China's population may be much smaller
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Joseph Pereira@1:124/5016 to
All on Mon Dec 1 07:05:25 2025
Remarkable calculations have been made to determine how many Chinese actually live in China.
The results are striking.
According to official counts, China had a population of 1.4 billion before the outbreak of Covid.
However, that number was already seriously doubted back then. The reason is very simple. The regions receive funding from the central government based on their population. Therefore, it makes economic sense to exaggerate the population.
But after Covid, the databases were closed to outsiders. If they were ever public at all, that is.
So, other methods had to be used.
Some people got very creative with that. For example, the use of table salt. We know the average consumption of the Chinese from 2010 to 2019.
We also know how much salt was consumed back then. Table salt is not a critical raw material, so the Chinese government has no qualms about publishing the figures. (Although that may change after this). Increasing prosperity results in the population eating more salt.
You would therefore expect an increase in salt consumption with a growing population and increasing prosperity. The truth is that the amount of salt consumed in China has decreased enormously. And by that, it has decreased HUGELY. This is despite increasing prosperity, which leads to increased salt consumption worldwide and previously also did so in China.
A 25% decrease in salt consumption occurred in Japan… So, based on a starting figure of 1.4 billion, this means the population has decreased by 300 million people… But salt consumption alone would indicate that China has 800 million inhabitants.
Grain consumption has also decreased so much (Russian figures) that the Russians think China has ‘only’ 800 million inhabitants.
But how is it possible that China has lost so many people?
A Chinese hacker discovered that the official population in 2019 should have been 980 million… If that's true, then the official figure of 1.4 billion wasn't even 1 billion. But do those figures take into account Hong Kong, Macau, and Chinese living abroad? Another question… If the government has a database with the real figures, why do they allow regions to report nonsense?
The Covid pandemic led to an extremely strict lockdown in China. When it was lifted, no one resisted what was still circulating. The new Covid variants had little impact on the rest of the world. But in China, after the first long lockdown, crematories reported a supply of corpses that was 8 to 10 times higher than normal. This situation lasted at least three months, and it occurred several times with subsequent Covid variants. In a three-month period after the lockdown, they calculated that there had been 25 million additional deaths.
Another calculation comes from an American professor who looked at mitigation. More people means more lighting and therefore more light visible from space. This applies worldwide, except in China, where the amount of lighting visible from space decreased significantly after 2019.
It is estimated that China lost at least 100 million inhabitants between 2020 and 2025, possibly more. But was that 100 million out of 1.4 billion, or was it the more logical 100 million out of 980 million Chinese?
Given alternative calculations, a figure of 900 million Chinese seems more fair than the currently official figure of 1.3 to 1.4 billion.
Some calculators even estimate a population closer to 500 million Chinese than 900 million. After all, the enormous increase in prosperity must also be taken into account. People eat and consume much more than before, so if consumption figures are declining so dramatically, the population must be much smaller than officially announced.
If the population is so much smaller, then the economic figures from China are also inaccurate.
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