.=20

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Great Basin...
    The upper low is expected to dig into the West Coast on Thursday
    directing diffluent flow and left exit region jet dynamics into the
    Great Basin. Weak instability (100-200J/Kg MUCAPE) along a
    developing cold front could generate thunderstorms capable of=20
    producing some isolated flash flooding, especially over parts of=20
    the Great Basin that received rainfall on Tuesday.

    ...Eastern Florida...
    An upper trough in the Southeast will direct embedded vorticity=20
    into the Florida peninsula on Thursday. An upper ridge centered=20
    over the West Atlantic will advect tropical moisture (PWATs=20
    between 1.5-2in.) into eastern Florida, where it'll interact with=20
    an inverted trough along the coast. Multiple rounds of short fused
    convection will proliferate from the central Gulf across the=20
    Florida Peninsula throughout the day with onshore flow into eastern
    Florida producing isolated instances of flash flooding.=20
    Probabilities of 24 hour qpf exceeding 1 inch is between 15-30%=20
    across eastern Florida. Urban areas are especially susceptible to=20
    flash flooding.

    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-7W00vFpJiSOKioLBq0E7XQg4GyhtrVCynVHNHK-jESU= GZHX7ffdnWMmniIt1HcA6kg8Ll8VnxlpAn-NAy5YOj_uWVw$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-7W00vFpJiSOKioLBq0E7XQg4GyhtrVCynVHNHK-jESU= GZHX7ffdnWMmniIt1HcA6kg8Ll8VnxlpAn-NAy5YLkFqa1Q$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-7W00vFpJiSOKioLBq0E7XQg4GyhtrVCynVHNHK-jESU= GZHX7ffdnWMmniIt1HcA6kg8Ll8VnxlpAn-NAy5YE8W9YH8$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Sep 30 15:52:49 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 301552
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1152 AM EDT Tue Sep 30 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    TREAT BASIN AND NORTHERN ROCKIES...

    ...Great Basin/Northern Rockies...
    ...1600 UTC Update...
    Cut back on the Marginal Risk area a bit, mainly on the western
    side, based on the latest observational trends (radar and
    satellite). Back edge of more concentrated area of heavier rain,=20 colder/higher cloud tops associated with ragged WCB, MUCAPEs of
    250-500 J/Kg, and axis of higher TPWs (>0.75") along and east of=20
    the mid-upper level vort lobe have now shifted east into northeast
    NV. Expect the eastward trend to continue this afternoon, with only
    a low-end marginal (localized) risk of flash flooding. 12Z HREF
    probabilities of >=3D 0.50 in/hr rainfall rates peak between 30-4
    over isolated areas, while maximum probabilities of 1hr QPF
    exceeding current 1hr FFGs are between 15-20 percent.
    3-3.5

    ...Olympics...
    ...1600 UTC Update...
    We have removed the Marginal Risk area across the Olympics. Per=20
    the latest (12Z) guidance, only the NAM CONUS Nest depicts 24hr=20
    totals aoa 3.00". As a result, the 12Z HREF probabilities of 3+
    inches in 24hrs is now only 30-35% over a small area, which is the
    same probability of 0.50 in/hr rates for a brief time this evening
    when the IVTs peak around 600 Kg/m/s.=20

    Hurley

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC MOUNTAINS...

    The excessive rainfall threat over the Olympics bleeds into
    Wednesday as the upper low arrives off the coast of the Pacific
    Northwest. A jetstreak aloft with MUCAPE around 150J/Kg Wednesday
    morning could support some weak convection into the Olympics.
    Unlike on day 1, maximum IVT values will remain offshore with 1
    inch PWATs arriving early Thursday morning. Canadian and Euro
    ensemble 2 inch exceedance probabilities are between 40-60% while
    the GEFS 1 inch probabilities are around an inch.

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Great Basin...
    The upper low is expected to dig into the West Coast on Thursday
    directing diffluent flow and left exit region jet dynamics into the
    Great Basin. Weak instability (100-200J/Kg MUCAPE) along a
    developing cold front could generate thunderstorms capable of
    producing some isolated flash flooding, especially over parts of
    the Great Basin that received rainfall on Tuesday.

    ...Eastern Florida...
    An upper trough in the Southeast will direct embedded vorticity
    into the Florida peninsula on Thursday. An upper ridge centered
    over the West Atlantic will advect tropical moisture (PWATs
    between 1.5-2in.) into eastern Florida, where it'll interact with
    an inverted trough along the coast. Multiple rounds of short fused
    convection will proliferate from the central Gulf across the
    Florida Peninsula throughout the day with onshore flow into eastern
    Florida producing isolated instances of flash flooding.
    Probabilities of 24 hour qpf exceeding 1 inch is between 15-30%
    across eastern Florida. Urban areas are especially susceptible to
    flash flooding.

    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5Fxlxr5W-_Qc-e8pJI8Fn0h_fYySDRGjp110wFDS3cCK= yqJZPiyRvbdP_vgRicht5Ss-sfFX72R3KQxu1KZ2tRqbIKM$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5Fxlxr5W-_Qc-e8pJI8Fn0h_fYySDRGjp110wFDS3cCK= yqJZPiyRvbdP_vgRicht5Ss-sfFX72R3KQxu1KZ2_F9NmIc$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5Fxlxr5W-_Qc-e8pJI8Fn0h_fYySDRGjp110wFDS3cCK= yqJZPiyRvbdP_vgRicht5Ss-sfFX72R3KQxu1KZ24g3kIUM$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 302028
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    428 PM EDT Tue Sep 30 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    TREAT BASIN AND NORTHERN ROCKIES...

    ...Great Basin/Northern Rockies...
    ...1600 UTC Update...
    Cut back on the Marginal Risk area a bit, mainly on the western
    side, based on the latest observational trends (radar and
    satellite). Back edge of more concentrated area of heavier rain,
    colder/higher cloud tops associated with ragged WCB, MUCAPEs of
    250-500 J/Kg, and axis of higher TPWs (>0.75") along and east of
    the mid-upper level vort lobe have now shifted east into northeast
    NV. Expect the eastward trend to continue this afternoon, with only
    a low-end marginal (localized) risk of flash flooding. 12Z HREF
    probabilities of >=3D 0.50 in/hr rainfall rates peak between 30-4
    over isolated areas, while maximum probabilities of 1hr QPF
    exceeding current 1hr FFGs are between 15-20 percent.
    3-3.5

    ...Olympics...
    ...1600 UTC Update...
    We have removed the Marginal Risk area across the Olympics. Per
    the latest (12Z) guidance, only the NAM CONUS Nest depicts 24hr
    totals aoa 3.00". As a result, the 12Z HREF probabilities of 3+
    inches in 24hrs is now only 30-35% over a small area, which is the
    same probability of 0.50 in/hr rates for a brief time this evening
    when the IVTs peak around 600 Kg/m/s.

    Hurley


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC MOUNTAINS AND THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA...

    ...Olympics...

    An anomalous mid-level closed low will be slow to=20
    move off of the coast of the Pacific Northwest on Wednesday into=20
    Thursday. Moisture anomalies along the coast are forecast to=20
    remain neutral to weakly positive but onshore flow will keep the=20
    region unsettled and left-exit region upper level jet induced=20
    divergence may aid in rainfall intensities early on Wednesday. Low=20
    level flow will be oriented from the SSW into the Olympics with a=20
    high likelihood for showers (isolated thunder given weak=20
    instability near the coast) throughout the 24 hour period with=20
    occasional bursts of rain rates in excess of 0.5 in/hr. 12Z HREF=20 probabilities of QPF over the 24 hour period ending Thursday at 12Z
    were 80-90 percent for 3+ inches, and 50-60 percent for 5+ inches.
    Given forecast rainfall of 1 to 3 inches ending Wednesday morning,
    and the additional rainfall on Wednesday into Thursday of 3 to 5=20
    inches locally (with embedded high rates), localized runoff in and=20
    around the Olympics may result.=20

    ...East Coast of Florida...

    With the eastward departure of Imelda and Humberto from the western
    Atlantic, a large surface ridge will build across the eastern U.S.,
    with low level easterly flow setting up perpendicular ot the east
    coast of the Florida Peninsula. 925-850 mb winds are forecast by
    the 12Z GFS to peak in the 20-30 kt range and offshore instability
    of at least 500-1000 J/kg is forecast by the latest model=20
    consensus to set up just offshore and along the coast. Upper level
    support for ascent will be aided by the right-entrance region of a
    70-80 kt ahead of an upper level shortwave tracking east from the=20
    central Gulf Coast.

    While moisture parameters are forecast to be only near average for
    early October, PW values are still forecast to range from 1.5 to=20
    2.0 inches at times with low level convergence helping to focus=20
    small but intense cores of heavy rain with hourly rainfall of 2 to=20
    3 inches expected at times. The flash flood threat is expected to=20
    remain rather localized, but given the presence of the highly=20
    populated eastern Peninsula and potential for localized 4 to 5+=20
    inch totals, a Marginal Risk was introduced for this update.

    Otto


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Great Basin...
    The upper low from Wednesday is expected to dig into the West=20
    Coast on Thursday directing diffluent flow and left exit region jet
    divergence into the Great Basin. Weak instability (less than 250
    J/kg MUCAPE from most models) along a developing cold front could=20
    generate repeating rounds of thunderstorms and short term training=20
    capable of producing some isolated flash flooding. While PWATs are
    forecast to be anomalous for early October (+2 to +3 standardized=20 anomalies), moisture and instability values will be relatively=20
    modest in an absolute sense which may limit rain rates. However,
    local sensitivities, including burn scars, could be at risk of
    impactful rainfall rates.

    ...Eastern Florida...
    As an upper level trough over the Southeast slowly edges eastward
    on Thursday, a similar setup as seen on Wednesday will be in place
    across the east coast of Florida. This includes instability of at
    least 500-1000 J/kg, PWAT values of 1.5 to 2.0+ inches and low
    level onshore flow of 20-30 kt at times. Slow cell motions could
    allow for hourly rainfall of 2 to 3 inches in a couple of
    locations with a focus along coastal/high population density=20
    sections of eastern Florida. While hires model data is limited to
    the 12Z RRFS for the day 3 time frame, the RRFS shows a spot of 6-7
    inches in northern portions of the outlook area, indicative of the
    potential for locally high rainfall totals.

    Otto


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_xXrjf5FD_5yya27yWuF2sKaog7cu_i6pdFFHI89hcs_= BsLMMH4lco5i58j18PS4uShFO7J11I1_PptErJ8sb3UFPaI$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_xXrjf5FD_5yya27yWuF2sKaog7cu_i6pdFFHI89hcs_= BsLMMH4lco5i58j18PS4uShFO7J11I1_PptErJ8sdzmrFlo$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_xXrjf5FD_5yya27yWuF2sKaog7cu_i6pdFFHI89hcs_= BsLMMH4lco5i58j18PS4uShFO7J11I1_PptErJ8sZQGaB4g$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Oct 1 00:30:09 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 010029
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    829 PM EDT Tue Sep 30 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Bann


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC MOUNTAINS AND THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA...

    ...Olympics...

    An anomalous mid-level closed low will be slow to
    move off of the coast of the Pacific Northwest on Wednesday into
    Thursday. Moisture anomalies along the coast are forecast to
    remain neutral to weakly positive but onshore flow will keep the
    region unsettled and left-exit region upper level jet induced
    divergence may aid in rainfall intensities early on Wednesday. Low
    level flow will be oriented from the SSW into the Olympics with a
    high likelihood for showers (isolated thunder given weak
    instability near the coast) throughout the 24 hour period with
    occasional bursts of rain rates in excess of 0.5 in/hr. 12Z HREF
    probabilities of QPF over the 24 hour period ending Thursday at 12Z
    were 80-90 percent for 3+ inches, and 50-60 percent for 5+ inches.
    Given forecast rainfall of 1 to 3 inches ending Wednesday morning,
    and the additional rainfall on Wednesday into Thursday of 3 to 5
    inches locally (with embedded high rates), localized runoff in and
    around the Olympics may result.

    ...East Coast of Florida...

    With the eastward departure of Imelda and Humberto from the western
    Atlantic, a large surface ridge will build across the eastern U.S.,
    with low level easterly flow setting up perpendicular ot the east
    coast of the Florida Peninsula. 925-850 mb winds are forecast by
    the 12Z GFS to peak in the 20-30 kt range and offshore instability
    of at least 500-1000 J/kg is forecast by the latest model
    consensus to set up just offshore and along the coast. Upper level
    support for ascent will be aided by the right-entrance region of a
    70-80 kt ahead of an upper level shortwave tracking east from the
    central Gulf Coast.

    While moisture parameters are forecast to be only near average for
    early October, PW values are still forecast to range from 1.5 to
    2.0 inches at times with low level convergence helping to focus
    small but intense cores of heavy rain with hourly rainfall of 2 to
    3 inches expected at times. The flash flood threat is expected to
    remain rather localized, but given the presence of the highly
    populated eastern Peninsula and potential for localized 4 to 5+
    inch totals, a Marginal Risk was introduced for this update.

    Otto


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Great Basin...
    The upper low from Wednesday is expected to dig into the West
    Coast on Thursday directing diffluent flow and left exit region jet
    divergence into the Great Basin. Weak instability (less than 250
    J/kg MUCAPE from most models) along a developing cold front could
    generate repeating rounds of thunderstorms and short term training
    capable of producing some isolated flash flooding. While PWATs are
    forecast to be anomalous for early October (+2 to +3 standardized
    anomalies), moisture and instability values will be relatively
    modest in an absolute sense which may limit rain rates. However,
    local sensitivities, including burn scars, could be at risk of
    impactful rainfall rates.

    ...Eastern Florida...
    As an upper level trough over the Southeast slowly edges eastward
    on Thursday, a similar setup as seen on Wednesday will be in place
    across the east coast of Florida. This includes instability of at
    least 500-1000 J/kg, PWAT values of 1.5 to 2.0+ inches and low
    level onshore flow of 20-30 kt at times. Slow cell motions could
    allow for hourly rainfall of 2 to 3 inches in a couple of
    locations with a focus along coastal/high population density
    sections of eastern Florida. While hires model data is limited to
    the 12Z RRFS for the day 3 time frame, the RRFS shows a spot of 6-7
    inches in northern portions of the outlook area, indicative of the
    potential for locally high rainfall totals.

    Otto


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!--vzlDqCKAME7aiKq4Jdwed_ujN-XNs14mrnuXUUpEc5= ZUmK_p9kuVQ-1lZS3_VG3iQ8bkt5sWiwLmAc8k1lXf45ZBo$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!--vzlDqCKAME7aiKq4Jdwed_ujN-XNs14mrnuXUUpEc5= ZUmK_p9kuVQ-1lZS3_VG3iQ8bkt5sWiwLmAc8k1lK0gAEaY$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!--vzlDqCKAME7aiKq4Jdwed_ujN-XNs14mrnuXUUpEc5= ZUmK_p9kuVQ-1lZS3_VG3iQ8bkt5sWiwLmAc8k1l9TZNecA$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Oct 1 08:30:39 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 010830
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    430 AM EDT Wed Oct 1 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Olympic Peninsula...
    A deep upper low centered off of the British Columbia Coast will=20
    direct embedded ripples of vorticity into the Pacific Northwest=20
    today. A strong 60-100 kts RER jet with associated 100-200 J/Kg=20
    MUCAPE and 200-400 Kg/ms IVT out of the southwest should be enough
    to generate scattered thunderstorm activity across the region=20
    today. These favorable dynamics paired with PWATs between 0.65-0.90
    should produce efficient rain rates throughout the day, especially
    along the windward side of the Olympics, where upslope enhancement
    may occur.

    ...Eastern Florida...
    A positively tilted trough will swing through the Southeast today.
    CAA over warm Gulf/Atlantic waters should generate convection along
    a surface convergence zone over the Florida Coast today. MUCAPE=20
    between 500-1000 J/Kg within a moist environment (1.75-2.25 in.=20
    PWATs) should produce scattered thunderstorms with efficient rain=20
    rates. Moist easterly flow over the inverted coastal surface trough
    may generate some backbuilding storms this afternoon/evening. HREF
    5" neighborhood exceedance probabilities are between 20-30% across
    the entire risk area, so there's potential for overperformance of
    rainfall. Urban areas are of particular concern to flash flooding.


    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA, THE SIERRA, THE GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN=20
    FLORIDA...

    ...Olympic Mountains...
    The excessive rainfall threat spills over into Thursday across the
    Olympics as the upper low begins to dig down into the West Coast.=20
    100-200 J/Kg MUCAPE and 0.75-1" PWATs should sustain the potential=20
    for excessive rainfall, particularly earlier on in the period=20
    (12-18z) before the trough pushes farther east into the interior
    and high pressure builds over the Olympic Peninsula. CMCE 1"=20
    exceedance probabilities are around 15-35% within the marginal risk
    area.

    ...Great Basin/Sierra...
    Strong diffluence associated with the digging upper trough will=20
    spread throughout the interior West on Thursday. An 80-100 kts RER=20
    jet with a 100 J/Kg MUCAPE should support convection with PWATs=20
    between 0.75-1", which will be 3-4 stndv above average. This will
    provide enough moisture to produce high enough rain rates to=20
    overtake flash flood guidance, which is below 1".=20

    ...Eastern Florida...
    Shortwave vortices within a mean upper trough will propagate south
    through the Florida Peninsula on Thursday. Sufficient instability
    (500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE) and moisture (2"+ PWATs) associated with=20
    Imelda may produce excessive rainfall along the immediate coast
    early on in the day. The latest qpf trend is decreasing, partly
    because the heavy rainfall threat is split between two days (00z
    Wednesday--15z Thursday), but urban areas continue to be
    susceptible to runoff.


    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Eastern Florida... Continued troughing in the Southeast will=20
    promote more unsettled weather across Florida on Friday. Easterly=20
    flow will continue advecting rich tropical moisture (2-2.25" PWATs)
    from Imelda into the Peninsula with plenty of instability=20
    (500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE) to generate scattered thunderstorms. 2"=20
    ensemble exceedance probabilities are between 5-15%, which supports
    the inherited marginal risk area. Again, the greatest threat for=20
    flash flooding is in urbanized areas.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-9Vg9wXg0GFxnT-3E6UqhDAGmivk1Vp-OjBY4_RQCJBk= 3VSq6fkjXgJd0BmHjrXUW2ewaRqpaOWiyPow1W0l_VUE0ao$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-9Vg9wXg0GFxnT-3E6UqhDAGmivk1Vp-OjBY4_RQCJBk= 3VSq6fkjXgJd0BmHjrXUW2ewaRqpaOWiyPow1W0lxiXrC_c$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-9Vg9wXg0GFxnT-3E6UqhDAGmivk1Vp-OjBY4_RQCJBk= 3VSq6fkjXgJd0BmHjrXUW2ewaRqpaOWiyPow1W0lruMQrU0$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 010833
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    433 AM EDT Wed Oct 1 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Olympic Peninsula...
    A deep upper low centered off of the British Columbia Coast will
    direct embedded ripples of vorticity into the Pacific Northwest
    today. A strong 60-100 kts RER jet with associated 100-200 J/Kg
    MUCAPE and 200-400 Kg/ms IVT out of the southwest should be enough
    to generate scattered thunderstorm activity across the region
    today. These favorable dynamics paired with PWATs between 0.65-0.90
    should produce efficient rain rates throughout the day, especially
    along the windward side of the Olympics, where upslope enhancement
    may occur.

    ...Eastern Florida...
    A positively tilted trough will swing through the Southeast today.
    CAA over warm Gulf/Atlantic waters should generate convection along
    a surface convergence zone over the Florida Coast today. MUCAPE
    between 500-1000 J/Kg within a moist environment (1.75-2.25 in.
    PWATs) should produce scattered thunderstorms with efficient rain
    rates. Moist easterly flow over the inverted coastal surface trough
    may generate some backbuilding storms this afternoon/evening. HREF
    5" neighborhood exceedance probabilities are between 20-30% across
    the entire risk area, so there's potential for overperformance of
    rainfall. Urban areas are of particular concern to flash flooding.


    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA, THE SIERRA, THE GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN
    FLORIDA...

    ...Olympic Mountains...
    The excessive rainfall threat spills over into Thursday across the
    Olympics as the upper low begins to dig down into the West Coast.
    100-200 J/Kg MUCAPE and 0.75-1" PWATs should sustain the potential
    for excessive rainfall, particularly earlier on in the period
    (12-18z) before the trough pushes farther east into the interior
    and high pressure builds over the Olympic Peninsula. CMCE 1"
    exceedance probabilities are around 15-35% within the marginal risk
    area.

    ...Great Basin/Sierra...
    Strong diffluence associated with the digging upper trough will
    spread throughout the interior West on Thursday. An 80-100 kts RER
    jet with a 100 J/Kg MUCAPE should support convection with PWATs
    between 0.75-1", which will be 3-4 stndv above average. This will
    provide enough moisture to produce high enough rain rates to
    overtake flash flood guidance, which is below 1".

    ...Eastern Florida...
    Shortwave vortices within a mean upper trough will propagate south
    through the Florida Peninsula on Thursday. Sufficient instability
    (500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE) and moisture (2"+ PWATs) associated with
    Imelda may produce excessive rainfall along the immediate coast
    early on in the day. The latest qpf trend is decreasing, partly
    because the heavy rainfall threat is split between two days (00z
    Wednesday--15z Thursday), but urban areas continue to be
    susceptible to runoff.


    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Eastern Florida...=20
    Continued troughing in the Southeast will promote more unsettled=20
    weather across Florida on Friday. Easterly flow will continue=20
    advecting rich tropical moisture (2-2.25" PWATs) from Imelda into=20
    the Peninsula with plenty of instability (500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE) to=20
    generate scattered thunderstorms. 2" ensemble exceedance=20
    probabilities are between 5-15%, which supports the inherited=20
    marginal risk area. Again, the greatest threat for flash flooding=20
    is in urbanized areas.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4UnSa_wq00OZYj86Y4W7Lf7iHP_LJPflziHRmW0TYTq4= ajC-j_04GbTTCQJOR5oc8Qo_4FU0J3sT8pO1avACpQyCou8$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4UnSa_wq00OZYj86Y4W7Lf7iHP_LJPflziHRmW0TYTq4= ajC-j_04GbTTCQJOR5oc8Qo_4FU0J3sT8pO1avACOGRgcI8$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4UnSa_wq00OZYj86Y4W7Lf7iHP_LJPflziHRmW0TYTq4= ajC-j_04GbTTCQJOR5oc8Qo_4FU0J3sT8pO1avACk2skvVQ$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 011529
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1129 AM EDT Wed Oct 1 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF THE=20=20
    EASTERN FLORIDA PENINSULA...

    16Z Update: After coordination with local Seattle WFO and
    observational/short term trends in guidance, have opted to remove
    the MRGL risk in place across the Olympic's for the period. Locally
    heavy rainfall will be expected with the current pattern, however
    low probs for >2"/6-hrs and generally sub <1"/hr rainfall rates
    expected outside a few elevated convective signals later in the
    period over the highest terrain warrant a non-zero, but sub-MRGL
    risk forecast for flash flood prospects.=20

    Across eastern FL, the threat for locally heavy rainfall continues
    for the afternoon and evening with a favoring setup closer to the
    end of the forecast when surface trough alignment along the eastern
    peninsula generates a stronger low-lvl convergence signature in
    proximity to the trough. HREF blended mean QPF still distributes
    between 1-1.5" in the mean for spots along the eastern coast,
    however HREF neighborhood probs for >5" are between 15-35% along
    the same area of the QPF mean. This is grounds for maintaining a
    forecast of locally enhanced rainfall rates that could overperform
    the mean quite easily if they setup in a given area. For this
    alone, the risk area was relatively maintained with the biggest
    change being the addition of all of the Miami metro included in the
    latest update.=20

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    ...Eastern Florida...

    A positively tilted trough will swing through the Southeast today.
    CAA over warm Gulf/Atlantic waters should generate convection along
    a surface convergence zone over the Florida Coast today. MUCAPE
    between 500-1000 J/Kg within a moist environment (1.75-2.25 in.
    PWATs) should produce scattered thunderstorms with efficient rain
    rates. Moist easterly flow over the inverted coastal surface trough
    may generate some backbuilding storms this afternoon/evening. HREF
    5" neighborhood exceedance probabilities are between 20-30% across
    the entire risk area, so there's potential for overperformance of
    rainfall. Urban areas are of particular concern to flash flooding.

    Kebede


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA, THE SIERRA, THE GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN
    FLORIDA...

    ...Olympic Mountains...
    The excessive rainfall threat spills over into Thursday across the
    Olympics as the upper low begins to dig down into the West Coast.
    100-200 J/Kg MUCAPE and 0.75-1" PWATs should sustain the potential
    for excessive rainfall, particularly earlier on in the period
    (12-18z) before the trough pushes farther east into the interior
    and high pressure builds over the Olympic Peninsula. CMCE 1"
    exceedance probabilities are around 15-35% within the marginal risk
    area.

    ...Great Basin/Sierra...
    Strong diffluence associated with the digging upper trough will
    spread throughout the interior West on Thursday. An 80-100 kts RER
    jet with a 100 J/Kg MUCAPE should support convection with PWATs
    between 0.75-1", which will be 3-4 standard deviations above=20
    average. This will provide enough moisture to produce high enough=20
    rain rates to overtake flash flood guidance, which is below 1".

    ...Eastern Florida...
    Shortwave vortices within a mean upper trough will propagate south
    through the Florida Peninsula on Thursday. Sufficient instability
    (500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE) and moisture (2"+ PWATs) associated with
    Imelda may produce excessive rainfall along the immediate coast
    early on in the day. The latest qpf trend is decreasing, partly
    because the heavy rainfall threat is split between two days (00z
    Wednesday--15z Thursday), but urban areas continue to be
    susceptible to runoff.


    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Eastern Florida...
    Continued troughing in the Southeast will promote more unsettled
    weather across Florida on Friday. Easterly flow will continue
    advecting rich tropical moisture (2-2.25" PWATs) from Imelda into
    the Peninsula with plenty of instability (500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE) to
    generate scattered thunderstorms. 2" ensemble exceedance
    probabilities are between 5-15%, which supports the inherited
    marginal risk area. Again, the greatest threat for flash flooding
    is in urbanized areas.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6avUEPTz7w5KE2suAXqsVP1dVLAbmfdPmxgnZEtLOWFq= zArm3NgCYckK9c96cz_B9_Kd_Zo1KG9KS1hlKIMbFB9gD5g$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6avUEPTz7w5KE2suAXqsVP1dVLAbmfdPmxgnZEtLOWFq= zArm3NgCYckK9c96cz_B9_Kd_Zo1KG9KS1hlKIMby97pyUw$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6avUEPTz7w5KE2suAXqsVP1dVLAbmfdPmxgnZEtLOWFq= zArm3NgCYckK9c96cz_B9_Kd_Zo1KG9KS1hlKIMbgHk9OV4$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Oct 1 19:39:27 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 011939
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    339 PM EDT Wed Oct 1 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF THE
    EASTERN FLORIDA PENINSULA...

    16Z Update: After coordination with local Seattle WFO and
    observational/short term trends in guidance, have opted to remove
    the MRGL risk in place across the Olympic's for the period. Locally
    heavy rainfall will be expected with the current pattern, however
    low probs for >2"/6-hrs and generally sub <1"/hr rainfall rates
    expected outside a few elevated convective signals later in the
    period over the highest terrain warrant a non-zero, but sub-MRGL
    risk forecast for flash flood prospects.

    Across eastern FL, the threat for locally heavy rainfall continues
    for the afternoon and evening with a favoring setup closer to the
    end of the forecast when surface trough alignment along the eastern
    peninsula generates a stronger low-lvl convergence signature in
    proximity to the trough. HREF blended mean QPF still distributes
    between 1-1.5" in the mean for spots along the eastern coast,
    however HREF neighborhood probs for >5" are between 15-35% along
    the same area of the QPF mean. This is grounds for maintaining a
    forecast of locally enhanced rainfall rates that could overperform
    the mean quite easily if they setup in a given area. For this
    alone, the risk area was relatively maintained with the biggest
    change being the addition of all of the Miami metro included in the
    latest update.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    ...Eastern Florida...

    A positively tilted trough will swing through the Southeast today.
    CAA over warm Gulf/Atlantic waters should generate convection along
    a surface convergence zone over the Florida Coast today. MUCAPE
    between 500-1000 J/Kg within a moist environment (1.75-2.25 in.
    PWATs) should produce scattered thunderstorms with efficient rain
    rates. Moist easterly flow over the inverted coastal surface trough
    may generate some backbuilding storms this afternoon/evening. HREF
    5" neighborhood exceedance probabilities are between 20-30% across
    the entire risk area, so there's potential for overperformance of
    rainfall. Urban areas are of particular concern to flash flooding.

    Kebede


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR EASTERN
    FLORIDA, THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA, AND FROM THE SIERRA THROUGH THE
    GREAT BASIN...

    ...Eastern Florida...
    An inverted surface trough lingering near the Atlantic coast of
    Florida will continue to provide a focus for ascent, aided by a
    subtly deepening impulse aloft drifting westward through D2.
    Together, these will result in widespread showers and thunderstorms
    moving steadily westward through the day around the periphery of an
    anomalous high pressure wedge centered near the Mid-Atlantic. With
    PWs likely exceeding 2" overlapped with MUCAPE above 1000 J/kg,
    convection that trains across the area may contain rain rates of
    2-3"/hr (30-40% chance from the HREF). While the greatest potential
    for impactful rain appears to be along the immediate coast due to
    frictional convergence and a longer period of elevated instability,
    with 850mb winds exceeding the mean flow, and Corfidi vectors
    aligned anti-parallel to the mean wind, training cells with heavy
    rain may push well inland during Thursday evening as well. For this
    reason the MRGL risk was expanded slightly westward from previous. Additionally, a small SLGT risk was considered for the Treasure=20
    Coast and Gold Coast of SE Florida where both HREF and REFS=20
    probabilities feature an elevated risk (40-60%) for rainfall=20
    exceeding 5"/24 hrs, but after coordination with WFOs MLB and MFL,
    the MRGL risk was maintained at this time due to recent dryness.


    ...Olympic Mountains...
    A closed mid-level low pivoting just west of Washington State will
    merge with secondary vorticity energy to manifest as an elongated
    closed feature digging into Northern California by Friday morning.
    Downstream of this evolution, S/SW low-to-mid level flow will
    channel moisture onshore into the Olympic Peninsula, with high
    probabilities (>80%) of IVT exceeding 250 kg/m/s continuing the
    first part of D2. Where this moisture effectively intersects the
    higher terrain of the Olympics to force upslope and enhanced
    ascent, primarily within a narrow ribbon of MUCAPE > 250 J/kg, this
    will drive some embedded heavier rain rates locally exceeding
    0.5"/hr. While the resultant flash flood risk appears generally
    isolated, some isolated impacts are possible where heavier showers
    and isolated thunderstorms can repeat across the Olympics, so the
    MRGL risk was maintained.


    ...Great Basin/Sierra...
    Digging mid-level low will amplify and drop into Northern
    California by Friday morning, placing impressive but channeled
    downstream ascent from the Sierra through the Great Basin. This
    will be enhanced by an impressive poleward arcing jet streak
    developing downstream of the primary trough axis, leaving the
    favorable RRQ atop the axis of greatest mid-level lift to produce
    deep layer ascent. At the surface, this evolution will result in a
    wavering stationary front draped from central CA through the Great
    Basin and into the Northern High Plains, leading to additional
    convergence, and this should manifest as a narrow corridor of
    showers and isolated thunderstorms where thermodynamics (PWs above
    0.75 inches and MUCAPE 250-500 J/kg) are supportive. Mean 0-6km
    winds of 30 kts indicate showers will be progressive, but also
    aligned to the front to support at least short duration training.
    This could result in isolated instances of flash flooding, with the
    greatest potential appearing to be in the Sierra where upslope flow
    and regenerating cells supports a higher probability (60-90%) of
    more than 1 inch of rainfall.


    Weiss

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    EASTERN FLORIDA AND THE GREAT BASIN/INTERMOUNTAIN WEST...

    ...Eastern Florida...
    Another day of onshore flow around the periphery of a wedge of high
    pressure to the north will maintain moist convergence across the
    Florida Peninsula. A mid-level trough persisting overhead will help
    enhance instability as well, so Friday will again feature westward
    moving showers and thunderstorms with efficient rainfall rates of
    2-3"/hr supported by impressive thermodynamics (PWs 2-2.25" and
    MUCAPE above 1000 J/kg). With showers and thunderstorms repeatedly
    moving onshore, this training could produce rainfall accumulating
    to 1-3" on Friday, and this is on top of what could be heavy rain
    D1 and D2 as well. The MRGL risk was maintained and cosmetically
    adjusted, with the greatest risk for impacts likely within urban
    areas.


    ...Great Basin into the Northern Rockies...
    An amplifying mid-level trough will swing east across the Great
    Basin Friday, with heights falling below -1 sigma at 500mb by 00Z
    Saturday. A potent shortwave and accompanying vorticity impulse
    swinging through the base of this trough will reach the western
    Four Corners states late D3, and as it sheds northeast within
    downstream confluent flow, provide enhanced ascent through PVA atop
    the accompanying height falls. At the same time, a jet streak
    pivoting around the base of this trough will also amplify, leading
    to pronounced deep layer lift from Nevada into Montana, generally
    just upstream from an elongated frontal structure across the
    Rockies (suggesting at least modest frontogenesis within this
    region as well).

    Within this corridor of enhanced ascent, PWs will be as high as
    0.75" coincident with MUCAPE above 500 J/kg. This will support
    scattered to widespread showers with embedded thunderstorms, and in
    the deeper convection, rain rates could exceed 0.5"/hr. Mean 0-6km
    winds aligned with propagation vectors will support training to
    offset generally fast storm motions, and locally this could result
    in 1-2" of rain with isolated flash flooding. A MRGL risk was added
    after coordination with WFOs BOI/MSO/LKN/TFX.


    Weiss


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!780aRhsm2qrXtyOe_M_L6tkx4ayLzuDjU1WJWOaqE42X= Byl7N1PLv8dIe6Ett4AvagG6rQomd6tbFs_dLhmGxtRjw-c$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!780aRhsm2qrXtyOe_M_L6tkx4ayLzuDjU1WJWOaqE42X= Byl7N1PLv8dIe6Ett4AvagG6rQomd6tbFs_dLhmGdZkgDJE$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!780aRhsm2qrXtyOe_M_L6tkx4ayLzuDjU1WJWOaqE42X= Byl7N1PLv8dIe6Ett4AvagG6rQomd6tbFs_dLhmG07iSnjw$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Oct 2 00:49:08 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 020048
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    848 PM EDT Wed Oct 1 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF THE
    EASTERN FLORIDA PENINSULA...

    Maintained the Marginal Risk area across eastern FL given
    persistent deep-layer easterly flow and the expectation that a
    trough along the eastern peninsula aligns in a way which favors
    better low level convergence along/near the coast later tonight.=20
    Latest HREF blended mean QPF still depicts spotty rainfall amounts=20
    between 1-1.5" in the mean along the eastern coast. HREF neighborhood probabilities for >5" remained in the 15-35 percent range along=20
    the same area of the QPF mean. This is grounds for maintaining a=20
    forecast of locally enhanced rainfall rates which could result in
    localized flooding from the Miami metro northward...similar in
    placement with the previous Marginal Risk area. 00Z radiosondes=20
    and ACARS data showed an overall moistening of the atmosphere given
    the moisture transport tied to flow off the Atlantic which further
    supports the model idea of increasing coverage of showers and=20
    thunderstorms and of an atmosphere that could support local=20
    downpours.

    Bann

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR EASTERN
    FLORIDA, THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA, AND FROM THE SIERRA THROUGH THE
    GREAT BASIN...

    ...Eastern Florida...
    An inverted surface trough lingering near the Atlantic coast of
    Florida will continue to provide a focus for ascent, aided by a
    subtly deepening impulse aloft drifting westward through D2.
    Together, these will result in widespread showers and thunderstorms
    moving steadily westward through the day around the periphery of an
    anomalous high pressure wedge centered near the Mid-Atlantic. With
    PWs likely exceeding 2" overlapped with MUCAPE above 1000 J/kg,
    convection that trains across the area may contain rain rates of
    2-3"/hr (30-40% chance from the HREF). While the greatest potential
    for impactful rain appears to be along the immediate coast due to
    frictional convergence and a longer period of elevated instability,
    with 850mb winds exceeding the mean flow, and Corfidi vectors
    aligned anti-parallel to the mean wind, training cells with heavy
    rain may push well inland during Thursday evening as well. For this
    reason the MRGL risk was expanded slightly westward from previous. Additionally, a small SLGT risk was considered for the Treasure
    Coast and Gold Coast of SE Florida where both HREF and REFS
    probabilities feature an elevated risk (40-60%) for rainfall
    exceeding 5"/24 hrs, but after coordination with WFOs MLB and MFL,
    the MRGL risk was maintained at this time due to recent dryness.


    ...Olympic Mountains...
    A closed mid-level low pivoting just west of Washington State will
    merge with secondary vorticity energy to manifest as an elongated
    closed feature digging into Northern California by Friday morning.
    Downstream of this evolution, S/SW low-to-mid level flow will
    channel moisture onshore into the Olympic Peninsula, with high
    probabilities (>80%) of IVT exceeding 250 kg/m/s continuing the
    first part of D2. Where this moisture effectively intersects the
    higher terrain of the Olympics to force upslope and enhanced
    ascent, primarily within a narrow ribbon of MUCAPE > 250 J/kg, this
    will drive some embedded heavier rain rates locally exceeding
    0.5"/hr. While the resultant flash flood risk appears generally
    isolated, some isolated impacts are possible where heavier showers
    and isolated thunderstorms can repeat across the Olympics, so the
    MRGL risk was maintained.


    ...Great Basin/Sierra...
    Digging mid-level low will amplify and drop into Northern
    California by Friday morning, placing impressive but channeled
    downstream ascent from the Sierra through the Great Basin. This
    will be enhanced by an impressive poleward arcing jet streak
    developing downstream of the primary trough axis, leaving the
    favorable RRQ atop the axis of greatest mid-level lift to produce
    deep layer ascent. At the surface, this evolution will result in a
    wavering stationary front draped from central CA through the Great
    Basin and into the Northern High Plains, leading to additional
    convergence, and this should manifest as a narrow corridor of
    showers and isolated thunderstorms where thermodynamics (PWs above
    0.75 inches and MUCAPE 250-500 J/kg) are supportive. Mean 0-6km
    winds of 30 kts indicate showers will be progressive, but also
    aligned to the front to support at least short duration training.
    This could result in isolated instances of flash flooding, with the
    greatest potential appearing to be in the Sierra where upslope flow
    and regenerating cells supports a higher probability (60-90%) of
    more than 1 inch of rainfall.


    Weiss

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN FLORIDA AND THE GREAT BASIN/INTERMOUNTAIN WEST...

    ...Eastern Florida...
    Another day of onshore flow around the periphery of a wedge of high
    pressure to the north will maintain moist convergence across the
    Florida Peninsula. A mid-level trough persisting overhead will help
    enhance instability as well, so Friday will again feature westward
    moving showers and thunderstorms with efficient rainfall rates of
    2-3"/hr supported by impressive thermodynamics (PWs 2-2.25" and
    MUCAPE above 1000 J/kg). With showers and thunderstorms repeatedly
    moving onshore, this training could produce rainfall accumulating
    to 1-3" on Friday, and this is on top of what could be heavy rain
    D1 and D2 as well. The MRGL risk was maintained and cosmetically
    adjusted, with the greatest risk for impacts likely within urban
    areas.


    ...Great Basin into the Northern Rockies...
    An amplifying mid-level trough will swing east across the Great
    Basin Friday, with heights falling below -1 sigma at 500mb by 00Z
    Saturday. A potent shortwave and accompanying vorticity impulse
    swinging through the base of this trough will reach the western
    Four Corners states late D3, and as it sheds northeast within
    downstream confluent flow, provide enhanced ascent through PVA atop
    the accompanying height falls. At the same time, a jet streak
    pivoting around the base of this trough will also amplify, leading
    to pronounced deep layer lift from Nevada into Montana, generally
    just upstream from an elongated frontal structure across the
    Rockies (suggesting at least modest frontogenesis within this
    region as well).

    Within this corridor of enhanced ascent, PWs will be as high as
    0.75" coincident with MUCAPE above 500 J/kg. This will support
    scattered to widespread showers with embedded thunderstorms, and in
    the deeper convection, rain rates could exceed 0.5"/hr. Mean 0-6km
    winds aligned with propagation vectors will support training to
    offset generally fast storm motions, and locally this could result
    in 1-2" of rain with isolated flash flooding. A MRGL risk was added
    after coordination with WFOs BOI/MSO/LKN/TFX.


    Weiss


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5-1DtE1QDhW5To79d3pWkPa6yeBHXukS-h93drZ4EU-B= wxxjYvAhPsTA3c_xpm-CWEU9FRQLDyUKKnjJNRcO5jOu_ko$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5-1DtE1QDhW5To79d3pWkPa6yeBHXukS-h93drZ4EU-B= wxxjYvAhPsTA3c_xpm-CWEU9FRQLDyUKKnjJNRcO2ykwwoM$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5-1DtE1QDhW5To79d3pWkPa6yeBHXukS-h93drZ4EU-B= wxxjYvAhPsTA3c_xpm-CWEU9FRQLDyUKKnjJNRcOeAUe72c$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 020828
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    428 AM EDT Thu Oct 2 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SIERRA, GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Sierra/Great Basin...
    An upper low will dig into the West Coast while sending streams of
    vorticity into the Sierra Nevada, Great Basin and Northern=20
    Rockies. Diffluence will spread across the aforementioned areas=20
    throughout the day on Friday. At the surface, a low pressure system
    will propagate across the interior West, while anomalous moisture=20
    (3-4 stndv PWATs) streams in behind the preceding cold front.=20
    Scattered to isolated thunderstorms may develop and produce=20
    isolated instances of excessive rainfall and flash flooding.=20

    Upslope enhancement across the Sierra could produce heavier=20
    rainfall totals than what are currently forecast. EAS probabilities
    of 24 hour qpf exceeding 1 inch are over 40% in the Sierra and=20
    between 15-40% in the Great Basin. Therefore, burn scars over=20
    central and southern Idaho are at risk of flash flooding today.

    ...Eastern Florida...
    Moist easterly flow into a surface front oriented north-south will
    produce scattered convection across Florida today. The surface=20
    boundary draped along the eastern coast will focus PWATs of around=20
    2" in that area where MUCAPE between 500-1000 J/Kg will also likely
    produce high rain rates. Neighborhood probabilities of exceeding=20
    5" in 24 hours are between 40-90% from near Miami metro up through=20
    Melbourne and Orlando.


    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK FOR PORTIONS OF THE GREAT BASIN AND
    EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Great Basin...
    The upper trough propagates through the Great Basin and begins=20
    lifting north on Friday. The excessive rainfall threat bleeds into
    Friday from Thursday as thunderstorms weaken and spread from the=20
    Great Basin into the Northern Rockies by Friday afternoon. Instability
    and moisture will be relatively modest (100-200 J/Kg MUCAPE)=20
    (0.5-0.9"). Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 1" are between=20
    10-20% over northern Nevada with 2 day totals potentially eclipsing
    2" in some places.

    ...Eastern Florida...
    Moisture advection into Florida increases on Friday as a mid-level
    circulation embedded within a broader upper ridge continues to
    direct moisture and instability into the state's east coast.=20
    Another inverted surface trough may develop along the state's east
    coast and focus convection along the convergence zone. Ensemble=20
    exceedance probabilities of 2" are between 5-15% along the=20
    immediate coast, while first guess fields support the marginal with
    5% flash flood probabilities.


    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025 - 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK FOR PORTIONS OF SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA AND
    EASTERN FLORIDA INTO FAR SOUTHEASTERN GEORGIA...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...
    Mid-level vorticity swirling over the Central Gulf Coast will
    generate instability and pull an increasing amount of Gulf=20
    moisture into the region on Saturday. Convection should fire along=20
    a coastal convergence zone that develops and diurnal heating should
    enhance afternoon/evening storms along that boundary. PWATs will
    likely be over 2" with MUCAPE between 500-750 J/Kg. Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 2" are between 15-30% for much of southeast=20
    Louisiana.

    ...Eastern Florida/Southeastern Georgia...
    Tropical moisture associated with Imelda will continue flowing into
    Florida due to and upper ridge over the East Coast and embedded
    troughing over Florida and the Gulf. A modest instability plume=20
    should flow up the Florida Peninsula into far southeastern Georgia=20
    where PWAT's of over 2" and an inverted surface trough could
    combine to produce thunderstorms capable of generating 0.75-1"/hr=20
    rain rates. Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 2" are between=20
    5-15% along Florida's east coast into southeastern Georgia.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5QMibcjbv8UIoTFzL7jA06j0OeJ8rgJX3NQrBodnUdto= 0N3yKv--zID7olPZgjbAEjsDg2dbjEODBS5D83_TzDyC4E0$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5QMibcjbv8UIoTFzL7jA06j0OeJ8rgJX3NQrBodnUdto= 0N3yKv--zID7olPZgjbAEjsDg2dbjEODBS5D83_T_tNI8og$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5QMibcjbv8UIoTFzL7jA06j0OeJ8rgJX3NQrBodnUdto= 0N3yKv--zID7olPZgjbAEjsDg2dbjEODBS5D83_TBlxoeD8$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 021544
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1144 AM EDT Thu Oct 2 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SIERRA, GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    16Z Update: The previous forecast has not changed much in the
    overall synoptic and mesoscale expectations over the two risk areas outlined.=20

    Across FL, locally heavy rainfall within the confines of
    a surface trough axis aligned parallel, just inland from the
    coastal plain will be the threat through the period with urban
    flash flooding the most likely case of any potential. Highest 5"
    probs via 12z HREF neighborhood output are still in that 40-90%
    range, however the highest probs are centered between Melbourne to
    West Palm Beach with a centroid near Port St Lucie. This is hi-res
    indications of where they anticipate the strongest low-level
    convergence regime with relevant moisture flux situated just off
    the Atlantic coast at similar latitude to the elevated probs.
    Considering some error in convective placement, it's still
    reasonable to consider areas from Miami up to Daytona within the
    proxy for locally enhanced rainfall rates with hourly rates ~3"/hr
    at peak intensity when you factor PWATs hovering between 1.75-2"=20
    as of the 10/12z RAOB soundings from Cape Canaveral. This signal=20
    in the means and individual deterministic is more than sufficient=20
    for a maintenance of the MRGL risk in place with only a minor=20
    northward expansion in the area to cover for the current radar
    trends.=20

    Across the west, the setup remains consistent among all the CAMs
    and global deterministic with a relative max situated over the
    northern Sierra along and near I-80 where modest instability and
    sufficient large scale ascent should initiate a period of moderate
    to heavy rain for multiple hours that could enhance a localized
    flood prospect. As we move further inland into the Great Basin, the
    setup shifts to more scattered/widespread convective schemes that
    are better suited for those highly localized flash flood concerns
    within topography that historically favors flashier output due to
    the soil composition and prevalence of dry washes and arroyos
    littered over the high desert. This threat expands into the Snake
    River basin of ID and adjacent zones later this evening. Totals
    between 1-2" (Locally higher in the northern Sierra) will be most=20
    common in the MRGL risk in place from the Central Valley of=20
    California up into Sawtooth and Salmon River Ranges of Idaho.=20

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussions..

    ...Sierra/Great Basin...

    An upper low will dig into the West Coast while sending streams of
    vorticity into the Sierra Nevada, Great Basin and Northern=20
    Rockies. Diffluence will spread across the aforementioned areas=20
    throughout the day on Friday. At the surface, a low pressure system
    will propagate across the interior West, while anomalous moisture=20
    (3-4 stndv PWATs) streams in behind the preceding cold front.=20
    Scattered to isolated thunderstorms may develop and produce=20
    isolated instances of excessive rainfall and flash flooding.

    Upslope enhancement across the Sierra could produce heavier
    rainfall totals than what are currently forecast. EAS probabilities
    of 24 hour qpf exceeding 1 inch are over 40% in the Sierra and
    between 15-40% in the Great Basin. Therefore, burn scars over
    central and southern Idaho are at risk of flash flooding today.

    ...Eastern Florida...

    Moist easterly flow into a surface front oriented north-south will
    produce scattered convection across Florida today. The surface
    boundary draped along the eastern coast will focus PWATs of around
    2" in that area where MUCAPE between 500-1000 J/Kg will also likely
    produce high rain rates. Neighborhood probabilities of exceeding
    5" in 24 hours are between 40-90% from near Miami metro up through
    Melbourne and Orlando.

    Kebede


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK FOR PORTIONS OF THE GREAT BASIN AND
    EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Great Basin...
    The upper trough propagates through the Great Basin and begins
    lifting north on Friday. The excessive rainfall threat bleeds into
    Friday from Thursday as thunderstorms weaken and spread from the
    Great Basin into the Northern Rockies by Friday afternoon. Instability
    and moisture will be relatively modest (100-200 J/Kg MUCAPE)
    (0.5-0.9"). Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 1" are between
    10-20% over northern Nevada with 2 day totals potentially eclipsing
    2" in some places.

    ...Eastern Florida...
    Moisture advection into Florida increases on Friday as a mid-level
    circulation embedded within a broader upper ridge continues to
    direct moisture and instability into the state's east coast.
    Another inverted surface trough may develop along the state's east
    coast and focus convection along the convergence zone. Ensemble
    exceedance probabilities of 2" are between 5-15% along the
    immediate coast, while first guess fields support the marginal with
    5% flash flood probabilities.


    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025 - 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK FOR PORTIONS OF SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA AND
    EASTERN FLORIDA INTO FAR SOUTHEASTERN GEORGIA...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...
    Mid-level vorticity swirling over the Central Gulf Coast will
    generate instability and pull an increasing amount of Gulf
    moisture into the region on Saturday. Convection should fire along
    a coastal convergence zone that develops and diurnal heating should
    enhance afternoon/evening storms along that boundary. PWATs will
    likely be over 2" with MUCAPE between 500-750 J/Kg. Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 2" are between 15-30% for much of southeast
    Louisiana.

    ...Eastern Florida/Southeastern Georgia...
    Tropical moisture associated with Imelda will continue flowing into
    Florida due to and upper ridge over the East Coast and embedded
    troughing over Florida and the Gulf. A modest instability plume
    should flow up the Florida Peninsula into far southeastern Georgia
    where PWAT's of over 2" and an inverted surface trough could
    combine to produce thunderstorms capable of generating 0.75-1"/hr
    rain rates. Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 2" are between
    5-15% along Florida's east coast into southeastern Georgia.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-TXaeIF6zJASOo8o2ZPRpSFXhdz9pbtfYb8Itozk9Wpn= YeHxPDMCzMp2yhoxlB8WXE2lf0pHGWzQUj--paKEvEq-Ky4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-TXaeIF6zJASOo8o2ZPRpSFXhdz9pbtfYb8Itozk9Wpn= YeHxPDMCzMp2yhoxlB8WXE2lf0pHGWzQUj--paKEeqNXeZE$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-TXaeIF6zJASOo8o2ZPRpSFXhdz9pbtfYb8Itozk9Wpn= YeHxPDMCzMp2yhoxlB8WXE2lf0pHGWzQUj--paKEnyhorn4$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Oct 2 19:39:54 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 021939
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    339 PM EDT Thu Oct 2 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    THE SIERRA, GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    16Z Update: The previous forecast has not changed much in the
    overall synoptic and mesoscale expectations over the two risk areas
    outlined.

    Across FL, locally heavy rainfall within the confines of
    a surface trough axis aligned parallel, just inland from the
    coastal plain will be the threat through the period with urban
    flash flooding the most likely case of any potential. Highest 5"
    probs via 12z HREF neighborhood output are still in that 40-90%
    range, however the highest probs are centered between Melbourne to
    West Palm Beach with a centroid near Port St Lucie. This is hi-res
    indications of where they anticipate the strongest low-level
    convergence regime with relevant moisture flux situated just off
    the Atlantic coast at similar latitude to the elevated probs.
    Considering some error in convective placement, it's still
    reasonable to consider areas from Miami up to Daytona within the
    proxy for locally enhanced rainfall rates with hourly rates ~3"/hr
    at peak intensity when you factor PWATs hovering between 1.75-2"
    as of the 10/12z RAOB soundings from Cape Canaveral. This signal
    in the means and individual deterministic is more than sufficient
    for a maintenance of the MRGL risk in place with only a minor
    northward expansion in the area to cover for the current radar
    trends.

    Across the west, the setup remains consistent among all the CAMs
    and global deterministic with a relative max situated over the
    northern Sierra along and near I-80 where modest instability and
    sufficient large scale ascent should initiate a period of moderate
    to heavy rain for multiple hours that could enhance a localized
    flood prospect. As we move further inland into the Great Basin, the
    setup shifts to more scattered/widespread convective schemes that
    are better suited for those highly localized flash flood concerns
    within topography that historically favors flashier output due to
    the soil composition and prevalence of dry washes and arroyos
    littered over the high desert. This threat expands into the Snake
    River basin of ID and adjacent zones later this evening. Totals
    between 1-2" (Locally higher in the northern Sierra) will be most
    common in the MRGL risk in place from the Central Valley of
    California up into Sawtooth and Salmon River Ranges of Idaho.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussions..

    ...Sierra/Great Basin...

    An upper low will dig into the West Coast while sending streams of
    vorticity into the Sierra Nevada, Great Basin and Northern
    Rockies. Diffluence will spread across the aforementioned areas
    throughout the day on Friday. At the surface, a low pressure system
    will propagate across the interior West, while anomalous moisture
    (3-4 stndv PWATs) streams in behind the preceding cold front.
    Scattered to isolated thunderstorms may develop and produce
    isolated instances of excessive rainfall and flash flooding.

    Upslope enhancement across the Sierra could produce heavier
    rainfall totals than what are currently forecast. EAS probabilities
    of 24 hour qpf exceeding 1 inch are over 40% in the Sierra and
    between 15-40% in the Great Basin. Therefore, burn scars over
    central and southern Idaho are at risk of flash flooding today.

    ...Eastern Florida...

    Moist easterly flow into a surface front oriented north-south will
    produce scattered convection across Florida today. The surface
    boundary draped along the eastern coast will focus PWATs of around
    2" in that area where MUCAPE between 500-1000 J/Kg will also likely
    produce high rain rates. Neighborhood probabilities of exceeding
    5" in 24 hours are between 40-90% from near Miami metro up through
    Melbourne and Orlando.

    Kebede


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE EAST-=20
    CENTRAL FLORIDA COAST...

    ...Eastern Florida...

    20z Update: In coordination with the Melbourne WFO, a SLGT risk was
    added to the east-central Florida coast south of Melbourne. A
    remnant moisture flux tied to the trailing low-level shear axis
    from Imelda will slowly propagate westward out of the Bahamas with
    embedded mid-level vorticity trying to develop into a more
    concentric circulation as we step into Saturday AM. The pattern is
    a ongoing evolution that begins in D1 and just moves forward in
    time with frictional convergence regime aligned along the eastern=20
    FL coast, mainly in line with a surface trough forecast parallel to
    the coastal plain for the foreseeable future. Sufficient low-level
    buoyancy aided by a thin axis of 1500-2000 J/kg of MUCAPE along the
    coast with PWATs between 1.8-2.2" situated within the same zone
    should allow for a heightened threat of locally heavy rainfall
    within the east-central FL coastal plain, noted by several CAMs and
    ensemble members of both the GEFS/ECENS. Considering the high
    neighborhood probs for >5" (45-80%) focused near and just south of
    the Space Coast, a SLGT risk was added for the elevated threat of
    flash flooding within the urban zones that align the immediate
    coast to just inland around the I-95 corridor. Some adjustments in
    future updates are plausible pending near term convective
    evolutions, so this is a period to monitor closely as we move into
    tomorrow morning and beyond.=20

    ...Great Basin...

    20Z Update: Previous forecast remains steadfast with only minor
    changes made to the MRGL risk forecast across the Great Basin into
    portions of the interior Northwest. Heaviest precip axis will be
    focused over central NV into southern ID as the upper trough begins
    to close off as it migrates inland from the Pacific leading to
    enhanced large scale forcing and steeper lapse rates Friday
    afternoon and evening in these locations. Anticipating rates to
    remain <1"/hr for the threat, however some of these locations are
    susceptible to even 0.5"/hr rates due to high run and complex
    topography that promotes funneling. As a result, there wasn't much
    of a reason to deviate from the last forecast issuance, so only
    minor adjustments based on updated probs and mean QPF distribution
    were generated in this forecast cycle.=20

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    The upper trough propagates through the Great Basin and begins
    lifting north on Friday. The excessive rainfall threat bleeds into
    Friday from Thursday as thunderstorms weaken and spread from the
    Great Basin into the Northern Rockies by Friday afternoon. Instability
    and moisture will be relatively modest (100-200 J/Kg MUCAPE)
    (0.5-0.9"). Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 1" are between
    10-20% over northern Nevada with 2 day totals potentially eclipsing
    2" in some places.

    Kebede


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025 - 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE FLORIDA
    SPACE COAST...

    ...Eastern Florida...

    20Z Update: Surface evolution of a weak surface low off the=20
    eastern FL coast will be key in determining the extent of the heavy
    rainfall persistence in-of the FL coast by Saturday. As of now,=20
    the ensemble means suggest a weak surface reflection will form and=20
    migrate slowly inland of the peninsula by Saturday afternoon=20
    leading to a larger area of the FL coast being subject to enhanced=20 convergence and northern push of elevated PWATs/instability capable
    of flash flood prospects. Ensemble means are more generous than=20
    most deterministic, however the the scheme is certainly favorable=20
    for the threat of a repeated heavy rain scenario in-of the FL Space
    Coast. In coordination with the Melbourne WFO, another SLGT risk=20
    was added for much of the CWA as ensemble mean QPF of >2" aligns=20
    best within the zone that extends from Daytona Beach down to Port=20
    St Lucie. If the D2 materializes, this will end up being a case=20
    where wet antecedent conditions would exacerbate the potential=20
    leading to a greater case for scattered flash flood signals as the=20
    pattern evolves. With a better low-level convergence regime=20
    generating from the surface reflection nearby, the chance for=20
    heavier precip expanding north of the previous period would be be=20
    higher, thus the SLGT risk having a larger areal footprint compared
    to the previous D2. This remains a period to watch as small shifts
    in the synoptic scheme could shift heavy rain proxy and subsequent magnitudes.=20

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    20Z Update: This setup remains on the lower end of the MRGL risk
    threshold due to the differences in placement of the heaviest
    precip aligned with the coastal convergence regime formulating over
    the northern Gulf waters. The latitudinal push of the convergent
    axis will likely dictate where the risk is even necessary as the
    southern Parishes are more than capable to absorb the heavy rain
    prospects promoted by some guidance. However, the urban corridor of
    New Orleans and nearby suburbs are more susceptible to flash flood
    prospects and were close enough to the highest mean QPF forecast
    that the main shift was to include the metro and shrink the overall
    risk footprint to align with areas that would see the heaviest
    precip potential and have the ability to entice flash flood
    prospects.=20

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    Mid- level vorticity swirling over the Central Gulf=20
    Coast will generate instability and pull an increasing amount of=20
    Gulf moisture into the region on Saturday. Convection should fire=20
    along a coastal convergence zone that develops and diurnal heating=20
    should enhance afternoon/evening storms along that boundary. PWATs=20
    will likely be over 2" with MUCAPE between 500-750 J/Kg. Ensemble=20
    exceedance probabilities of 2" are between 15-30% for much of=20
    southeast Louisiana.

    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-i4D47WCxDbxalBPmxU8kkMJUuLqC3vXbdJhglfFydnf= afXFExUEu1o9NNbpFBJWEtm1HpwPnLqKuVF-k_QOskagyg4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-i4D47WCxDbxalBPmxU8kkMJUuLqC3vXbdJhglfFydnf= afXFExUEu1o9NNbpFBJWEtm1HpwPnLqKuVF-k_QOKCsvUaI$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-i4D47WCxDbxalBPmxU8kkMJUuLqC3vXbdJhglfFydnf= afXFExUEu1o9NNbpFBJWEtm1HpwPnLqKuVF-k_QOY2bKtH8$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Oct 3 00:42:41 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 030042
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    842 PM EDT Thu Oct 2 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SIERRA, GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    01Z Update: The overall picture has changed little and the mesoscale expectations over the two risk areas outlined largely remained on
    track from the earlier outlook.

    Across FL, localized but high rainfall rates are expected across
    portions of the eastern Florida peninsula an southeast Florida
    this evening and into the overnight hours. Hourly rainfall rates of
    2 to 3 inches are expected which could result in localized flash
    flooding with urbanized areas and regions of poor drainage being
    the most vulnerable. With precipitable water values close to 2
    inches across this portion of Florida...and easterly flow of 20 to
    25 knots largely aligned perpendicular to the coastline which
    maximizes convergence combined with subtle cyclonic rotations
    evident on satellite imagery...the environment should be able to
    support and sustain upwards of 3 inch per hour rates within any
    slow moving axis of rainfall. Refer to Mesoscale Convective
    Discussion 1155 for additional details.

    Across portions of the Sierra and adjacent areas...training and
    repeating of showers and thunderstorms this evening may result in
    localized flash flooding due to hourly rainfall rates of 0.5 to
    1.0 inches that could result in rainfall totals of 1 to 2 inches.
    Even though instability is modest...the environment is
    characterized by precipitable water values of 1.0 to 1.4 inches (on
    the order of +2 to +4 standardized anomalies above climatology for
    early October) which at least suggests locally intense but brief
    downpours could be supported. Higher rainfall intensities falling
    on sensitive burn scars or urban areas would be most at risk for
    localized flash flooding into the late evening.

    Bann


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE EAST-
    CENTRAL FLORIDA COAST...

    ...Eastern Florida...

    20z Update: In coordination with the Melbourne WFO, a SLGT risk was
    added to the east-central Florida coast south of Melbourne. A
    remnant moisture flux tied to the trailing low-level shear axis
    from Imelda will slowly propagate westward out of the Bahamas with
    embedded mid-level vorticity trying to develop into a more
    concentric circulation as we step into Saturday AM. The pattern is
    a ongoing evolution that begins in D1 and just moves forward in
    time with frictional convergence regime aligned along the eastern
    FL coast, mainly in line with a surface trough forecast parallel to
    the coastal plain for the foreseeable future. Sufficient low-level
    buoyancy aided by a thin axis of 1500-2000 J/kg of MUCAPE along the
    coast with PWATs between 1.8-2.2" situated within the same zone
    should allow for a heightened threat of locally heavy rainfall
    within the east-central FL coastal plain, noted by several CAMs and
    ensemble members of both the GEFS/ECENS. Considering the high
    neighborhood probs for >5" (45-80%) focused near and just south of
    the Space Coast, a SLGT risk was added for the elevated threat of
    flash flooding within the urban zones that align the immediate
    coast to just inland around the I-95 corridor. Some adjustments in
    future updates are plausible pending near term convective
    evolutions, so this is a period to monitor closely as we move into
    tomorrow morning and beyond.

    ...Great Basin...

    20Z Update: Previous forecast remains steadfast with only minor
    changes made to the MRGL risk forecast across the Great Basin into
    portions of the interior Northwest. Heaviest precip axis will be
    focused over central NV into southern ID as the upper trough begins
    to close off as it migrates inland from the Pacific leading to
    enhanced large scale forcing and steeper lapse rates Friday
    afternoon and evening in these locations. Anticipating rates to
    remain <1"/hr for the threat, however some of these locations are
    susceptible to even 0.5"/hr rates due to high run and complex
    topography that promotes funneling. As a result, there wasn't much
    of a reason to deviate from the last forecast issuance, so only
    minor adjustments based on updated probs and mean QPF distribution
    were generated in this forecast cycle.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    The upper trough propagates through the Great Basin and begins
    lifting north on Friday. The excessive rainfall threat bleeds into
    Friday from Thursday as thunderstorms weaken and spread from the
    Great Basin into the Northern Rockies by Friday afternoon. Instability
    and moisture will be relatively modest (100-200 J/Kg MUCAPE)
    (0.5-0.9"). Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 1" are between
    10-20% over northern Nevada with 2 day totals potentially eclipsing
    2" in some places.

    Kebede


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025 - 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE FLORIDA
    SPACE COAST...

    ...Eastern Florida...

    20Z Update: Surface evolution of a weak surface low off the
    eastern FL coast will be key in determining the extent of the heavy
    rainfall persistence in-of the FL coast by Saturday. As of now,
    the ensemble means suggest a weak surface reflection will form and
    migrate slowly inland of the peninsula by Saturday afternoon
    leading to a larger area of the FL coast being subject to enhanced
    convergence and northern push of elevated PWATs/instability capable
    of flash flood prospects. Ensemble means are more generous than
    most deterministic, however the the scheme is certainly favorable
    for the threat of a repeated heavy rain scenario in-of the FL Space
    Coast. In coordination with the Melbourne WFO, another SLGT risk
    was added for much of the CWA as ensemble mean QPF of >2" aligns
    best within the zone that extends from Daytona Beach down to Port
    St Lucie. If the D2 materializes, this will end up being a case
    where wet antecedent conditions would exacerbate the potential
    leading to a greater case for scattered flash flood signals as the
    pattern evolves. With a better low-level convergence regime
    generating from the surface reflection nearby, the chance for
    heavier precip expanding north of the previous period would be be
    higher, thus the SLGT risk having a larger areal footprint compared
    to the previous D2. This remains a period to watch as small shifts
    in the synoptic scheme could shift heavy rain proxy and subsequent
    magnitudes.

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    20Z Update: This setup remains on the lower end of the MRGL risk
    threshold due to the differences in placement of the heaviest
    precip aligned with the coastal convergence regime formulating over
    the northern Gulf waters. The latitudinal push of the convergent
    axis will likely dictate where the risk is even necessary as the
    southern Parishes are more than capable to absorb the heavy rain
    prospects promoted by some guidance. However, the urban corridor of
    New Orleans and nearby suburbs are more susceptible to flash flood
    prospects and were close enough to the highest mean QPF forecast
    that the main shift was to include the metro and shrink the overall
    risk footprint to align with areas that would see the heaviest
    precip potential and have the ability to entice flash flood
    prospects.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    Mid- level vorticity swirling over the Central Gulf
    Coast will generate instability and pull an increasing amount of
    Gulf moisture into the region on Saturday. Convection should fire
    along a coastal convergence zone that develops and diurnal heating
    should enhance afternoon/evening storms along that boundary. PWATs
    will likely be over 2" with MUCAPE between 500-750 J/Kg. Ensemble
    exceedance probabilities of 2" are between 15-30% for much of
    southeast Louisiana.

    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7Sbq-SYohzwmL9S-WvAt0M62oMC6f3hAE52FREc2ydzh= pcqHMxBUUVNO5YAerMjNapHAPspy73jPMACLRhpeKMBuGys$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7Sbq-SYohzwmL9S-WvAt0M62oMC6f3hAE52FREc2ydzh= pcqHMxBUUVNO5YAerMjNapHAPspy73jPMACLRhpeOxUkboA$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7Sbq-SYohzwmL9S-WvAt0M62oMC6f3hAE52FREc2ydzh= pcqHMxBUUVNO5YAerMjNapHAPspy73jPMACLRhpeLXPSaA4$=20

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    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    343 AM EDT Fri Oct 3 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE'S A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    FLORIDA'S EAST COAST...

    ...Florida's East Coast...

    A closed mid-level disturbance will drift westward across the=20
    Florida Peninsula and into the Gulf of Mexico today. This system
    will bring tropical moisture from Imelda and Humberto with it. An=20
    inverted trough oriented along the Florida coast will interact with
    the moisture advecting into the region and force scattered=20
    thunderstorm activity throughout the day. Modest instability=20
    between 500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE could produce quarter to half inch=20
    rates over the slight risk area. Parts of central and southern=20
    Florida that have received between 2-4 (isolated 5) inches of rain
    in the past 24 hours will be especially susceptible to runoff from
    today's storms. Neighborhood exceedance probabilities of 5 inches=20
    are between 20-40% across Florida's east coast today.

    ...Great Basin...

    Additional rainfall is forecast to occur beneath the upper low,
    which will continue propagating through the interior West today.=20
    Recent heavy rainfall over portions of the Great Basin will likely
    prime surfaces for runoff from additional precipitation. Burn=20
    scars in central and southern Idaho continue to be of concern from=20
    today's storms, the bulk of which should occur this morning into=20
    afternoon before the upper low moves directly over the Great Basin=20
    and instability weakens. HREF EAS exceedance probabilities of over=20
    1 inch are between 15-35% over northern/central Nevada where PWATs=20
    will be between 2-3 standard deviations above normal.


    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025 - 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025

    ...THERE'S A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    FLORIDA'S EAST COAST...

    ...Florida's East Coast...

    Thunderstorms are expected to continue to develop along the=20
    inverted trough axis oriented north-south along Florida's east=20
    coast on Saturday. Moisture will lift north along with the mid-
    level disturbance. The inherited slight and marginal risk areas=20
    were maintained due to a mostly consistent signal for excessive=20
    rainfall over the east central coast. Ensemble exceedance
    probabilities of 2 inches are between 5-10% across the marginal
    risk area. 48 hour totals between 3-5 inches (local 6") will likely
    make overcoming flash flood guidance a bit easier.

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    The same moisture regime impacting the Florida peninsula will focus
    over the central Gulf Coast this weekend. Mid-level vorticity will
    lift into the area on Saturday, providing forcing for convection=20
    along the immediate Louisiana/Mississippi coast. Anywhere between=20
    4-6 inches of rain may occur over far southeastern Louisiana=20
    through Saturday night. Despite 2" ensemble exceedance=20
    probabilities being relatively low (5-10%), the multi day nature=20
    of the rainfall could still produce isolated instances of flash=20
    flooding.


    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025 - 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND THE SOUTHEAST COAST...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    The mid-level disturbance continues propagating westward toward the
    positively tilted upper trough centered over the West on Sunday.
    Thus, the heavy rainfall threat will likely bleed over from=20
    Saturday evening into Sunday morning for portions of the Central=20
    Gulf Coast, before dissipating beneath diminished support aloft.
    PWATs of 2-2.5" and instability between 500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE could
    churn out rain rates between 1-1.5"/hr Saturday morning into
    afternoon. Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 2 inches are=20
    between 5-15% along the far southeastern Louisiana to Florida=20
    panhandle corridor, which supports the marginal risk area in=20
    place.=20

    ...Southeast Coast...

    Inverted troughing continues along the Florida/Southeast Coast
    through the latter part of this weekend. Anomalous moisture (2-3=20
    stndv) will continue interacting with the surface boundary to=20
    generate scattered to isolated thunderstorms across the=20
    Florida/Georgia coast. Rainfall totals of 1-3" are likely along=20
    the Florida/Georgia/South Carolina coast on Saturday. The latest=20
    guidance has trended away from tropical moisture making its way=20
    inland, therefore a marginal risk was maintained for much of the=20
    Southeast Coast.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8lou75ZfJWo2XtaYp7O5H36FbT1XQ0rdJuOpCqww5bLk= W6qQh2J7MWsvbtYwrLDOhkHS6lLKjThVbWuFloWTkAaU93w$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8lou75ZfJWo2XtaYp7O5H36FbT1XQ0rdJuOpCqww5bLk= W6qQh2J7MWsvbtYwrLDOhkHS6lLKjThVbWuFloWTugsQsDQ$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8lou75ZfJWo2XtaYp7O5H36FbT1XQ0rdJuOpCqww5bLk= W6qQh2J7MWsvbtYwrLDOhkHS6lLKjThVbWuFloWT2N5mr7I$=20

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