• Re: Florida Amendments

    From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Thu Nov 14 11:02:44 2024
    On 13 Nov 2024, Mike Powell said the following...

    I would assume as a Lesbian she already has most, or all, of those 4Bs covered. :D

    You actually bring up an interesting point (between this message and the last one). The women I have noticed who seem to want the fewest restrictions put on abortion are usually in groups (older, lesbian) who are not very likely to be getting pregnant.

    Maybe I am wrong there but that is my observation.


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  • From jimmylogan@1:105/7 to IB Joe on Mon Dec 9 07:31:06 2024
    IB Joe wrote to jimmylogan <=-

    On 10 Nov 2024, jimmylogan said the following...

    That's the crux of the matter. All of this talk about 'freedom' is
    freedom to murder. SMH


    I think the only way to fix this is give the unborn constitutional
    rights.

    They are alive, for the record...




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  • From jimmylogan@1:105/7 to Alan Ianson on Mon Dec 9 07:31:06 2024
    Alan Ianson wrote to jimmylogan <=-

    jimmylogan wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    There was just a vote for president, but there was no vote for
    abortion. Why should/would there be?

    Did you read my comments on representative republic? People vote for
    and against issues every time they elect a senetor or representative,
    or even a school board member or county commissioner.

    What I am saying is those representatives are going against the will of the people (in this matter).

    My point is that the will of the people is what the representatives are supposed to be doing. If they are not then they should be voted out.

    If they are not voted out, then they must be supported by the majority of voters. If the people who are against them refuse to vote, though, then
    they aren't making their wishes known.



    Since the majority of voters are sending conservatives to my state legislation, the lawmakers are supporting defendig the unborn.

    It doesn't matter to me much if the people have voted conservative or
    not. Those representatives are not representing the will of the people
    (in this matter).

    See my comment above. There are vocal people that claim they aren't being representated. It's not on those that disagree to to change the way they
    vote. I'm going to continue to vote for what I support, as I expect them
    to do.



    Actually, since Donald Trump is saying the states are now voting on it maybe there should be a vote. Was there a vote for it in Tennessee.

    Not on the ballet this year, becasue - again - the majority are conservative because that is what is being sent to the legislature
    each year.

    Maybe it doesn't need to be on the ballot if women already have these rights. I don't know if that is the case in in Tennesse.

    What rights are you referring to? Sorry - been a bit before I could
    login and do a mail run.



    Why does your beliefs on the matter mean more than the womans?

    It doesn't, but it should matter equally. The unborn hasn't reached
    a voting age yet, just like a toddler or teen hasn't. I'm simply expressing my desire that they not be sacrificed.

    If you are simply expressing your desire I have no issue.

    It is when demanding a woman do this or that against her own wishes
    that I take issue. A womand should have the right to privacy, and to
    make her own decisions.

    Where do you draw the line though? Does that apply to doing what they
    want in their own home too, even if it is affecting children in
    that house?




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  • From jimmylogan@1:105/7 to Ron L. on Mon Dec 9 07:31:06 2024
    Ron L. wrote to jimmylogan <=-

    jimmylogan wrote to Dr. What <=-

    This is a good point! Tennessee is a 'gun toting' state. I won't shoot
    you in the back for stealing my television, but I will defend myself
    and others if you threaten by coming into my house while I am home.

    Exactly. Did you notice in the Democrat Summer of Love that all of the riots occurred in Left-run areas? Everyone else would have shot back.

    Remember the man and woman in St. Louis that defended their home with
    the THREAT of shooting? And the state attourney, I think it was, wanted
    to prosecute them?





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  • From jimmylogan@1:105/7 to Mike Powell on Mon Dec 9 07:31:06 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to JIMMYLOGAN <=-

    Why does your beliefs on the matter mean more than the womans?

    It doesn't, but it should matter equally. The unborn hasn't reached
    a voting age yet, just like a toddler or teen hasn't. I'm simply
    expressing my desire that they not be sacrificed.

    It should be based on viability age. Living toddlers and teens are viable. Many late-term premature babies are viable without extensive
    life support. Most early term premature babies are very much not
    viable.

    That makes a very logical cut-off point.

    Though I disagree that that should be the 'cut-off,' I would GLADLY
    go along with that as opposed to abortion on demand - any time, any
    reason. At least it's a step in the right direction...




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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to jimmylogan on Tue Dec 10 18:01:52 2024
    On 09 Dec 2024, jimmylogan said the following...

    They are alive, for the record...


    Babies are alive, for the record.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to jimmylogan on Wed Dec 11 07:23:06 2024
    jimmylogan wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Remember the man and woman in St. Louis that defended their home with
    the THREAT of shooting? And the state attourney, I think it was, wanted
    to prosecute them?

    Yup. Lots of media coverage as they were harassed and prosecuted. Then it all went quiet. I wonder why. Could it be that they won?


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JIMMYLOGAN on Wed Dec 11 09:16:00 2024
    It should be based on viability age. Living toddlers and teens are viable. Many late-term premature babies are viable without extensive life support. Most early term premature babies are very much not
    viable.

    That makes a very logical cut-off point.

    Though I disagree that that should be the 'cut-off,' I would GLADLY
    go along with that as opposed to abortion on demand - any time, any
    reason. At least it's a step in the right direction...

    I don't believe that "on demand" is right, either. Over time, I would
    think that would be both physically and mentally damaging to the persons
    who use abortion in that manner. The procedure should be more of a last resort.


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