First you agreed with me that the polio vaccine is effective at preventing polio, and then you said "No vaccine prevents disease."

It's not a big deal, but you totally contradicted yourself. People do that sometimes, especially when they're frantically trying to be right about something that they didn't put much thought into.

The polio and smallpox vaxes were effective enough that they pretty much stamped out the diseases in question (well, until people quit taking them,
and until we started letting these diseases back into the country again).

OTOH, other vaxes are not quite that effective but do the job for most
people.

IMHO, the COVID vax has not reached that latter rung yet. If you travel somewhere that has a different strain going around, for example, you are
not likely protected.


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The polio and smallpox vaxes were effective enough that they pretty much stamped out the diseases in question (well, until people quit taking
them, and until we started letting these diseases back into the country again).

That's what I'd call a vaccine.

OTOH, other vaxes are not quite that effective but do the job for most people.

I use N95s indoors (except for at home.) I've been doing this for the past 5 years and it's been 99% successful. To me, there's no better vaccine than the N95 mask.

IMHO, the COVID vax has not reached that latter rung yet. If you travel somewhere that has a different strain going around, for example, you are not likely protected.

That sounds true. I'm sure that the deadliest covid strains are still out there somewhere, or at least the blueprints to make them are.

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On 13 Nov 2024, Mike Powell said the following...

They were all young and healthy and doctors. All were forced to take th

ab.

All now dead.

I wonder if they were taking something experimental, knowingly or not.

Here, I know many more people who died from COVID and complications
caused by it (lost count) than who died from getting vaccinated (1 &
they had pre-existing condition).

I am not saying that COVID didn't exist or have its issues. I'm saying that when people, like doctors and researchers, they were shut down and called anti-vaxers. What I said about the doctors dying is true and I'm not sure if anyone has explored the question fully.

There is vaccine reluctance now... this is why. If you want to get it... Go get it... Take my shot if you want.

Holding the pharma companies accountable would be a big step in the right direction. Many, many years ago there was a shooting in Louisville.
They shooter was on Prozac. The pharma company somehow settled --
without the judge's knowledge -- so neither they, nor their medication, was held accountable.

They quit prescribing that one to young people (the shooter wasn't young) but that was about it.

There are too many stories like that.

Lets hope Bobby tables this. I'd rather see medication taking time to go through the process than have something come out too prematurely.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

"The covid vaccine doesn't prevent covid."

No vaccine prevents disease or virus from infecting someone. It helps your

body fight off infection.

First you agreed with me that the polio vaccine is effective at
preventing polio, and then you said "No vaccine prevents disease."

It's not a big deal, but you totally contradicted yourself. People do
that sometimes, especially when they're frantically trying to be right about something that they didn't put much thought into.

Disease and virus's do exist, vaccines can't do anything about that. That is why vaccines exist.

Vaccines are effective at preventing polio and other disease by increasing your bodies ability to fight it off. Polio is not the killer it once was.

What do you want from me?

Ttyl :-),
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"The covid vaccine doesn't prevent covid."

No vaccine prevents disease or virus from infecting someone. It helps

body fight off infection.

First you agreed with me that the polio vaccine is effective at preventing polio, and then you said "No vaccine prevents disease."

It's not a big deal, but you totally contradicted yourself. People do that sometimes, especially when they're frantically trying to be righ about something that they didn't put much thought into.

Disease and virus's do exist, vaccines can't do anything about that.
That is why vaccines exist.

Now you're doing it again. It's ok.

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OTOH, other vaxes are not quite that effective but do the job for most people.

I use N95s indoors (except for at home.) I've been doing this for the past 5 years and it's been 99% successful. To me, there's no better vaccine than the N95 mask.

I get funny looks but I still mask when indoors in a public place.

IMHO, the COVID vax has not reached that latter rung yet. If you travel somewhere that has a different strain going around, for example, you are not likely protected.

That sounds true. I'm sure that the deadliest covid strains are still out

her

somewhere, or at least the blueprints to make them are.

If it is like most viruses, it will mutate into a form that is less deadly.
A live host is a better factory for multiplying and spreading than a dead
one.


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I use N95s indoors (except for at home.) I've been doing this for the pa years and it's been 99% successful. To me, there's no better vaccine tha N95 mask.

I get funny looks but I still mask when indoors in a public place.

Same here! I think you know what it's like to be flu/virus-free then.

That sounds true. I'm sure that the deadliest covid strains are still ou

her

somewhere, or at least the blueprints to make them are.

If it is like most viruses, it will mutate into a form that is less deadly. A live host is a better factory for multiplying and spreading than a dead one.

There are likely some of those lurking also.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

Disease and virus's do exist, vaccines can't do anything about that.
That is why vaccines exist.

Now you're doing it again. It's ok.

This is the type of doublespeak that made many actual medical professionals sit up and start asking questions. And they didn't like the (usually circular) answers they were given.

They dived into the actual research on viruses, vaccines, etc. and found that there was no actual proof of:
1. Viruses existing - none had ever been isolated.
2. Microbes making people sick. It was all along the lines of "we found the microbe in sick people, and in well people too, but they must be 'asymptomatic'.)
3. Contagion. The "disease" was not shown to spread via a microbe exposure.
4. A "vaccine" actually working.

When the actual medical professionals spoke on this, the Medical Industrial Complex and the Elitists shut them down.

This is why they are freaking out over RFK being head of HHS. He will demand proof and when he doesn't get it, he's going to make them prove things or shut their money making machine down.


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1. Viruses existing - none had ever been isolated.

This is false. The virus that causes Polio was isolated in 1908. The
first time influenza virus was isolated was in 1933.

2. Microbes making people sick. It was all along the lines of "we found the microbe in sick people, and in well people too, but they must be 'asymptomatic'.)

Pathogenic microbes do make people sick.

3. Contagion. The "disease" was not shown to spread via a microbe exposure.

Except they are.

4. A "vaccine" actually working.

Then why were we not all catching polio, measles, smallpox, or mumps any
more (until we stopped vetting people for disease and let some of these
back into the country -- see your false point #3)?


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This is why they are freaking out over RFK being head of HHS. He will demand proof and when he doesn't get it, he's going to make them prove things or shut their money making machine down.

I'm looking forward to that. And I realize the secretary of HHS will serve Americans first, but maybe he can help Alan with his ridiculous contradictions or Bjorn with his machine-washable brain.

Disease and virus's do exist, vaccines can't do anything about that. That is why vaccines exist.

After reading that part like 6 times, I guess it sorta makes sense, but look at what led up to this conversation:
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Aaron> "The polio vaccine is 90% effective at preventing polio."

Alan> That is true after two doses. Three doses are 99 to 100% effective.

Aaron> "The covid vaccine doesn't prevent covid."

Alan> No vaccine prevents disease or virus from infecting someone. It helps your body fight off infection.
---

We had to ignore Alan's extreme contradictions twice in order to wind up in an intelligent conversation. To me, it's funny.

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what led up to this conversation:
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Aaron> "The polio vaccine is 90% effective at preventing polio."

That is true after two doses. Three doses are 99 to 100% effective.

Aaron> "The covid vaccine doesn't prevent covid."

No vaccine prevents disease or virus from infecting someone. It helps

your body fight off infection.
---

We had to ignore Alan's extreme contradictions twice in order to wind up in an intelligent conversation. To me, it's funny.

There is no contradiction there Arron, just facts. Simple obvious facts.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

I'm looking forward to that. And I realize the secretary of HHS will
serve Americans first, but maybe he can help Alan with his ridiculous contradictions or Bjorn with his machine-washable brain.

I'm sad to day, but stupidity is terminal. :)

After reading that part like 6 times, I guess it sorta makes sense, but look at what led up to this conversation: ---

We had to ignore Alan's extreme contradictions twice in order to wind
up in an intelligent conversation. To me, it's funny.

Wow! Only twice.

It IS funny, but after a while it gets tiring trying to explain Reality to the Reality-challenged and logic to the illogical.


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Aaron> "The polio vaccine is 90% effective at preventing polio."

Alan> That is true after two doses. Three doses are 99 to 100% effective.

Aaron> "The covid vaccine doesn't prevent covid."

Alan> No vaccine prevents disease or virus from infecting someone. It helps your body fight off infection.

We had to ignore Alan's extreme contradictions twice in order to wind up in an
intelligent conversation. To me, it's funny.

It is not really a contradiction, although I question his wording. He is saying that no vaccine prevents you from getting the germs, but they do
help your body fight off actually becoming ill.

So, people vaccinated for a disease might get the germs, and might even be
able to spread it during the time between contact and fighting it off.
Some vaccines are nearly 100% effective at preventing illness while others
are not... usually because the infected person caught a new or reintroduced strain not covered by the last vaccine they got.

I 100% believe all this "vaccines are bad" and "germs don't exist" nonsense
has happened because there are a large number of Americans (me included)
who are not old enough to remember what life was like before vaccines were introduced.

People who are old enough to remember are damned glad that they never had polio, measles, mumps, etc., because they *knew* people who did, and most
of them are damned glad there were vaccines introduced that nearly or completely irradicated those diseases from the US. Those of us not quite old enough never lived in a world where those diseases were common. We take
for granted that we can "never catch them" and apparently some of us have become comfortable enough that we question whether or not they even existed.


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We had to ignore Alan's extreme contradictions twice in order to wind up in an intelligent conversation. To me, it's funny.

Wow! Only twice.

It IS funny, but after a while it gets tiring trying to explain Reality
to the Reality-challenged and logic to the illogical.

The smarter leftists have disappeared from Fidonet. They lost the battle in our never-ending debates, and they all know that "Trump was right about
everything." And it seems like you and Joe S. were right all along about "people are waking up."

I know that Alan is a smart guy and that he's just trolling us. Either that, or he's trying to impress liberal Janice, but I bet that she's got no candy for him.

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It is not really a contradiction, although I question his wording. He is saying that no vaccine prevents you from getting the germs, but they do help your body fight off actually becoming ill.

Here's that silly conversation:

Aaron> "The polio vaccine is 90% effective at preventing polio."

Alan> That is true after two doses. Three doses are 99 to 100% effective

Aaron> "The covid vaccine doesn't prevent covid."

Alan> No vaccine prevents disease or virus from infecting someone. It he your body fight off infection.

Alan agreed with me when I said "The polio vaccine is 90% effective at preventing polio." But then he also added "No vaccine prevents disease." The wording is everything. The left words things badly intentionally to promote false narratives.

People who are old enough to remember are damned glad that they never had polio, measles, mumps, etc., because they *knew* people who did, and most of them are damned glad there were vaccines introduced that nearly or completely irradicated those diseases from the US. Those of us not
quite old enough never lived in a world where those diseases were
common. We take for granted that we can "never catch them" and
apparently some of us have become comfortable enough that we question whether or not they even existed.

That sounds likely. I've never known anyone with polio, so to me it seems like the polio vaccine must be real, and it must be extremely effective.

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Alan agreed with me when I said "The polio vaccine is 90% effective at preventing polio." But then he also added "No vaccine prevents disease." The wording is everything. The left words things badly intentionally to promote false narratives.

I'm going to say it again in the hope it will sink in.

Vaccines don't prevent disease, they help your body fight off an infection.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

The smarter leftists have disappeared from Fidonet. They lost the
battle in our never-ending debates, and they all know that "Trump was right about everything." And it seems like you and Joe S. were right
all along about "people are waking up."

Those people don't like people telling them "I told you so".

But they'll just go quiet for a few months, then start pushing the Narrative they are told to. Just like they usually do.

What will be interesting is what they will do now that the Propaganda Mininstry has collapsed.

I know that Alan is a smart guy and that he's just trolling us. Either that, or he's trying to impress liberal Janice, but I bet that she's
got no candy for him.

There's an old tasteless joke of "What do you call a dog with no legs? Nothing. He can't come when you call him anyway."

In the case of Alan, whether he's a moron, or only speaks like one to push his agenda, it doesn't matter. For me, he's just another Elitist to ignore.


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

That sounds likely. I've never known anyone with polio, so to me it
seems like the polio vaccine must be real, and it must be extremely effective.

I've never known anyone with polio either - and I'm closer to the age group that would have gotten it, if it was actually a problem.

But the logic that "well, we don't have polio anymore, therefore the vaccine must been effective" is really not much logic.

By the same logic, I can say that my air filter is keeping the sharks away. I've never seen a shark here in rural Michigan, so it must be working.

Now, if someone can show me where they isolated the virus (they haven't), shown that it's contageous (they haven't), showed that it was the cause of the problem (they didn't), and that the "vaccine" prevented it (they haven't), then I can change my mind about the polio vaccine.


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The smarter leftists have disappeared from Fidonet. They lost the battle in our never-ending debates, and they all know that "Trump was right about everything." And it seems like you and Joe S. were right all along about "people are waking up."

Those people don't like people telling them "I told you so".

But they'll just go quiet for a few months, then start pushing the Narrative they are told to. Just like they usually do.

Yea, they don't know what the new narrative is yet. Once the media decides that for them, then they'll come back here to try it out.

For now, it's just "Trump's going to ban abortions." (They sound so smart saying that!)

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The smarter leftists have disappeared from Fidonet. They lost the battle in

u

never-ending debates, and they all know that "Trump was right about everything." And it seems like you and Joe S. were right all along about "people are waking up."

To be fair, one of the smartest liberals in this echo -- Dale -- passed away.
I don't know what happened to Jeff T. He just disappeared. I suspect a
few others who sometimes drop by may still be reading but have probably
tired of trying to have much intelligent conversation here.

I know that Alan is a smart guy and that he's just trolling us. Either that,

he's trying to impress liberal Janice, but I bet that she's got no candy for him.

Janis has also passed away. Pretty sure I posted that here.


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But the logic that "well, we don't have polio anymore, therefore the vaccine must been effective" is really not much logic.

By the same logic, I can say that my air filter is keeping the sharks away. I've never seen a shark here in rural Michigan, so it must be working.

How long, if ever, has it been since there were sharks in rural Michigan? Pretty sure it has been a whole lot longer, if ever, than polio was seen
there.

The reason you have not seen polio in rural Michigan is because it was erradicated. I have met people my parent's age and older who had it. I
don't know any my age because we all got vaccinated.

Don't worry. As the pool of vaccine and virus deniers grows, I am sure
polio will come back again someday... a lot sooner before sharks would.


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

Yea, they don't know what the new narrative is yet. Once the media
decides that for them, then they'll come back here to try it out.

And right now the media has bigger problems - like continuing to exist - than pushing the latest Narrative. Partly because every time they push the Narrative, their ratings drop even more. And with no Elitist money propping them up, they are getting pretty scared.

For now, it's just "Trump's going to ban abortions." (They sound so
smart saying that!)

They are highlighting their complete ignorance to everyone.


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The smarter leftists have disappeared from Fidonet. They lost the battle

u

never-ending debates, and they all know that "Trump was right about everything." And it seems like you and Joe S. were right all along about "people are waking up."

To be fair, one of the smartest liberals in this echo -- Dale -- passed away. I don't know what happened to Jeff T. He just disappeared. I suspect a few others who sometimes drop by may still be reading but have probably tired of trying to have much intelligent conversation here.

Yea, I liked Dale. Smartest liberal is a terrible title to have, but he was a great guy.

I didn't know that Janis died. She was nice too. I liked her BBS. I will definitely stop joking about her now that I know about this. I read her obituary and I was shocked to find out that he was like 72. I thought she was younger than me. (72 is still too early to go!)

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Yea, I liked Dale. Smartest liberal is a terrible title to have, but he was a great guy.

I enjoyed our discord it was different and less nasty then some.

I didn't know that Janis died. She was nice too. I liked her BBS. I will definitely stop joking about her now that I know about this. I read her obituary and I was shocked to find out that he was like 72. I thought
she was younger than me. (72 is still too early to go!)

As for Janis I did not know either, her system while in New York was the only system not within the Net 267 nodelist, that operates the through the entire state of NY. As a passing thought I always thought that was odd. She was such a contributor to fidonet and that was more important to me then having her within the Empire Net of Net 267.

... Still waitng for that Coffee :)

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As for Janis I did not know either, her system while in New York was the only system not within the Net 267 nodelist, that operates the through
the entire state of NY. As a passing thought I always thought that was odd. She was such a contributor to fidonet and that was more important
to me then having her within the Empire Net of Net 267.

After she announced that she was taking her BBS down, I contacted her to see if she would sell me her BBBS license (BBBS is a cool BBS software) but she never replied. It seems like that was just a few months ago.

Now we barely got anyone to argue with anymore. :(

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On 20 Nov 2024, Aaron Thomas said the following...

As for Janis I did not know either, her system while in New York was t
only system not within the Net 267 nodelist, that operates the through
the entire state of NY. As a passing thought I always thought that wa
odd. She was such a contributor to fidonet and that was more important
to me then having her within the Empire Net of Net 267.

After she announced that she was taking her BBS down, I contacted her to see if she would sell me her BBBS license (BBBS is a cool BBS software) but she never replied. It seems like that was just a few months ago.

Now we barely got anyone to argue with anymore. :(

I understand you very well and you're right. I respected very much what Janice accomplished and contributed to the fidonet community. Our politics never aligned but of course that is also no secret. Still it is very possible to have an appreciation for ones accomplishments.
As for the other: Conservatives hold things together for far longer and WE also have the ability to simply agree to disagree without bouncing off the walls w/out acting out in a ball of rage.

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As for Janis I did not know either, her system while in New York was the only system not within the Net 267 nodelist, that operates the through the entire state of NY. As a passing thought I always thought that was odd. She was such a contributor to fidonet and that was more important to me then having her within the Empire Net of Net 267.

After she announced that she was taking her BBS down, I contacted her to see

she would sell me her BBBS license (BBBS is a cool BBS software) but she

ever

replied. It seems like that was just a few months ago.

Now we barely got anyone to argue with anymore. :(

She took it down, but then she actually came back for a while. She was
having some sort of technical issues, though.

I wonder now if she didn't take it down after getting her initial
diagnosis, and then decided to bring it back up after she had recovered
from the shock. We will probably never know though.


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As for the other: Conservatives hold things together for far longer and WE

lso

have the ability to simply agree to disagree without bouncing off the walls >w/out acting out in a ball of rage.

We did have that ability. I worry now that some have lost that ability. I don't believe that stooping to the level of others is the way to go.


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I understand you very well and you're right. I respected very much what Janice accomplished and contributed to the fidonet community. Our

I give her credit for figuring out how to run BBBS. It's a pain to set it up. The documentation for it sucks. She had it running nicely, and she even had the web server (a web version of the BBS) and it was nifty.

politics never aligned but of course that is also no secret. Still it is very possible to have an appreciation for ones accomplishments.
As for the other: Conservatives hold things together for far longer and
WE also have the ability to simply agree to disagree without bouncing
off the walls w/out acting out in a ball of rage.

Yea. I love that we don't have a code of conduct to adhere to, but we sorta adhere to one anyway (for the most part) just because we're good honest people. The lefties though, they have to explain themselves when they're seen walking out of a house that has Trump signs in the yard.

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Now we barely got anyone to argue with anymore. :(

She took it down, but then she actually came back for a while. She was having some sort of technical issues, though.

I wonder now if she didn't take it down after getting her initial diagnosis, and then decided to bring it back up after she had recovered from the shock. We will probably never know though.

Yea, I remember that. I had no idea that she was suffering or else I wouldn't have asked to buy her BBBS license. I just assumed that she was tired of BBSing (like a lot of people are, who have given it up.)

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-

Yea. I love that we don't have a code of conduct to adhere to, but we sorta adhere to one anyway (for the most part) just because we're good honest people. The lefties though, they have to explain themselves when they're seen walking out of a house that has Trump signs in the yard.

You might want to read up on the "Creator Covenant" fiasco with open source projects.

Quick overview:
The Elitists marketed it as a "code of conduct" with lots of flowerly sounding words. Then once the project adopted it, used it to force the maintainer to accept commits from "marginalized people" even though the commits were garbage and then not accept commits from competent people if they were white males.

A number of maintainers got booted from their own projects because of this.

Elitists like to use things like a "code of conduct" to infiltrate and ruin institutions.

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Yea. I love that we don't have a code of conduct to adhere to, but we sorta adhere to one anyway (for the most part) just because we're goo honest people. The lefties though, they have to explain themselves wh they're seen walking out of a house that has Trump signs in the yard.

Elitists like to use things like a "code of conduct" to infiltrate and ruin institutions.

That's interesting! I knew something was up back in 2020 when all the celebrities started acting like alien nazis.

"Trump bad. Biden good. Buy my new album. Laugh at Jimmy Kimmel's jokes."

I've been saying it all along that "there's a major collusion going on here." Is that the "covenant" that you're referring to? I'd like to read more about it but a quick Google search didn't reveal anything (for me.)

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I've been saying it all along that "there's a major collusion going on here." Is that the "covenant" that you're referring to? I'd like to
read more about it but a quick Google search didn't reveal anything
(for me.)

No, but the collusion between media and the Elitists is certainly appearant.

I had the name wrong. They changed it because of the bad press it was getting.
It's now called "Contributor Covenant".

Here's a link to one of the pages complaining about it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18002708


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