• Re: Chilli

    From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Sat Feb 15 17:19:00 2025
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Ben Collver <=-

    What's your favorite way to serve the chili?

    I'm pretty boring. In a bowl works best for me. ;)

    My favourite way to serve the chilli is straigh from the chilli pot.

    Mine is "chili cheese fries." I make a batch of oven fries, top each serving with chili and some grated cheese.

    That is always good as well.

    My favourite way to *eat* chilli mis either straight from a bowl with
    chopped onion and grated yellow cheese as toppings/garnidh. Or over an
    all-beeg hot dog in a bun w/chopped onion nand grasted yellow cheese.

    I thinkl the chopped onion and grated cheese may have something to do
    with that.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chilli Dog
    Categories: Beef, Chilli, Cheese, Chilies, Pork
    Yield: 18 Servings

    1/2 lb Bacon; in small pieces
    1 lg Onion, chopped
    2 lb Ground beef
    4 cl Chopped garlic
    16 oz Can tomato sauce
    1 c Beef broth
    2 tb Molasses or honey
    2 tb Sweet paprika
    1 tb Ground cumin
    2 tb Chilli spice
    1 ts Cayenne
    Salt
    Hot dogs
    Buns
    Chopped onion; garnish
    Shredded cheddar or jack
    - cheese; garnish

    The chilli recipe makes enough chilli for 16-20 hot dogs,
    which may seem like a lot, but you're just getting a
    large spoonful with each dog. So, if you have fewer
    people to cook for, just use the leftover chilli as a
    stand-alone-dish for later.

    If you're feeding more, just double the chilli recipe.
    You'll be happy you made a big batch. A note on the hot
    dogs, get the best quality hot dog you can, I/we tend to
    look for kosher dogs. The hot dogs themselves only need
    to be grilled enough to be heated; they are already
    cooked when you take them out of the package.

    Make the chilli first. Fry the bacon over medium heat
    until it begins to get crispy, then add the onions and
    fry over high heat, stirring often, until they begin to
    brown.

    Add in the ground beef and stir in well. Cook this,
    still over high heat and stirring occasionally, until
    the beef is no longer pink. This will take a few minutes.
    When the beef is about halfway cooked, toss in the garlic
    and mix well.

    Once the beef is well browned, add the tomato sauce,
    molasses and beef broth. Add all the spices except the
    cayenne and stir well. Bring to a simmer and taste. Add
    salt or more cayenne if it needs it. You can of course
    add much more cayenne or chilli powder if you like things
    really zippy, but taste first and then add more if you
    like.

    Let the chilli cook on a gentle simmer for at least 30
    minutes before you start grilling the hot dogs. You can
    cook it several hours if you want to, adding a little
    more beef or chicken broth here and there if the chilli
    gets too dry.

    Grill your hot dogs over medium heat until they get a
    light char/grill marks. Grill the hot dog buns briefly
    if you want - no more than a minute, as they will burn
    fast. You can also paint the buns with vegetable oil or
    butter before grilling if you'd like.

    Dog goes in bun, chilli goes on top, sprinkle on chopped
    onion and shredded cheese, and have at it!

    From: http://simplyrecipes.com/recipes

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Sat Feb 15 19:06:00 2025
    Hi Dave,
    On <Sun, 15 Feb 25>, you wrote me:

    I thinkl the chopped onion and grated cheese may have something to do

    I always add chopped onion to mine as well. No one else aroumd here does
    that but that's okay. :)

    Shawn
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Shawn Highfield on Sun Feb 16 19:59:00 2025
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I think the chopped onion and grated cheese may have something to do

    I always add chopped onion to mine as well. No one else aroumd here
    does that but that's okay. :)

    There are many "trsaditional" ways to serve chilli.

    1-Way: Just chilli in a bowl/plate.

    Cincinatti chilli's ways are formalised. And the Greek influenced chilli
    has cinnamon and allspice as well as chocolate. I use cinnamon and some 'chocolate in my chilli - but not in as "forward" quantity as Cincy. I
    find that the cinnamon and chocolate help the other flavours to blend.

    2-Way: Chilli served over spaghetti.

    3-Way: Chilli served over spaghetti w/shredded Cheddar cheese.

    4-Way: Chilli served over spaghetti w/diced raw onions and shredded
    Cheddar cheese.

    5-Way: Chilli served over spaghetti w/warmed canned red kor pinto beans,
    diced raw onions, and shredded Cheddar cheese.

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Authentic Cincinnati Chilli
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Herbs, Chocolate, Chilies
    Yield: 10 servings

    2 lb Lean ground beef
    1 qt Water; to cover
    2 Onions; fine chopped
    15 oz Can tomato sauce
    2 tb Vinegar
    4 cl Garlic;, minced
    2 ts Worcestershire sauce
    1 oz Square unsweetened chocolate
    1/4 c Chilli spice mix
    1 1/2 ts Xalt
    1 ts Ground cumin
    1 ts Ground cinnamon
    1/2 ts ground cayenne pepper
    5 Whole cloves
    5 Whole allspice berries
    1 Bay leaf

    Gather the ingredients.

    Place ground beef in a large pan, cover with cold water,
    and bring to a boil, stirring and breaking up beef with
    a fork to a fine texture. Slowly boil until meat is
    thoroughly cooked, about 30 minutes.

    Add onions, tomato sauce, vinegar, garlic,
    Worcestershire sauce, and chocolate. Stir in chilli
    spice, salt, cumin, cinnamon, and cayenne pepper until
    well mixed. Add cloves, allspice berries, and bay leaf.

    Bring to a boil, reduce heat to a simmer, and cook,
    stirring occasionally, for 3 hours. Add water if
    necessary to prevent chilli from burning.

    Submitted by Melissa Hamilton

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.allrecipes.com

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Mon Feb 17 11:27:00 2025
    Hi Dave,
    On <Mon, 16 Feb 25>, you wrote me:

    4-Way: Chilli served over spaghetti w/diced raw onions and shredded Cheddar cheese.

    Out of those choices, this is the one I think I'd like. Truthfully I
    prefer just a bowl and some old soda crackers. LOL

    Shawn
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  • From Dave Drum@1:396/45 to Shawn Highfield on Mon Feb 17 13:59:30 2025
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    4-Way: Chilli served over spaghetti w/diced raw onions and shredded Cheddar cheese.

    Out of those choices, this is the one I think I'd like. Truthfully I prefer just a bowl and some old soda crackers. LOL

    In actuality, if I'm having Cincinatti chilli I take 'em all.That variant
    is *very* cinnamon/allspice forward and I'm wanting to turn down the hit
    from the spices.

    I actually like chilli-mac even though it's considered "ppverty food" in
    its use of pasta to stretch out the protein. But I "expensify" t nup a
    notch by using shredded/grated Parmesan for the cheese.

    Back in the day when the generic stuff first hit the stores an 8c box
    of plain clabel Man n Chereze abd a 25c can of chilli w/beansx would
    feed four chirrun. Or two adults.

    Not much on crackers in my chilli as I make it thick enought to not use
    a sauce absorbent. If I'm out6 and about and the chilli is pretty liquid
    I might go for some "oyster" crackers.but not saltiines/

    Everryone's taster is different. That's why well-written menu will offer options... Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dave's Quick Chilli Mac
    Categories: Five, Beef, Pasta, Cheese, Chilies
    Yield: 2 Servings

    15 oz Can of your favourite chilli
    6 oz Elbow macaroni from a box of
    - macaroni & cheese
    Salt & pepper
    Shredded Cheddar or Parmesan
    Diced (1/8") onion; opt

    Boil the pasta in salted water according to package
    directions. Drain, reserving a half-cup of the pasta
    water.

    Open the can of chilli and spread over the cooked
    pasta, stirring it in. Pour the reserved pasta water
    into the can to get the last of the goodness from
    the can to the bowl. Stir again.

    Divide the result between two bowls/plates and serve.
    Pass shredded cheese and diced onion.

    ENJOY!!!

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Feb 17 20:24:18 2025
    Hi Dave,

    On (16 Feb 25) Dave Drum wrote to Shawn Highfield...

    I always add chopped onion to mine as well. No one else aroumd here
    does that but that's okay. :)

    There are many "trsaditional" ways to serve chilli.

    1-Way: Just chilli in a bowl/plate.

    Cincinatti chilli's ways are formalised. And the Greek influenced
    chilli has cinnamon and allspice as well as chocolate. I use cinnamon
    and some 'chocolate in my chilli - but not in as "forward" quantity as Cincy. I
    find that the cinnamon and chocolate help the other flavours to blend.


    Title: Authentic Cincinnati Chilli
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Herbs, Chocolate, Chilies
    Yield: 10 servings

    We went to a ham radio/RV rally last year in Berlin, Ohio. One of the
    things in our "goody bag" was a can of Cincinnati chili. We'd had a
    taste of it out at the rally, served over hot dogs, less than impressed.
    Got home and decided to break open our can; I think I served it with
    cheese and onions but we were still much less than impressed. We can
    now say that we've tried it--and will never buy it.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Feb 22 11:54:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I always add chopped onion to mine as well. No one else aroumd here
    does that but that's okay. :)

    There are many "trsaditional" ways to serve chilli.

    1-Way: Just chilli in a bowl/plate.

    Cincinatti chilli's ways are formalised. And the Greek influenced
    chilli has cinnamon and allspice as well as chocolate. I use cinnamon
    and some 'chocolate in my chilli - but not in as "forward" quantity as Cincy. I find that the cinnamon and chocolate help the other flavours
    DD> o blend.

    Title: Authentic Cincinnati Chilli
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Herbs, Chocolate, Chilies
    Yield: 10 servings

    We went to a ham radio/RV rally last year in Berlin, Ohio. One of the things in our "goody bag" was a can of Cincinnati chili. We'd had a
    taste of it out at the rally, served over hot dogs, less than
    impressed. Got home and decided to break open our can; I think I served
    it with cheese and onions but we were still much less than impressed.
    We can now say that we've tried it--and will never buy it.

    Cincinatti Chilli is most definitely an aquired taste. And remains popular
    in Southernn Ohio and parts of Northern Kentucky. I like to have Cincinatti Chilli once in a while - but I do not consider it to be true chilli.

    Many will tell you that Steak & Shake's chilli, since their mune lists 5
    ways to order it, is Cincinatti chilli.

    Not true. The Steak & Shake chilli recipe came from Ray DeFrates, founder
    of Ray's Chilli and brother of Joe DeFrates tow-time ICS World Chilli Cook
    Off Champion.

    Ray lost the original recipe for his popular chilli to Gus Belt, another midwesterner and the founder of Steak & Shake. The original was pretty
    similar to this:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Smitty's Famous Lawson's Tavern Chilli
    Categories: Beef, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 1 Pot

    4 1/2 lb (to 5 lb) ground suet
    4 lb Coarse ground beef; this is
    - sometimes called chilli
    - chuck. Hamburger does not
    - work very well; it tends
    - to get too crisp.
    4 3/8 oz (3/4 cup) chilli spice mix
    2 tb Salt; more to taste
    3/4 tb Garlic powder
    1 ts Ground oregano
    2 ts Red pepper
    1 tb Ground cumin; more to taste
    Beans *

    Use a 9 to 10 quart iron kettle. Render the suet first.
    Put in a cup of water to get it started to melt and
    prevent sticking. Keep it boiling and stir constantly.
    When mixture stops foaming, skim off all foam. Continue
    cooking until suet looks like oil. Cracklings can be
    left in, if desired. If they taste strong, they should
    be omitted. Let oil cool until meat does not splatter
    when added.

    Add meat, breaking up with a potato masher or large
    spoon, while cooking. Always stir constantly. Cook until
    med/well done, but not crisp. Mix powdered ingredients
    and add them a few minutes before meat is done. Keep
    stirring. Don't let it stick to the bottom of the kettle.

    * BEANS: Beans, which are very important, are cooked
    separately from the meat. Small red beans (although hard
    to find) are best to use. Don't use kidney beans. Brooks
    hot chilli beans are the next best choice.

    Cooked beans are better if prepared at least 24 hours
    prior to serving. They will provide their own juice
    during cooking.

    SERVING: Place heated beans in bowl first. Top with 3
    to 4 tablespoons of chilli meat. Let the consumer do the
    mixing. Serve with crackers, etc.

    STORING CHILLI MEAT: Strain meat from oil; pour oil into
    small cake pans. Divide meat mixture into cake pans. Let
    cool until solid. Place pans in refrigerator or freezer
    for a few hours or a day. They can be removed easily by
    heating in a little hot water or moving pan over hot
    flame.

    Remove bricks from pans; seal tightly with butcher paper
    or plastic wrap. Do not use aluminum foil or leave in
    pan, as spices can eat through aluminum.

    These bricks can be stored in refrigerator for a couple
    of weeks or for a year in a freezer (if well wrapped).
    Slice off only the amount of brick you want to use;
    rewrap and refrigerate.

    NOTE: This chilli meat makes super Coney Island hot
    dogs.

    From: http://www.patriotledger.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Feb 22 19:00:54 2025
    Hi Dave,


    Title: Authentic Cincinnati Chilli
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Herbs, Chocolate, Chilies
    Yield: 10 servings

    We went to a ham radio/RV rally last year in Berlin, Ohio. One of the things in our "goody bag" was a can of Cincinnati chili. We'd had a
    taste of it out at the rally, served over hot dogs, less than
    impressed. Got home and decided to break open our can; I think I served
    it with cheese and onions but we were still much less than impressed.
    We can now say that we've tried it--and will never buy it.

    Cincinatti Chilli is most definitely an aquired taste. And remains popular in Southernn Ohio and parts of Northern Kentucky. I like to
    have Cincinatti Chilli once in a while - but I do not consider it to
    be true chilli.

    I wouldn't go out and buy it but I can at least say I've tried it. Same category as durian--have tried, found out it's ok but not something I'd
    go out and buy.

    Many will tell you that Steak & Shake's chilli, since their mune
    lists DD> 5 ways to order it, is Cincinatti chilli.

    Not true. The Steak & Shake chilli recipe came from Ray DeFrates,
    founder of Ray's Chilli and brother of Joe DeFrates tow-time ICS World Chilli Cook Off Champion.

    Ray lost the original recipe for his popular chilli to Gus Belt,
    another midwesterner and the founder of Steak & Shake. The original
    was pretty
    similar to this:


    Title: Smitty's Famous Lawson's Tavern Chilli
    Categories: Beef, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 1 Pot

    I think I'll stick with our chili recipies--family style (but without
    the corn) and competition style--just meat, spices, onion, tomato and
    peppers.

    Either one would have gone well for supper earlier this week. Between
    Wednesday and Thursday, we had 3.25" of snow. A lot of it is gone now
    but it shut down the whole area for several days. It was sleet and
    freezing rain to the south and east of us; we escaped that this time
    around. But, since we don't have as much snow removal equipment in this
    part of the state as the western part does, the secondary and back roads
    stay snow covered longer. Therefore, the kids get more snow days,
    government shuts down and the whole state comes down to a slow crawl.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Feb 24 12:07:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Cincinatti Chilli is most definitely an aquired taste. And remains popular in Southernn Ohio and parts of Northern Kentucky. I like to
    have Cincinatti Chilli once in a while - but I do not consider it to
    be true chilli.

    I wouldn't go out and buy it but I can at least say I've tried it. Same category as durian--have tried, found out it's ok but not something I'd
    go out and buy.

    If I'm in the area I might order it at a food establishment. But modtly I
    like Springfield-style/Dave's Kitchen chilli.

    Many will tell you that Steak & Shake's chilli, since their mune
    lists 5 ways to order it, is Cincinatti chilli.

    Not true. The Steak & Shake chilli recipe came from Ray DeFrates,
    founder of Ray's Chilli and brother of Joe DeFrates tow-time ICS World Chilli Cook Off Champion.

    Ray lost the original recipe for his popular chilli to Gus Belt,
    another midwesterner and the founder of Steak & Shake. The original
    was pretty similar to this:

    Title: Smitty's Famous Lawson's Tavern Chilli
    Categories: Beef, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 1 Pot

    I think I'll stick with our chili recipies--family style (but without
    the corn) and competition style--just meat, spices, onion, tomato and peppers.

    Well, yeah. Nearly every taven in town had a chilli on offer. All *VERY*
    heavy on the oil. Served in souffle plates w/chilli, beans (from another
    pot) and sometimes with a pair of tamales (called a "Doubleheader") I was
    never one for the extra cost of the tamales.

    There are a couiple places in town where one can still get a bowl of
    "good old, greasy, Springfield tavern chilli. Both do very well selling
    that stuff.

    Either one would have gone well for supper earlier this week. Between Wednesday and Thursday, we had 3.25" of snow. A lot of it is gone now
    but it shut down the whole area for several days. It was sleet and freezing rain to the south and east of us; we escaped that this time around. But, since we don't have as much snow removal equipment in this part of the state as the western part does, the secondary and back
    roads stay snow covered longer. Therefore, the kids get more snow days, government shuts down and the whole state comes down to a slow crawl.

    Sounds like a comment I first made when driving a semi through Arkansas
    during a winter event. Talking on the CB raDIO (remember those?) I told a
    guy who was crying about how slick it was "In Arkansas they think salt is something youm put on yopur French Fries not your roads." Bv)=

    I've posted my chilli beans recipe a number of times. Here's one that is
    from TVFN and looks good. I'll still use mine but wouldn't be afraid to make/eat/serve this one ...

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Pioneer Woman's Chilli Beans
    Categories: Beans, Vegetables, Chilies, Pork
    Yield: 12 servings

    4 c Dried pinto beans
    1 Ham hock
    15 oz Can tomato sauce
    1/4 c Chilli spice mix
    1/4 c Brown sugar
    2 tb (to 3 tb) white vinegar
    5 cl Garlic; minced
    1 lg Onion; peeled, diced small

    Recipe courtesy of Ree Drummond

    Rinse the beans under cold water, sorting out any
    rocks/particles. Cover in cold water and soak for 6
    to 8 hours.

    Drain the beans and place in a stockpot with the ham
    hock; cover with fresh water by 2 inches. Add the tomato
    sauce, chilli spice, brown sugar, white vinegar, garlic,
    onions, 1 tablespoon salt and 2 teaspoons pepper.

    Bring to a boil, lower the heat and simmer, adding a
    little more liquid if the level gets too low, until the
    beans are tender, 3 to 4 hours. Taste, and season with
    additional salt and pepper if needed.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.foodnetwork.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Feb 24 20:35:43 2025
    Hi Dave,

    Cincinatti Chilli is most definitely an aquired taste. And remains

    I wouldn't go out and buy it but I can at least say I've tried it. Same category as durian--have tried, found out it's ok but not something I'd
    go out and buy.

    If I'm in the area I might order it at a food establishment. But
    modtly I like Springfield-style/Dave's Kitchen chilli.

    I usually order something other than chili, especially if I don't know
    much about the chili. I've had some (at cook offs) that have been really
    nasty.


    I think I'll stick with our chili recipies--family style (but without
    the corn) and competition style--just meat, spices, onion, tomato and peppers.

    Well, yeah. Nearly every taven in town had a chilli on offer. All
    *VERY* heavy on the oil. Served in souffle plates w/chilli, beans
    (from another pot) and sometimes with a pair of tamales (called a "Doubleheader") I was never one for the extra cost of the tamales.

    Not so many places around here. We tried a new in town sushi place
    yesterday in a building that can't seem to keep a restaurant more than 6 months. I think this is the 3rd or 4th different iteration since we
    moved here in 2009. Anyway, the sushi was AYCE only, set price (soup,
    drinks, etc extra). We ordered 4 different types, one was one piece
    only, with raw fish so Steve had that. He had the clear (beef broth with
    thin sliced mushrooms) soup; I went with the miso soup with tofu and a
    few green leave of undetermined origin. The place is good for a young
    person, with a decent appetite and mediocre taste in sushi but not us.
    Nancy Backus introduced us to her favorite place, Taste of Japan, in
    West Henrietta, NY. We try to get there any time we're in the area; the
    owner and his wife are the only cook/chefs and the sushi is top notch.
    Found another sushi place here in town last summer; it was ok but not of
    the quality we've gotten at ToJ. Still, we'd go back to that place over
    the new one, given a choice.

    There are a couiple places in town where one can still get a bowl
    of DD> "good old, greasy, Springfield tavern chilli. Both do very well
    selling that stuff.

    Typical greasy spoons? (G)

    Either one would have gone well for supper earlier this week. Between Wednesday and Thursday, we had 3.25" of snow. A lot of it is gone now
    but it shut down the whole area for several days. It was sleet and freezing rain to the south and east of us; we escaped that this time around. But, since we don't have as much snow removal equipment in this part of the state as the western part does, the secondary and back
    roads stay snow covered longer. Therefore, the kids get more snow days, government shuts down and the whole state comes down to a slow crawl.

    Sounds like a comment I first made when driving a semi through
    Arkansas during a winter event. Talking on the CB raDIO (remember
    those?) I told a guy who was crying about how slick it was "In
    Arkansas they think salt is something youm put on yopur French Fries
    not your roads." Bv)=

    This area brines the roads first, then when the stuff (in whatever form)
    starts coming down, they go out with sand and salt. Car washes do a
    booming business after the storms pass.

    4 c Dried pinto beans
    1 Ham hock
    15 oz Can tomato sauce
    1/4 c Chilli spice mix
    1/4 c Brown sugar
    2 tb (to 3 tb) white vinegar
    5 cl Garlic; minced
    1 lg Onion; peeled, diced small

    Recipe courtesy of Ree Drummond

    Looks more like bean soup--and brown sugar????????????


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    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Feb 26 11:47:44 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Cincinatti Chilli is most definitely an aquired taste. And remains

    I wouldn't go out and buy it but I can at least say I've tried it. Same category as durian--have tried, found out it's ok but not something I'd
    go out and buy.

    If I'm in the area I might order it at a food establishment. But
    modtly I like Springfield-style/Dave's Kitchen chilli.

    I usually order something other than chili, especially if I don't know much about the chili. I've had some (at cook offs) that have been
    really nasty.

    Having tried bowls of "chilli" all over te US I know better than to
    order a bowl of red anywhere near the Northeastern US. It's most likely
    gonna be a bland hamburger/tomato soup.

    I think I'll stick with our chili recipies--family style (but without
    the corn) and competition style--just meat, spices, onion, tomato and peppers.

    Well, yeah. Nearly every tavern in town had a chilli on offer. All
    *VERY* heavy on the oil. Served in souffle plates w/chilli, beans
    (from another pot) and sometimes with a pair of tamales (called a "Doubleheader") I was never one for the extra cost of the tamales.

    Not so many places around here. We tried a new in town sushi place yesterday in a building that can't seem to keep a restaurant more than
    6 months. I think this is the 3rd or 4th different iteration since we moved here in 2009. Anyway, the sushi was AYCE only, set price (soup, drinks, etc extra). We ordered 4 different types, one was one piece
    only, with raw fish so Steve had that. He had the clear (beef broth
    with thin sliced mushrooms) soup; I went with the miso soup with tofu
    and a few green leave of undetermined origin. The place is good for a young person, with a decent appetite and mediocre taste in sushi but
    not us. Nancy Backus introduced us to her favorite place, Taste of
    Japan, in West Henrietta, NY. We try to get there any time we're in the area; the owner and his wife are the only cook/chefs and the sushi is
    top notch. Found another sushi place here in town last summer; it was
    ok but not of the quality we've gotten at ToJ. Still, we'd go back to
    that place over the new one, given a choice.

    So, you gonna go back?

    There are a couple places in town where one can still get a bowl
    of "good old, greasy, Springfield tavern chilli. Both do very well
    selling that stuff.

    Typical greasy spoons? (G)

    Actually not. One is the Dublin Pub, a mid-level sit-down restaurant
    using the old Vic's Pizza recipe. The other is a tavern (Brickhouse)
    and sports bar on the city's west side.

    Either one would have gone well for supper earlier this week. Between Wednesday and Thursday, we had 3.25" of snow. A lot of it is gone now
    but it shut down the whole area for several days. It was sleet and freezing rain to the south and east of us; we escaped that this time around. But, since we don't have as much snow removal equipment in this part of the state as the western part does, the secondary and back
    roads stay snow covered longer. Therefore, the kids get more snow days, government shuts down and the whole state comes down to a slow crawl.

    Sounds like a comment I first made when driving a semi through
    Arkansas during a winter event. Talking on the CB raDIO (remember
    those?) I told a guy who was crying about how slick it was "In
    Arkansas they think salt is something youm put on your French Fries
    not your roads." Bv)=

    This area brines the roads first, then when the stuff (in whatever
    form) starts coming down, they go out with sand and salt. Car washes do
    a booming business after the storms pass.

    As they do in this area. I keep a monthly subscription at one between
    home and woek. Hit it often for thew undercar wash to get ride of any
    salt build-up. Not to mentions the salty coating on the bodywork.

    4 c Dried pinto beans
    1 Ham hock
    15 oz Can tomato sauce
    1/4 c Chilli spice mix
    1/4 c Brown sugar
    2 tb (to 3 tb) white vinegar
    5 cl Garlic; minced
    1 lg Onion; peeled, diced small

    Recipe courtesy of Ree Drummond

    Looks more like bean soup--and brown sugar????????????

    Sure. Why not. I'd add cumin and less chilli spice. But, it's an
    OK (really) recipe for beans to add to chilli.

    If I'm not using my chilli beans I'll do Bush's or Brooks Hot
    Chili Beans.

    Here's mine again - just to compare

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dave's Chilli Beans
    Categories: Beans, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 c Dried pinto beans
    1 ts Oil or bacon dripping
    1 md Onion; chopped
    3 cl Garlic; mashed
    8 oz Can tomato puree or paste
    2 ts Ground cumin
    1 tb Chilli spice *
    Salt & pepper
    1 md Bell pepper; cored, diced
    1 Dried red chile; ground
    Water; as needed

    * Mexene, Baron's, Ray's, etc.

    Soak beans overnight, if desired. Then drain and add
    fresh water. Boil the beans hard for 10 to 15 minutes
    to kick start the conversion of the starches. Reduce
    the heat to a nice four bubble simmer and cover the
    pot. Cook until tender but not mushy.

    Saute onion and garlic in oil. Add tomato, chilli
    spice, salt & pepper, parsley and ground red pepper
    with a little water.

    Boil for 10-15 minutes. Add to beans and add the cumin
    at this time, cook for 25 minutes or longer.

    Recipe and MM Format by Dave Drum - 04 July 1996

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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