and the guy that claims to own the rights to majorbbs doesn't own
the rights. ---
Is this story documented anywhere? I love me some good old-timey BBS drama, but don't want to put someone through having to explain it all to me.
--- MRO wrote --- Re: Old DOS BBS Programs By: the doctor to NIGHTFOX on Wed
and the guy that claims to own the rights to majorbbs doesn't own the rights.
Which one? There are two of them.
When I used RemoteAccess, RA had a sysop key to break into chat with the user, and RA would let you configure a custom chat utility to run when you did that, and I had IceChat set up for that, so it would run for break into chat without the page feature. I don't think Synchronet has the ability to configure an external sysop-user chat with a hotkey like that.
Re: Old DOS BBS Programs
By: MRO to the doctor on Wed Jun 15 2022 07:36 am
and the guy that claims to own the rights to majorbbs doesn't own the rights. ---
Is this story documented anywhere? I love me some good old-timey BBS drama, but don't want to put someone through having to explain it all to me.
DaiTengu
When the dust settled from the lawsuits, I don't think he had to pay anybody anything and basically owned the Commodore name and some of the tradmarks, mostly because nobody used them in a long time and he called dibs.
So yea, appearantly you can just claim to own something until someone sues you, lol.
When the dust settled from the lawsuits, I don't think he had to pay
anybody anything and basically owned the Commodore name and some of
the tradmarks, mostly because nobody used them in a long time and he
called dibs.
So yea, appearantly you can just claim to own something until someone
sues
you, lol.
he also died, right?
He (Barry Altman) did die after all this, yes, back in 2012 and it fell apart right afterwords. I had a C64x case and it was really nice, I am curious what they would have come up with. Aside from the C64x their other stuff was mostly over-priced OEM computers they stuck a Commodore or Amiga logo on (well that and a Commodore themed Linux distro).
I don't know - but it reminds me of the guy who ran Commodore USA a few years ago (he passed away a couple of years ago)....
He couldn't figure out who owned the IP/Copyrights to Commodore, so he just started selling Commodore branded stuff until somebody sued him
(and they did).
So yea, appearantly you can just claim to own something until someone
sues you, lol.
I don't know - but it reminds me of the guy who ran Commodore USA a
few years ago (he passed away a couple of years ago).
He couldn't figure out who owned the IP/Copyrights to Commodore, so...
he just started selling Commodore branded stuff until somebody sued
him (and they did).
So yea, appearantly you can just claim to own something until
someone sues you, lol.
I liked the old copyright requirement where you had to re-register your copyright every 20 years or so. If a property wasn't valuable to the original author, it reverted to the public domain. Neatly solves the problem of Abandonware.
Re: Old DOS BBS Programs
By: Xerxes to MRO on Thu Jun 16 2022 10:04 am
He (Barry Altman) did die after all this, yes, back in 2012 and it fell apart right afterwords. I had a C64x case and it was really nice, I am curious what they would have come up with. Aside from the C64x their oth stuff was mostly over-priced OEM computers they stuck a Commodore or Amig logo on (well that and a Commodore themed Linux distro).
i know another sysop who got just the case.
i still have the commodoreOS isos. it's not worth using.
The Millionaire wrote to All <=-
Doorway was another favourite of mine as well. Desqview and QEMM
were pretty awesome too. :-)
The Millionaire wrote to All <=-
Qedit was another one that I used a lot too. :-)
Qedit was another one that I used a lot too. :-)
Qedit is/was not a "DOS BBS Program", which is what you asked about. Qedit is a DOS text editor. Your response/answer is disqualified and thrown out.
The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-
It sounds like you run Dovenet too. :-P
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
Qedit was another one that I used a lot too. :-)
Qedit is/was not a "DOS BBS Program", which is what you asked about.
Qedit is a DOS text editor. Your response/answer is disqualified and thrown out.
Maybe he meant QuikEdit, which was a BBS full-screen message
editor: https://bit.ly/3OsaxR7
Well, hard to say when we're talking about TM. I would think if
somebody meant "QuikEdit", they'd say "QuikEdit".
I was talking about qedit by semware. It was a great text editor for dos that I used with editing BBS text files.
The Millionaire wrote to All <=-
I was talking about qedit by semware. It was a great text editor
for dos that I used with editing BBS text files.
The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-
It sounds like you run Dovenet too. :-P
I don't know what you're talking about, since you don't know how to
quote context when replying.
I loved RAHIST. A history addon. Did you ever use that one?
RABIR was a birthday addon. Very colorful.
The Millionaire wrote to All <=-
TM> I was talking about qedit by semware. It was a great text editor
TM> for dos that I used with editing BBS text files.
Yes, I know that. I was correcting your mistake though: Qedit was
*NOT* a "DOS BBS program" as called out in your subject line. It was/is
a (multi-purpose) DOS text editor.
... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.
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If the author can't be found or contacted though, it would be
difficult to register the software..
correct. But if the author suddenly appeared after 30 years of not
being able to be reached, they could demand payment and would likely
win litigation over it.
If I was to advocate for anything, it'd be a much shorter duration for
the expiration of software copyrights than the current "author's life
+ 70 years"
Best use a VPS in Amsterdam, where US copyright doesn't apply and make
sure your real identity is shielded from anything related or pointing to said server.
On 6/15/22 06:14, DaiTengu wrote:
If I was to advocate for anything, it'd be a much shorter duration for the expiration of software copyrights than the current "author's life
+ 70 years"
Don't remember where I first read it, but someone had the idea of
allowing copyright to never expire... Basically, you get the first 15
years free (original term, but no cost, by default like now)... but to
get any more, you pay $xx at 15 years, and it doubles every N years.
So if it's worth you to keep paying a doubling amount (potentially
millions a year), then it's probably okay to keep it under copyright.
So, say Free 0-15
Then $10k after 15 years...
Then double every 5 years.
After 65 years, registration would be ~$10m... a few more decades and it becomes cost prohibitive.
So if it's worth you to keep paying a doubling amount (potentially
millions a year), then it's probably okay to keep it under copyright.
So, say Free 0-15
Then $10k after 15 years...
Then double every 5 years.
After 65 years, registration would be ~$10m... a few more decades and
it becomes cost prohibitive.
i'm sure this would give disney a huge erection.
introduced in subsequent books over the next few year would require its own copyright. Not to mention characters that were co-created, do the co-creators split the fees?
It sounds like a nightmare.
Did anyone ever use Fmail? It was Fast Echomail Processor.
Did anyone ever use Fmail? It was Fast Echomail Processor.
Tracker1 wrote to DaiTengu <=-
Don't remember where I first read it, but someone had the idea of
allowing copyright to never expire... Basically, you get the first 15 years free (original term, but no cost, by default like now)... but to
get any more, you pay $xx at 15 years, and it doubles every N years.
That damn mouse ended up screwing up copyright law. Disney kept wanting
to extend copyright on Mickey Mouse and lobbied for changes.
Instead the Rat has twisted copyright into a pardoy of it's original intent. Instead of encouraging creative authorship, it's become a way for corporations to rob the public domain for generations.
-Grimpen
So, say Free 0-15
Then $10k after 15 years...
Then double every 5 years.
After 65 years, registration would be ~$10m... a few more decades and it
becomes cost prohibitive.
i'm sure this would give disney a huge erection.
Re: Re: Old DOS BBS Programs
By: DaiTengu to MRO on Wed Jun 22 2022 09:37 am
> introduced in subsequent books over the next few year would require its own
> copyright. Not to mention characters that were co-created, do the
> co-creators split the fees?
>
>
> It sounds like a nightmare.
it sounds like it would stifle creativity.
why create things if there are such penalties?
and what would they do with all the money from the copywrites?
can i be the guy that keeps the money?
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