I have no TDS (clue, it's not a thing). I see Donald Trump for who he is.

I think TDS is a thing. Most people accused of having it just because they question certain things Trump has done *don't* have it.

I have a college friend who posts often on FB... or, at least he did until the election was decided. He hung on Trump's every word, even more than Aaron or Joe appear to, and was constantly posting about Trump. The difference is that this friend is not a MAGA and detests "Cheeto Jesus" (his words).
Otherwise he, like the most ardent MAGAs, couldn't get enough of Trump.

IMHO, that is an unhealthy obsession with someone you don't like. Not sure what the official term for that would be but "TDS" would seem to fit the
bill in this instance.


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I have a college friend who posts often on FB... or, at least he did
until the election was decided. He hung on Trump's every word, even
more than Aaron or Joe appear to, and was constantly posting about
Trump. The difference is that this friend is not a MAGA and detests "Cheeto Jesus" (his words). Otherwise he, like the most ardent MAGAs, couldn't get enough of Trump.

IMHO, that is an unhealthy obsession with someone you don't like. Not sure what the official term for that would be but "TDS" would seem to
fit the bill in this instance.

There's 2 strains of the TDS virus and they both have opposite effects.

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Mike Powell wrote to ALAN IANSON <=-

I think TDS is a thing. Most people accused of having it just because they question certain things Trump has done *don't* have it.

Folks tend to say "TDS" when all else fails.

IMHO, that is an unhealthy obsession with someone you don't like. Not sure what the official term for that would be but "TDS" would seem to
fit the bill in this instance.

I tend to think of TDS as something MAGAs suffer from in spite of everthing Trump we have seen and heard since the ride down the golden escalator.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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I have a college friend who posts often on FB... or, at least he did until the election was decided. He hung on Trump's every word, even more than Aaron or Joe appear to, and was constantly posting about Trump. The difference is that this friend is not a MAGA and detests "Cheeto Jesus" (his words). Otherwise he, like the most ardent MAGAs, couldn't get enough of Trump.

IMHO, that is an unhealthy obsession with someone you don't like. Not sure what the official term for that would be but "TDS" would seem to fit the bill in this instance.

There's 2 strains of the TDS virus and they both have opposite effects.

If you are meaning that one of them is not agreeing with everything Trump
says or does, that is not TDS. Just like not agreeing with everything that Obama said and did didn't mean some of us had ODS.

An "unhealthy obsession" with someone you don't like, OTOH, is an indicator
of something wrong. Whether you call it TDS or give it a more official diagnosis, it is not good for your mental health.


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IMHO, that is an unhealthy obsession with someone you don't like. Not sure what the official term for that would be but "TDS" would seem to fit the bill in this instance.

I tend to think of TDS as something MAGAs suffer from in spite of everthing Trump we have seen and heard since the ride down the golden escalator.

Some of them also seem to suffer from an unhealthy obsession, that is for
sure.


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There's 2 strains of the TDS virus and they both have opposite effects.

If you are meaning that one of them is not agreeing with everything Trump says or does, that is not TDS. Just like not agreeing with everything that Obama said and did didn't mean some of us had ODS.

No I just mean that there's a population that loves Trump excessively, and there's a population that hates him excessively.

I don't think there are a lot of people who are in-between (perhaps you and a few others.) My dad has always voted Republican but he refused to vote this year because he's disappointed in Trump because over the January 6 incident.

But I think most people are either 1 extreme or the other.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

No I just mean that there's a population that loves Trump excessively,
and there's a population that hates him excessively.

I don't think there are a lot of people who are in-between (perhaps you and a few others.)

Personally, I think you are wrong here.

I believe that the number of people at the extremes are small.

I think most people are more in-between, running the range of "I kinda like the guy" to "he's a boor, but I like cheap gas, cheap food and no wars."

That's what shifted things for this election. The in-between people left their idological safe-spaces when Bidenomics started messing with their lives.


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No I just mean that there's a population that loves Trump excessively, and there's a population that hates him excessively.

I don't think there are a lot of people who are in-between (perhaps you and a few others.)

Here maybe not, but I think there are a lot of people who don't really like Trump as a person but find him a preferable choice to what the Democrats
are offering -- meaning they don't hate him enough not to vote for him, or
to vote for Harris.

My dad has always voted Republican but he refused to vote this
year because he's disappointed in Trump because over the January 6 incident.

Your dad and I may have something in common, assuming that he also didn't
vote for Bi... I mean Harris. ;)


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I don't think there are a lot of people who are in-between (perhaps y and a few others.)

Personally, I think you are wrong here.

I believe that the number of people at the extremes are small.

I think most people are more in-between, running the range of "I kinda like the guy" to "he's a boor, but I like cheap gas, cheap food and no wars."

That's what shifted things for this election. The in-between people
left their idological safe-spaces when Bidenomics started messing with their lives.

Yea, most people don't care about politics, or at least they didn't care until Biden gave them a reason to care. They might not have Trump flags attached to their vehicles, but I think they're gonna stick with us from here on out.

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I don't think there are a lot of people who are in-between (perhaps you few others.)

Here maybe not, but I think there are a lot of people who don't really like Trump as a person but find him a preferable choice to what the Democrats are offering -- meaning they don't hate him enough not to vote for him, or to vote for Harris.

Yea, that's what Ron says also. I realize that. There are a lot of people who don't care about politics until a politician noticeably hurts them, and that could describe the majority of voters.

My dad has always voted Republican but he refused to vote this
year because he's disappointed in Trump because over the January 6 incid

Your dad and I may have something in common, assuming that he also didn't vote for Bi... I mean Harris. ;)

Yea, he didn't do that. But I don't think he realizes that not voting equates to a vote for Harris.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

Yea, most people don't care about politics, or at least they didn't
care until Biden gave them a reason to care.

Exactly. And I've said it before: Most people just want to be left alone to live their lives. But it's become appearant that the Elitists won't permit that - because the Elitists think that they can run our lives better than we can.

They might not have Trump
flags attached to their vehicles, but I think they're gonna stick with
us from here on out.

They'll stick with him as long as he produces results.

But that's the main difference between most people and the Left. The Left can't produce results because they are all incompetent.


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Here maybe not, but I think there are a lot of people who don't really like Trump as a person but find him a preferable choice to what the Democrats are offering -- meaning they don't hate him enough not to vote for him, or to vote for Harris.

Yea, that's what Ron says also. I realize that. There are a lot of people who don't care about politics until a politician noticeably hurts them, and that could describe the majority of voters.

I would not necessarily say "hurts" although, in this case, that could be
some people. They may not like his attitude or how he belittles others,
for example, or some of the people he surrounds himself with (like, for a
few days anyway, Gaetz).

Your dad and I may have something in common, assuming that he also

idn't

vote for Bi... I mean Harris. ;)

Yea, he didn't do that. But I don't think he realizes that not voting equates to a vote for Harris.

I don't know what state he lives in but here I knew it did *not* equate to that. In 2016, OTOH, I was not so sure so I voted for Trump even though I
was not thrilled with either choice. I found him to be the preferable loudmouth to Hillary and didn't want to cast a vote that equated to voting
for her.

This time, there were a lot of local things that I really wanted to get my
vote cast on, like an Amendment that clearly states that non-citizens
cannot vote (I voted for it and it passed) and some non-partisan local government races.


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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon -yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Article on Trump's felony case...

Start:
On May 30, 2024, Donald Trump pulled off a historic first: he became the first former president of the United States to be found guilty of felony crimes. However, it's inaccurate to say that he's a convicted felon at this time because, well, that's just not how the law was designed. While he's guilty in his infamous hush money trial, the "convicted felon" title is still pending.
:Stop

:Start
Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon — at least not until he gets his official sentence. During sentencing, the judge will decide his fate, which could range from a slap on the wrist to time behind bars. Trump's crimes fall under the Class E felony category in New York, which is the lowest level of felony in the state. He could face a fine, probation, or up to four years in prison.
:Stop

You should read a little more and inform yourself. If you made these kinds of claims in the 80's and 90's I'd understand... But my God... The Internet debunks most of what you say in seconds....

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https://x.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1796693313417793588

Looks like Ron already knows...

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Yea, he didn't do that. But I don't think he realizes that not voting eq to a vote for Harris.

I don't know what state he lives in but here I knew it did *not* equate
to that. In 2016, OTOH, I was not so sure so I voted for Trump even though I was not thrilled with either choice. I found him to be the preferable loudmouth to Hillary and didn't want to cast a vote that equated to voting for her.

My dad lives in NY. He abstained from voting and our state was won by Harris.

I don't blame him though. Trump can only give us 4 years of relief, and I believe that the real help comes from a power higher than Trump.

This time, there were a lot of local things that I really wanted to get
my vote cast on, like an Amendment that clearly states that non-citizens cannot vote (I voted for it and it passed) and some non-partisan local government races.

That's cool! And you already have the voer ID law, so your state is making strides despite the hickup of accidentally electing Beshear.

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I don't know what state he lives in but here I knew it did *not* equate to that. In 2016, OTOH, I was not so sure so I voted for Trump even though I was not thrilled with either choice. I found him to be the preferable loudmouth to Hillary and didn't want to cast a vote that equated to voting for her.

My dad lives in NY. He abstained from voting and our state was won by Harris.

Ours went Trump. The only two counties that Harris won were Fayette (Lexington) and Jefferson (Louisville). That was foreseeable. Honestly,
had Biden not blown the first debate and stayed on the ticket, I might not
have been as sure about it.

This time, there were a lot of local things that I really wanted to get my vote cast on, like an Amendment that clearly states that non-citizens cannot vote (I voted for it and it passed) and some non-partisan local government races.

That's cool! And you already have the voer ID law, so your state is making strides despite the hickup of accidentally electing Beshear.

I don't really think that was an accident, especially since he got
re-elected. The people here are conservatives but won't put up with ideas
that are outright cruel or stupid. Now, if the state economy had been as bad off as the national one has been, Beshear might have lost re-election.


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FACT CHECK - The post quoted below contains false and/or misleading
information -- "Trump is not a felon yet." Sources:

Trump Convicted on All 34 Counts of Falsifying Records in Hush-Money Case
He is the first U.S. president to be convicted of a felony.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/05/30/donald-trump-verdict/

Yes, Trump Has Been Convicted of Felonies
In May 2024, a jury found Donald Trump guilty on all 34 counts of
falsifying business records in a hush-money scheme.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-convicted-felonies/

No, Donald Trump's felony conviction hasn't been overturned

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/oct/18/threads-posts/no-donald-trumps
-felony-conviction-hasnt-been-over/

https://tinyurl.com/3c2yyjda

Did Trump vote as a convicted felon?

"*Yes*. Trump resides in Florida, where it is usually difficult to vote as a convicted felon. However, for those convicted in other states, it defers to the laws of the state in which the individual was prosecuted.

"CNN reports Trump was allowed to vote in Palm Beach under a 2021 New York law granting people convicted of felons the right to vote as long as they aren't incarcerated at the time of the election."

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/11/08/is-trump-a-co
nvicted-felon-president-vote-when-trial-guilty-court-date-sentencing-us/76108799
007/

https://tinyurl.com/49z2nth3

This message was from IB JOE to MIKE POWELL,

Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange limbo wher
he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon - at least not until he gets his official sentence. During sentencing, the judge will decide his fate, which could range from a slap on the wrist to time behind bars. Trump's crimes fall under the Class E felony category in New York, which is th
lowest level of felony in the state. He could face a fine, probation, or up to
four years in prison.

I have posted this to you 3 or 4 times.

Is there something there you don't understand??

Lets not get to deep into the weeds because if you don't understand this... everything else is pointless.

Please explain yourself.

I didn't want to add a second item so as I might confuse you.

Here is a lawyer explaining that Judges can throwout jury convictions, not if they are found innocent but if they are found guilty.

This is why it takes the final judges sentencing to seal the deal.

https://youtube.com/shorts/tpulVxGcyRI?si=sXiAaWpvs26WLGze

This is some of the most remedial aspects to US law... I'm sure you should have taken it in Civics class...

Trump is not a felon yet.

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