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    From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Nov 26 07:20:46 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    Google has blocked a huge network of pro-China propaganda news websites

    I can see what the writer of this story is saying about this: the
    writer wants us to credit Google for standing up against China, and for "stopping the spread of disinformation."

    I took it as "Google doesn't want the competition". :)

    But of course that's not what the story says to me. It sounds to me
    like Google is reinforcing their grip on authority; the authority to dictate what constitutes "propaganda."

    Yes, it's back to the "trust the experts". But they don't realize that trust in "experts" is at an all time low because we've seen too many "experts" who were out, standing in their fields (i.e. not really experts, but political shills).

    The good news is that this will open up the opportunity for other search engines and make Google clean up their act or they will die.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Tue Nov 26 07:32:10 2024
    writer wants us to credit Google for standing up against China, and f "stopping the spread of disinformation."

    I took it as "Google doesn't want the competition". :)

    After everything Google did for Biden, this slam on the CCP is awkward. They like Biden, but they don't like his party (or at least they want us to think that they don't.)

    Yes, it's back to the "trust the experts". But they don't realize that trust in "experts" is at an all time low because we've seen too many "experts" who were out, standing in their fields (i.e. not really
    experts, but political shills).

    Our country consists of an intelligent majority. We've already learned not to trust Democrats or the media. Our next lesson (as an intelligent country) is to not trust Google and other "foundational liars." You and I are already there, and I'm confident that our intelligent majority is at least in the process of figuring this out.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Nov 26 19:59:47 2024
    On 26 Nov 2024, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    writer wants us to credit Google for standing up against China, a
    "stopping the spread of disinformation."

    I took it as "Google doesn't want the competition". :)

    After everything Google did for Biden, this slam on the CCP is awkward. They like Biden, but they don't like his party (or at least they want us to think that they don't.)

    Yes, it's back to the "trust the experts". But they don't realize tha
    trust in "experts" is at an all time low because we've seen too many "experts" who were out, standing in their fields (i.e. not really experts, but political shills).

    Our country consists of an intelligent majority. We've already learned
    not to trust Democrats or the media. Our next lesson (as an intelligent country) is to not trust Google and other "foundational liars." You and
    I are already there, and I'm confident that our intelligent majority is
    at least in the process of figuring this out.
    There were down right nah-sayers the first time Trump was running in 2016, and even previous to that / Spring and Summer of that year, we read a lot of hateful messages surrounding the election and even poking fun w/ the concept of Trump winning in November of 2016. It was ridiculous.

    Even the Spring and Summer of 2024 there were some holdouts w/ a little less stream in their rhetoric. There might of been even some that thought I dunno or even others who could of been on the fence, even? All wondering if Trump had a chance to win. Oh he did more then just Win, he blew the doors off!

    Instead of a boiling angry tea kettle, whistling at full tilt, that we all witnessed in 2016.. Now in 2024 all we have is a low simmer of a hum, a
    sallow remembrance if it's former glory, that barely registers upon the ears.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Gregory Deyss on Wed Nov 27 02:49:56 2024
    Even the Spring and Summer of 2024 there were some holdouts w/ a little less stream in their rhetoric. There might of been even some that
    thought I dunno or even others who could of been on the fence, even? All wondering if Trump had a chance to win. Oh he did more then just Win,
    he blew the doors off!

    Instead of a boiling angry tea kettle, whistling at full tilt, that we
    all witnessed in 2016.. Now in 2024 all we have is a low simmer of a
    hum, a sallow remembrance if it's former glory, that barely registers
    upon the ears.

    People need to learn things the hard way sometimes. It was awful to experience the things that Biden did to us and to this country, but the voters needed that dose of reality. It's like the time (one of the times) when I drank too much alcohol and it made me sick, only the Biden thing didn't even give me a buzz in the first place.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Nov 27 07:15:52 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    After everything Google did for Biden, this slam on the CCP is awkward. They like Biden, but they don't like his party (or at least they want
    us to think that they don't.)

    Biden is just a puppet, and Google should be smart enough to understand that. So I doubt that Google likes Biden.

    I think the problem is that Google understands that most people don't want Socialism, but they wanted to be one of the "elite" so they allied themselves with the group trying to get there, only to be exposed.

    Now Google has to deal with the backlash and is trying to appear like they are on our side - but no one is going to believe them.

    Our country consists of an intelligent majority. We've already learned
    not to trust Democrats or the media. Our next lesson (as an intelligent country) is to not trust Google and other "foundational liars." You and
    I are already there, and I'm confident that our intelligent majority is
    at least in the process of figuring this out.

    More are figuring it out every day. And it was so appearant over the last 4 years that only the most hardcore brainwashed Leftie couldn't see it.

    Now the ones who could see it need to be given the time to work it out and accept reality. It's hard, especially for the Ignorant Elitists, to handle the idea that they were wrong. But, surprisingly, many are coming to grips with that.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Nov 27 07:15:52 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-

    People need to learn things the hard way sometimes. It was awful to experience the things that Biden did to us and to this country, but the voters needed that dose of reality. It's like the time (one of the
    times) when I drank too much alcohol and it made me sick, only the
    Biden thing didn't even give me a buzz in the first place.

    And that it one of the good things that has come out of this mess: People are now aware and pissed. It will be a few generations before the Elitists try this again.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Wed Nov 27 13:45:26 2024
    I think the problem is that Google understands that most people don't
    want Socialism, but they wanted to be one of the "elite" so they allied themselves with the group trying to get there, only to be exposed.

    In China, the communist government (dictating/ruling party) might not be what we want here in the USA, but to them they are "conservative" and they are "the right." I don't blame them for that. Everyone should put their own country first. Members of the Chinese govt are nationals, and they express nationalism.

    Google knows a thing or two about taking baby-steps towards achieving a globalist goal. Their people primarily use Baidu anyway. But by censoring the CCP, they're taking baby-steps towards usurping the CCP from their throne.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Nov 28 09:18:17 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    In China, the communist government (dictating/ruling party) might not
    be what we want here in the USA, but to them they are "conservative"
    and they are "the right." I don't blame them for that. Everyone should
    put their own country first. Members of the Chinese govt are nationals, and they express nationalism.

    And that's the way things were in the U.S. back in the 1940's. Both major parties were nationalists. Both were for the U.S. They only differed by how they wanted to achieve their goals.

    But the Democrats were the party of the Liberals and were the easiest party to subvert by the Elitists.

    And, unlike the CCP, the Republicans won't block the establishment of another, competing, party.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sat Nov 30 12:23:00 2024
    Google has blocked a huge network of pro-China propaganda news websites

    I can see what the writer of this story is saying about this: the writer wants
    us to credit Google for standing up against China, and for "stopping the sprea
    of disinformation."

    But of course that's not what the story says to me. It sounds to me like Googl
    is reinforcing their grip on authority; the authority to dictate what constitutes "propaganda."

    Here in the USA, propaganda is legal, and Google knows that very well. But the
    more they invest in the narrative of "we're the experts at what's propaganda and what's not," the more likely Democrats will be able to convince the American public of it.

    I know, it is good to have a lot of sources of misinformation to cite when
    you need to prove a point. :D


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Sat Nov 30 13:20:00 2024
    Instead of a boiling angry tea kettle, whistling at full tilt, that we all witnessed in 2016.. Now in 2024 all we have is a low simmer of a hum, a sallow remembrance if it's former glory, that barely registers upon the ears.

    I saw a piece on NewsNation about this. The speculation is that they were shocked that he won again and are also tired of the negativity and
    rhetoric. My guess is that they will show up again once/should the Trump administration do anything outrageous.

    The news piece also pointed out that a lot of the women who were moved to mobilize in 2016 (and probably during the 2020 Summer of Love, too) may not have been mobilized so much this time because Rowe v. Wade was overturned
    and their blue states were then moved to shore up their access to abortion laws. They pointed out Pennsylvania and New York as two NE US examples of states where it might be more difficult to mobilize them now because they
    have what they want (right to choose) and also have a potential for better financial times (cheaper food and gas).

    One other thing they brought up, that I had forgot... there were some in
    the initial 2016 movement that were shunned by the other women. For
    example, there were some pro-life women who were otherwise against Trump.
    The pro-choice groups shunned including them in future rallies, which cut
    into their numbers. There were other more conservative female demographics that were also shunned. All the shunning of women who were anti-Trump but otherwise conservative hurt the overall numbers and power of the cause.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Sat Nov 30 13:25:00 2024
    People need to learn things the hard way sometimes. It was awful to experience the things that Biden did to us and to this country, but the voters needed that dose of reality. It's like the time (one of the times) when I drank too much alcohol and it made me sick, only the
    Biden thing didn't even give me a buzz in the first place.

    And that it one of the good things that has come out of this mess: People are now aware and pissed. It will be a few generations before the Elitists try this again.

    They are already lining up for 2028.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Powell on Sun Dec 1 13:47:07 2024
    The news piece also pointed out that a lot of the women who were moved to mobilize in 2016 (and probably during the 2020 Summer of Love, too) may not have been mobilized so much this time because Rowe v. Wade was overturned and their blue states were then moved to shore up their
    access to abortion laws. They pointed out Pennsylvania and New York as two NE US examples of states where it might be more difficult to
    mobilize them now because they have what they want (right to choose) and also have a potential for better financial times (cheaper food and gas).
    Abortion was never a protected act under the U.S. Constitution
    - no matter how loudly those who wish to scream that it was.
    Without question they fall very short in the intelligence department.

    Is Abortion A Constitutional Right?
    https://tinyurl.com/74vwnfx2

    Beginning of Snip it.
    So, when Roe was ultimately overturned in 2022, Justice Alito wrote in the Court's majority opinion that Roe was remarkably loose in its treatment of the constitutional text. It held that the abortion right, which is not mentioned in the Constitution, is part of the right to privacy, which is also not mentioned. And that privacy right, Roe observed, had been found to spring from no fewer than five different constitutional provisions the First, Fourth, Fifth, Ninth, and Fourteenth Amendments.

    But, acknowledging that it isn't in the Constitution at all, Roe's majority claims the right to privacy is broad enough to encompass a woman's decision whether or not to terminate her pregnancy.

    More can be found at https://tinyurl.com/74vwnfx2

    Things like child abuse, illicit drug use and nonconsensual pornography are private acts are they protected too? Where is the line drawn when broadening the Constitution?
    End of Snip it.

    Most of us know and even those who want to debate this endlessly concerning the topic of abortion also know that abortion has nothing to with Women's Health Care or a rights of a female.

    Let's also clear up the most absurd notions, once and for all time.
    A baby born with XY chromosomes - is logically and factually a boy and cannot ever give birth as the boy grows into a man.
    Which also makes the use of menstrual products for Men completely ridiculous.

    There is no desire within me to be cold regarding this subject with those who have felt trapped or currently feel that there is no other option.

    Contraception is everywhere of the kind that prevents pregnancy.
    but some methods have been marketed as medicine, the stigma and the horror have been removed to be neat and painless and carefree.
    In a plain sense, what their ingesting is poison to kill.

    I mean... they are not all held down and bound w/ with restraints.
    Yes of course, in the event that there is risk of life of the mother or other situations such as rape or incest, or complications within the pregnancy itself then that choice should be respected.

    Need to inform and educate against violence against women, men who are these dirt-bags need to prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, with severe penalties. EXcluding of course death.

    The mentality also must change - there are men / disgusting pigs who look as such an act, as a conquest, with a desire to impregnate (splash) into as many women that they can score with, of which is is sick and twisted.
    This type of monster should be castrated.
    Hunted down with pitchforks if desired, for the full effect - to be sure.

    The numbers of abortions in NYC alone are staggering. It would not surprise to learn of the numbers of abortions discovered in other blue cities are
    just as alarming. The same problematic issue is seen in elections as it would seem.

    Is this one the reasons that America can't seem to flourish, due to the
    noise and the weight from the left?

    After what has been witnessed these past 4 years with the Biden Administration. I think the time is now, that the Democratic Party should be be eliminated.
    The MAGA movement should be as constant as the Sun.

    One other thing they brought up, that I had forgot... there were some in MP> the initial 2016 movement that were shunned by the other women. For
    example, there were some pro-life women who were otherwise against Trump. Returning this to states has been sought for many years. Trump got it done.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Dec 1 12:20:28 2024

    Abortion was never a protected act under the U.S. Constitution
    - no matter how loudly those who wish to scream that it was.
    Without question they fall very short in the intelligence department.


    Former Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said this same thing. She said Roe was on shaky ground and needed to be codified into law.

    Democrats love a wedge issue, Obama had the votes his first year in... Did he do it NOOOOoooo... He went with wedge issues like Transgender and whatnot... Mike was impressed... American people suffered.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Mon Dec 2 09:32:00 2024
    Let's also clear up the most absurd notions, once and for all time.
    A baby born with XY chromosomes - is logically and factually a boy and cannot ever give birth as the boy grows into a man.

    No disagreement here. Many of the more sane transwomen will tell you the
    same thing... that they can never give birth or menstruate.

    There is no desire within me to be cold regarding this subject with those who have felt trapped or currently feel that there is no other option.

    Me, either.

    Need to inform and educate against violence against women, men who are these dirt-bags need to prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, with severe penalties.

    Yeah, they drummed that into us when I was younger. Not sure where the disconnect is. If they are not educating against violence against women,
    then there is a serious issue.

    Is this one the reasons that America can't seem to flourish, due to the
    noise and the weight from the left?

    IMHO, it is too much noise from both extremes, and too much noise period
    that keeps us from flourishing.

    We've become a society that thinks social media is the #1 place we should consume news, and our enemies... China, North Korea, Iran, and Russia... exploit this weakness of ours by flooding social media with junk.

    After what has been witnessed these past 4 years with the Biden
    dministration
    I think the time is now, that the Democratic Party should be be eliminated. The MAGA movement should be as constant as the Sun.

    In order to keep checks and balances working, there needs to be some
    opposition to the majority, regardless of who is in power. The Democrats have an issue of campaigning on fixing issues but then they only really want to
    make marginal changes to the status quo. They, like many Republicans, are beholden to the corporations that make money off of things being kept the way they are.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Mon Dec 2 09:32:00 2024
    Former Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said this same thing. She said Roe was on shaky ground and needed to be codified into law.

    Democrats love a wedge issue, Obama had the votes his first year in... Did he do it NOOOOoooo... He went with wedge issues like Transgender and whatnot... Mike was impressed... American people suffered.

    No I was not impressed. I am the one who keeps pointing out that Obama had
    the votes and did nothing. So did Clinton (before the 1994 midterms) and so did Carter.


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